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As awesome as the note is what are your thoughts on what screen size you would like to see in the next note? I love big screens so I would go with 6" myself. Your thoughts?
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If the overall size and the weight will remain the same as of the present Note I sure wouldn't mind a 6 incher.

hagba said:
If the overall size and the weight will remain the same as of the present Note I sure wouldn't mind a 6 incher.
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Yea that would be awesome. I can't believe the note is this thin and light for it's screen size and batter. Samsung has really impressed me with the note . This is my first samsung phone and I'm in love
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6" sounds about right, as long as they can minimize dimension increases by using a smaller bezel. In bed at night when reading ebooks or browsing the web, I hold the phone between my thumb and middle finger, pinching from top to bottom (large hands), and can barely do it with the Note, so don't want any larger height. Also, the weight's about at the limit for tiring my fingers over extended reading periods.

I'd be inclined for it to go somewhat smaller at 5"
and also change the res to 1280x720, cutting 10% off the width.

Are you guys crazy? Here's the size of an 5,7". It's looks so much bigger than 5,3! :0

LordManhattan said:
Are you guys crazy? Here's the size of an 5,7". It's looks so much bigger than 5,3! :0
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Because thats uggly and gigant frames

Yeah, but look at the size of the screen.
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Huge bezels on that e-reader make a big difference, but on second thought holding my fingers up to my screen making it 6 inches loss pretty big. I think 5.5" is more reasonably possible without increasing outside dimensions too much.

Yeah, ANYTHING bigger than 5'' is too big and will not fit in the pockets, it's pointless.
The BIGGEST size phone I'd buy is 5.5'' as something larger will not fit in my pockets & is therefore useless to me.
I like a device similar to the Note which is a balance between a smart phone & a tablet both in one.
It MUST fit in my pocket. The Note just about fits so people that are happy with a 6'' device will find it difficult fitting it in MOST of their clothes!

I think the Note is physically about as big as you can get before crossing into the Tablet space.
The niche of the Note is pockatable phone tablet.
The line is very narrow.
The Note is probably pushing the limits already. I bet the largest demographic for the Note is men... Because we're comfortable with the size. Most women wont be.
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SonicTab said:
I'd be inclined for it to go somewhat smaller at 5"
and also change the res to 1280x720, cutting 10% off the width.
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+ 1 It fits in my pocket, but it's tight, and difficult to get out if I'm not standing up. Just a hair smaller would help, but still bigger than the nexus.

I would go 5.5 inches at the most. I am pretty happy with the screen size. I'd love a 5.5 inch version, the same physical size but with smaller Bezels, mated to a quad core CPU, LTE, NFC, and a 4000mah battery. Also, a notification light would rock.
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SonicTab said:
I'd be inclined for it to go somewhat smaller at 5"
and also change the res to 1280x720, cutting 10% off the width.
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I agree - if it was exact 720p it would be narrower - the LG Nitro HD is only 68 mm wide, barely wider than the Atrix 2.
Anything 70 mm wide or less would be much easier to handle one-handed. The 83 mm width of my Note is quite daunting. I love everything else about it, or I would switch to the Nitro HD. If SG II HD LTE would only come with S-Pen, it would be my dream device ATM.
So screen size of 4.5" to 5", with 1280x720, would be the sweet spot for me!

I am used to the HTC 4.3 phone for about 2 years and switching to Galaxy Note is not problematic for me at all. I love the beautiful screen and the size is also an upgrade and moving toward a small Tablet territory. I like to read and watch video and also surf the net. This size appear quite good for those. I would not mind having a slightly bigger screen up to 6 inches as long as it as thin and remain fairly portable.
This Galaxy Note is so good that it is a mini version of the Tablet. It serves my needs for the time being and remain portable and still function as a phone - 2 very big pluses for this device. I can skip getting a tablet now.

I like big screen & i think this is the biggest it should be for note. If too big, it will be pain in the ass to carry every way..haha..
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Opinion on the new Nexus 7 hardware design?

Looking at the best buy page and unboxing video that have leaked, it seems like it is a much more landscape-oriented device. The Nexus logo is meant to be read in landscape, and the speakers are placed to be left and right speakers in Landscape mode. Looks much better as a video viewing device. Both the front and rear facing cameras are on a corner, rather than centered, so it looks like regardless of orientation, won't be blocked by the users hands (as someone who hated when Skype went landscape-only on the original N7, a welcome change) and it seems to have a notification light, positioned not for landscape, but portrait - the mode you'll most likely use it in for social networking apps such as Facebook.
I loved my original N7 but not the hardware layout. Seemed pretty crappy. This new one seems to change that. Any opinions?

If this means the OS is going to become more landscape oriented that's cool I guess. Otherwise meh
Just from the looks of it, I was actually wondering if the back would be as secure as the v1 dimpled back

Doesn't wow me to warrant a upgrade..
But planning to get the next nexus for my old man, his phone is more than 4 years old..
Beamed from my Maguro.

I like it a lot. It's a clean and very understated device. The top/bottom bezels are a little large and I wish they'd embedded front-facing speakers into them, but I think it'll be fine in practice.

I still think its a portrait device....even with everything google did to make it landscape (demo'd in landscape, "nexus" in landscape)
the back is really nice...very grippy
its narrower by quite a bit which makes it easier to hole
top/bottom bezels are a little too big IMO, but i assume they are like that because of the speakers, LED, and camera...so I'm OK with that.
the device flies, the screen is fantastic, the speakers are better than previous gen, camera is meh. I'm just in awe with this thing right now. and build quality seems to have imporved greatly...its awesome looking/feeling.

Can you make Phone calls with the nexus 7 LTE?
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not with a stock phone dialer, but yes you can make phone calls.i love the new design, its way lighter, thinner, skinnier, sleeker. it is beautiful and feels great in the palm of my hands. the back feels great and sits nice in one hand or two. so glad i sold my old n7 last week awaiting the release of this one. worked out great

If you use tablet talk you can make calls
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top/bottom bezels are a little too big IMO, but i assume they are like that because of the speakers, LED, and camera...so I'm OK with that.
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Rirere said:
The top/bottom bezels are a little large and I wish they'd embedded front-facing speakers into them, but I think it'll be fine in practice.
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I agree the top/bottom bezels look large, but actually they are exactly the same size relative the screen that they were on original Nexus 7. The only difference on the new one is the side bezels are smaller, making the device narrower overall and having a higher aspect ratio. The screen size and height are identical to first one (actually like 1% bigger).

The111 said:
I agree the top/bottom bezels look large, but actually they are exactly the same size relative the screen that they were on original Nexus 7. The only difference on the new one is the side bezels are smaller, making the device narrower overall and having a higher aspect ratio. The screen size and height are identical to first one (actually like 1% bigger).
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I'm well aware-- it's not new news. But the thing is that as the device shrinks, previously "normal" components are easily capable of becoming "large". It's like saying that having the wheels from a real car on a toy model are the same size-- it doesn't preclude them from being "large." But it's definitely not enough of an issue to keep me from looking forward to my preorder coming in now.

The edge isn't quite flush on the screen, that bothered Me. It being more narrow sucks too, the buttons are more flush but harder to press. The back is nice and slick, they should have sent aluminum, the placement of front camera sucks! Screen is beautiful,

mrazndead said:
The edge isn't quite flush on the screen, that bothered Me. It being more narrow sucks too, the buttons are more flush but harder to press. The back is nice and slick, they should have sent aluminum, the placement of front camera sucks! Screen is beautiful,
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That would have increased the cost making it more expensive.

There are lot of subtle improvements over the older nexus that I'm really liking. The top one for me is that the width has slimmed down just enough for me to get a firm / non tiring grip of the on the short side. This makes for much easier one handed reading. Also like the lighter and thinner design. Dual speakers is much improved over the original where at times I could barely hear anything even with full volume. The only thing that is not so evident to me is the higher resolution screen. I really haven't found the right app to make the new screen shine. Of course everything is sharp due to the higher dpi.

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The top one for me is that the width has slimmed down just enough for me to get a firm / non tiring grip of the on the short side.
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I've never held or even seen a first gen Nexus 7, but I agree this one is just small enough to hold one handed. If I had smaller hands it might be a problem though. Still, it's perfect like this for me, and it's funny since so many people freaked out about the narrower side bezel being "ugly." Function > fashion. :laugh:

Nexus 6 10.1mm thickness?!?

Some people seem concerned the Nexus 6 has a 10.1mm thickness, yes it's 10.06mm at it's thickest point @ the top of the device The sides are 3.8mm and the bottom is slimmer (image 2).
So it's 3.8 to 10.06mm. This is good because it will help wield the device in one hand by having more surface area to grip since it has a natural curvature back.
Hopefully this clears it up for some potential buyers haha.
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That's the top of the phone, right? What's next to the headset jack?

bigf00t said:
That's the top of the phone, right? What's next to the headset jack?
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That's the SIM card tray I believe

bigf00t said:
That's the top of the phone, right? What's next to the headset jack?
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The nano-SIM tray

Having a G3, I can attest that curved back really does help for one-hand use.
Although, the Nexus 6 might be big to the point where any kind of one-hand use would be a real challenge.

Bjray said:
Some people seem concerned the Nexus 6 has a 10.1mm thickness, yes it's 10.1mm at it's thickest point. The sides are 3.8mm
So it's 3.8 to 10.1mm. This is good because it will help wield the device in one hand by having more surface area to grip since it has a natural curvature back.
Hopefully this clears it up for some potential buyers haha.
Source: http://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html
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Wait a min, this is not a n6 right? How can a hand grab the whole phone
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bradputt said:
Wait a min, this is not a n6 right? How can a hand grab the whole phone
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I believe it's the moto X 2014 which is also 10mm thick by the way.
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I really hate that size and in this case the thin size becomes a point of issue, do not most of us put a case on the thing anyway?
So if they had managed to make it 3.8 evenly, it would be back up there once the case was on it, so to me it doesn't matter.

I think 10.1mm thick still can acceptable.

I prefer it was 12 or 14mm thick, but 10mm is acceptable.
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Wait a min, this is not a n6 right? How can a hand grab the whole phone
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You hand can grab the whole Nexus 6. It's only as big as the iPhone 6 Plus. Not even as big as a Galaxy Mega.

eksasol said:
I prefer it was 12 or 14mm thick, but 10mm is acceptable.
You hand can grab the whole Nexus 6. It's only as big as the iPhone 6 Plus. Not even as big as a Galaxy Mega.
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It's actually slightly larger than the iPhone 6+. It's smaller than the Galaxy Mega and the Nokia 1520, though.

By the time Note 4 owners add a Qi charging back cover they will be holding a 10mm thick brick. Even worse are the ZeroLemon battery nazis that will be holding 1999 Nextel bricks. Also worse than a 10mm device that tapers off to the edges that already has Qi built in.

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You hand can grab the whole Nexus 6. It's only as big as the iPhone 6 Plus.
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No it's actually quite a bit wider than the iPhone 6+, which will effect how it feels to hold a lot. See: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Nexus-6,Apple-iPhone-6-Plus/phones/8626,8908
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Some people seem concerned the Nexus 6 has a 10.1mm thickness, yes it's 10.1mm at it's thickest point. The sides are 3.8mm
So it's 3.8 to 10.1mm. This is good because it will help wield the device in one hand by having more surface area to grip since it has a natural curvature back.
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You really should make it clear in your OP that the photo is of the Moto X (a much smaller phone) not the Nexus 6. It makes the phone appear much smaller in the person's hand than the Nexus 6 will be.
The tapered edges, I think, help with the hand feel of a smaller phone like the Moto X or OnePlus One. But on an enormous phone like the Nexus 6, it's not going to help you wrap your hands around the overall width of the phone. And as far as putting the phone in your pocket goes, it's the dimension at the thickest point that counts. The tapered edges won't help with that at all.

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No it's actually quite a bit wider than the iPhone 6+, which will effect how it feels to hold a lot. See: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Nexus-6,Apple-iPhone-6-Plus/phones/8626,8908
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You really should make it clear in your OP that the photo is of the Moto X (a much smaller phone) not the Nexus 6. It makes the phone appear much smaller in the person's hand than the Nexus 6 will be.
The tapered edges, I think, help with the hand feel of a smaller phone like the Moto X or OnePlus One. But on an enormous phone like the Nexus 6, it's not going to help you wrap your hands around the overall width of the phone. And as far as putting the phone in your pocket goes, it's the dimension at the thickest point that counts. The tapered edges won't help with that at all.
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It's just a reference showing the exact same degree of the the curve that the N6 also has. Didn't think anyone would mistake it for the N6.
And yes it could help with wielding the overall width of the device, pick up a Note 4 and it feels like a brick, add a slight curve to it and it'll fit more naturally in your hand (look at your fingers when holding one, they curve anyway).
Found some better pictures (it's an actual Nexus 6 this time! )
And BTW most devices are around 10mm also at some section, look at the Note 4's camera sticking out. The N6 is flush.

I don't mind the thickness, the height but I do mind the width.
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Bjray said:
And yes it could help with wielding the overall width of the device, pick up a Note 4 and it feels like a brick, add a slight curve to it and it'll fit more naturally in your hand.
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As I said, for something as extremely large as the Nexus 6, I just don't think the taper is going to make that much of a difference. In reviews of the 2nd Gen Moto X and OnePlus One, with tapered edges, reviewers are pretty clear that the taper helps, but is not as good as a device that is simply overall thinner. And those are smaller phones. It's a mistake to assume that tapers are equally effective in all cases. For the Nexus 6, it's just a super wide phone, compared to other phablets. It's going to be a lot to wrap your hand around, anyway you cut it.
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Found some better pictures (it's an actual Nexus 6 this time! )
And BTW most devices are around 10mm also at some section, look at the Note 4's camera sticking out. The N6 is flush.
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I don't think the Note 4 is a good phone to compare to the Nexus 6 for thinness. It's only 1.5 mm thinner. The iPhone 6+ is a better point of comparison. It's 3 mm thinner--making the Nexus 6 40% thicker.
Also people should keep in mind that the 3.8 mm dimension at the edge is only exactly at the edge. Even a couple mm before the edge, the phone is significantly thicker. In the photos you provide it's pretty easy to see that the taper is very slight until you get pretty close to the side of the Nexus 6. Actually, those photos make the taper on the Nexus 6 seem much less than on the 2nd Gen Moto X (but maybe it's just the photos).
What's more, none of this responds to my point that when the phone is in your pocket (if you can get it in there) the tapers aren't going to make any difference. In your pocket it's only the thickest point that's going to matter. So the already potentially marginal benefits of the taper, should not be overstated and overgeneralized.
As I've been saying in another thread, I just don't see the point in pretending the Nexus 6 is not a very large phone that is going to feel pretty beefy in the hand and be hard to get into any kind of pocket. It's a great phone. Many people like the size. But for those who are concerned about the size and who aren't into huge phones, they have reason to be concerned.
That aside, where did you find those photos?

cb474 said:
(1) I don't think the Note 4 is a good phone to compare to the Nexus 6 for thinness. It's only 1.5 mm thinner. The iPhone 6+ is a better point of comparison. It's 3 mm thinner--making the Nexus 6 40% thicker.
(2) What's more, none of this responds to my point that when the phone is in your pocket (if you can get it in there) the tapers aren't going to make any difference. In your pocket it's only the thickest point that's going to matter. So the already potentially marginal benefits of the taper, should not be overstated and overgeneralized.
(3) That aside, where did you find those photos?
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1: That's the only photo showing the top and bottom of the N6. Also why even compare it to a iPhone? We're talking about an Android enthusiast device after all. The Note 4 is the closest apples to apples comparison.
2: If you can pocket a Note device, you pocket a Nexus 6. Simple as that. Your not going to feel or see a 1.6mm difference....
3: The source is posted in the OP.
I understand where your coming from, but I think you've got tapered edges and fully curved backs confused.
Tapered edges = Just a taper on the edges of the body. The iPhone 6 and Note 4 have these, but not curved backs.
Curved back = The whole back cover is curved with the middle being thicker by design so your fingers rest / grip on it. The HTC One M8 is 9.4mm thick but it doesn't feel like it at all because it's curved back is creating an illusion.
There is quite a difference between the two. The only con (with fully curved) is a thicker device down the middle BUT it does feel like a smaller device because creating an illusion that it's smaller.

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1: That's the only photo showing the top and bottom of the N6. Also why even compare it to a iPhone? We're talking about an Android enthusiast device after all. The Note 4 is the closest apples to apples comparison.
2: If you can pocket a Note device, you pocket a Nexus 6. Simple as that. Your not going to feel or see a 1.6mm difference....
3: The source is posted in the OP.
I understand where your coming from, but I think you've got tapered edges and fully curved backs confused.
Tapered edges = Just a taper on the edges of the body. The iPhone 6 and Note 4 have these, but not curved backs.
Curved back = The whole back cover is curved with the middle being thicker by design so your fingers rest / grip on it. The HTC One M8 is 9.4mm thick but it doesn't feel like it at all because it's curved back is creating an illusion.
There is quite a difference between the two. The only con (with fully curved) is a thicker device down the middle BUT it does feel like a smaller device because creating an illusion that it's smaller.
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We're taking about hardware. It's irrelevant what OS the phone runs. The iPhone 6+ shows us what a thin large phablet can be like. Are you saying only Apple is capable of making a phone that thin? My point was that comparing the thickness of the Nexus 6 to the Note 4 to make it seem not so thick is not a good point of comparison, because the iPhone 6+ shows us how much thinner a phone of this size can be. A similar photo of the Nexus 6 and the iPhone 6+ stacked on top of each other would make the Nexus 6 seem like the beefy phone that it is.
I think a lot of people would question whether you can pocket a Note device. And it is absurd to say that if you can pocket a Note then you can pocket the Nexus 6. The Nexus 6 is half a centimeter wider than the Note 4, almost half a centimeter taller, and thicker. They are in no way equivalent in size. Look at the two phones in PhoneArena's size comparison tool: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...exus-6,Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4/phones/8626,8577 Any reasonable person looking at that can see that the Nexus 6 is a significantly larger phone than the Note 4.
When I said tapered edges, I meant it in the sense that you're using "curved back," so you're positing a difference that isn't one. The truth is almost all of the thinness of the Nexus 6 is very close to the edge. The curve of the back from the middle does make it much thinner for most of the back.
You're right that curved backs can make phones nice to hold, when they are a reasonable size like the 1st Gen Moto X, with a 4.7" screen. That phone was praised higly by most reviewers for how great it felt to hold. But the same reviewers all have found larger devices with similar designs, like the 2nd Gen Moto X and the OnePlus One, to not be nearly as nice to hold. They grant that the taper/curve mitigates some of the size of the phone, but do not say it magically makes it feel like a smaller phone. There's a difference between mitigating the effects of the size and simply being a smaller phone. And the 2nd Gen Moto X and OnePlus One are nowhere near as big as the Nexus 6. The taper/curve design simply has diminishing returns as the device gets bigger. At some point it's just wide and hard to get your hand around.
Would you assert that Nexus 7 tablet (more than twice as wide as the Nexus 6), if it had the same curved back design, would be fine to hold in one hand, because of the curve? Obviously that would be an absurd position to take. Overall deminsions matter. The Nexus 6 is not going to fit comfortably in most people's hands, unless your an NBA player. Get over it. It's a huge device. If you like that fine. But insisting that it will fit well in the hand (or pocket) is silly. It's going to be a challenge for the vast majority of people.

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We're taking about hardware. It's irrelevant what OS the phone runs. The iPhone 6+ shows us what a thin large phablet can be like. Are you saying only Apple is capable of making a phone that thin? My point was that comparing the thickness of the Nexus 6 to the Note 4 to make it seem not so thick is not a good point of comparison, because the iPhone 6+ shows us how much thinner a phone of this size can be. A similar photo of the Nexus 6 and the iPhone 6+ stacked on top of each other would make the Nexus 6 seem like the beefy phone that it is.
I think a lot of people would question whether you can pocket a Note device. And it is absurd to say that if you can pocket a Note then you can pocket the Nexus 6. The Nexus 6 is half a centimeter wider than the Note 4, almost half a centimeter taller, and thicker. They are in no way equivalent in size. Look at the two phones in PhoneArena's size comparison tool: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...exus-6,Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4/phones/8626,8577 Any reasonable person looking at that can see that the Nexus 6 is a significantly larger phone than the Note 4.
When I said tapered edges, I meant it in the sense that you're using "curved back," so you're positing a difference that isn't one. The truth is almost all of the thinness of the Nexus 6 is very close to the edge. The curve of the back from the middle does make it much thinner for most of the back.
You're right that curved backs can make phones nice to hold, when they are a reasonable size like the 1st Gen Moto X, with a 4.7" screen. That phone was praised higly by most reviewers for how great it felt to hold. But the same reviewers all have found larger devices with similar designs, like the 2nd Gen Moto X and the OnePlus One, to not be nearly as nice to hold. They grant that the taper/curve mitigates some of the size of the phone, but do not say it magically makes it feel like a smaller phone. There's a difference between mitigating the effects of the size and simply being a smaller phone. And the 2nd Gen Moto X and OnePlus One are nowhere near as big as the Nexus 6. The taper/curve design simply has diminishing returns as the device gets bigger. At some point it's just wide and hard to get your hand around.
Would you assert that Nexus 7 tablet (more than twice as wide as the Nexus 6), if it had the same curved back design, would be fine to hold in one hand, because of the curve? Obviously that would be an absurd position to take. Overall deminsions matter. The Nexus 6 is not going to fit comfortably in most people's hands, unless your an NBA player. Get over it. It's a huge device. If you like that fine. But insisting that it will fit well in the hand (or pocket) is silly. It's going to be a challenge for the vast majority of people.
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I was just saying sure we could compare it to an iPhone 6+ but is it really fair? Sure it will show how beefy the N6 is in the middle but can you really say the iP6+ and N6 have the same capability's regardless of the OS. That's why I'm saying it's kind of a useless comparison IMHO.
And we're talking about the thickness of the device are we not? You made it seem like the extra 1.6mm thickness alone would make a "absurd" footprint for a pocket.
Also I wasn't trying to get the point across that the N6 will feel smaller because of a curved back. Rather it would make it simply easier hold to which is better than nothing at all. (you don't think a curved back would make it worse, now do you?)
Also the OnePlus One doesn't really even have a curved back the LG G3 is much better (and reviewers say so) but the Moto X, One M8 and N6 are still at the extremes according to the degree of the the curve. Just something to think about when referencing that 5.5"+ devices with a curve is not as effective (which it isn't, but it also isn't useless).
And no the N7 with a truly curved back would not be a good idea, since your hands already have a hard time fully wrapping your hands around it. So tapered edges are the superior choice beyond that point.
And you seem to not have any experience with a Note or any phablet device for the matter. Therefor it's probably hard for you to comprehend that size in your pocket without experiencing it first hand. Heck, my mom (not a NBA player) has a Mega with an 6.3" screen and we can still hold the device OK and pocket it fine.
People have different width and overall phone footprint tolerances. What seems like it needs "NBA player-sized" hands to you, is easy and comfortable for a lot of users. Get over it.
Anyway, this is getting nowhere since we don't have the device yet. Not even reviews either. Let's just wait for those before passing judgment.

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I was just saying sure we could compare it to an iPhone 6+ but is it really fair? Sure it will show how beefy the N6 is in the middle but can you really say the iP6+ and N6 have the same capability's regardless of the OS. That's why I'm saying it's kind of a useless comparison IMHO.
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Again, we're talking about comparing physical designs and what is possible with them. The OS is irrelevant. By your logic, even your comparison between the Note 4 and the Nexus 6 is "useless" since one has a skinned version of Android and the other stock Android. It's not the same interface skin so how can we possibly compare the hardware? Your position makes no sense.
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And we're talking about the thickness of the device are we not? You made it seem like the extra 1.6mm thickness alone would make a "absurd" footprint for a pocket.
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The Nexus 6 is 40% thicker (3mm thicker) than the iPhone 6+. I was arguing that is a good way to get an idea of how beefy the Nexus 6 is. The Note 4 is 1.5 mm thinner than the Nexus 6 (I don't know where your 1.6 mm number comes from). I was simply arguing that if someone already finds the Note 4 not to be readily pocketable (as many people do) then the Nexus 6 is going to be worse, because it is thicker. I can't imagine how any reasonable person could argue otherwise.
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Also I wasn't trying to get the point across that the N6 will feel smaller because of a curved back. Rather it would make it simply easier hold to which is better than nothing at all.
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Yes, I understand you were saying the curved back makes it easier to hold. My point is: 1) A curved back makes a phone easier to hold than if it does not have a curved back. It does not making it easier to hold than a phone that is simply smaller. 2) There is a point at which a phone is so wide that it really is irrelevant whether the back is curved or not. Some things can't be mitigated by design. The Nexus 6 is huge. I think the curved back will not be nearly as beneficial as with smaller phones like the LG G3, let alone the even smaller 1st Gen Moto X. Many many reviewers have made this point. I find it to be true also in my experience with the phones.
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And no the N7 with a truly curved back would not be a good idea, since your hands already have a hard time fully wrapping your hands around it. So tapered edges are the superior choice beyond that point.
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Um, I brought up the N7 example only as an absurd example of how beyond a certain size you can't hold something comfortably in one hand, let alone even wrap a single had around the device, so the a curve in the back would not matter. I'm surprised you're taking the point literally. Maybe I should have used a current generation iMac (which have similar curved backs) as an example, perhaps then it would have been obvious that the curve of the back does not make the device easily held in the palm of one's hand.The point is that as the device gets larger, the curve of a back offers diminishing returns for holdling it in a single hand. I think the benefits with the Nexus 6 will be minimal, since they already don't help that nearly as muchy with the 2nd Gen Moto X and OnePlus One, as with the smaller 1st Gen Moto X.
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And you seem to not have any experience with a Note or any phablet device for the matter. Therefor it's probably hard for you to comprehend that size in your pocket without experiencing it first hand. Heck, my mom (not a NBA player) has a Mega with an 6.3" screen and we can still hold the device OK and pocket it fine.
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Your Mom must have big pockets, since most people find even the smaller Note devices not to be very pocketable. Anyway, I have experience with all of these phones. I was only pointing to the comments of reviewers to make it clear that few people with a lot of experience with phones share your opinion about the curved back on very large devices and the pocketability of a very large device like the Nexus 6.
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People have different width and overall phone footprint tolerances. What seems like it needs "NBA player-sized" hands to you, is easy and comfortable for a lot of users.
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Only 14% of the smartphone market worldwide is phablets. The vast majority of people do not like these large devices and find them cumbersome to use. Yes, there are many people that like them. I have acknowledged that all along. For those people, the Nexus 6 is a great device.
But your argument seems to be that anyone who doesn't like the size of the Nexus 6 is wrong and should like it, because you will dictate to them that the size is fine and there is no grounds for any objection. That's just ridiculous. My argument is that people have different prefences about size. Some people like phablets. More people don't like them. But there is no reason to pretend that the Nexus 6 is not huge and try to convince people who don't like phablets that the Nexus 6 is not that big. It's huge (and it's thick for such a big device) and that's the truth. People just have to decide whether they are okay with that or not.

Look what I got

Both the s6 and edge

Congratulations!! Why both ? I just want to buy one , but still don't know which one to buy
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I didn't buy them and I don't own them, I would go for the regular s6,the edge just doesn't feel good in the hand for me.

I don't have the opportunity to try both and choose one like you! Instead I gonna go to bestbuy store to check if they have on display...
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I didn't buy them and I don't own them, I would go for the regular s6,the edge just doesn't feel good in the hand for me.
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This seems to be a personal preference thing. Half the reviews think the Edge is nicer to hold and the other half don't like how sharp the sides are. Same with the M9 -- some reviewers like the extra grip from the lip but some felt it was uncomfortable and dug into their hands.

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I didn't buy them and I don't own them, I would go for the regular s6,the edge just doesn't feel good in the hand for me.
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For me it wasnt that bad to hold at all
What else apart from the feel in hand makes you prefer the standard s6? I only had 20 minutes or so but decided on the standard due to it having:
sharper clearer screen
undistorted video viewing and images just looked better
better tempered glass protector and case fitting chances
This after being dead set on buying the edge, tell us your thoughts

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For me it wasnt that bad to hold at all
What else apart from the feel in hand makes you prefer the standard s6? I only had 20 minutes or so but decided on the standard due to it having:
sharper clearer screen
undistorted video viewing and images just looked better
better tempered glass protector and case fitting chances
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The edge feels much to small, coming from a note 4 that might be expected of most phone but the edge felt a lot smaller then the s6. I also didn't like the fact that it's harder to see content on the edges cause it does wrap around, to me those "benefits" don't make up for the difference in price me, especially when I was all for the edge before I got to hold then both. Keep in mind though, that's just my opinion.

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The edge feels much to small, coming from a note 4 that might be expected of most phone but the edge felt a lot smaller then the s6. I also didn't like the fact that it's harder to see content on the edges cause it does wrap around, to me those "benefits" don't make up for the difference in price me, especially when I was all for the edge before I got to hold then both. Keep in mind though, that's just my opinion.
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It's like you're explaining exactly how I felt. Gimmicky and disappointed is what I was left feeling when I was ready to make love to it as I walked in. Before all this I was cursing the standard one for being boring and nothing special. I was wrong
I think Samsung will increase its use later. But I watch a lot of video and like that crisper flatter screen

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How big is the air gap of the display?

I always loved the laminated screens, yes even before apple sold it as innovation, and after seeing some videos it seems like the air gap of the Moto x style is pretty big. How visible is it in daily use if you are used to laminated screens for a long time?

Pretty sure it's laminated. If not, it must be a very small air gap because I don't notice much, if any, difference between how close the pixels are to the surface vs my wife's iPhone 6.

Thanks, that sounds good. I can see a gap though on most YouTube videos where the device is shown from different angles you can clearly see that the black edges of the screen disappear or get bigger depending on the angle. Which means there is a gap. But if it's not really noticeable on regular usage it would be fine for me. Still waiting for my ordered 64gb version in Germany. The delay is bad and makes me think about cancelling and getting an nexus 6p instead...

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Thanks, that sounds good. I can see a gap though on most YouTube videos where the device is shown from different angles you can clearly see that the black edges of the screen disappear or get bigger depending on the angle. Which means there is a gap. But if it's not really noticeable on regular usage it would be fine for me. Still waiting for my ordered 64gb version in Germany. The delay is bad and makes me think about cancelling and getting an nexus 6p instead...
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Hm. I haven't seen that, but maybe it's because I have the black front model. Possibly easier to notice on the white front model.

I have a white model and can't see any gap, regardless of viewing angle. If there is a gap, I can't see it.

It could also be from the rounded glass on the edge.

I had a GS6 before this and the gap is noticeably bigger on the Pure. It's not bad at all and you certainly habituate to it but it was noticeable.

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I had a GS6 before this and the gap is noticeably bigger on the Pure. It's not bad at all and you certainly habituate to it but it was noticeable.
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I also currently have an s6. The s6 has basically zero air gap and I hope the Moto x Display gap will not turn me off too much.

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
I also currently have an s6. The s6 has basically zero air gap and I hope the Moto x Display gap will not turn me off too much.
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Why are u moving from s6 to moto x if u don't mind me asking. For stock Android exp?
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Definitely want minimal gap for this phone as well. Makes the screen seem to float.

Doubt there is air gap. Hardly any phones have air gap these days. Usually relegated to the lowest end phones with cheapest components. The 'gap' might be due to the moto x ha ing gorilla glass 3 and not 4. GG3 is thicker than 4. They both have same strength, just GG4 is thinner. It has made nice difference almost touching the actual display. My Motorola atrix is a canyon compared to my recent phones in regards to air gap.

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Why are u moving from s6 to moto x if u don't mind me asking. For stock Android exp?
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Definitely want minimal gap for this phone as well. Makes the screen seem to float.
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The S6 is my first Samsung device which is not a Nexus. I was hoping that they learned from their past mistakes but I found following issues:
- battery life was good at first and now it's just plain bad. In the morning I unplug the device with 100 %. And it loses 20 percent in the way to the office with only a few minutes onscreen time.
- I don't give a ... that the s6 has great benchmarks. In real life this hardware beast stutters and is slower than my old N5. This may be different for games, but I dont play 3d games on smartphones. I think TW is still the culprit here. Basically Samsung is using high end specs and killing them off with their stupid overlay. Even though the UI is getting better, the Samsung add ons to Android seem to bog down the whole experience.
- I hate the fact that I hit the capacitive buttons all the time when holding the device in landscape. That doesn't happen with onscreen buttons since my hands can rest on the bezel.
- the fingerprint scanner is slow as hell. It's a joke compared to my iPhone 6.
These are the reasons I really look forward to get the Moto x. For me they tick all the right boxes.

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Doubt there is air gap. Hardly any phones have air gap these days. Usually relegated to the lowest end phones with cheapest components. The 'gap' might be due to the moto x ha ing gorilla glass 3 and not 4. GG3 is thicker than 4. They both have same strength, just GG4 is thinner. It has made nice difference almost touching the actual display. My Motorola atrix is a canyon compared to my recent phones in regards to air gap.
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Could also be the case. But the result is the same for the users eye. It looks like a gap, I can clearly see the black edges changing their size depending on the angle you look at the device. But as most say it's not a huge thing I hope I'll be OK with it.
I was one of the people really hating the ipad air because of the gap. Back then my colleagues said it doesn't matter. But one year later Apple introduced the laminated screen. And everybody was freaking out.

You guys are funny
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You guys are funny
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What's funny about this discussion?

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What's funny about this discussion?
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Mostly that you keep claiming there is an air gap when you haven't even seen the phone in person. I have the phone in my hand and I don't think there is one, thought the glass might be a tiny bit thicker than the Galaxy S6. By the way, I looked at my friend's white iPhone 6 Plus and the black border around the edge of the display also changes size when viewing it from different angles, so I don't think that indicates that the screen isn't laminated.

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Mostly that you keep claiming there is an air gap when you haven't even seen the phone in person. I have the phone in my hand and I don't think there is one, thought the glass might be a tiny bit thicker than the Galaxy S6. By the way, I looked at my friend's white iPhone 6 Plus and the black border around the edge of the display also changes size when viewing it from different angles, so I don't think that indicates that the screen isn't laminated.
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The thread is a question. So I'm not claiming anything just stating what I can see on HD videos. And one guy with a s6 confirmed my impression. So it might be the screen glass, it might be an air gap. It doesnt matter, if the result is the same visually.
I was just curious to know and some people seem to notice it, others don't. Well my Moto X is already under way and I will see it myself soon.
Honestly the more I see about the Nexus 6p the more I like it. I'll get a nexus 6p as work phone and the style is my private phone. Eager to see which one will wind up becoming my main phone.

Lol. How contorted does your head or phone need to be for you to see this "air gap"? I've had a long list of phones and have never noticed what is being described in this thread. I must have issues.
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PiousInquisitor said:
Lol. How contorted does your head or phone need to be for you to see this "air gap"? I've had a long list of phones and have never noticed what is being described in this thread. I must have issues.
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This kind of reactions remind me of the discussions I had when the first devices with pentile amoled screens arrived back then (nexus one). It looked like crap, but one of the inventors tried to convince everybody on xda that the human eye can't see the pentile matrix on a hvga resolution.
The point is: it's great if you don't see it. Be happy.

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
This kind of reactions remind me of the discussions I had when the first devices with pentile amoled screens arrived back then (nexus one). It looked like crap, but one of the inventors tried to convince everybody on xda that the human eye can't see the pentile matrix on a hvga resolution.
The point is: it's great if you don't see it. Be happy.
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The difference is with the air gap you have to view the screen from unnatural angles to see it.
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The difference is with the air gap you have to view the screen from unnatural angles to see it.
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No, that's not what it's about. With an air gap the image on the screen doesn't look like it's printed on the screen (which is more pleasant to the eye). And when you interact with the screen, a small or nonexistent air gap will have a better UX because it feels more immediate to touch an image which is as near to the screen/digitizer surface as possible.
The best example is the first ipad air. It felt totally awkward because the gap was huge. Much bigger than the previous ipads. Apple didn't make a big deal out of the laminated screen with no reason.