Currently on NE9, can I take the OTA and still root? - Verizon Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I just got my S5 and updated to NE9 with root. I just got another message saying there is an update available. My question is can I take that update and still root?? I'm assuming Id do it the same way just use the latest kernel to flash after I root.
Thanks!

mpetruzz said:
So I just got my S5 and updated to NE9 with root. I just got another message saying there is an update available. My question is can I take that update and still root?? I'm assuming Id do it the same way just use the latest kernel to flash after I root.
Thanks!
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That is correct. Use this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2879348
[GUIDE] [Updated] Safely Upgrade and Root (NI2) + VoLTE

Thanks, got it all updated and rooted!!

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how to update OTA rooted + twrp sprint.

I have galaxy s4 with stock room from sprint. I had rooted it and installed twrp custom recovery. I was trying to update the phone with OTA update but it rebooted to twrp and that is it. I tried looking for update/zip to install but nothing, update check says it was updated.
Did the update still install somehow?
If not, Where is it downloaded to update or recommend an update method?
I am also concerned about losing root. How can I avoid that in the future?
mmfxda said:
I have galaxy s4 with stock room from sprint. I had rooted it and installed twrp custom recovery. I was trying to update the phone with OTA update but it rebooted to twrp and that is it. I tried looking for update/zip to install but nothing, update check says it was updated.
Did the update still install somehow?
If not, Where is it downloaded to update or recommend an update method?
I am also concerned about losing root. How can I avoid that in the future?
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Hi,
You have your own forum.
Look HERE
malybru said:
Hi,
You have your own forum.
Look HERE
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Oh, I did not know. thanks.

How do I know which N** version of Android I am running?

It's just not clear when I look at all the about phone page.It does say 4.4.2.
pego99 said:
It's just not clear when I look at all the about phone page.It does say 4.4.2.
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Look at the "Build number".
Cat McGowan said:
Look at the "Build number".
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NCG so that's it.
Off-Topic Question
Cat McGowan said:
Look at the "Build number".
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Hi Cat,
Sorry, this will be off topic, but I noticed you have an s5 running the latest Android build (KTU84P.G900VVRU1ANI2) and are still rooted. So I'm assuming that the new OTA for this won't break root? (I'm on a Rooted Verizon S5, running 4.4.2, Build #KOT49H.G900VVRU1ANCG, Hardware Version G900V.05, Kernel Version 3.4.0, Rooted via Towelroot)
Is that true, or did you have to root somehow after upgrading to 4.4.4 in the latest build?
Thanks for your answer.
akoziol90 said:
Hi Cat,
Sorry, this will be off topic, but I noticed you have an s5 running the latest Android build (KTU84P.G900VVRU1ANI2) and are still rooted. So I'm assuming that the new OTA for this won't break root? (I'm on a Rooted Verizon S5, running 4.4.2, Build #KOT49H.G900VVRU1ANCG, Hardware Version G900V.05, Kernel Version 3.4.0, Rooted via Towelroot)
Is that true, or did you have to root somehow after upgrading to 4.4.4 in the latest build?
Thanks for your answer.
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Allowing the NI2 OTA update will cause you to lose root access. To regain root access after the OTA update, you need to (1) use ODIN to install the NCG kernel, (2) run TowelRoot to gain root access again, and (3) use ODIN to install the NI2 kernel. You can download the NCG and NI2 kernels using links in THIS POST. If you already had SuperSU installed before the OTA update, just run it and acknowledge the error message, and then reboot; SuperSU will fix itself. Otherwise, install SuperSU.
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Cat McGowan said:
Allowing the NI2 OTA update will cause you to lose root access. To regain root access after the OTA update, you need to (1) use ODIN to install the NCG kernel, (2) run TowelRoot to gain root access again, and (3) use ODIN to install the NI2 kernel. You can download the NCG and NI2 kernels using links in THIS POST. If you already had SuperSU installed before the OTA update, just run it and acknowledge the error message, and then reboot; SuperSU will fix itself. Otherwise, install SuperSU.
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Hi I'm new to this and I have a few questions before doing this. I am have the KTU84P.G900VVRU1ANI2 Build number and I have never rooted my phone before. Will this method still work even though I never previously rooted? Also what are the chances of me bricking my device?
After doing this procedure should I then freeze the OTA update service?

Root new out of the box NK2 updated galaxy s5?

I'm trying to help a family member root their new phone. The most up to date guide I've found here is for the previous update (NI2) and I haven't seen anything for the Verizon NK2 version. Is it still possible to root this version? If so do you know where I can find out how?
worf65 said:
I'm trying to help a family member root their new phone. The most up to date guide I've found here is for the previous update (NI2) and I haven't seen anything for the Verizon NK2 version. Is it still possible to root this version? If so do you know where I can find out how?
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It's the same thing, doesn't matter what the starting version is. You still have to downgrade to NGC
ldeveraux said:
It's the same thing, doesn't matter what the starting version is. You still have to downgrade to NGC
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So just downgrade the kernal to NCG, root, then update the kernal using Odin? Skipping the step about flashing the OTA since its already updated?
worf65 said:
So just downgrade the kernal to NCG, root, then update the kernal using Odin? Skipping the step about flashing the OTA since its already updated?
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No not at all. Just go read the thread it's sticked at the top, or at least it should be
worf65 said:
So just downgrade the kernal to NCG, root, then update the kernal using Odin? Skipping the step about flashing the OTA since its already updated?
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I believe that flashing the kernel would work but you would have to work your way through a lot of FC's. I normally flash a full tar but you having a brand new phone, this probably isn't necessary but it is what I normally do ( below is the tar file I use. It is a complete internal wipe to a like new phone on NGC). Root with towelroot, download SuperSU from play store, update the binaries and reboot. I would suggest safestrap. You would need to download from play store then install busybox first. Then install safestrap and install its recovery.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23610159112652178
Tulsadiver said:
I believe that flashing the kernel would work but you would have to work your way through a lot of FC's. I normally flash a full tar but you having a brand new phone, this probably isn't necessary but it is what I normally do ( below is the tar file I use. It is a complete internal wipe to a like new phone on NGC). Root with towelroot, download SuperSU from play store, update the binaries and reboot. I would suggest safestrap. You would need to download from play store then install busybox first. Then install safestrap and install its recovery.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23610159112652178
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I'm pretty familiar with how rooting the S5 works before updates as that is how I did mine (froze the updater and didn't have time to figure out how to safely update). What I am confused about is what I do when coming from a later software version, the guide is even called "Safely Upgrade and Root..." not how to downgrade and root, and the guide to update to lollipop seems to require already being rooted.
worf65 said:
I'm pretty familiar with how rooting the S5 works before updatesj as that is how I did mine (froze the updater and didn't have time to figure out how to safely update). What I am confused about is what I do when coming from a later software version, the guide is even called "Safely Upgrade and Root..." not how to downgrade and root, and the guide to update to lollipop seems to require already being rooted.
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I told you how to root, downgrade, root, then upgrade. Plus, you need to read down a little further. See notes #4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voc4-5-0-keeproot-t3068546
Tulsadiver said:
I told you how to root, downgrade, root, then upgrade. Plus, you need to read down a little further. See notes #4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voc4-5-0-keeproot-t3068546
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Ok, I had found that guide before getting this new phone for my phone but didn't look at it again since I remembered that it had to be rooted already and was assuming I had to root on an earlier version hence the confusion.
Its understandable why people without root don't read it or at least don't read on down.

S5 root with marshmallow

What's going to happen to my SM-G900I thats got root (running stock) when it receives the marshmallow update. Sorry for the simple question. Thanks
marshmallow update
Hey there! your root will probably be lost if you accept the OTA (over the air) marshmallow. My best advice to you is this:
1. DON'T accept the update. (caps lock for emphasis only). You, as the subscriber, can only accept the update. The carrier can't "force update' your phone without your permission.
2. wait until a dev "captures" the update and "injects" the root (if available) in the marshmallow stock rom.
3. as a rooted user myself, exercise your due patience and wait it out. don't *ask* for ETA from a dev -- it's mean. =)
I hope this helps. =)
You won't get OTA updates if you're rooted, you'll have to update manually then root again
sameog said:
Hey there! your root will probably be lost if you accept the OTA (over the air) marshmallow. My best advice to you is this:
1. DON'T accept the update. (caps lock for emphasis only). You, as the subscriber, can only accept the update. The carrier can't "force update' your phone without your permission.
2. wait until a dev "captures" the update and "injects" the root (if available) in the marshmallow stock rom.
3. as a rooted user myself, exercise your due patience and wait it out. don't *ask* for ETA from a dev -- it's mean. =)
I hope this helps. =)
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Okay thanks so pretty much wait until someone figures out how to root mm then update and root?
*Detection* said:
You won't get OTA updates if you're rooted, you'll have to update manually then root again
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So I will have to do a full unroot to get the update normally, and would manually updating just be flashing the stock mm rom?
devondale16 said:
So I will have to do a full unroot to get the update normally, and would manually updating just be flashing the stock mm rom?
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Full unroot doesn't seem to revert the device "Custom" status, which is what stops the OTA, to "Official" which is the status needed for OTA
The only way to return the device to Official is to flash a stock ROM with ODIN, that will unroot you and return the device to Official and OTA will work
And yes, Flashing manually is flashing a stock ROM with ODIN
*Detection* said:
Full unroot doesn't seem to revert the device "Custom" status, which is what stops the OTA, to "Official" which is the status needed for OTA
The only way to return the device to Official is to flash a stock ROM with ODIN, that will unroot you and return the device to Official and OTA will work
And yes, Flashing manually is flashing a stock ROM with ODIN
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Ohhh I understand now, thanks Durham. So I take it when I flash the new one with ODIN I will loose everything on my phone or can I do a dirty install and keep everything.
devondale16 said:
Ohhh I understand now, thanks Durham. So I take it when I flash the new one with ODIN I will loose everything on my phone or can I do a dirty install and keep everything.
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You only lose anything custom, like root or recovery, all your apps and files etc are safe
*Detection* said:
You only lose anything custom, like root or recovery, all your apps and files etc are safe
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Do you have a link for this if it's been made?
Sent from my SM-G900I using XDA-Developers mobile app
devondale16 said:
Do you have a link for this if it's been made?
Sent from my SM-G900I using XDA-Developers mobile app
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For what? Stock MM?
This one is modded for BTU United Kingdom for the G900F, been running it for a while now, great ROM
It will trip KNOX though if you haven't already
Code:
https://mega.nz/#!SMRlERrY!oeOX8W_4tbQbArTN-LzTKWJ1xi_8LLrN_ZoSg-Dzs1Q

Rooted S7 marshmallow to OTA Nougat update

I have a rooted Samsung Galaxy S7 on marshmallow PI3 and just got notification of an OTA update, which I assume is for Nougat. I thought I wouldn't get an OTA while rooted, but haven't attempted to download. Please confirm that I will need to un-root my device to get the update.
rtfelt said:
I have a rooted Samsung Galaxy S7 on marshmallow PI3 and just got notification of an OTA update, which I assume is for Nougat. I thought I wouldn't get an OTA while rooted, but haven't attempted to download. Please confirm that I will need to un-root my device to get the update.
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Even if the update does download, the update will most likely fail during the checking process. Your best bet is to flash Nougat with Odin, then re-root using the Nougat root kernel.
CVertigo1 said:
Even if the update does download, the update will most likely fail during the checking process. Your best bet is to flash Nougat with Odin, then re-root using the Nougat root kernel.
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There's not a problem flashing Nougat on a rooted phone?
rtfelt said:
There's not a problem flashing Nougat on a rooted phone?
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No, because the act of flashing through odin pretty much negates all that. You just have to root again and follow the guides to speed the system back up or go without root and choose an option like the debloat rom with near stock experience.

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