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[Q] Can I root and unlock the bootloader on 98.16.1 ?

Can I root and unlock the bootloader on 98.16.1 ?
Thanks, and sorry if this qualifies as a "use the search function" question - for the record I tried that route.

Okay, 96 views and no responses, so it must be a stupid question... I just don't know if that's a yes or no, and I've been Googling, but no one talks in terms of Moto firmware when talking about the bootloader...

Looks like that's the older firmware, so you should be able to. Try rooting it first. If that works, you ought to be able to unlock the boot loader as well.
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Thanks, I eventually came to that conclusion as well, since the update everyone says to avoid is a higher number than what I'm getting.
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Escape from 182.46.15 / 183.46.15 ?

Is not there a possibility to totally wipe/blank the phone (bootloader, kernel) and back to epoch, then start from scratch?
Think about these are as:
- radiocomm
- qflash
- or something else ...
even if it is very difficult?

I guess the updated, locked bootloader won't even allow you to do any of that, just like how it rejects flashing custom system/recovery images.
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Was thinking to "force bricking" and then somehow unbricking... in any way destroy or replace the current bootloader in order to not be able to prevent the intervention. What do you think about the "blank bootloader", what are the possibilities it gives?

Replace BL -> supposedly not allowed by current BL
Destroy/clear BL -> unable to boot up & lose access to fastboot flash mode -> no way to flash in anything
...at least these are what I think.
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The boot loader is locked this means we do not have access to this. We cannot downgrade the boot loader period if you are on .15 and not previously unlocked
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Well, that sounds pretty bad. Although this was a very good device, I have to look for other, probably Nexus, which is open ... It was not a good move from Motorola.

I agree it was a bad move but it seems to be the nations standard these days
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What do you think about the bugreport? Already occurred twice since the KK update (never occurred in JB).
~7MB txt file, the the beginning of the file looks like this:
bugreport-2014-10-13-10-15-59.txt:
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== dumpstate: 2014-10-13 10:15:59
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Build: KDA20.62-15
Build fingerprint: 'motorola/XT907_verizon/scorpion_mini:4.4.2/KDA20.62-15/15:user/release-keys'
Bootloader: 0x109B
Radio: msm
Network: Telekom XX
Kernel: Linux version 3.4.42-g46d4525-00001-ga9305fd ([email protected]) (gcc version 4.7 (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jul 29 02:16:18 PDT 2014
Command line: console=null androidboot.hardware=qcom user_debug=31 msm_rtb.filter=0x3F ehci-hcd.park=3 maxcpus=2 vmalloc=400M androidboot.emmc=true androidboot.serialno=TA59707LSY androidboot.baseband=msm androidboot.mode=normal androidboot.bootloader=0x109B androidboot.cid=0x2 androidboot.hwrev=0x82A0 battery= mot_sst=1 androidboot.carrier=vzw product=smq androidboot.device=smq androidboot.secure_hardware=1
------ UPTIME (uptime) ------
up time: 5 days, 14:59:52, idle time: 1 days, 03:29:45, sleep time: 4 days, 09:13:57
[uptime: 0.1s elapsed]
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RAZR M towelroot not working
i update razr m from 4.1.2 to stock kk by rsd lite now i want to do cutom rom towelroot giving error this phone isnt supported b\c as geohot says it works on build date prior to 3 june 2014 but my build date is 29 july 2014 with system version 183.46.15.xt907 .verison..... i also try to downgrade to jellybean by rsd lite but my bootloader is locked plz tell me is their any way to unlock the bootloader by any method that i can instal custom recovery. or i need to wait untill geohot release new app to support further builds after 3 june....

abifahad said:
i update razr m from 4.1.2 to stock kk by rsd lite now i want to do cutom rom towelroot giving error this phone isnt supported b\c as geohot says it works on build date prior to 3 june 2014 but my build date is 29 july 2014 with system version 183.46.15.xt907 .verison..... i also try to downgrade to jellybean by rsd lite but my bootloader is locked plz tell me is their any way to unlock the bootloader by any method that i can instal custom recovery. or i need to wait untill geohot release new app to support further builds after 3 june....
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You're stuck, you can't root .15, you can't unlock it, and you can't downgrade if you're locked. This has been discussed a billion times.
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sympatex said:
Well, that sounds pretty bad. Although this was a very good device, I have to look for other, probably Nexus, which is open ... It was not a good move from Motorola.
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mrkhigh said:
I agree it was a bad move but it seems to be the nations standard these days
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its more verizon wanting the locked bootloader then motorola

After about a month of use after the experience 183.46.15 verizon update:
- constant cracking sound from the speaker in any event
- 3 random shutdown (while running with endomondo, the result is of course lost)
- 2 random reboots
- continuous battery drain
The latter is probably due to the fastdormant apk, but since there is no root, nothing can be done.
In summary, due to the new update the device completely unusable. Previously, in JB, none of the above error occurred (after >600 miles running with same device)
We can say that Verizon only create the update to prevent the root, and nothing else test the software.
I wonder why it was so urgent to send the .15 OTA? Maybe in order to "destroy" the devices as soon as possible people having to buy another one?

.15 sucks big time
sympatex said:
After about a month of use after the experience 183.46.15 verizon update:
- constant cracking sound from the speaker in any event
- 3 random shutdown (while running with endomondo, the result is of course lost)
- 2 random reboots
- continuous battery drain
The latter is probably due to the fastdormant apk, but since there is no root, nothing can be done.
In summary, due to the new update the device completely unusable. Previously, in JB, none of the above error occurred (after >600 miles running with same device)
We can say that Verizon only create the update to prevent the root, and nothing else test the software.
I wonder why it was so urgent to send the .15 OTA? Maybe in order to "destroy" the devices as soon as possible people having to buy another one?
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Really bad decision by me not to unlock bootloader. Paying the price now with the update.
For me,
- Phone display or power button stops responding at least 2-3 times a day. This is followed by an automatic reboot
- Battery drains really quickly - clearly because of the Modem FastDormancy Monitor
Things I have tried so far:
- Factory Reset
- Modify the NVM to accommodate GSM
- Kept phone in GSM only mode
- Disabled Modem FastDormancy App
- Kept phone in safe mode
Nothing works. Same behaviour.
Will try to flash 183.46.15 over my 182.46.15 with a complete data wipe. Not many hopes left. :crying:

Changi said:
Really bad decision by me not to unlock bootloader. Paying the price now with the update.
For me,
- Phone display or power button stops responding at least 2-3 times a day. This is followed by an automatic reboot
- Battery drains really quickly - clearly because of the Modem FastDormancy Monitor
Things I have tried so far:
- Factory Reset
- Modify the NVM to accommodate GSM
- Kept phone in GSM only mode
- Disabled Modem FastDormancy App
- Kept phone in safe mode
Nothing works. Same behaviour.
Will try to flash 183.46.15 over my 182.46.15 with a complete data wipe. Not many hopes left. :crying:
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Me too. I am not stuck I can go back to JB..but can't for few weeks as laptop is not currently here...
So following things are helping me right now to keep my bettry a little (it won't last more then 5-7hrs) but these things helped some
=Iam keeping my phone on safemode
=I am keeping brightness at lowest
=I am using du bettary saver
=most best I am using greenify
Better way to use greenify:
use greenify every time before pressing screen lock button...it closes all apps..allow greenify to auto kill apps (no root need) create a shortcut.. And just bang this shortcut one it will force close each application running automatically... It worked for me a lot saved something like 6hrs on standby and a lot time while using.thanks

RikRong said:
You're stuck, you can't root .15, you can't unlock it, and you can't downgrade if you're locked. This has been discussed a billion times.
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people talk like this too much its like you have seen it so you think we must have seen it

doshjaniels said:
people talk like this too much its like you have seen it so you think we must have seen it
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I'm not going to argue about it, but it's been discussed in every thread about .15 and there have been many threads about .15.
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RikRong said:
I'm not going to argue about it, but it's been discussed in every thread about .15 and there have been many threads about .15.
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I think u r same who ruined my post in which I was explaining those .15 can't do anything -_-

livecouk said:
I think u r same who ruined my post in which I was explaining those .15 can't do anything -_-
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I'm actually the one that let you know you can downgrade since you're unlocked. [emoji6]
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rikrong said:
i'm actually the one that let you know you can downgrade since you're unlocked. [emoji6]
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livecouk said:
Hmm means you are other guy sorry. That guy who ruined by post I hate hm
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It's me then? Just trying to give some advice, nothing wrong with that, eh?
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[Q] My Razr M is not rootable, is there a way to downgrade to a lower version?

Ok so my whole problem is that im on system version 183.46.15.XT907 when its supposed to be 183.46.10.XT907. My question is that is there a way to get to 183.46.10.XT907. again? I've been at this for hours and i'm in desperate need for help.
If you would like to see a picture of exactly please PM it will not let me place a picture as i am a new user

rockketman123 said:
Ok so my whole problem is that im on system version 183.46.15.XT907 when its supposed to be 183.46.10.XT907. My question is that is there a way to get to 183.46.10.XT907. again? I've been at this for hours and i'm in desperate need for help.
If you would like to see a picture of exactly please PM it will not let me place a picture as i am a new user
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As of now there is no way of rooting or downgrading with a locked bootloader.
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That's a bummer, but for root part, maybe or maybe not. I don't think it's possible as Motorola took out some vital codes from Kit Kat ROM which allows root.

ATTACK said:
As of now there is no way of rooting or downgrading with a locked bootloader.
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I was able to flash it down to .10 but my kernel was after June 3rd, something like July 27th or whatever and yeah this doesnt allow it to work. Oh well, I'm switching to an S3 In less than a month.
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rockketman123 said:
ATTACK said:
As of now there is no way of rooting or downgrading with a locked bootloader.
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I was able to flash it down to .10 but my kernel was after June 3rd, something like July 27th or whatever and yeah this doesnt allow it to work. Oh well, I'm switching to an S3 In less than a month.
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Unlocked or locked? Kernel date and screenshot as proof please, including the AP Fastboot screen.
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I suspect it's already unlocked as it's impossible to downgrade the kernel on a locked RAZR M (OEM signatures, you know).

AndyYan said:
rockketman123 said:
Unlocked or locked? Kernel date and screenshot as proof please, including the AP Fastboot screen.
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as I'm a new user I cant post a screen shot but the imgur link is i(.)imgur(.)com/xiZuIyq(.)jpg and i(.)imgur(.)com/cA6W6Oi(.)jpg
I went from 4.1.2 Rooted and was never able to unlock the bootloader then flashed to 4.4.2 on the .15 then flashed to .10
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You're outta luck. You ahould have flashed .10 first and unlocked the bootloader before you hop between the ROM version... .15 version permanently lock the bootloader.
EDIT: I looked at the pictures, however, I am suspicious of the claim. The reason being, the bootloader will check the kernel version, and if it's not agreed with the bootloader security key file (tz.mbn), the bootloader will refuse to touch it. If anyone else with the locked phone tries this harebrained experiment and come out without a softbrick, I may have to eat my sock.

Dr. Mario said:
You're outta luck. You ahould have flashed .10 first and unlocked the bootloader before you hop between the ROM version... .15 version permanently lock the bootloader.
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yeah when i flashed over i "accidentally" did the wrong version (tut linked me to a wrong version I suppose) and now im piss out of luck, but like i said im not worrying about it since s3 within a few weeks or so. Hopefully one day it's able to Root though B)
EDIT: what exactly are you suspicious of? The claim that I went from 4.1.2 flashed to 4.4.2 but on .15 then down to .10?

If the eventual RAZR M update gets screwed up like the first one, it may get unlocked but I have grave doubt because Verizon have learned their lesson on this one: root = bootloader unlock, at least in the case of early Kit Kat update.

fellas i have received two moto M today and seems like this cant either root because this stupid 9mb of .15 update, since the kernal is after jun 3
towelroot
well any new exploit around the coner to try?

No root exploits right now, unfortunately. It's getting harder and harder to exploit the Kit Kat.

how to root and unlock 183.46.15

Is there any way to root my phone.
The system version is 183.46.15.

If your boot loader is locked, no.
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Nope. Sorry. Both bootloader and root are patched.

RikRong said:
If your boot loader is locked, no.
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Is there any guru working on the root? thinking about selling the phone if no hope

everseen said:
Is there any guru working on the root? thinking about selling the phone if no hope
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Not gonna come as far as I can see from now. Just go ahead and sell it. Plenty of alternatives on the market.
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There are some RAZR M that are unlocked on Swappa as well.

tianor said:
Is there any way to root my phone.
The system version is 183.46.15.
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Did u get unlocked, i am also stricken with it

Love Cyaan said:
Did u get unlocked, i am also stricken with it
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No luck yet.

root and unlock 183.46.15
everseen said:
No luck yet.
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Me too, me too!
Googleing this search daily " unlock 183.46.15 site:forum[.]xda-developers[.]com"
Checked ever corner of XDA, alas no solution on how to root and unlock 183.46.15
Devs @ XDA, come on champs gave us something, so can we also enjoy the privilege of CM12. Many are waiting for it fingers crossed
Mods/all, its only a humble request to Dev & not that if being annoyed.

Qualcomm patched the second layer (sbl2) of the second-stage bootloader, to take care of possible exploitation, effectively making it impenetrable. So for some individuals, we're pretty much out of luck. I wouldn't be sure of the possible exploits (the problem is, after that patch, it makes it even harder, although not impossible). Previous Kit Kat rooting exploitation relies on the permission requestion layer (futex) of the Linux kernel, as discovered by the former PS3 hacker, GeoHot, while it's patched by now. It's possible there is already a new rooting exploit by now, just don't hold the breath.

It's possible there is already a new rooting exploit by now, just don't hold the breath.
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Can you please be more concretely?

I may not be up to date, been out of town for a bit, and figuring out a way to unbrick a few RAZR Ms.
However, the reason I said not to hold the breath is because of Verizon demanding a hard fix for rooting so that way almost any root exploits simply fail on arrival. This phone company also WANTS locked BIOS so no one can install custom recovery and OS "just because it put customer services in jeopardy".

That's really bad, can't believe that there is no chance to root or bootunlock this device.
By the way, do you know any way to disable/delete/freeze modem fast dormancy service without rooting phone? Or to made some changes in build.prop file?

Simply force close Modem fastdormancy first then disable it in app manager, it will then quit. And, editing build.prop requires root (write protection).

Force close works but disable button is inactive.
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Ah, right.... I wonder why Verizon would disable some app manager features.

I'm outside of us, my carrier operates in gsm network and does not support fast dormancy, therefore phone reboots and can't wake up on power button when using h+. Thats why I need to edit build.prop and to dothis I need root access to file system.
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Makes sense. However, I may look for new exploit, but since Futex is removed, it is not so simple.

Dr. Mario, are you developer?
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Not officially, yet. But I know how the software works underneath the pretty UI, even down to the machine codes. I have been modding Android for 3 years.

news from motorola website about lolipop update

just find some information about a lolipop upgrade for motorola droid ultra/mini/maxx from motorola upgrades pages :crying: :crying:

mt021322 said:
just find some information about a lolipop upgrade for motorola droid ultra/mini/maxx from motorola upgrades pages :crying: :crying:
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/110262
The link for more details is dead however...

BackCheck said:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/110262
The link for more details is dead however...
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thanks,..i forgot for a link :good:
this attachment is what i've got from motorola forums about a dead links
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/19343d1335?page=24

Sad news, they should offer owners the option to unlock their bootloader so they can upgrade to Lollipop themselves.
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sign a petition, give us the BL UNLOCK CODE, we don't need a cashback

un1ocked said:
sign a petition, give us the BL UNLOCK CODE, we don't need a cashback
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Yay,give me a link petition,.i will sign it,i' ll support it..
I found a link
https://www.change.org/p/verizon-dr...source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink
Let' s go

I signed it I'm number 97 of 100 but don't think it will do any good because the petitions don't seen to ever work out will for any of us.

leerpsp said:
I signed it I'm number 97 of 100 but don't think it will do any good because the petitions don't seen to ever work out will for any of us.
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At least we' re doing something,no matter what' s a result.

Verizon isn't going to let Motorola bl unlock these phones until they stop selling them like the X
But there is a new unlock exploit coming very soon that *will* work on the 8960/pro, so most of us will at least get 5.1 via cyanogenmod, it should breathe new life into these devices for at least the rest of 2016, maybe longer.
Maybe there is a chance to even get 6 via cyanogenmod eventually if the drivers can be ported from 5.1 ? Or is that an unrealistic expectation?

Let's hope this new 8960/ pro exploit is real for the sake of those who have not had the pleasure of running LP and MM on their machines. My MAXX and OG Moto X have been on LP for over a year now and it ran much better than KK other than the cell standby bug. I just flashed CM13 on this phone and it is even better. Testing out doze now, seems to be pretty good on the battery. This is a great phone, if it is bootloader unlocked!
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_ck_ said:
.... selling them like the X But there is a new unlock exploit coming very soon that *will* work on the 8960/pro, so most....
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blasphemy !! rofl

teerout said:
blasphemy !! rofl
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sorry that went over my head? blasphemy? why?

@beaups
What has a higher probability of happening?
WP = 0 or
Bootloader Unlock

JH1108 said:
@beaups
What has a higher probability of happening?
WP = 0 or
Bootloader Unlock
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Same.
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beaups said:
Same.
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What version Android are these devices running. Are you able to get (temp) root?
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beaups said:
What version Android are these devices running. Are you able to get (temp) root?
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root exists on the (verizon) mini/maxx/ultra (same phone internals) because of work done by crashxxl to bypass the bootloader and write over the rom via qload driver mode - basically he writes the changes needed for root and SU
I believe he figured it out by studying the developer edition of the device which is bl unlocked
it works quite well, we have root and xposed but wp=1 of course
laginimaineb's next announcement will open the device for everyone but I don't think he is releasing a proof of concept, at least not for this phone model, so if you are willing, we could probably really use your help when that happens
I'd be happy to send you a mini (to keep) if that will help motivate you

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root exists on the (verizon) mini/maxx/ultra (same phone internals) because of work done by crashxxl to bypass the bootloader and write over the rom via qload driver mode - basically he writes the changes needed for root and SU
I believe he figured it out by studying the developer edition of the device which is bl unlocked
it works quite well, we have root and xposed but wp=1 of course
laginimaineb's next announcement will open the device for everyone but I don't think he is releasing a proof of concept, at least not for this phone model, so if you are willing, we could probably really use your help when that happens
I'd be happy to send you a mini (to keep) if that will help motivate you
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What version Android are most people running?
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beaups said:
What version Android are most people running?
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it's kitkat 4.4.4 - the only option right now unless you have a developer model or paid for sunshine so you can use cyanogenmod, etc.
SU6-7 rom was built December 2014 (sunshine cannot unlock this one)
SU4.21 rom was built June 2014 - sunshine CAN unlock this version but if anyone has accepted the OTA, it's too late because now the phone is SU6-7.3 and fuse blown
I can send you either SU4 or SU6 to play with

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it's kitkat 4.4.4 - the only option right now unless you have a developer model or paid for sunshine so you can use cyanogenmod, etc.
SU6-7 rom was built December 2014 (sunshine cannot unlock this one)
SU4.21 rom was built June 2014 - sunshine CAN unlock this version but if anyone has accepted the OTA, it's too late because now the phone is SU6-7.3
I can send you either SU4 or SU6 to play with
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So sunshine is available for these models and people skipped it? Or on too new of firmware to use it?
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beaups said:
So sunshine is available for these models and people skipped it? Or on too new of firmware to use it?
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SU4 hasn't been available for a year now, maybe longer and you cannot downgrade these phones
verizon now ships all of them with SU6, so no sunshine, and verizon refuses to let motorola unlock the bootloader like they did with the X