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New maps update?

Has anyone heard of this or downloaded it? Its apparently just for *bug fixes* I wonder if this fixes some of the map draining issues.
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There is no "battery drain" with the app itself. What you are seeing is the location services. It shows up as maps in the battery monitor.
The more location services you have activated, the more you will see battery usage.
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Yea I know that but even when I had maps and Google now active on my old Gnex my battery life wasn't hit anywhere near as bad as it is on the N4. I'm sure many can attest to that. That's why I was wondering.
Could it be more do to the os running on the N4 different than the nexus?
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Nocturnal86 said:
Yea I know that but even when I had maps and Google now active on my old Gnex my battery life wasn't hit anywhere near as bad as it is on the N4. I'm sure many can attest to that. That's why I was wondering.
Could it be more do to the os running on the N4 different than the nexus?
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It's the way the kernel is developed. When you touch the screen on stock kernel, it ramps up the frequency to 1000.
And some people saying that min freq is 1000 and max freq is 1500

I've haven't noticed much difference between the gnex and N4 with maps usage. I have noticed that turning off latitude and "report from this device" drastically lowers battery usage.
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It's the way the kernel is developed. When you touch the screen on stock kernel, it ramps up the frequency to 1000.
And some people saying that min freq is 1000 and max freq is 1500
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Oh really well if that's the case do you think that would he fixed in a software update? Cause I'm gonna stick to stock right now till more ROM development matures.
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El Daddy said:
I've haven't noticed much difference between the gnex and N4 with maps usage. I have noticed that turning off latitude and "report from this device" drastically lowers battery usage.
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Well that was the first thing I noticed when I was using it. The maps would drain and GPS would get stuck and still gets stuck on with certain apps. So I just turn off and force close maps now and my battery is much better. Not great but better.
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huge mediaserver/audioout_2 wakelock hogging battery life

Today i want to work and put the device in a drawer. never touched it during the whole shift but one phone call. during a five hour period 30% of the battery was wasted. bbs showed audioout_2 wakelock took place for 5 hours. screen time was 30 minutes. I haven't kept any screen shots from bbs but i did capture on system battery usage.
what could have caused it?
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I'm having the same issue here
, couldn't find the sollution yet..
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weird. ain't nobody here aware of this?
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op, perhaps a little enlightenment on your setup(rom/kernel) would yield helpful information from someone running similar setup
good luck
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op, perhaps a little enlightenment on your setup(rom/kernel) would yield helpful information from someone running similar setup
good luck
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STOCK EVERYTHING .
not even rooted or bootloader unlocked. An out of the box Nexus 4 16GB (301k),.

Perhaps there's a corrupted media file somewhere in the storage system.
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scream4cheese said:
Perhaps there's a corrupted media file somewhere in the storage system.
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I have no media files on my storage, all my music is via GOOGLE PLAY.
(the wakelock is not caused by google play because since I booted the phone I have not listened to any music)

There seems to be a fix for the problem, haven`t used it myself though. Link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050252. Its a init.d script at boot and you need root.

I wish to avoid rooting my device. when I bought the nexus I wanted to have a vanilla Google experience.
Also I don't wanna void my warranty.

michel9501 said:
I wish to avoid rooting my device. when I bought the nexus I wanted to have a vanilla Google experience.
Also I don't wanna void my warranty.
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Not rooting a Nexus is like forbidding the Pope to pray But to each his own.

Yeah I know, I think I'll root if i hear reports that rooted devices can receive official google updates

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Yeah I know, I think I'll root if i hear reports that rooted devices can receive official google updates
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Look here for flashing OTA`s when rooted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848.

and what of the audio out 2 wakelock? I'm still getting high wakelock times because of it
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I remember one time, I left a game without closing the game. 5 hours later my battery dipped and I tried to figure out why. I realized that the game was still running in the background and drained a good 30% of my battery because of the mediaserver. I know it was still actice cuz when I hit recent it picked up exactly where I left off with no lag jumping back into it.
I'm guessing the game isn't coded to freeze in the background when you leave it. I could be wrong, but this is one possibility I think.
I'm on PA, with the matrix kernel. The game is called PAD in case anyone wants more info. I say, just be sure to exit games or generally certain apps when you finish playing them.
This only happened once and since then never again since I started closing that particular app correctly. Also, I don't mess with any music volume booster mods. Just get some noise isolating earbuds/headphones. The volume booster mods definitely killed battery much quicker than it was worth with my first nexus 4

I close everything and still got 1.5h of AudioOut_2 and AudioOut_3 wakelock overnight . 20% battery drain overnight. normally my battery drains 5-6% overnight.

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Maybe there is a corrupt file on your phone, it doesn't have to be music, could also be a ringtone or a video.

considering you don't want to root I would consider factory reset then reinstall 1 app at a time until you find the culprit. I know it's time consuming but it's either that or keep your charger handy
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Audioout_2 wakelocks

Hello,
I really tried to find an answer to my question but I couldn't. There is a thread in the Galaxy S3 forum but as I have a N4 and suggestions in the said thread did not help I'm trying here again.
As BBS tells me, Audioout_2 is causing a lot of wakelocks on my N4. In 10 hours of use, it caused 704 wakelocks (more than 50 minutes). I guess it is a lot since the next on the BBS list is Kakao talk with 9 minutes (280 times). The sound was turned off the whole time (vibrate only). And I don't have Viber installed (some people supposed that Viber caused the Audioout_2 wakelocks). I also turned off Google tts which was supposed to cause the problem too.
Does anyone know what Audioout_2 is and how to decrease the number and time of wakelocks?
Thank you very much in advance.
Edit: Running latest PA on latest franco kernel + some grammar corrections

Really? Am I the only one having this problem with a N4.
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I've read in a thread that the problem could be the touch sounds, try to deactivate them (touch sound, screen lock sound and keytones) and see if it desappears! (Reboot the phone after disabling those sound, in order to be sure)
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TheUnreaL said:
I've read in a thread that the problem could be the touch sounds, try to deactivate them (touch sound, screen lock sound and keytones) and see if it desappears! (Reboot the phone after disabling those sound, in order to be sure)
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I have the same problem. I've disabled touchsounds etc. a long time ago, so that's not the problem.
Really don't know what to do about those wakelocks...

Janne79 said:
Really? Am I the only one having this problem with a N4.
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You'll need to wait longer than 3 hours before coming to that sort of conclusion.
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TheUnreaL said:
I've read in a thread that the problem could be the touch sounds, try to deactivate them (touch sound, screen lock sound and keytones) and see if it desappears! (Reboot the phone after disabling those sound, in order to be sure)
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Thank you for the answer but that's definitely not the problem as I never ever used touch-, screenlock- or keysounds.
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You'll need to wait longer than 3 hours before coming to that sort of conclusion.
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Sorry, you're right, seems a bit impatient by me. But, it was 3 hours and 6 minutes No seriously, I'm sorry.
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Audio_2, so descriptive...
I have had the same problem with this strange wakelock on my N4 with stock google + franco kernel.
I am not sure when exactly it started to appear, so lets find some commonalities:
Do you have Calendar Snooze ( cannot post links yet ) installed ?
Andrey
PS (installed CyanogenMod without franco kernel 6 hours ago, lets see if it will reappear)

andrey.tch said:
Do you have Calendar Snooze ( cannot post links yet ) installed ?
Andrey
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Nope. But latest "rumor" I heard is that the haptic feedback causes the wakelock too. Turning off sounds is not enough. So I'll try to turn off haptic feedback after next charging too (even though I will miss it)
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I'm pretty sure audioout_2 comes up when you are listening to music or watching a video. I've been listening to music on spotify and I get that wakelock normally.
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scream4cheese said:
I'm pretty sure audioout_2 comes up when you are listening to music or watching a video. I've been listening to music on spotify and I get that wakelock normally.
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I don't here any music on my phone. Maybe listening to music causes those wakelocks but there must be something else causing it too.
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Janne79 said:
Nope. But latest "rumor" I heard is that the haptic feedback causes the wakelock too. Turning off sounds is not enough. So I'll try to turn off haptic feedback after next charging too (even though I will miss it)
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I did not have haptic feedback, which pretty much rules it out for me. I did use music player though (3rd party, not internal one) over bluetooth. But somehow it was appearing when I did not listen to the music too, just drove and phone (wow... feels weird to call it like that) was connected to in-car bt audio

Seems to be haptic feedback. After I turned it off the wakelocks from Audioout_2 almost stayed the same (2 min in 2 hours)
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Janne79 said:
Seems to be haptic feedback. After I turned it off the wakelocks from Audioout_2 almost stayed the same (2 min in 2 hours)
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I am glad you have it solved for yourself. I will try to keep an eye on haptic thingy too.

Just a little update: Phone is unplugged for 3 hours now, haptic feedback off, wakelocks caused by Audioout_2 are down to 8 seconds (12 wakelocks). That's a huge improvement.
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Last update: 9hrs, 2 min with 63 wakelocks. I guess that's it, problem solved. I'm surprised how fast I got used to not using haptic feedback.
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Janne79 said:
Last update: 9hrs, 2 min with 63 wakelocks. I guess that's it, problem solved. I'm surprised how fast I got used to not using haptic feedback.
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I hate haptic feedback. it's annoying and a waste of power. Grrr.
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I love haptic feedback but it's a battery drainer indeed.
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Janne79 said:
I love haptic feedback but it's a battery drainer indeed.
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I'm glad you solved the problem. :thumbup:
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Strange I've been running all day (5hrs) with haptic on and I've only got 12 seconds (count 13) worth of wakelocks from audioout_2...
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rysup said:
Strange I've been running all day (5hrs) with haptic on and I've only got 12 seconds (count 13) worth of wakelocks from audioout_2...
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The whole Audioout_2 thing is strange. Some people solved the wakelock problem by uninstalling Viber, some by turning off system sounds only and in my case it obviously was the haptic feedback. I don't get it too but it solved my problem.
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Gs4 hot?

I just got a gs4 and am coming from the gs3. Does this phone run hot normally? Seemed warm on stock and hotter once I tried to install the freegs4 ROM. Even shut down twice.
Edit: flashed a different ROM and kernel and am all good.
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Yeah I noticed when flashing certain Roms and setting it up, it gets very hot that it shuts itself off.
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Always a kernel man not the rom
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bonebeatz1234 said:
Always a kernel man not the rom
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Not true on my part. I've flashed stock deodexed MF9 rom with Stock MF9, Agats, and Ktoonz kernel. All resulted in the phone heating up and shutting down on its own.
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daniel4653 said:
Not true on my part. I've flashed stock deodexed MF9 rom with Stock MF9, Agats, and Ktoonz kernel. All resulted in the phone heating up and shutting down on its own.
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You might want to take it to sprint in that case, only time it gets semi hot is when im using wifi hotspot and making a call at same time on my part
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So I have tried 4 different ROMs and 3 different kernels and the heat issue keeps happening. Right now I was using the latest Venum ROM and the ktoonz kernel and the phone shut off due to the heat. Stupid phone, I just got it on Sunday. Never had this issue on my epic or e4gt or gs3.
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dante32278 said:
So I have tried 4 different ROMs and 3 different kernels and the heat issue keeps happening. Right now I was using the latest Venum ROM and the ktoonz kernel and the phone shut off due to the heat. Stupid phone, I just got it on Sunday. Never had this issue on my epic or e4gt or gs3.
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are you overclocking or undervolting on ktoonz? when does it got hot? whats running in the background?

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are you overclocking or undervolting on ktoonz? when does it got hot? whats running in the background?
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The only kernel adjustments were to the governor and scheduler (using smartass and sio, no alterations to either). I just tried using the rescan media disabler apk to see if maybe my media was causing the phone to run hot. It seemed to be the only thing going in the background.
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The only kernel adjustments were to the governor and scheduler (using smartass and sio, no alterations to either). I just tried using the rescan media disabler apk to see if maybe my media was causing the phone to run hot. It seemed to be the only thing going in the background.
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is it heating up during usage,charging,sitting there......? have you actually physically looked at the battery to make sure its not cracked or swollen?

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is it heating up during usage,charging,sitting there......? have you actually physically looked at the battery to make sure its not cracked or swollen?
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Usually the heat starts when I am using the phone, which is usually browsing the internet or reading up on sports news. Screen off or charging I have been OK so far. As far as the battery, it appears to be in good physical condition. I also have 2 OEM batteries by Anker that experience the same issue. So far so good, though - been using the phone moderately since the last shut down earlier today and it seems ok at this moment.

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Usually the heat starts when I am using the phone, which is usually browsing the internet or reading up on sports news. Screen off or charging I have been OK so far. As far as the battery, it appears to be in good physical condition. I also have 2 OEM batteries by Anker that experience the same issue. So far so good, though - been using the phone moderately since the last shut down earlier today and it seems ok at this moment.
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if it heats up really bad again try underclocking a step and see if that helps.....phone might be getting hot because your chip is poorly coated and the higher frequiencies are heating it up enough to shut the device down. you may have to underclock by one or 2 steps to ensure its not a consistent issue.....worth a shot anyways. unless you do high graphic gaming and multitask with 8 apps at once your really dont need the higher clock speeds anyways.

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if it heats up really bad again try underclocking a step and see if that helps.....phone might be getting hot because your chip is poorly coated and the higher frequiencies are heating it up enough to shut the device down. you may have to underclock by one or 2 steps to ensure its not a consistent issue.....worth a shot anyways. unless you do high graphic gaming and multitask with 8 apps at once your really dont need the higher clock speeds anyways.
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Good idea, hopefully I won't need to! Appreciate the feedback.

If you just got this phone Friday then I would return to stock, run triangle away and exchange it. What you describe isn't normal, why take a chance and get stuck with a bad phone when you are within the exchange window.
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Try the stock kernel and rom and if it still get hot take it back. Try stock kernel it works man the others just cause me trouble.
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Thanks all. I loaded up the latest Sac ROM and ktoonz kernwl, but disabled media scanner. No more hot issues. I guess it running like crazy in the background caused the battery to commit suicide.
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Seriously guys, your S4 doesn't heat up at all???
I'm back to 100% stock everything (kernel, rom) and running this for a couple weeks. I've completed several factory resets and whatnot as well through those weeks. I know my install was clean as could be.
Now, my phone gets hot at seemingly random times. sometimes playing games, for sure while navigating with GPS and sometimes when its just sitting there. I monitor things with Better Battery Stats and keep an eye on the CPU Spy. I'm achieving deep sleep most often. Some of this is caused by the god awful Sprint service here and the constant search for signal, but I was hoping that this wouldn't get as hot as the S3.
so, should I seek a refurb from Sprint? I have the insurance. I am just afraid that a refurb would do me no better.
My biggest gripes are heating up occasionally, WiFi disconnect issues. I hope 4.3 can help some of these.

Help me with this wakelock

So I was just trying to check how good is my battery life with juice defender. And I found out this Wake lock, this is showing that my phone have never been sleeping, does anyone knows if this part from the juice defender or an android system Wake lock?
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Ambkor said:
So I was just trying to check how good is my battery life with juice defender. And I found out this Wake lock, this is showing that my phone have never been sleeping, does anyone knows if this part from the juice defender or an android system Wake lock?
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I think that's the radio, and it might just be there because it has to be. Might also be other apps causing the radio to be active constantly, though.
Although I don't actually know anything about this (besides that RIL stands for Radio Interface Layer), so I'm probably wrong.

I'm having the same issue, and still can't figure out what's causing it. If you figured it out please report back.
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I'm having the same issue, and still can't figure out what's causing it. If you figured it out please report back.
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I just moved to HD rom and my battery life have been awesome, so i havent check my battery stats but I willcheck them to see if it was juice defender or just google. :highfive:

So it looks like it was Google analytics the reason why the phone stay awake when is connected to wifi
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Ambkor said:
So it looks like it was Google analytics the reason why the phone stay awake when is connected to wifi
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Thanks for the followup

I have same similars your wakelock, I am running HD rom and I am getting lot wakelock on kernel side. Battery life still awesome solid and I don't know if it makes difference.
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I have same similars your wakelock, I am running HD rom and I am getting lot wakelock on kernel side. Battery life still awesome solid and I don't know if it makes difference.
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Thats really weird, have you modified the kernel at all? you should try to reinstall the rom fresh.

Nothing modified or tweaking at all, Just complete stock kernel coming from Hyperdrive ROM and I still getting excellent battery life. Weird
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Thats really weird, have you modified the kernel at all? you should try to reinstall the rom fresh.
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