Just got to say this is the best phone I have ever had. I've come from the HTC one and I'm impressed. The only thing I'm disappointed in its the camera.
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Just got to say this is the best phone I have ever had. I've come from the HTC one and I'm impressed. The only thing I'm disappointed in its the camera.
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The only thing you're disappointed in..is the only thing I'm looking forward to.. I'm coming from a nexus 4.
How much did you get d6603 for? and where?
Lan3y said:
Just got to say this is the best phone I have ever had. I've come from the HTC one and I'm impressed. The only thing I'm disappointed in its the camera.
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Exactly my sentiments. Despite the camera, I am still VERY satisfied with this phone. Just pure awesomeness. It is a league classier than the iPhone and the M8. The only direct competitors in the design dept.
Lan3y said:
Just got to say this is the best phone I have ever had. I've come from the HTC one and I'm impressed. The only thing I'm disappointed in its the camera.
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Im thinking of getting this phone so can u share what is wrong with the camera?
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Im thinking of getting this phone so can u share what is wrong with the camera?
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I don't mean to speak out of turn but your experience will be relative to what device and camera quality you are accustomed to. If you compare with the likes of the HTC One m7 m8, the OG Moto X or the nexus 4 then you will find the Z3 a big improvement. However, if you are coming from a Galaxy s4/5 or an iPhone 5s/6, then it will be only 'comparable'. Comparable because 1. Sony shines, excuse the pun in the low light area of photography 2. It has better slow motion control in video compared to the others and does give you that 20mp sensor with hardware two stage shutter button 3. I found the digital image stabilization to be better than Apple's OIS (see Btekt youtube vs video). But it is underwhelming when compared to the competition when it comes to zoomed in detail, capture speed and motion blur reduction in still photos. I hope that helps.
I do think this can be addressed with some firmware updates from Sony. They have sent FW updates to the Z2 in the past and made improvements to the camera this way.
For me this is the second best phone I have ever had. Topped by htc one m8. I like the screen more on this one but everything else goes to htc. Even the camera.
Sony should do something with the software.
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I don't mean to speak out of turn but your experience will be relative to what device and camera quality you are accustomed to. If you compare with the likes of the HTC One m7 m8, the OG Moto X or the nexus 4 then you will find the Z3 a big improvement. However, if you are coming from a Galaxy s4/5 or an iPhone 5s/6, then it will be only 'comparable'. Comparable because 1. Sony shines, excuse the pun in the low light area of photography 2. It has better slow motion control in video compared to the others and does give you that 20mp sensor with hardware two stage shutter button 3. I found the digital image stabilization to be better than Apple's OIS (see Btekt youtube vs video). But it is underwhelming when compared to the competition when it comes to zoomed in detail, capture speed and motion blur reduction in still photos. I hope that helps.
I do think this can be addressed with some firmware updates from Sony. They have sent FW updates to the Z2 in the past and made improvements to the camera this way.
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I think that is where we differ on opinions. I came from the m7 and prefer the camera on the m7. The photos just look real compared to the washed out look of the z3.
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I think that is where we differ on opinions. I came from the m7 and prefer the camera on the m7. The photos just look real compared to the washed out look of the z3.
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I respect your view sir. It is strange that almost every independent review has rated the m8 as the worst performing camera. Mainly due to the low amount of detail. If what you say is true, then the Z3 would be a new low. LOL. Peace.
Best multimedia device to me. Not the the best at any one thing, but well rounded and good at everything. Give me a good swiss army knife any day over the sharpest kitchen blade! Thats the z3!
Coolest and geekiest (in a good) way device. N900. That thing was like minipc with ancient specs that they just decided to slap phone app to! Lol. Damn i miss that thing!
Best phone ever purely on phone aspect.... N95-8gig baby what else! Lol!
A lot of biasoty in this post of course! Lol!
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For me this is the second best phone I have ever had. Topped by htc one m8. I like the screen more on this one but everything else goes to htc. Even the camera.
Sony should do something with the software.
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If everything is better on the HTC one but the screen you then I guess you will be using the One as your daily driver, right?
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If everything is better on the HTC one but the screen you then I guess you will be using the One as your daily driver, right?
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Well I tested the z3 this weekend and put it for sale this morning. I left m8 at my office on Friday and will make the change back to it tomorrow.
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Well I tested the z3 this weekend and put it for sale this morning. I left m8 at my office on Friday and will make the change back to it tomorrow.
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What made you want to change back?
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Well I tested the z3 this weekend and put it for sale this morning. I left m8 at my office on Friday and will make the change back to it tomorrow.
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Whatever makes you happy and fits your needs! But the M8 will never take pics like these in the link below. Plus if you wanted to crop one to get a close up of one of the animals. The 4 MP in the M8 really falls apart.
I did not take these pictures. They were posted in the Z3 pictures thread.....
https://plus.google.com/photos/104445511388483363462/albums/6066742750944185089
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Well I tested the z3 this weekend and put it for sale this morning. I left m8 at my office on Friday and will make the change back to it tomorrow.
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i came from an M8 to the z3. i think everything about the Z3 (in terms of what it has to offer) is better then the M8 maybe except the design of the phone. am really liking the Sony UI as well as the intense battery saving functions. This is the first phone so far for me that I can leave it unrooted with everything on (location, google services) and not have to worry about the battery dying mid day.
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Whatever makes you happy and fits your needs! But the M8 will never take pics like these in the link below. Plus if you wanted to crop one to get a close up of one of the animals. The 4 MP in the M8 really falls apart.
I did not take these pictures. They were posted in the Z3 pictures thread.....
https://plus.google.com/photos/104445511388483363462/albums/6066742750944185089
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What makes this phone fall apart is the inconsistency of the pictures. Sometimes you get a nice result but more often you end up disappointed. M8 on the other hand while not the best camera is quite consistent, you know what you will get. You won't get zoomamble images but on phone screen gorgeous.
When I used it a lot of people said that wow this phone takes nice pictures.
But yup, still on Sony. It's growing on me.
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Mostly software. Call me crazy but I like sense.
But also I notice that Sony is not as comfortable to hold. They did round the edges so it's better than z2 but still m8 feels quite nice with the curved back.
But let's see, now when it's time to apart from Sony I am getting hesitant
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Oh and also : Is it just me or is the camera lens location annoying? I get my finger there quite often. I like it more when it's in the middle.
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Oh and also : Is it just me or is the camera lens location annoying? I get my finger there quite often. I like it more when it's in the middle.
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lol I'm completely the opposite. I would always get my finger in the M8 lens. so far I havent gotten my finger in the Z3 lense yet
some people are putting way too much emphasis on the camera. Realize one thing people, you use a phone to take pictures for social media, you are not going to use it for your professional work, so for something like an HTC one M8 it should be more than enough. Also, Megapixel isn't everything, the Iphone 6 takes amazing pictures having only have 8 MP.
I came from the HTC One (M8) to the Z3 about 2 weeks ago.
Overall, I am pleased with the switch for several reasons:
- battery life of the Z3. Even though the M8 has great battery life, nothing on the market comes close to the Z3 right now. Unbelievable battery autonomy.
- bezels. Both devices are the same size, yet the Z3 has a bigger display. The M8's bezels were too big for my taste.
- build quality. My M8 has a loose volume rocker and the camera was scratched beyond recognition. I had to apply toothpaste to get rid of the scratches and it made my camera very sensitive to light and basically ruined the already awful camera.
Things I miss about the M8:
- the metal finish. Boy that was nice to feel! The Z3 has the metal bezels, but the back of the M8 was just lovely.
- the "grip" of the phone. The rounded back of the M8 made it easy to hold and handle. the Z3, while better than Z1/Z2, is still a bit too squarish to my taste.
Both fantastic devices, can't go wrong with either. The Z3 just has that extra 'oomph'.
EDIT: of course, I also miss the development options of the M8. Once you S-OFF the M8 you're basically free to do whatever you want. on the other hand I don't even have root on the Z3 still, unless I want to unlock the bootloader and actually lose some features.
If Sony chose to use capacitave buttons rather than functionally have a 4.7" display for a lot of apps due to the navigation bar, I might agree. That is a LOT bezel that could be used and tear down supports there was space for it.
I curse Android and their space hogging capacitave button loving ways. At least Samsung gets it (FWIW) and LG at least made an effort to mitigate the nav bar with immersive mode on the G2/G3.
JMO
CandyAndy said:
What makes this phone fall apart is the inconsistency of the pictures. Sometimes you get a nice result but more often you end up disappointed. M8 on the other hand while not the best camera is quite consistent, you know what you will get. You won't get zoomamble images but on phone screen gorgeous.
When I used it a lot of people said that wow this phone takes nice pictures.
But yup, still on Sony. It's growing on me.
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Mostly software. Call me crazy but I like sense.
But also I notice that Sony is not as comfortable to hold. They did round the edges so it's better than z2 but still m8 feels quite nice with the curved back.
But let's see, now when it's time to apart from Sony I am getting hesitant
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Oh and also : Is it just me or is the camera lens location annoying? I get my finger there quite often. I like it more when it's in the middle.
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Ok.....you're crazy! Just messing with you. I liked Sense as welll. I think it is the best skin out there. Very fast and responsive.
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Hi guys and gals,
got my Xperia Z today and am really disappointed with the display viewing angles. Just wanted to share a few shots with you for comparison.
(Don't hate me for the iDevice, it's a business phone, didn't have a choice :angel: )
The bad thing is: you really notice the color distortion at normal use. While looking up front, everything's fine. But tilt in any direction and you immediately see the problem. Didn't expect the 4x display to be so much better, minus the resolution. Maybe I just have caught a "bad" Xperia, but... meh. Guess I will return it and wait for the X-Phone or so.
I read on a german site that users are reporting a great variety in display quality, this is really a bummer on a flagship smartphone.
regards,
pint
Looks good to me.
Al Gore said:
Looks good to me.
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Same here
That's not even close to bad. The two others uses IPS displays and the Z does not.
pintness said:
Hi guys and gals,
got my Xperia Z today and am really disappointed with the display viewing angles. Just wanted to share a few shots with you for comparison.
(Don't hate me for the iDevice, it's a business phone, didn't have a choice :angel: )
The bad thing is: you really notice the color distortion at normal use. While looking up front, everything's fine. But tilt in any direction and you immediately see the problem. Didn't expect the 4x display to be so much better, minus the resolution. Maybe I just have caught a "bad" Xperia, but... meh. Guess I will return it and wait for the X-Phone or so.
I read on a german site that users are reporting a great variety in display quality, this is really a bummer on a flagship smartphone.
regards,
pint
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Whats the issue, 99% of the time you will look head one, which your photo proves Sony is as good as the other phones.
Is this a troll thread?
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Looks good to me.
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Same here
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agreed
samxool said:
Whats the issue, 99% of the time you will look head one, which your photo proves Sony is as good as the other phones.
Is this a troll thread?
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to be fair, not every one has the same expectations and preferences so if you really want good viewing angles this is not the phone for you or if you feel you miss out when other phones have better viewing angles, this is not the phone for you. in the end of the day Sony could have prevented this by using a better panel.
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The screen quality looks amazing! Viewing angels are alot better than expected too.
The Sony Xperia Z looks much sleeker and has a better design compared to the other 2. The Iphone looks tiny.
Wow... Are ppl this mindless? It was proven that the screens are all the same. How can some look bad and some great? Simple. They can't.
What is happening is that some ppl are just shouting about how great the scrrn is, while ignoring a huge flaw.
I don't understand why ppl don't recognize this and speak up? Tell Sony you arent happy so they can change it in the next version.
Why are ppl settling for less?
In before people accuse me of being a troll...
Maedhros said:
Wow... Are ppl this mindless? It was proven that the screens are all the same. How can some look bad and some great? Simple. They can't.
What is happening is that some ppl are just shouting about how great the scrrn is, while ignoring a huge flaw.
I don't understand why ppl don't recognize this and speak up? Tell Sony you arent happy so they can change it in the next version.
Why are ppl settling for less?
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This is sad. Why's it affecting you more than people who will and already have shelled out money for it?
omersak said:
This is sad. Why's it affecting you more than people who will and already have shelled out money for it?
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Because... The better phones Sony Makes, the better for eveeyone. Simple capitalism. I have a vested interest in pointing out flaws in the device, just as I am critical of several things on otther device
Such as DDR2 Ram on the HTC one instead of DDR3. Not to mention low GL bench scores and the the camera not necessarily living up to the hype.
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Because... The better phones Sony Makes, the better for eveeyone. Simple capitalism. I have a vested interest in pointing out flaws in the device, just as I am critical of several things on otther device
Such as DDR2 Ram on the HTC one instead of DDR3. Not to mention low GL bench scores and the the camera not necessarily living up to the hype.
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So, when the S4 is announced with exynos 5, i take it you'll focus 100% to the HTC One forms and repeatedly post about it being outdated and obsolete - right? You know, like exactly you did with the Xperia Z.
Please can you take a photo with a better camera? Thanks
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Whats the issue, 99% of the time you will look head one, which your photo proves Sony is as good as the other phones.
Is this a troll thread?
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Nobody looks on their smartphone in the exact same angle 99% of the time. Do you hold your smartphone straight before your eyes when you look at it? Because that's the only angle the colors are shown correct. The slightest tilt will result in distortion and this ist f*ing annoying.
I have my phone lying on the table while reading news or watching videos, imagine that. Looks ****ty.
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That's not even close to bad. The two others uses IPS displays and the Z does not.
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Why would I care what kind of screen Sony uses on the XPZ, I just want an AWESOME screen. This is cleary not awesome.
Don't forget it's a 600€-phone, you should expect a high-end-display on this one.
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Please can you take a photo with a better camera? Thanks
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The camera's great, I just had not-ideal settings. But given I wanted to show the color distortion, I guess the problem is pretty obvious. What do you want to see?
pintness said:
Hi guys and gals,
got my Xperia Z today and am really disappointed with the display viewing angles. Just wanted to share a few shots with you for comparison.
(Don't hate me for the iDevice, it's a business phone, didn't have a choice :angel: )
The bad thing is: you really notice the color distortion at normal use. While looking up front, everything's fine. But tilt in any direction and you immediately see the problem. Didn't expect the 4x display to be so much better, minus the resolution. Maybe I just have caught a "bad" Xperia, but... meh. Guess I will return it and wait for the X-Phone or so.
I read on a german site that users are reporting a great variety in display quality, this is really a bummer on a flagship smartphone.
regards,
pint
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Yuck that is pretty bad.
I should have mine soon, guess I'll see how I get on before the return period runs out..
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Nobody looks on their smartphone in the exact same angle 99% of the time. Do you hold your smartphone straight before your eyes when you look at it? Because that's the only angle the colors are shown correct. The slightest tilt will result in distortion and this ist f*ing annoying.
I have my phone lying on the table while reading news or watching videos, imagine that. Looks ****ty.
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Not true, sorry.
Here are my shots of Z in the store:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=205054&p=106&g=Go
The fourth photo shows the phone at an angle (even this is unnatural though) and everything looks great.
Mind it's a shop where strong lights reflect on the Z's surface.
Al Gore said:
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can u post img of ur xZ for viewing andgle?
doministry said:
Not true, sorry.
Here are my shots of Z in the store:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=205054&p=106&g=Go
The fourth photo shows the phone at an angle (even this is unnatural though) and everything looks great.
Mind it's a shop where strong lights reflect on the Z's surface.
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Compare the icon colours of picture 2+3 to the colors on picture 1. Obvious.
Since there are no colours on picture 4, take a look at the software button bar and compare the lightness to that on on picture 1. Pretty much different, I don't think it looks too great.
edit: also compare the software button bar on pic 2+3 to pic 1, it's almost as "nice" as the display on my Archos A70.
Wow XZ screen looks really wonderful at first pic, which the same viewing angle I use 99% of the time
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Japanese vs European screen
Japanese is better (disregarding grey navigation bars on Euro models)
Tell us what you like and dislike personally about your phone(not that there is a lot that you could dislike about this device), I don't care what it may be. Let us know how much you love or hate your HTC ONE.
AND IF your gonna post telling me how much you hate the thread and that it's useless then honestly if it was useless you wouldn't of bothered opening it. So your comments will not be acknowledged.
By the way, you CAN repeat already posted comments, because it is your opinion.
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4MP camera (UPixel). Sure it does a fine job in low light, but one distance comes into factors the quality goes out the window.
I'm not much of a camera person, but it sucks in concerts, and when trying to capture something couple blocks down. I'm always promoting the HTC one to people, but when a GS3 takes better pictures it's progress lost.
Other then that I love this phone.
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4MP camera and the complete lack of QC.
lol @ capturing something "down the block", use your feet to zoom or buy a decent DSLR with a couple thousand collar lens.
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What possible reason do you guys need more than 4mp? Are you printing 8x10 photos?
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lol @ capturing something "down the block", use your feet to zoom or buy a decent DSLR with a couple thousand collar lens.
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What possible reason do you guys need more than 4mp? Are you printing 8x10 photos?
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You must have a pretty dismal life.
bloodrain954 said:
lol @ capturing something "down the block", use your feet to zoom or buy a decent DSLR with a couple thousand collar lens.
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What possible reason do you guys need more than 4mp? Are you printing 8x10 photos?
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Well when an Osprey is landing you kind of need to stay at a distance safety an all and you think hey look that's cool let me take a picture and it comes out horrible. It's advertised to have one of the best cameras on a phone yet a GS3 takes better distance pictures.
Not everything can be taken just a few feet away. Anyways moving along, other then that everything else is awesome.
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I wish the phone could be disassembled. Not being able to service the device myself is a big down side. If I could find someone that is willing to trade for the N5 I would do it in a second.
I dislike the silly power button placement. The volume buttons are also very hard to find and press. the camera is ok. unless you look at the pictures on a screen that's bigger than 5". other than that i'm happy with my one, especially since i got rid of nonSense and converted to gpe . oh and boomsound is also a massive disappointment.
The camera is pretty bad and the battery life is not that good.
The camera quality is a huge dissapointment and Blickfeed. The idea of Blinkfed is good, but articles need to go when read and I would like to mix in RSS. Besides that I find battery life great in general use and love thd feel of it and the display. Best mobild yet.
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lol @ capturing something "down the block", use your feet to zoom or buy a decent DSLR with a couple thousand collar lens.
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You don't know the term "netiquette", do you?
The most is probably the camera. But, I don't take too many pics so it's not that big of a deal.
Camera is #1 con for most. Including me.other than that i would say power button is a little misplaced. Won't be that much problem as soon as I can get used to S2W which takes time for me.
Unable to tear apart. But I treat my phone like gold so no need to yet.
Pros
Batterylife? can't complain, was terrible at first, but probably because it was partly default until it defaulted completely. Sent it in for repair, now I'm super happy. Getting two days give or take. (On Maximus and ElementalX.)
Alu body finish. Just class.
Screen, wonderful
Best speakers ever.
Superb xda community and Rom support.
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It's so slippery. I'm keeping a case on it mainly for this reason.
Love the front speakers. Maybe too loud, even at minimum.
As said before, blink could have been better.
I'm not that much for looks on a phone, but sense is quite classy. And this aluminum body, really nice. But yeah, f#ckin slippery.
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Camera for me. Everything else works well for me. Oh and battery life is a little disappointing but I manage. But that camera though. In low light, it's frikin blows many other phones out (at least all my friends phones) but to us technology people, it's pretty bad. Hopefully the next one comes with like 8mp or more.
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First of all looks when my friends saw it everyone said it gots class much attraction
BoomSound and earphone sound both best in smartphones
Disappointment camera purple tint issue and 64 gb wasn't for india
Need 10% more brightness as i live in india more sunny place but satisfied
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Bipo said:
It's so slippery. I'm keeping a case on it mainly for this reason.
Love the front speakers. Maybe too loud, even at minimum.
As said before, blink could have been better.
I'm not that much for looks on a phone, but sense is quite classy. And this aluminum body, really nice. But yeah, f#ckin slippery.
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Haha it's very true. It's slippery as crap!!! I have to use this stupid otterbox for that reason.
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why cant i run IOS on this thing ? i hope this counts.
Tachi91 said:
Well when an Osprey is landing you kind of need to stay at a distance safety an all and you think hey look that's cool let me take a picture and it comes out horrible. It's advertised to have one of the best cameras on a phone yet a GS3 takes better distance pictures.
Not everything can be taken just a few feet away. Anyways moving along, other then that everything else is awesome.
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Then buy a real camera for wildlife photography?
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why cant i run IOS on this thing ? i hope this counts.
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If you want IOS then buy an iPhone.
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I'm coming from an S3 so why does everything about this phone feel so dated? Design wise this phone is huge and clunky, I don't know what they were thinking...it doesn't feel comfortable in the hand at all. The UI/firmware is weak too. My old S3 had a lot more options to make things easier and faster going through my phone. The Z1S's UI is too basic and boring. It doesn't have a menu button and it doesn't have an option to add apps onto your lockscreen.
The screen is also underwhelming...my brother's HTC One gives off a sharper image while the Z1S has washed out colors. The camera is also worse than I thought...especially since it was touted as being better than most...every picture I take has a grainy effect and doesn't come close to my brother's phone, it's a joke. There are a couple of things I do like about it...it has great signal strength and the battery does last a good while. Overall, it's just a dated experience...even more dated than my S3.
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I'm coming from an S3 so why does everything about this phone feel so dated? Design wise this phone is huge and clunky, I don't know what they were thinking...it doesn't feel comfortable in the hand at all. The UI/firmware is weak too. My old S3 had a lot more options to make things easier and faster going through my phone. The Z1S's UI is too basic and boring. It doesn't have a menu button and it doesn't have an option to add apps onto your lockscreen.
The screen is also underwhelming...my brother's HTC One gives off a sharper image while the Z1S has washed out colors. The camera is also worse than I thought...especially since it was touted as being better than most...every picture I take has a grainy effect and doesn't come close to my brother's phone, it's a joke. There are a couple of things I do like about it...it has great signal strength and the battery does last a good while. Overall, it's just a dated experience...even more dated than my S3.
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The display is way better than any other xperia in terms of viewing angles and colours.
Not as good as the one's one but still very good.
No comment about the ui bloatwiz isn't even comparable to the sony ui.
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wrong forum ? lol
Uncle Sammy fanbwoy?
[email protected] Z
Boohoohoo...
Honestly, you're the first person that I know that finds the Z1 "uglier" than the S3.
Like they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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chefnoob said:
Boohoohoo...
Honestly, you're the first person that I know that finds the Z1 "uglier" than the S3.
Like they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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The S3 is pretty ugly too and feels cheap while the Z1S feels like a well-built phone, and while I prefer the Z1S over the S3 in the looks department, it's still ugly so it doesn't matter.
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The S3 is pretty ugly too and feels cheap while the Z1S feels like a well-built phone, and while I prefer the Z1S over the S3 in the looks department, it's still ugly so it doesn't matter.
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Its amazing how a few mm added to the bezel can make or break a phone's feel, doesn't it?
Just look at the Z and Z1... Personally, I feel that the Z looks gorgeous... But when I held the Z1... It just feels...wrong in my hands.
Also, Sony is known for using top-end hardware on their phones but lacks the skill to optimize it properly... So I'm not really surprised about the poor camera performance.
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I hate the Galaxy phones, they look so cheap. Not to mention the bubbly shape makes it look like it's made for girls. Xperia Z ftw!
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I'm coming from an S3 so why does everything about this phone feel so dated? Design wise this phone is huge and clunky, I don't know what they were thinking...it doesn't feel comfortable in the hand at all. The UI/firmware is weak too. My old S3 had a lot more options to make things easier and faster going through my phone. The Z1S's UI is too basic and boring. It doesn't have a menu button and it doesn't have an option to add apps onto your lockscreen.
The screen is also underwhelming...my brother's HTC One gives off a sharper image while the Z1S has washed out colors. The camera is also worse than I thought...especially since it was touted as being better than most...every picture I take has a grainy effect and doesn't come close to my brother's phone, it's a joke. There are a couple of things I do like about it...it has great signal strength and the battery does last a good while. Overall, it's just a dated experience...even more dated than my S3.
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For me also, the z1's design is a failure. Too dam big. Edging towards phablet territory indeed!
As for the ui, if you like all Samsung 's bloated nonsense then that's your perogative.
The camera too was also a let down so I understand you angst.
The sad thing is Sony doesn't seem to have much better to offer at the start of this year so I guess we're stuck with design failures until September this year.
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After further use, my complaints still stand but I also would like to mention another thing that I LIKE about this phone. It's very powerful apparently. It maxed out the 3dmark benchmark test I just used and I'm quite impressed with the scores it has received.
EDIT: Just tried the higher benchmark like it suggested and it scored 16392 beating a bunch of tablets including the HDX7.
Are you referring to the Z1...or the Z1s?
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Are you referring to the Z1...or the Z1s?
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Both phones are exactly the same(apart from the 32gb internal storage...and I read somewhere that the Z1s' bootloader is not unlockable.
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Which of the two do you prefer and why? I'd like to hear especially from those who have used both phones. I've used the M8 and was quite impressed, but haven't used the S5 yet.
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M8 hands down. Yes I have used both. If you really care so much about the camera, buy a digital camera. Yes the S5 has a far better camera. If that isn't of concern m8 is the clear winner in my opinion. The galaxy phones feel like they are made by playskool. You just can't beat the premium feel of an HTC device. Not on the feel but just overall quality & craftsmanship. It's such an easy pick for me. Sure there are some things I would have changed but last years m7 & the m8 are amazing.
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M8 hands down. Yes I have used both. If you really care so much about the camera, buy a digital camera. Yes the S5 has a far better camera. If that isn't of concern m8 is the clear winner in my opinion. The galaxy phones feel like they are made by playskool. You just can't beat the premium feel of an HTC device. Not on the feel but just overall quality & craftsmanship. It's such an easy pick for me. Sure there are some things I would have changed but last years m7 & the m8 are amazing.
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Yeah I agree about the camera. Nice to hear from someone who's used both and can see through the camera.
Sammy for me.
Better specs, better camera, removable battery, water-resistance. If I were choosing phones based on looks, I'd be posting on MacRumors right now.
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Sammy for me.
Better specs, better camera, removable battery, water-resistance. If I were choosing phones based on looks, I'd be posting on MacRumors right now.
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The main thing luring me to the M8 is the superior UI, and ART. Also, if the S5 doesn't ship with ART compatibility I won't even consider it (display models don't have the option). M8 also survived an hour underwater in some video I watched. On specs, I find the small difference negligible.
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The main thing luring me to the M8 is the superior UI, and ART. Also, if the S5 doesn't ship with ART compatibility I won't even consider it (display models don't have the option). M8 also survived an hour underwater in some video I watched. On specs, I find the small difference negligible.
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Wasn't there an image that surfaced from Korea showing the S5 with ART compatibility?
Heres the link: http://www.sammobile.com/2014/03/20/samsung-galaxy-s5-supports-the-new-android-runtime-art/
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Wasn't there an image that surfaced from Korea showing the S5 with ART compatibility?
Heres the link: http://www.sammobile.com/2014/03/20/samsung-galaxy-s5-supports-the-new-android-runtime-art/
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Thanks! I guess they disabled it on display models. Now I may give some consideration to the S5
I was hoping Samsung made a premium build phone as some of the innovative software is good but unfortunately they went with same old cheap band aid look plastic finish. Terrible but love their marketing almost convinces you to buy the damn thing even though it's plastic.
Camera is the only thing which I prefer the s5 over m8. Every other dept it's m8 looks feel and Looks again. Design finish and sense love it.
I hear ya. Unfortunately, there aren't any S5 displays in my area so I can't give them a good comparison. I've heard people say it's WAY better than they expected though.
S5, no question about it. I'm not going to pick a device simply because it's made out of metal. That's a bonus, sure...but when it's completely lacking in every other aspect, the metal body doesn't make up for it.
Well if you plan on flashing a ROM, the build is about all that matters (and camera). I still thing Sense 6 is ahead of TouchWiz though.
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riz157 said:
I was hoping Samsung made a premium build phone as some of the innovative software is good but unfortunately they went with same old cheap band aid look plastic finish. Terrible but love their marketing almost convinces you to buy the damn thing even though it's plastic.
Camera is the only thing which I prefer the s5 over m8. Every other dept it's m8 looks feel and Looks again. Design finish and sense love it.
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If i used the phone without protection i would agree with you but since I usually just buy a ballistic case or something to protect against falls (I drop it quite often, otherwise I wouldn't buy a case) I would get the plastic finish feel anyways. S5 for me
What is HTC? lol :silly:
dandroid13 said:
What is HTC? lol :silly:
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Wait what ?
Not sure what you're asking, but HTC stands for High Tech Computers.
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Wait what ?
Not sure what you're asking, but HTC stands for High Tech Computers.
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lol, I was just trying an irony...
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lol, I was just trying an irony...
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Haha I gotcha XD
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Ok so I went to a local AT&T store and used the M8 and S5 one in each hand for about 20 minutes tonight, and this is what I noticed (in a pros-cons list of each). Note I am 6'3" with pretty large hands. I didn't test the cameras, as 1. I don't use smartphone cameras and 2. We all know the S5's is way better. This is more subjective stuff with build, feel, and UI.
S5 Advantages:
-SCREEN!! The AMOLED screen on the S5 was absolutely gorgeous. I put the setting on "professional photography" or something like that, and everything looked absolutely superb. The M8's screen was also nice, but I liked the color on the AMOLED display much better (especially the whites).
-The lock button on the right side was very natural and comfortable to press. Much more so than on the M8.
-White model felt nice in the hand (not an advantage, but notable)
-Haptic feedback. This is probably adjustable, but the S5's was shorter and not as "deep". The M8 shook a little much for me.
M8 Advantages:
-Length and on screen buttons. With the S5, I found myself having to reach my thumb down a little too far to reach the buttons. On the M8, the buttons were in a perfect spot and were very pleasant to use.
-Motion gestures. It was very nice and natural to unlock the phone by swiping up when the screen was off.
(I put this post in a couple of threads because it is relevant).
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Well if you plan on flashing a ROM, the build is about all that matters (and camera). I still thing Sense 6 is ahead of TouchWiz though.
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Not really -- The S5 has better specs in just about every single category compared to the M8.
-Weighs less
-Faster CPU
-Bigger/better display
-Better camera
-IP67 cert (Water/dust resistant)
-Better battery, which is also removable
-USB 3.0
The only thing that I feel the M8 has over the S5 is the metal body. Aside from that, I don't see the reason to pick a clearly inferior device. Of course, both are great devices, regardless. However, when compared, why would you go with the inferior device, especially if you planned to upgrade anyway?
Either way, to each their own. Everyone has different preferences
Everyone who is dissing on Samsung for the plastic really needs to try it out in person. I used to have an M7, so I know how amazing that and the M8 feel. But the S5 is nothing like the S3 or S4. It feels more like my Moto X than anything, minus the rubberized coating on the X. Very solid.
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Not really -- The S5 has better specs in just about every single category compared to the M8.
-Weighs less
-Faster CPU
-Bigger/better display
-Better camera
-IP67 cert (Water/dust resistant)
-Better battery, which is also removable
-USB 3.0
The only thing that I feel the M8 has over the S5 is the metal body. Aside from that, I don't see the reason to pick a clearly inferior device. Of course, both are great devices, regardless. However, when compared, why would you go with the inferior device, especially if you planned to upgrade anyway?
Either way, to each their own. Everyone has different preferences
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The CPU speed difference is so small it's most likely irrelevant in day to day use. Sense is less intensive, so they'll most likely run the same in day to day usage. Besides, I didn't notice a difference when I tried them. The other things are nice hardware bonuses, but the software and feel are more important to me. This is where I think HTC edges out Samsung (oh, and BoomSound). That, and I have no need for a better camera, IP67 (never get my phones wet/dusty), and USB 3.0 (I rarely hook up to the PC and if so only for flashing). So for my personal tastes, this leaves Samsung's hardware advantages at the battery (the M8's is also pretty killer though), screen, and weight. The M8's overall feel is just a little bit better for me. Not having to stretch so far for the buttons is big, and a skinnier body makes 1 handed use easier. To each their own, but for me the One just edges out the S5 (for now). There's still 4 days before my M8 ships, so I very well could change to the S5, but this is where I'm at right now.
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Figured I'd start a thread for every one keeping their phone since there's a few about selling them. Share your thoughts.
I love this dang thing!!
I originally bought it even tho my M10 wasn't paid off figuring how much better could it be? Well the 10 is in a drawer.
Lots of storage over my 10. I can now store my flac files on the internal instead of having to get an SD card.
Share your thoughts, keepers of the HTC market share.
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Figured I'd start a thread for every one keeping their phone since there's a few about selling them. Share your thoughts.
I love this dang thing!!
I originally bought it even tho my M10 wasn't paid off figuring how much better could it be? Well the 10 is in a drawer.
Lots of storage over my 10. I can now store my flac files on the internal instead of having to get an SD card.
Share your thoughts, keepers of the HTC market share.
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The same for me, I'm past my first year with the HTC 10 and still have til next May to pay it off lol. Although I still use my HTC 10 for when I am flashing or updating a ROM, I have to have a phone at all times for work. Have you rooted it yet?
This is a good phone but.. There's not much standing for it, good camera but slow in comparison to other phones, speakers are a bit better than on the s8 but they're not that special, display is good but not up there with the best and the minimum brightness is still bright for dark environments, edge sense is a gimmick, the water proofing on this phone isnt that good and ive seen people having problems with their phone due to water damage and basically i wouldn't trust to put this phone in water on purpose and i treat it as a non waterproof phone, the battery is pretty good but not that great for me, The bezels are big, there's no option to lower the brightness in camera app and no option to turn off capacitive key light, htc sense is ok but it has bloatware that you cant install and no useful features.. Nothing special aboit it and i guess the only thing good about it is that its close to stock android and the performance on it is great. Basically this is a good phone but the pixel xl 2 will have better camera, performance, battery, maybe speakers too, design and display, software and more support. Maybe also better waterproofing
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This is a good phone but.. There's not much standing for it, good camera but slow in comparison to other phones, speakers are a bit better than on the s8 but they're not that special, display is good but not up there with the best and the minimum brightness is still bright for dark environments, edge sense is a gimmick, the water proofing on this phone isnt that good and ive seen people having problems with their phone due to water damage and basically i wouldn't trust to put this phone in water on purpose and i treat it as a non waterproof phone, the battery is pretty good but not that great for me, The bezels are big, there's no option to lower the brightness in camera app and no option to turn off capacitive key light, htc sense is ok but it has bloatware that you cant install and no useful features.. Nothing special aboit it and i guess the only thing good about it is that its close to stock android and the performance on it is great. Basically this is a good phone but the pixel xl 2 will have better camera, performance, battery, maybe speakers too, design and display, software and more support. Maybe also better waterproofing
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you're the one who started the ufs2.1 thread right?
you're contributing really well to the purpose of the thread....
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you're the one who started the ufs2.1 thread right?
you're contributing really well to the purpose of the thread....
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Lol yeah i am xD
adi.97 said:
This is a good phone but.. There's not much standing for it, good camera but slow in comparison to other phones, speakers are a bit better than on the s8 but they're not that special, display is good but not up there with the best and the minimum brightness is still bright for dark environments, edge sense is a gimmick, the water proofing on this phone isnt that good and ive seen people having problems with their phone due to water damage and basically i wouldn't trust to put this phone in water on purpose and i treat it as a non waterproof phone, the battery is pretty good but not that great for me, The bezels are big, there's no option to lower the brightness in camera app and no option to turn off capacitive key light, htc sense is ok but it has bloatware that you cant install and no useful features.. Nothing special aboit it and i guess the only thing good about it is that its close to stock android and the performance on it is great. Basically this is a good phone but the pixel xl 2 will have better camera, performance, battery, maybe speakers too, design and display, software and more support. Maybe also better waterproofing
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Looks like you like to hang with other Samsung junkies and parrot everything they say. You all are so worried we might have a better phone that you always have to come here to snoop and see whats going on, taking notes for all the talking points against HTC. My capacitive keys lights are off. What is this bloat you speak of? HTC allows us to disable and hide any bloat if there is any. Bezels are not even noticeable when using this beauty and at least our fingerprint scanner is in the right spot and has been proven to be much more reliable. Edge Sense is by no means a gimmick, I think we are well past that talking point. Any reasonable person knows not to intentionally drown your phone, and if you do you are supposed to dry it first before using. HTC specifically states this. The battery has already shown to beat the competition. The mics beat all of the competition, 3d audio recording. There really isn't much to complain about this phone some people just can't stand that something might be better than their beloved, super almighty Samsung giant. It's like it's their mission to make sure no one wants to experience it. "LOOK AWAY! LOOK AWAY!" LMAO
adi.97 said:
This is a good phone but..
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LOOK AWAY I'M HIDEOUS!
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Frank Drebin IS HTC
LibertyMonger said:
[...] My capacitive keys lights are off. [...]
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Would you mind sharing how you managed to disable capacitive keys lights? Thanks!
Giocarro said:
Would you mind sharing how you managed to disable capacitive keys lights? Thanks!
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It's on the Viper ROM in buttons and gestures settings
That's the beauty of HTC, almost anything is possible. Quietly Brilliant!
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It's on the Viper ROM in buttons and gestures settings
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Well i know that you can disable them but you have to root your u11 first and i don't want to do that
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Well i know that you can disable them but you have to root your u11 first and i don't want to do that
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Yeah I didn't want to either with this beast. It really isn't needed but there are a few things that make it worth it and the main thing that always draws me back to HTC, the freedom of having an unlocked bootloader. Just a few minor things I enjoy like all black theme and apps that require root like the new edge sense plus. To say there isn't anything special about the U11 is just not true. There isn't much you can't do with it especially after the next update.
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This is a good phone but..
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Did u even read the title of the thread?
Reasons why I'm keeping
1. Solar Red looks AWESOME.
2. Smooth smooth smooth. No stutter unlike my previous s8+ exynos that stutters quite often after 2 weeks of use
3. Edge sense is not a gimmick. It's useful especially after using the edges sense plus app (waiting for the huge official update promised tho)
4. Camera is awesome. Id rather have one lens phone that excels in image quality than a dual camera phone that is only mediocre or even good
5. Battery life is good enough for me. Dual sim, all day mobile data 4g, 6+ screen on time, 20 hours of total standby time. What I did was disable all bloat especially news republic.
6. Did I say solar Red is AWESOME?
7. That speaker.. Really love watching videos on it, good enough for listening music when I don't have my bt speaker around. The included noise canceling earphone is also very very very good. Haven't been using many bundled earphones for previous phones. But this one is a keeper.
8. Never had any problems with waterproofing. Then again I will never believe in waterproofing on a phone since I had incidents with z1 compact, Z3 compact, s5.
9. Fingerprint sensor is EXCELLENT. I have greasy fingers which usually problematic when using fp sensors. Had problems with p10+, s8+, Pixel xl, xzp. 99% of the time it works with this phone.
10. The fact that overall this phone bests everything on the market. I don't have premonitions on phones that comes next. But as things stand this phone is the best bet.
Allesa said:
Did u even read the title of the thread?
Reasons why I'm keeping
1. Solar Red looks AWESOME.
2. Smooth smooth smooth. No stutter unlike my previous s8+ exynos that stutters quite often after 2 weeks of use
3. Edge sense is not a gimmick. It's useful especially after using the edges sense plus app (waiting for the huge official update promised tho)
4. Camera is awesome. Id rather have one lens phone that excels in image quality than a dual camera phone that is only mediocre or even good
5. Battery life is good enough for me. Dual sim, all day mobile data 4g, 6+ screen on time, 20 hours of total standby time. What I did was disable all bloat especially news republic.
6. Did I say solar Red is AWESOME?
7. That speaker.. Really love watching videos on it, good enough for listening music when I don't have my bt speaker around. The included noise canceling earphone is also very very very good. Haven't been using many bundled earphones for previous phones. But this one is a keeper.
8. Never had any problems with waterproofing. Then again I will never believe in waterproofing on a phone since I had incidents with z1 compact, Z3 compact, s5.
9. Fingerprint sensor is EXCELLENT. I have greasy fingers which usually problematic when using fp sensors. Had problems with p10+, s8+, Pixel xl, xzp. 99% of the time it works with this phone.
10. The fact that overall this phone bests everything on the market. I don't have premonitions on phones that comes next. But as things stand this phone is the best bet.
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He's a troll lol lol
I'm the captive lights are off on my. Phone not even rooted
Am I crazy to return my note 8 for a u11?
Allesa said:
Did u even read the title of the thread?
Reasons why I'm keeping
1. Solar Red looks AWESOME.
2. Smooth smooth smooth. No stutter unlike my previous s8+ exynos that stutters quite often after 2 weeks of use
3. Edge sense is not a gimmick. It's useful especially after using the edges sense plus app (waiting for the huge official update promised tho)
4. Camera is awesome. Id rather have one lens phone that excels in image quality than a dual camera phone that is only mediocre or even good
5. Battery life is good enough for me. Dual sim, all day mobile data 4g, 6+ screen on time, 20 hours of total standby time. What I did was disable all bloat especially news republic.
6. Did I say solar Red is AWESOME?
7. That speaker.. Really love watching videos on it, good enough for listening music when I don't have my bt speaker around. The included noise canceling earphone is also very very very good. Haven't been using many bundled earphones for previous phones. But this one is a keeper.
8. Never had any problems with waterproofing. Then again I will never believe in waterproofing on a phone since I had incidents with z1 compact, Z3 compact, s5.
9. Fingerprint sensor is EXCELLENT. I have greasy fingers which usually problematic when using fp sensors. Had problems with p10+, s8+, Pixel xl, xzp. 99% of the time it works with this phone.
10. The fact that overall this phone bests everything on the market. I don't have premonitions on phones that comes next. But as things stand this phone is the best bet.
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I'll sure drink to this list. The phone is a real pleasure to use and fiddle with.
I've been unlocked and rooted the phone, pretty much I'll stick with it for some periods. That's no perfect phone on Earth when you switched to others you'll find some other problems eventually.
What I don't like is the camera noise though the details is great but it got too much really and do need some more denoise. The size is a bit big for 5.5" too.
masri1987 said:
Am I crazy to return my note 8 for a u11?
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And what answer would you expect in the U11 forums? Of course not!
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And what answer would you expect in the U11 forums? Of course not!
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I guess the answer should be yes?
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I guess the answer should be yes?
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That's for you to decide, but here's my honest opinion. If i was supposed to use any Samsung phone, it would be the Note 8, and that's because of the 6gb of RAM, along with the refinements that are included in Samsun's 7.1 rom. The Note is DEFINITELY more fun that the U11, and that's coming from a diehard HTC lover.
However...I still don't feel that Samsung touches HTC when it comes to optimization and performance over time. I highly anticipate that the U11 will be pushing through the bits and bytes much more gracefully than the Note 1yr from now. Samsung ages horribly, and I'm talking from experience. My wife always gets the equivalent Samsung device when I get my new HTC...EVO vs Epic 4g, EVO LTE vs S3, M8 vs S5, S7 and S7 (got it with a BOGO...regrets....), and U11 vs S8. My phone always comes out on top for a longer period of time. So, I'm not simply blowing hot air when I say that HTC has much more consistent performance than Samsung.
Well, Samsungs are consistently inconsistent with performance...so my statement isn't completely accurate.