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[Q] @ Mods/Admin. Can we please only allow senior+ to post in Dev thread

Can the Admin please edit forum with restriction on which usergroups can post new topics in the dev threads, ie maybe Senior and above or people with over a certain amount of posts etc.
This would virtually stop all the questions/help etc going in the dev thread by the n00bs and also cut down on the work that mods have to do because im quite sure mods are sick of having to move 100's of topics a day in the forums (not just HD2).
Wouldn't the restriction make things much more clean and organised?
[edit] I Should have probably put this in the general forum lol (the irony)

I am a Global Moderator on our forum for FIAT automobiles (www.fiatisti.hr) and we have a restrictions for any people who not have 50 posts and do not right to write in some forums. This is a lower limit to create threads.
In this way we have a more lowest junk on forum. People doe`s not have to use search option on forum and think that is much easier way to ask some people to resolve our problem.

+1 good idea

Oh God please, this would be great. If people cant be bothered to read on their own here, I see no reason why anyone else should bother.

+2 that would be nice
TheATHEiST said:
Can the Admin please edit forum with restriction on which usergroups can post new topics in the dev threads, ie maybe Senior and above or people with over a certain amount of posts etc.
This would virtually stop all the questions/help etc going in the dev thread by the n00bs and also cut down on the work that mods have to do because im quite sure mods are sick of having to move 100's of topics a day in the forums (not just HD2).
Wouldn't the restriction make things much more clean and organised?
[edit] I Should have probably put this in the general forum lol (the irony)
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Sounds good to me, I hate having to read through useless post to get info on a new build.
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The problem with this is, people start spamming to reach the post count.
But +1 to the idea from me nonetheless.
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I do kind of see the point of this, but i became a senior member by posting in the dev forums.

sorry folks, im going against the grain on this one, simply because 'post counts' dont equal experience.
take jerryfan2000 for e.g.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865525
im sure if i remember right he was still a 'junior member' when he starting a thread about his app & he's still not a senior member, but look what he has given.
maybe an alternate solution would be some sort of pop up asking the user to confirm they are starting a thread to showcase some form of development.
then if they click yes, & continue to post cries for help then some form of restriction should be placed on them, like not being able to open a thread for 1 month.
just my 10p.

Nice example
kam333 said:
sorry folks, im going against the grain on this one, simply because 'post counts' dont equal experience.
take jerryfan2000 for e.g.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865525
im sure if i remember right he was still a 'junior member' when he starting a thread about his app & he's still not a senior member, but look what he has given.
maybe an alternate solution would be some sort of pop up asking the user to confirm they are starting a thread to showcase some form of development.
then if they click yes, & continue to post cries for help then some form of restriction should be placed on them, like not being able to open a thread for 1 month.
just my 10p.
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kam333 said:
sorry folks, im going against the grain on this one, simply because 'post counts' dont equal experience.
take jerryfan2000 for e.g.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865525
im sure if i remember right he was still a 'junior member' when he starting a thread about his app & he's still not a senior member, but look what he has given.
maybe an alternate solution would be some sort of pop up asking the user to confirm they are starting a thread to showcase some form of development.
then if they click yes, & continue to post cries for help then some form of restriction should be placed on them, like not being able to open a thread for 1 month.
just my 10p.
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Important and helpful threads like that can be moved. At least lesser clutter.
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we an make an option if a juniour member wants to open an important thread to pm a moderator with it's topic

hoss_n2 said:
we an make an option if a juniour member wants to open an important thread to pm a moderator with it's topic
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That actually wont work, that would if anything overload all the mods with posts or PMs asking for this and that.
I too agree about the useless posts to get post counts up, But not to cause any rift at all, but im going to go against this as well like kam333 about post counts or even being a senior member, and the reason is upper level people are just as guilty of doing this as well. The only difference is they have the ability to move their posts after they have it seen. If you take this post for example:
Moved: [REQUEST]FULL Desire HD TMOUS Nand Build-NOT Squashed or Stripped Down-I WILL PAY $$
Originally Posted By: dharvey4651
This was posted on the NAND Development forum, to get attention, and then was moved by the poster (obviously a mod) to the HD2 Android General Discussion form.
Personally do I feel thats right too? No, That to me is abusing your power as a mod.
If anything, maybe limit junior members to only be allowed to post in the general forum of each section? Like General for HD2 winmo, and General for HD2 Android, this way it limits all the places they can post to ask the same questions.

Guys im not saying that restricting it to senior and above will cut everything out, Only that it will cut allot of it out, probably 90%.
If you check dev forums on regular basis you will know that 90% of the off-topic posts that get put in there and end up getting moved are from new members.
Restricting new members to not been able to post here will help a great deal, sure some retarded senior members or maybe by simple error will post in dev but it will be a hell of allot less off-topic then it is now.

There will also be a lot of new members not able to post when it's really correct for them to do so. The only correct answer is to ignore badly posted stuff and let mods do their job.
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AngelDeath said:
That actually wont work, that would if anything overload all the mods with posts or PMs asking for this and that.
I too agree about the useless posts to get post counts up, But not to cause any rift at all, but im going to go against this as well like kam333 about post counts or even being a senior member, and the reason is upper level people are just as guilty of doing this as well. The only difference is they have the ability to move their posts after they have it seen. If you take this post for example:
Moved: [REQUEST]FULL Desire HD TMOUS Nand Build-NOT Squashed or Stripped Down-I WILL PAY $$
Originally Posted By: dharvey4651
This was posted on the NAND Development forum, to get attention, and then was moved by the poster (obviously a mod) to the HD2 Android General Discussion form.
Personally do I feel thats right too? No, That to me is abusing your power as a mod
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I 100% completely agree with this. Not only do i feel that it is an abuse of position, but that the topic itself would get any ordinary non menber in trouble. It is so close to being over the "line" it is an open abuse of the rules that everyone else has to abide by. How can it be against the rules for a dev / chef to say "pay me for xxx and i will make it for you" but NOT against the rules to say "i will pay someone to make xxx" ?
I would report the thread but somehow i doubt anything would happen.
But back to the topic in hand, some sort of limitation of posting rights *is* required but i dont think it should be based on post count (take Cedesmith for example - less than 300 posts but a very active and intelligent developer), perhaps the more elegant solution is a time based limitation? eg, you are unable to post in development threads until you have been a registerd user, and you profile is set to the current device for say, 2 weeks ?

i think that the time restriction is more viable than the post count restriction for the simple reason you aren't going to get noobs signing up just to post the question if they have to wait 2 weeks. Where as if u put a post count restriction they will just spam to reach the count required
Ricey

johncmolyneux said:
There will also be a lot of new members not able to post when it's really correct for them to do so. The only correct answer is to ignore badly posted stuff and let mods do their job.
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Did you read the topic properly, this topic is regarding the dev threads not general stuff. If they are a new member then they have no reason to post in those threads and if they are a dev then can ask a mod or admin to maybe move them into a "dev" usergroup and that way they can post.
The whole point is that we shouldnt need to ignore badly posted stuff, the dev section is simply for posting dev stuff not n00b questions.
ricey1986 said:
i think that the time restriction is more viable than the post count restriction for the simple reason you aren't going to get noobs signing up just to post the question if they have to wait 2 weeks. Where as if u put a post count restriction they will just spam to reach the count required
Ricey
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I think you are missing point slightly, Once a n00b tries posting in there and gets a message about not been allowed because its a dev forum, they are not going to purposely spam other forums just so they can post in there.
Its about restricting n00bs from accidentally posting in there because they didnt bother to read forum titles.
by the time somebody has a certain post count or has been registered member for a amount of time its less likely for them to post in a n00b question/topic in the dev thread.

I dont know, so I have to ask the question, Is there the ability to stop a noob from posting in the dev forum, but allow him to reply? One reason I ask this, is if the answer is no they wont be able to reply either, then the course of action is unjust, because if there is any bugs in a build they cant reply to the thread, if they can, then that might be an alternative, but here is another twist, as well all know post counts can go up very quickly, hence just replying "Thanks" or "I'm going to try this" counts too (Just used for examples).
But I think personally there should be another level now that I just thought of it, Like we have Senior member status, there should be a DEV status, and set the forum if possible that ONLY DEV's can post where others can reply, and if someone is a DEV they can easily PM a mod and the mod can change their status. Or if they want to contribute in the Dev forum like they made a kernel or rom, then that would constitue them to post in that forum.

You need to understand and look into vBulletin before you ask for changes to the forum. This is not going to happen.
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[Q] Why the new users cant able to reply the threads.

Why like this.

digitalsuni said:
Why like this.
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Because some new users just spam in the threads then. The purpose of it is so that new members get acquainted with the rules and don't spam.

sooooo new users should first spam other threads to be able to post at dev section

SpyderX said:
Because some new users just spam in the threads then. The purpose of it is so that new members get acquainted with the rules and don't spam.
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Trust me... it doesn't work as it should... the will to spam is unbeatable...

Indeed, Spam is invincible... BTW, i have 13 post and still unable to post in dev section :S

To prevent spam, floods, trolls and threads like these on dev's area. Call it "learning time".

to lessened posts like yours
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921591
You are posting to wrong thead..

so mean new user need spam on Q&A first... hehe

No. See what happened to a certain user. Spammed tanx........... everywhere, boom! BAN. Newcomers can make everyone's life easier by just not spamming and following rules. Spam anywhere, get an infraction. But dev forum is the most important forum, so to prevent devs ragequitting, a protection against newbies should be put in place. Life on xda is simple. Just follow rules and don't spam.
Quality > quantity

SpyderX said:
No. See what happened to a certain user. Spammed tanx........... everywhere, boom! BAN. Newcomers can make everyone's life easier by just not spamming and following rules. Spam anywhere, get an infraction. But dev forum is the most important forum, so to prevent devs ragequitting, a protection against newbies should be put in place. Life on xda is simple. Just follow rules and don't spam.
Quality > quantity
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city-gsm?.........

velnens123 said:
city-gsm?.........
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Well............... yeah. And don't forget vixkes. Rotflol.

New to posting but not new to the site.
I've been using the dev threads now for a few months. I have been playing around with SD ROMs for my HD2 and this site is unquestionably brilliant. One of the ROMS I found works great. Two things, 1. a senior member posted that he was getting the same problem I had which I solved and wanted to help him. and 2. USB tethering isn't working in this ROM. Just wanted to ask. But can't help 1 and can't post a question for 2 to these really great developers because I haven't been here long enough...I have zero intention of spamming and will look for solutions to the tethering problem. I just want to help. So what do I need to do to become a safe and sane XDA member without offending anyone or spamming just to get past the 10 post barrier?

Marshallsc said:
I've been using the dev threads now for a few months. I have been playing around with SD ROMs for my HD2 and this site is unquestionably brilliant. One of the ROMS I found works great. Two things, 1. a senior member posted that he was getting the same problem I had which I solved and wanted to help him. and 2. USB tethering isn't working in this ROM. Just wanted to ask. But can't help 1 and can't post a question for 2 to these really great developers because I haven't been here long enough...I have zero intention of spamming and will look for solutions to the tethering problem. I just want to help. So what do I need to do to become a safe and sane XDA member without offending anyone or spamming just to get past the 10 post barrier?
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Easy. Just try out stuff or offer your view on something but WITHOUT posting pointlessly. Have fun on XDA .

bridge the gap

I understand the need for a post count before we can post in the development section but there also needs to be a way to get the info and issues that we are having until we get our post count up, I have been a member for a year now and have 3 post I search , read and learn do we just pm the mod in that forum?
Maybe a guideline for us under 10 post people to use to contact whom need be

Or we could just poast a bunch of times in this thread so we're over the threshold. I shoulda kept using my old account.

Simple fix is to have 10 posts... anything else becomes moot after that point. If you contribute info to the forums, getting to 10 should not be a problem.
There are more than enough forum topics outside of the development sections that are looking for feedback from users about their experiences etc.

ardensky said:
Or we could just poast a bunch of times in this thread so we're over the threshold. I shoulda kept using my old account.
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yeah people post random garbage to get to 10 so they can post a question that gets covered time and time again vs just a simple search and/or reading to find the answer

I did just notice this at the top though: "Low quality posts will be deleted, especially when made simply to get to the 10 post threshold."
So much for my idea of spamming this thread.

ardensky said:
I did just notice this at the top though: "Low quality posts will be deleted, especially when made simply to get to the 10 post threshold."
So much for my idea of spamming this thread.
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Well I think that would be geared more towards the people that pop in a thread and post nothing but things like ... yeah....bump......me to......etc. not a conversation/question

[Discussion] CheckROM

Considering there is no support to anyone using CheckROM on XDA as the thread was closed. I have created this thread for people to list issues with the ROM or any themes, fixes or general ROM related problems.
I tried this once before a moment ago but it was closed by conantroutman because he is a really cool guy and obviously incredibly intelligent and knows exactly what has happened.
Originally Posted by uppon2
Under what rights did you close that thread? It was a general discussion thread for CheckROM.
General discussion means anything general. I believe you have no grounds to stand on closing that thread. Prove me wrong
First of all, this "general discussion" thread is nothing more than a thinly veiled excuse for you to rant about the fact that this particular ROM is not being updated as quickly as you would like and/or because the developers have decided to focus on a newer device over the SGSII. That is their decision, deal with it.
As for the problem with checkrom.com, that's a checkrom.com issue not an XDA-Developers issue. Take it up via the proper channels. (Hint, XDA is not the proper channel)
As I said before, if you have an issue with somebody, resolve it via PM. Due to the way you have chosen to word the OP this thread would only lead to you being flamed and we wouldn't want that now would we?.
This is a development forum, not a place for gossip and idle chit chat.
These are the grounds upon which I stand, consider yourself proven wrong.
I appreciate that you're a little miffed so here's a particularly adorable kitten to cheer you up. Have a nice day.
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You forgot to post this PM I also sent to you
Uppon2 = I don't need to contact anybody by PM by the way? Why would I need to do that. I am just laying out the truth in a general fashion. I think every man and his dog have sent them many PMs and requests for an explanation about their lies. Don't come along all high and mighty without reason dude.
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He never responded to either of my PMs even considering that is what to do first. Instead he posted it in the thread like a hero and gave me no chance to defend myself.
I was never trying to say anything else other than GadgetCheck and Leomar hyped up an unreleased ROM encouraged people to donate and took donations only to not actually do anything they said they were going to do. They have a donate button for a reason. To encourage further development (Which was already told was happening months ago) and to also give them a pat on their backs for what they have done already. I know for a fact many users donated solely on the fact there was going to be an ICS release as soon as jkay was ready and then again in June (Both times it never happened)
Now you can close this thread again, you can ban me, mute me and do anthing your powers provide. It is just solidifying my argument about CheckROM and proving that you're a macho moderator.
I am putting money on it that this thread will be closed. THERE IS NO REASON TO CLOSE IT. I'm not taking peoples money and running. Let the public speak.
I am not trying to get unbanned from checkrom.com I don't even care, my point was to strengthen my original argument of being mislead. And proved it I did
If you had actually read everything in my original thread you would have still closed it but you wouldn't have replied the way you did mate.

Sigh.....
I'll just let the relevant forum moderator deal with this as I'm clearly wasting my time here. A legitimate general discussion thread would have been fine. Your personal grievances however, are not something we care about.
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conantroutman said:
Sigh.....
I'll just let the relevant forum moderator deal with this as I'm clearly wasting my time here. A legitimate general discussion thread would have been fine. Your personal grievances however, are not something we care about.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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I see similar issues on Comodo so I know where you are coming from.
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conantroutman said:
Sigh.....
I'll just let the relevant forum moderator deal with this as I'm clearly wasting my time here. A legitimate general discussion thread would have been fine. Your personal grievances however, are not something we care about.
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Guy. This is nothing to do with me. I didn't donate to them because I thought I was getting a new release. But a lot of other users did. If you read all of my evidence you will see me explaining this very point. I will keep the flames down this time around. I have said all I need to say. Thread is open for business (NOT FLAMING) just business. People need somewhere to ask questions. I would have asked on Checkrom.com but I am apparently banned for my kind words on XDA so I can't do that now can I

Just for your information there have already been 2 ICS ROMs made for SGS 3 http://checkrom.com/threads/gt-i9300-xxlf6-4-0-4-checkrom-evohd™-v2.822/

He's a senior mod. He did the right thing by closing the previous thread. You're out of line with the way you've 'spoken' to him. Expect the forum mods to close this one soon & consider yourself lucky if you don't get an infraction.
XDA isn't a democracy. You don't have 'rights'.

Thread closed
One of the worst things you can do anywhere on the internet is post PMs. They're called Private for a reason. As you were told, XDA isn't the place for this discussion. Do not reopen the issue in open forum again. Doing so will be not cooperating with a moderator, and will result in an infraction against your account.

reinbeau said:
One of the worst things you can do anywhere on the internet is post PMs. They're called Private for a reason. As you were told, XDA isn't the place for this discussion. Do not reopen the issue in open forum again. Doing so will be not cooperating with a moderator, and will result in an infraction against your account.
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To be fair, that wasn't a PM, just a direct copy of the previous thread...
Not that it really makes any difference.

Oneplus 3t telegram group

Hi, I have created a group for oneplus 3t, please join using below link
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This is like the whatsapp one....why do we need this when we have xda? Why are you trying to take people away from xda?

DSA said:
This is like the whatsapp one....why do we need this when we have xda? Why are you trying to take people away from xda?
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No sorry no WhatsApp it's **** pls no:crying:
Because real-time conversation is practically impossible on forums and we appreciate noobs which the other forum members would otherwise refuse to help

No! I will never agree with you in this telegram matter, this is NOT fair to a forum that you freely subscribed to and abusing to its tolerance one does what crosses his head! If you want free chat/ talk / nonsense or even terrorism impressions just use whatever you want and Sent a private message to your fellow and don't involve any other forum to advertise your hobbies!
This is XDA-DEVELOPERS try to fully understand this, not a playground
How in the world one can keep track of the "helpful" thoughts on a stupid chat where the hoards posts everything they want?
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I've opened several q&a threads and I don't see much activity, where is your helpful ambitions? Why none of you comes and help there?
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I also vote against those groups. This is the forum. It cannot be real-time and needs not to be.
This real-time requirement is for those who desperately beg for help and technical assistance.
No, please. Don't do that.

anupritaisno1 said:
Because real-time conversation is practically impossible on forums
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what???
Please take a while to think and try a different point.

Any way this thread can just be closed. Nobody but the OP wants it here.

justibasa said:
Any way this thread can just be closed. Nobody but the OP wants it here.
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We'd better to keep this thread here. I would also put it as sticky so anyone will know that IM (groups) here are not welcome. THIS IS DEFINITELY A FORUM.

Unfortunately we can see developers doing this, I personally don't get the point of it...
One may call out someone in hangouts for some personal reason but advertising these chats like crazy sounds really childish
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xanthrax said:
Unfortunately we can see developers doing this, I personally don't get the point of it...
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One thing is a single developer to help a few guys beta testing her ROM/app over IM.
Another one is a whole group of users creating a parallel "IM thread".
But now I am thinking about, let's have that happen. The group will grow and be cluttered with all that social nonsensical stuff.
The group will collapse in a week or two with no devs being reachable there any more...