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Hi guys
Like a idiot ive flashed danger spl without updating the radio and surprise ive got a brick. My phone insurance has told me the g1 has a 2 year warranty and ive got to take it back to tmobile first.
so the questions are,
1 without recovery or fastboot can i fix it at home?
2 if i cant fix it can tmobile tell what ive done to the phone
3 is there anyway i can completly break the phone so it wont even power on so tmobile cant tell what ive done but still replace it under warranty
thanks
Mick
mick90 said:
Hi guys
Like a idiot ive flashed danger spl without updating the radio and surprise ive got a brick. My phone insurance has told me the g1 has a 2 year warranty and ive got to take it back to tmobile first.
so the questions are,
1 without recovery or fastboot can i fix it at home?
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If you're good with a soldering iron... cost about $5 for parts you need to make a jtag interface. Read the jtag thread in the dev forum.
2 if i cant fix it can tmobile tell what ive done to the phone
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CAN? Certainly. WILL? doubtful.
3 is there anyway i can completly break the phone so it wont even power on so tmobile cant tell what ive done but still replace it under warranty
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Smashing the thing with a sledge hammer should do it, but I strongly believe that this will actually void your warranty.
I suggest that this is a real bone-headed move on your part and you deserve what you got. Returning the thing now for warranty is FRAUD since this is CLEARLY *your fault*. Flashing the 1.33.2005 SPL is not only POINTLESS, it also can be done SAFELY *even with a non-matching radio installed*. Of course you would have to actually read the instructions to learn what the safe way actually IS. Not that its hard to find... its in this forum's WIKI: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/phpwiki213/index.php?pagename=HTC_Dream_Bootloader (look under "new/safe install instructions"). Wow, you didn't read that, did you?
Pointless, you ask? Absofrigginuseless: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717874
aint you Mr happy
thanks for your advice
you should be fine (just don't tell them what you did) however he is right it is fraud.
and you WERE stupid enough to do the one thing that can brick your g1 soo.........
themapleboy said:
you should be fine (just don't tell them what you did) however he is right it is fraud.
and you WERE stupid enough to do the one thing that can brick your g1 soo.........
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thanks you very much, and i do mean that.
i know i made a mistake. Like most mistakes it was a moment of stupidness
just exploring my options for getting the phone sorted.
And i like your more user friendly reply
Today i flashed my Tab with Gingerbread 2.3.3 for the forth time after Moding it a bit while having the Galaxy S plugged in and of course Odin flashed both...
so probably it changed the bootloader on it and now the Galaxy S wouldn't respond to anything,
button combinations dont work
plugging usb and then holding Vol-Up + Vol-Down while slipping battery back does nothing, I even tried the mythical Hair dryer and that took me nowhere
... its dead.
I read somewhere that the JIG is not for my case so i skipped it...
now what? is there anything else i should try? if not, is taking it to good ol' Sammy going to do me any good?
or should i just consider it a very expensive piece of home decoration.
***PS sorry if i posted this in the wrong section.
i had a soft brick on a vibrant last night and the only thing that worked for me was pressing the vol up and down and THEN plugging in the usb to the computer.... then the software loader screen came up allowing me to USE odin AND FLASH stock tmo os
devilsadidas said:
i had a soft brick on a vibrant last night and the only thing that worked for me was pressing the vol up and down and THEN plugging in the usb to the computer.... then the software loader screen came up allowing me to USE odin AND FLASH stock tmo os
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well, good for you but as for me.. that didn't do the trick.. I am here hoping to get a magical answer but almost sure that this wont happen.. sammy should expect my visit soon
I Know
Are you under contract? and did you buy the phone from a certified retailer? if so you can say that your phone shut off and wont turn on. i bricked my phone twice (HTC EVO) and took it back to sprint and the replaced the phone because it was a "manufacturing default". hope this helps!
well that sucks, know how you feel except mine had a bit better of an outcome. sux
NannansDilema said:
Are you under contract? and did you buy the phone from a certified retailer? if so you can say that your phone shut off and wont turn on. i bricked my phone twice (HTC EVO) and took it back to sprint and the replaced the phone because it was a "manufacturing default". hope this helps!
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well not exactly, i bought it when i was traveling and i am not quite sure our dealers here don't accept international warranties...
I just hope that they would know how to fix it, without costing me the price of a new one that is
You've probably thought of this already, but... are you sure your battery has enough juice left to boot up? Happened to me once and scared the heck out of me.
zwizzle said:
You've probably thought of this already, but... are you sure your battery has enough juice left to boot up? Happened to me once and scared the heck out of me.
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Thanks for the Idea but yeah, My phone was at 95% when i Killed it with a bad flash
Sounds like you might need a jtag for it. There is a post on the home page portal maybe a page or two back on how to do it yourself or the guy over at mobile tech videos has a jtag service. It is used for bringing back the hard bricked devices.
I soft bricked my Nexus S last week, freaking scary!
It took me 6 hours to just it alive by trying over 20 method!
I recently hard bricked my galaxy s4 ive only had the phone for less than 5 days I can't claim it to insurance nor return it because I bought it from a friend. It won't turn on and none of the buttons work. I was trying to unroot my phone and return to a stock kernel and firmware. Is there anything I can do if its hard bricked to get it in download mode. I've already tried making a usb jig and it didn't work. I'm at a loss. I don't have the money to get a new phone or pay for someone to fix mine. Thanks in advance.
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I recently hard bricked my galaxy s4 ive only had the phone for less than 5 days I can't claim it to insurance nor return it because I bought it from a friend. It won't turn on and none of the buttons work. I was trying to unroot my phone and return to a stock kernel and firmware. Is there anything I can do if its hard bricked to get it in download mode. I've already tried making a usb jig and it didn't work. I'm at a loss. I don't have the money to get a new phone or pay for someone to fix mine. Thanks in advance.
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Sorry to hear abt it
i see u already tried couple of things.. have u also checked if the battery u using is charged or its completly dead may be phone is not charging the battery and none of the buttons are working coz of it possble charge with some adapter / use new battery charged etc
i myte be wrong just thinking of some possblty
123hiten said:
Sorry to hear abt it
i see u already tried couple of things.. have u also checked if the battery u using is charged or its completly dead may be phone is not charging the battery and none of the buttons are working coz of it possble charge with some adapter / use new battery charged etc
i myte be wrong just thinking of some possblty
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I tried a different battery as well as different cables and chargers all with no luck. I'm almost 100% sure this phone is hard bricked. I don't understand why a phone would be made that can essentially go into a bricked mode that is ridiculous even if you root it. There should be some type of fail safe boot mode to restore back to stock settings.
njgautier said:
I recently hard bricked my galaxy s4 ive only had the phone for less than 5 days I can't claim it to insurance nor return it because I bought it from a friend. It won't turn on and none of the buttons work. I was trying to unroot my phone and return to a stock kernel and firmware. Is there anything I can do if its hard bricked to get it in download mode. I've already tried making a usb jig and it didn't work. I'm at a loss. I don't have the money to get a new phone or pay for someone to fix mine. Thanks in advance.
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using a usb jig will not help you if you have it hard bricked. usb jigs will only work on soft bricks.. so basically what you need now is someone to JTAG it (idk if jtags work on the S4, but afaik, most of the galaxy devices are revived via jtag)
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using a usb jig will not help you if you have it hard bricked. usb jigs will only work on soft bricks.. so basically what you need now is someone to JTAG it (idk if jtags work on the S4, but afaik, most of the galaxy devices are revived via jtag)
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Well I found out my phone was stolen from a Verizon retail store so I'm going to return it I traded my iphone 5 for it and now the piece of ___ that traded me for it is acting like they didn't know so im pretty much screwed.
try to search the forum or wait for someone to give you the link..and if none of them works try what i have done with my s4..hope this will help you.do not forget to hit the thanks button..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43592092#post43592092
njgautier said:
I recently hard bricked my galaxy s4 ive only had the phone for less than 5 days I can't claim it to insurance nor return it because I bought it from a friend. It won't turn on and none of the buttons work. I was trying to unroot my phone and return to a stock kernel and firmware. Is there anything I can do if its hard bricked to get it in download mode. I've already tried making a usb jig and it didn't work. I'm at a loss. I don't have the money to get a new phone or pay for someone to fix mine. Thanks in advance.
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see my sig for repairing dead boot, it may help
Get the police involved, or at least theaten to do so and get your phone back. Even if the "friend" claims they didn't know, they participated in the exchange of stolen goods and can be prosecuted despite having no knowledge of the crime.
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njgautier said:
Well I found out my phone was stolen from a Verizon retail store so I'm going to return it I traded my iphone 5 for it and now the piece of ___ that traded me for it is acting like they didn't know so im pretty much screwed.
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What a "friend" I been there done that.. I learned and moved on.. moral of the story
never buy used phones unless you are 110% sure where it came from.
Good luck bud, I also have a bricked S4 but its softbricked so i can still access download mode. :victory:
I've got my RIFFbox, and I've been able to connect to the device just fine. I can send the resurrection to the dead body, but I can't get it to boot to Odin mode still. When connecting to PC, it still shows the QPST download mode (QDL mode). I'm currently trying to flash individual partitions to the device.
Any help or suggestions to get this thing out of QPST mode? :/
Thanks!
I've tried 301k & 619k JIGs also, and several known combinations of keys to boot Odin mode.
UPDATE [7-23-13]:
At this time, I've determined that this device is permanently bricked until I can get my hands on the Kies MF3 Odin package and manually load these files via JTAG. However, even this is not guaranteed to fix it. For the time being, I've replaced the device. I'll hold onto the carcass for a little while longer to see if I can get MF3 to boot on it. If I can, I will use this as a test bed for developers to attempt to unlock bootloaders or develop an MF3 root. Otherwise, I eventually plan to part it out, selling things like the screen, etc.
Aou said:
I've got my RIFFbox, and I've been able to connect to the device just fine. I can send the resurrection to the dead body, but I can't get it to boot to Odin mode still. When connecting to PC, it still shows the QPST download mode (QDL mode). I'm currently trying to flash individual partitions to the device.
Any help or suggestions to get this thing out of QPST mode? :/
Thanks!
I've tried 301k & 619k JIGs also, and several known combinations of keys to boot Odin mode.
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Did you PM my tech?
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Did you PM my tech?
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Yup. No reply yet.
Currently flashing the whole 1GB image. Takes forever, so I will let you all know how it goes in a couple hours. I haven't tried flashing the whole MF3 boot chain but it's looking like that's what I will end up needing to try.
Aou said:
Yup. No reply yet.
Currently flashing the whole 1GB image. Takes forever, so I will let you all know how it goes in a couple hours. I haven't tried flashing the whole MF3 boot chain but it's looking like that's what I will end up needing to try.
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I have no doubt you will get it straightened out.
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TheAxman said:
I have no doubt you will get it straightened out.
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No go on the full 1GB flash. In a last-ditch effort, I threw the MF3 version of SBL2, SBL3, ABOOT, TZ, and RPM at it.
Still boots to QHUSB_DLOAD mode.
This is unbelievably frustrating. No matter what I throw at this thing, it refuses to boot. Also, it seems that the only people that know how to JTAG one of these things are not responding.
Try getting a hold of Josh over at mobile tech videos. I believe he goes by connexion2005 here on XDA.
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Red_81 said:
Try getting a hold of Josh over at mobile tech videos. I believe he goes by connexion2005 here on XDA.
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Thank you, but he was the first person I tried contacting. Seems to ignore my PMs, or just doesn't have the time?
He's pretty busy most Days. His business takes up most of his time.
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Aou said:
Thank you, but he was the first person I tried contacting. Seems to ignore my PMs, or just doesn't have the time?
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Have you tried contacting @AdamOutler? If I remember from the early Captivate days he worked with Josh to get the JTAG stuff working. He's definitely very knowledgeable when it comes to Samsung hardware.
I'm pretty sure you need a JTAG flash with an up to date firmware. There was someone else who's device refused to boot and he managed to unbrick with software. I take it that this is due to messing with bootloaders and trying to revert? btw... quote or mention usually gets my attention.
Devo7v said:
Have you tried contacting @AdamOutler? If I remember from the early Captivate days he worked with Josh to get the JTAG stuff working. He's definitely very knowledgeable when it comes to Samsung hardware.
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... - didn't try - last I knew he didn't accept PMs.
AdamOutler said:
I'm pretty sure you need a JTAG flash with an up to date firmware. There was someone else who's device refused to boot and he managed to unbrick with software. I take it that this is due to messing with bootloaders and trying to revert? btw... quote or mention usually gets my attention.
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Yes, this is from flashing MF3 Sbl2 and Sbl3 (without aboot and tz). I've tried flashing the whole MF3 bootchain, and it still doesn't like it. Still boots to QPST mode.
EDIT/ADD:
At this point, I've flashed these:
PGPT (and SGPT) from the 1GB "full dump" provided by riffbox (assuming MDB or MDL - it was released 7/3/13)
PIT from the forums around here somewhere (seems identical to one from dump)
MD5 from dump
(empty area) from dump
apnhlos (aka non-hlos) from MF3
MDM from MF3
sbl1 from AdamOutler's MDB dump
sbl2 from MF3
sbl3 from MF3
aboot from MF3
rpm from MF3
tz from MF3
Yeah, tried it all again, for good measure. Starting to wonder if this thing is completely and utterly bricked? It makes no logical sense. Something is still triggering it to enter QPST mode. Again, I've tried using 301k (and a few other) Ohm resistance JIGs to try booting immediately the flash. Nada. Using the 4.2v power supply from the Riffbox, tried USB power (kinda difficult to flash things solderless when the daughterboard is attached, but possible), tried battery power only... All appear to work fine in Riff, all allow me to read and write any address I want.
I'm about to the point where I'm going to scrap this for parts to help get a new one. :/
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Yeah, tried it all again, for good measure. Starting to wonder if this thing is completely and utterly bricked? It makes no logical sense. Something is still triggering it to enter QPST mode. Again, I've tried using 301k (and a few other) Ohm resistance JIGs to try booting immediately the flash. Nada. Using the 4.2v power supply from the Riffbox, tried USB power (kinda difficult to flash things solderless when the daughterboard is attached, but possible), tried battery power only... All appear to work fine in Riff, all allow me to read and write any address I want.
I'm about to the point where I'm going to scrap this for parts to help get a new one. :/
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Could sell for parts for around 300 or so ?
Adam is right, you did get the newest firmware they have online right?
Did Derek get hold of you? I had him busy at work today, he had to load 50+ laptops with win 7, big money involved, I will IM him for you.
@AdamOutler @Aou
same exact thing happened to me i did the same thing with the verizon update and sent it out to josh @ mobiletechvideos.com
just got my device back today and its still Bricked !?!?!?!? either josh and his guys just failed to test it or there is no way to fix these phones
1. this really pisses me off i sent it to the most reputable guy in the buisness and got it back in this condition.
2. for the odd case that its just a complete loss i have one thing to say to samsung, vzw, att....
basically moral of the story is i wouldnt sell your phone for parts to get another wait until i/we hear back from mobiletechvideo then sell you device and never buy a samsung device again as long as it is locked
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@AdamOutler @Aou
same exact thing happened to me i did the same thing with the verizon update and sent it out to josh @ mobiletechvideos.com
just got my device back today and its still Bricked !?!?!?!? either josh and his guys just failed to test it or there is no way to fix these phones
1. this really pisses me off i sent it to the most reputable guy in the buisness and got it back in this condition.
2. for the odd case that its just a complete loss i have one thing to say to samsung, vzw, att....
basically moral of the story is i wouldnt sell your phone for parts to get another wait until i/we hear back from mobiletechvideo then sell you device and never buy a samsung device again as long as it is locked
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I've been a diehard Samsung supporter since the GS1 came out. The hardware quality is awesome. Unfortunately, their policies are beginning to become unfriendly for developers. The issue you're having is due 100% to Samsung's desire to lock people out of custom kernels.
Isn't it AT&T and VZW who are locking it?
TheAxman said:
Adam is right, you did get the newest firmware they have online right?
Did Derek get hold of you? I had him busy at work today, he had to load 50+ laptops with win 7, big money involved, I will IM him for you.
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I got the latest firmware that I could find - but it's dated 7-3-13 (a week before the MF3 patch). Does Kies have MF3 yet? I might be able to live with MF3 if I were able to retain a custom recovery and therefore root (via injection). It'd mean no custom ROMs until a new "Loki" (or equivalent) is made, or we get these blasted bootloaders unlocked.
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@AdamOutler @Aou
same exact thing happened to me i did the same thing with the verizon update and sent it out to josh @ mobiletechvideos.com
just got my device back today and its still Bricked !?!?!?!? either josh and his guys just failed to test it or there is no way to fix these phones
1. this really pisses me off i sent it to the most reputable guy in the buisness and got it back in this condition.
2. for the odd case that its just a complete loss i have one thing to say to samsung, vzw, att....
basically moral of the story is i wouldnt sell your phone for parts to get another wait until i/we hear back from mobiletechvideo then sell you device and never buy a samsung device again as long as it is locked
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I would REALLY like to hear what the deal was with mobiletechvideos.com & @connexion2005 has to say about our situation here. My plan was to cut my losses on Monday if I am not able to get it fixed this weekend. This is really crazy news for me - Josh is indeed the most reputable JTAG guy in the industry (afaik). For them to send that back still bricked is a really bad sign! (Makes my situation look pretty much hopeless!)
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I've been a diehard Samsung supporter since the GS1 came out. The hardware quality is awesome. Unfortunately, their policies are beginning to become unfriendly for developers. The issue you're having is due 100% to Samsung's desire to lock people out of custom kernels.
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Indeed, I've had the Infuse, S2, and now the S4. I love Samsung's handsets, and I traditionally loved how much modification you could do to these handsets to customize them. However, with locked bootloaders and such, this is becoming quite the joke - and the joke's on us, it seems.
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As an update to my situation, I haven't tried anything new since my last post. Still waiting to find new ideas or hear some suggestions.
beanstown106 said:
@AdamOutler @Aou
just got my device back today and its still Bricked !?!?!?!? either josh and his guys just failed to test it or there is no way to fix these phones
1. this really pisses me off i sent it to the most reputable guy in the buisness and got it back in this condition.
2. for the odd case that its just a complete loss i have one thing to say to samsung, vzw, att....
basically moral of the story is i wouldnt sell your phone for parts to get another wait until i/we hear back from mobiletechvideo then sell you device and never buy a samsung device again as long as it is locked
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I screwed up my S4 recently and it was being fixed (hopefully) from MobileTechVideos. Josh is really a good guy and back in my S1 Cappy days I had to send one to him. We chatted on the phone about android stuff quite a bit back then.
So I screwed up the kernel I believe trying to make a kernel splash screen, flashed in recovery and when it rebooted I just got a vibration every 3-5 seconds. Tried Odin MDB and MDL firmware with both always passing. But still same results when it went to reboot.
Now seeing this comment you made has me actually worried now. Have you contacted them about it still being bricked yet? Or did they send it back with refunding the charges since it wouldn't work? Crap it I f'ed it over after only 1 week of having it and it cannot be resurrected. Now I know my situation is different as I have NOT messed with anything from MF3 at all. But if something else is going on inside that MobileTechVideos couldn't fix has me worried.
Also @Adam, I feel the same way about the quality of the Galaxy lines as I have had the S1,S2, S3, and now S4. But I am seeing the writing on the wall with Samsung and ATT showing me this COULD BE my last of them.
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Hard Bricked Phone: A Phone that won't turn on by any means. Booting to the OS or even opening the Custom/Stock recovery or Download Mode simply won't work.
I've searched plenty of forums regarding Android phones that are "Bricked". But it seems to me that most of the instructions laid out by the "replyer" require the phone to be opened up using special combinations of buttons that would either lead to the Custom/Stock recovery mode or the Download mode which is basically a definition of a "Soft Bricked Phone". A phone wherein it would still turn on and simply has problems with how the OS/Kernel/whatever runs.
Problem: I toyed with my Samsung Galaxy S4 in such a way that it would deal with underclocking my phone. I know that underclocking is a risky thing to do. But I was lowering it to the point where My phone would still run stable... until one day it just suddenly gave out. My phone would still turn on but for about 2 seconds and it would turn itself off immediately. That means that even if i was fast enough to go into the download mode or to my Custom Recovery mode, it would still shut off completely as if I pulled my battery out of my phone.
I'm not really in an INSANE need of help to repair my phone, but a good "Fixing a Hard-Bricked Phone is impossible." or something would definitely help as it would give me a sense of peace around all the threads claiming that they can fix such said phones that are in the same working condition as a brick.
thank you for any help.
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Yeah, if the device doesn't turn on through any manner of key press combinations, you're pretty much screwed. I assume when you connect the device to the PC you get nothing?
If I use some type of flashing program from my pc that detects my phone on download mode, it sort off detects it for half to a full second until my phone will give in.
Thanks for the reply.
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- Just to keep dusts away.
friend is totally repairable but you have to disarm and perform jtag will return as magic JTAG samsumg you team only will be damaged the initializer in 95% of cases is so
larrywilson said:
friend is totally repairable but you have to disarm and perform jtag will return as magic JTAG samsumg you team only will be damaged the initializer in 95% of cases is so
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JTAG? As in that Jtag brick repair where in you disassemble the back part of your phone and you have to connect the Riff/Jtag box to the 6 small pins and use a software on the computer to use the "resurrection" button? . Looking at that process, it does make it possible to unbrick insanely bricked phones. However I do need a device for that and a bit of electronic skills in which I have no background on. Not to mention that buying such device almost costs the same as buying another Samsung galaxy s4 from where I come from. Seems like overkill at this point haha.
Thanks for the reply as it did answer my question, but I think I'll try sticking to other possible alternatives if any. :fingers-crossed:
@gobbler6000: Not to mention owning one of those devices is questionable legality, depending on where you are.
To be honest, after five years, it's not worth trying to resurrect a dead S4. Sell it for parts and purchase a newer device. Used devices should be easy to come by, and I'm sure you could get a good bargain that way.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@gobbler6000: Not to mention owning one of those devices is questionable legality, depending on where you are.
To be honest, after five years, it's not worth trying to resurrect a dead S4. Sell it for parts and purchase a newer device. Used devices should be easy to come by, and I'm sure you could get a good bargain that way.
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Thanks! It's the hard and cold truth but I guess s4 is definitely not worth the trouble now. I thought I could probably use my old phone without spending a few bucks. I'll just use my 13 year old appeal and lotsa chores to get my parents' appeal for a new phone.
In one way or another, the questions were answered. How do I lock this thread? :fingers-crossed:
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In one way or another, the questions were answered. How do I lock this thread? :fingers-crossed:
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You don't. Report the thread to a mod and ask them to close it.
harry779 said:
I have faced the same situation once and one of the blog has helped me that I have mentioned below.
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Link seems kinda scammy. It's also of no help to the OP. Besides the fact this thread is from last year, the OP's device was hard-bricked. Your link spends most of its bandwidth on soft-brick solutions, devoting only a single paragraph on hard bricks. That one paragraph on the page can be summed up in two words: you're screwed.