Can I root and unlock the bootloader on 98.16.1 ?
Thanks, and sorry if this qualifies as a "use the search function" question - for the record I tried that route.
Okay, 96 views and no responses, so it must be a stupid question... I just don't know if that's a yes or no, and I've been Googling, but no one talks in terms of Moto firmware when talking about the bootloader...
Looks like that's the older firmware, so you should be able to. Try rooting it first. If that works, you ought to be able to unlock the boot loader as well.
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Thanks, I eventually came to that conclusion as well, since the update everyone says to avoid is a higher number than what I'm getting.
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Hello all,
Just a quick rooting question. Is there any reason to unlock the bootloader when rooting? According to some stickies, we can root without unlocking and I was able to root my friend's Captivate without unlocking anything. I am assuming we're unlocking the bootloader since it makes the rooting process easier as a hack isn't required? Thanks!
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It allows you to flash a custom recovery image to go ahead and flash a custom rom and radio
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Hi Dave,
Thanks for the info, but why didn't I need to unlock my friend's Captivate? We were able to get Clockworkmod Recovery on it without unlocking anything. Thanks!
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BlindWolf8 said:
Hi Dave,
Thanks for the info, but why didn't I need to unlock my friend's Captivate? We were able to get Clockworkmod Recovery on it without unlocking anything. Thanks!
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http://www.androidcentral.com/bootloaders-all-you-ever-wanted-know
The TL;DR of that article is that,
Every phone has a bootloader. The Nexus series (and now Sony Ericcson after filing out a form on their website) has a unlockable bootloader without the usage of any exploits. Phones such as the Galaxy S series (Vibrant, Captivate, Epic 4G, etc) -- mainly Samsung phones have weak bootloader protection.
HOWEVER, all of the other phones' bootloaders are unlocked due to a exploit. So yes, your friend did unlock the bootloader without actually knowing it.
The only phones that are unable to unlock the bootloader are Motorola phones because of the bootloader being signed.
But if you really want to know about bootloaders, read that article.
@dave: there is no such thing as a custom radio. The radio itself is not open sourced. But it allows you to flash a older version of the radio since results of radios vary between user. Some people may experience better connection with KB3 than KD1 and etc.
Thanks! It was as I thought.
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BlindWolf8 said:
I am assuming we're unlocking the bootloader since it makes the rooting process easier as a hack isn't required?
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Correct. Most other phones require an exploit to root, the Nexus S does not - if you unlock the bootloader. Conversely, you might still be able to root the Nexus using an exploit, even if you want to keep the bootloader locked.
fallenguru said:
Correct. Most other phones require an exploit to root, the Nexus S does not - if you unlock the bootloader. Conversely, you might still be able to root the Nexus using an exploit, even if you want to keep the bootloader locked.
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....? You just paraphrased what i said.
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I have a related question. I relocked my bootloader after rooting. What exactly can I not do with it locked?
Maximilian Mary said:
I have a related question. I relocked my bootloader after rooting. What exactly can I not do with it locked?
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It's kind of a PITA to flash an updated Clockworkmod Recovery. That's all I've found out.
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It's kind of a PITA to flash an updated Clockworkmod Recovery. That's all I've found out.
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^ but to be honest, not to many things get changed within the recovery. Sure the modified Clockwork recovery gets updated. But the original clockwork from ROM Manager doesn't.. it'll work, but I don't see a reason on keeping the bootloader locked. No security is ever compromised.
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....? You just paraphrased what i said.
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Funny, I actually paraphrased the OP. He was on the right track anyway, just needed some confirmation, not a whole paper Also there's a lot of stuff in there I don't really agree with all that much.
Maximilian Mary said:
I relocked my bootloader after rooting. What exactly can I not do with it locked?
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Flash (and probably boot) stuff via fastboot.
Has any dev checked if DX boatloader is unlockable with the GB update through fastboot? I come from the Atrix forums...and it appears 2.3.3 ota update for the Atrix will unlock the boatloader through fastboot. I just wanted to give a heads up to my fellow Moto peeps
http://briefmobile.com/exclusive-atrix-4g-bootloader-unlocked-with-android-2-3-update
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How does one even install fastboot? From my knowledge I thought only dev phones could use it. Maybe im wrong....
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The bootloader wasn't updated with our ota. :-\ Should still be locked down.
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The bootloader wasn't updated with our ota. :-\ Should still be locked down.
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actually since it's the same then it should not have any revisions to prevent it from using the atrix unlock method...or at least that's my hypothesis on it...i literally just asked a question like this 2 seconds ago on rootzwiki
MrcrispyChris said:
actually since it's the same then it should not have any revisions to prevent it from using the atrix unlock method...or at least that's my hypothesis on it...i literally just asked a question like this 2 seconds ago on rootzwiki
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I believe the same thing, I believe that Verizon/motorola did put out a note about the Gingerbread update stating that the same rooting methods would not work BECAUSE the were updating to a new bootloader. If this is true, then I'm 99.9% sure they update to the bootloader they are using for the atix.
Hopefully only a matter of time before this boot unlocker OR the offical one comes out for Droid X. Lets just hope that they dont only do the unlokcing of the bootloader for the Droid X2
Has anyone unlocked the bootloader on their Razr M retail version yet? It's been mentioned on some other forums that you can get the unlock code from Motorola website. This should then allow a recovery to be installed onto the phone.
So has anyone attempted it yet?
Not going to happen on retail non developer edition. /thread.
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No, he's an Aussie , our RAzr Ms are unlockable.
My Australian Telstra branded Razr M spat out an unlock code via the motorola unlock website just like the dev edition phones do. It says right on that website if your phone is ineligible you will receive an error. And I got the code, not the error.
Ausdroid also says explicitly they have confirmation Aussie Razr M is unlockable via moto website.
PJcons, I notice the same discussion on whirlpool, seriously if you don't believe this answer then go and try it yourself, no point asking repeatedly esp as you are confusing people here who have the US CDMA verizon version not the aussie GSM/LTE1800 Telstra version. Also, there is already an existing thread (me lol) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964862
However re: actually unlocking, I can't confirm the last step i.e. actually doing it. The only reason I haven't actually gone ahead is because there is actually no point at this stage as we don't have access to any remotely mature custom ROMs, and the only CWM floating around is not confirmed working on our variant (though as long as it doesn't touch the radio, theoretically it should). But I'm reluctant to do anything without having a stock Telstra fastboot image as a last resort roll-back option, years and years of flashing droids has taught me that if nothing else. Theoretically though I do not see how it could possibly fail if you have the token.
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No, he's an Aussie , our RAzr Ms are unlockable.
My Australian Telstra branded Razr M spat out an unlock code via the motorola unlock website just like the dev edition phones do. It says right on that website if your phone is ineligible you will receive an error. And I got the code, not the error.
Ausdroid also says explicitly they have confirmation Aussie Razr M is unlockable via moto website.
PJcons, I notice the same discussion on whirlpool, seriously if you don't believe this answer then go and try it yourself, no point asking repeatedly esp as you are confusing people here who have the US CDMA verizon version not the aussie GSM/LTE1800 Telstra version
The only reason I haven't actuall gone ahead and unlocked is becuase there is actually no point at this stage as we don't have access to any remotely mature custom ROMs, and the only CWM floating around is not confirmed working on our variant (though as long as it doesn't touch the radio, theoretically it should).
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Ahh crap my bad. Just having flashbacks of the old razr days of people asking if the BL will get or can get unlocked. Carry on. :good:
Aussie retail Razr M unlocked. Confirmed.
Now does any one know what makes the AU different from the US to allow Unlock ?
Germanese said:
Now does any one know what makes the AU different from the US to allow Unlock ?
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I think they're all dev editions
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Germanese said:
Now does any one know what makes the AU different from the US to allow Unlock ?
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AU isn't on Verizon...
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FacePalm.
Yes we know AU is on Telstra ...
But what are the changes that causes the lock down.
Is it a Physical chip that has been changed or is it a 128Bit encryption that stops ppl from Unlocking the Verizon version ?
Pretty sure it's encryption... I remember seeing an article on how it was done, but no idea where...
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I think I read somewhere that Motorola uses 256bit encryption, but I could have dreamed that for all I know.
Either way, it's going to be tough to crack.
question on bootloader
I restored my firmware using Matt's Utility 1.20 back to 4.1.2 ( previously rooted, bl unlocked, running a rom) , however I cant unlock the bootloader anymore (the M logo shows up even after reboot) even after using the Motopocolypse from drjbliss. Is there anyway to fix this?
pwucky23 said:
I restored my firmware using Matt's Utility 1.20 back to 4.1.2 ( previously rooted, bl unlocked, running a rom) , however I cant unlock the bootloader anymore (the M logo shows up even after reboot) even after using the Motopocolypse from drjbliss. Is there anyway to fix this?
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You're still unlocked. Try going into bootloader mode - you should still be status 3 unlocked
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sloosecannon said:
You're still unlocked. Try going into bootloader mode - you should still be status 3 unlocked
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It says that, but I cant flash any roms from CWM? I used root checker and it says I have root, but the SU doesnt seem to be working?
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It says that, but I cant flash any roms from CWM? I used root checker and it says I have root, but the SU doesnt seem to be working?
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Cwm probably got uninstalled when you flashed stock. Just reflash it and it should work
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sloosecannon said:
Cwm probably got uninstalled when you flashed stock. Just reflash it and it should work
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I reflashed CWM but it didnt do anything? When I install a rom it says that it installed fine but when i boot it up, it just boots with the moto logo and boots into stock
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No, he's an Aussie , our RAzr Ms are unlockable.
My Australian Telstra branded Razr M spat out an unlock code via the motorola unlock website just like the dev edition phones do. It says right on that website if your phone is ineligible you will receive an error. And I got the code, not the error.
Ausdroid also says explicitly they have confirmation Aussie Razr M is unlockable via moto website.
PJcons, I notice the same discussion on whirlpool, seriously if you don't believe this answer then go and try it yourself, no point asking repeatedly esp as you are confusing people here who have the US CDMA verizon version not the aussie GSM/LTE1800 Telstra version. Also, there is already an existing thread (me lol) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964862
However re: actually unlocking, I can't confirm the last step i.e. actually doing it. The only reason I haven't actually gone ahead is because there is actually no point at this stage as we don't have access to any remotely mature custom ROMs, and the only CWM floating around is not confirmed working on our variant (though as long as it doesn't touch the radio, theoretically it should). But I'm reluctant to do anything without having a stock Telstra fastboot image as a last resort roll-back option, years and years of flashing droids has taught me that if nothing else. Theoretically though I do not see how it could possibly fail if you have the token.
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I there are telstra xmls & xt905 twrp backups in the dev forum
As stated. Updated my wife's xt907 to the newest update without unlocking, but was able to keep root privileges. I'm pretty sure that I'm in the pool along with everyone else as far as having to wait for a new unlock method. But I wanted to check. Am I stuck?
Thx for any help.
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csstamatin said:
As stated. Updated my wife's xt907 to the newest update without unlocking, but was able to keep root privileges. I'm pretty sure that I'm in the pool along with everyone else as far as having to wait for a new unlock method. But I wanted to check. Am I stuck?
Thx for any help.
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I posted this the other day on another thread....
I just had an email exchange with the motorola support people today. My question was whether the OEM Unlock Bootloader Program would be extended to cover the non-developer RAZR phones. The person I was working with stated that she would escalate the question to her management for potential consideration. My thought is that if enough users make this request, then maybe they might consider it.
I used the following URL to contact them (after I signed in.)
motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/prod_ask/
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I want to root my Razr M and need assistance as I've never rooted a phone before. Could someone link me a safe guide that I can use? My phone is that "Not for sale. Motorola Mobility Confidential Restricted Property" version and it apparently can't seem to detect any kitkat update(even though razr m has the update). So I'm going to root it and update it to kitkat. I'm not a noob per say, just that I haven't ever rooted a phone and have least bit knowledge about cellphones.
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I want to root my Razr M and need assistance as I've never rooted a phone before. Could someone link me a safe guide that I can use? My phone is that "Not for sale. Motorola Mobility Confidential Restricted Property" version and it apparently can't seem to detect any kitkat update(even though razr m has the update). So I'm going to root it and update it to kitkat. I'm not a noob per say, just that I haven't ever rooted a phone and have least bit knowledge about cellphones.
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Update it first, root with Towel Root, then unlock the bootloader.
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RikRong said:
Update it first, root with Towel Root, then unlock the bootloader.
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He says his phone can not detect the update. He cannot update, is his point I believe. Does towelroot work on jellybean or is it just for the newer kernels and what not?
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I got it to work on the .3 jb
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ijx092 said:
I want to root my Razr M and need assistance as I've never rooted a phone before. Could someone link me a safe guide that I can use? My phone is that "Not for sale. Motorola Mobility Confidential Restricted Property" version and it apparently can't seem to detect any kitkat update(even though razr m has the update). So I'm going to root it and update it to kitkat. I'm not a noob per say, just that I haven't ever rooted a phone and have least bit knowledge about cellphones.
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if towelroot doesnt work...I rooted my razr m (4.1.2....98.30.1) a couple months ago with this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758 should give you clean and easy to follow instructions
I wonder if his boot loader is locked.
Fwiw kitkat killed my battery life.
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He says his phone can not detect the update. He cannot update, is his point I believe. Does towelroot work on jellybean or is it just for the newer kernels and what not?
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Update it the exact same way 90% of us did, with Samuri's tool on Droidrzr. ?
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how to check if bootloader is locked?
I don't want to deal with anything that is going to brick my phone. I cannot afford it. Please, make sure whatever you recommend doesn't do so.
ijx092 said:
how to check if bootloader is locked?
I don't want to deal with anything that is going to brick my phone. I cannot afford it. Please, make sure whatever you recommend doesn't do so.
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power off phone...hold volume up+volume down+power button...when a menu comes up select apfastboot...if ait says status code:3 then your unlocked
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how to check if bootloader is locked?
I don't want to deal with anything that is going to brick my phone. I cannot afford it. Please, make sure whatever you recommend doesn't do so.
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Everything has the potential to go bad. So, if you're not willing to accept that, modifying is not for you. With that being said, Sam's update is easy to use if you follow the directions. Once updated, root and unlocking the bootloader are also easy.
Update tool: http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45495-how-to-xt907-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/
Root tool: http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/46155-rootunlock-razr-hdm-build-183-kitkat-towel-root/
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crazy4android said:
power off phone...hold volume up+volume down+power button...when a menu comes up select apfastboot...if ait says status code:3 then your unlocked
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It says device is UNLOCKED, Status Code: 1
RikRong said:
Everything has the potential to go bad. So, if you're not willing to accept that, modifying is not for you. With that being said, Sam's update is easy to use if you follow the directions. Once updated, root and unlocking the bootloader are also easy.
Update tool: http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45495-how-to-xt907-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/
Root tool: http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/46155-rootunlock-razr-hdm-build-183-kitkat-towel-root/
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It says device is UNLOCKED, Status Code: 1
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follow @RikRong post instructions...that should be no problem...it takes time but it really not that difficult ..its more of a mind thing..you'll feel dumb for bein so hesitant to begin with...
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follow @RikRong post instructions...that should be no problem...it takes time but it really not that difficult ..its more of a mind thing..you'll feel dumb for bein so hesitant to begin with...
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My device is unlocked, right? I just have to root it?
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My device is unlocked, right? I just have to root it?
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If it says that then yes, yes it is. ..
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