I just got a gs4 and am coming from the gs3. Does this phone run hot normally? Seemed warm on stock and hotter once I tried to install the freegs4 ROM. Even shut down twice.
Edit: flashed a different ROM and kernel and am all good.
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Yeah I noticed when flashing certain Roms and setting it up, it gets very hot that it shuts itself off.
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Always a kernel man not the rom
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Always a kernel man not the rom
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Not true on my part. I've flashed stock deodexed MF9 rom with Stock MF9, Agats, and Ktoonz kernel. All resulted in the phone heating up and shutting down on its own.
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Not true on my part. I've flashed stock deodexed MF9 rom with Stock MF9, Agats, and Ktoonz kernel. All resulted in the phone heating up and shutting down on its own.
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You might want to take it to sprint in that case, only time it gets semi hot is when im using wifi hotspot and making a call at same time on my part
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So I have tried 4 different ROMs and 3 different kernels and the heat issue keeps happening. Right now I was using the latest Venum ROM and the ktoonz kernel and the phone shut off due to the heat. Stupid phone, I just got it on Sunday. Never had this issue on my epic or e4gt or gs3.
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So I have tried 4 different ROMs and 3 different kernels and the heat issue keeps happening. Right now I was using the latest Venum ROM and the ktoonz kernel and the phone shut off due to the heat. Stupid phone, I just got it on Sunday. Never had this issue on my epic or e4gt or gs3.
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are you overclocking or undervolting on ktoonz? when does it got hot? whats running in the background?
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are you overclocking or undervolting on ktoonz? when does it got hot? whats running in the background?
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The only kernel adjustments were to the governor and scheduler (using smartass and sio, no alterations to either). I just tried using the rescan media disabler apk to see if maybe my media was causing the phone to run hot. It seemed to be the only thing going in the background.
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The only kernel adjustments were to the governor and scheduler (using smartass and sio, no alterations to either). I just tried using the rescan media disabler apk to see if maybe my media was causing the phone to run hot. It seemed to be the only thing going in the background.
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is it heating up during usage,charging,sitting there......? have you actually physically looked at the battery to make sure its not cracked or swollen?
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is it heating up during usage,charging,sitting there......? have you actually physically looked at the battery to make sure its not cracked or swollen?
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Usually the heat starts when I am using the phone, which is usually browsing the internet or reading up on sports news. Screen off or charging I have been OK so far. As far as the battery, it appears to be in good physical condition. I also have 2 OEM batteries by Anker that experience the same issue. So far so good, though - been using the phone moderately since the last shut down earlier today and it seems ok at this moment.
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Usually the heat starts when I am using the phone, which is usually browsing the internet or reading up on sports news. Screen off or charging I have been OK so far. As far as the battery, it appears to be in good physical condition. I also have 2 OEM batteries by Anker that experience the same issue. So far so good, though - been using the phone moderately since the last shut down earlier today and it seems ok at this moment.
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if it heats up really bad again try underclocking a step and see if that helps.....phone might be getting hot because your chip is poorly coated and the higher frequiencies are heating it up enough to shut the device down. you may have to underclock by one or 2 steps to ensure its not a consistent issue.....worth a shot anyways. unless you do high graphic gaming and multitask with 8 apps at once your really dont need the higher clock speeds anyways.
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if it heats up really bad again try underclocking a step and see if that helps.....phone might be getting hot because your chip is poorly coated and the higher frequiencies are heating it up enough to shut the device down. you may have to underclock by one or 2 steps to ensure its not a consistent issue.....worth a shot anyways. unless you do high graphic gaming and multitask with 8 apps at once your really dont need the higher clock speeds anyways.
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Good idea, hopefully I won't need to! Appreciate the feedback.
If you just got this phone Friday then I would return to stock, run triangle away and exchange it. What you describe isn't normal, why take a chance and get stuck with a bad phone when you are within the exchange window.
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Try the stock kernel and rom and if it still get hot take it back. Try stock kernel it works man the others just cause me trouble.
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Thanks all. I loaded up the latest Sac ROM and ktoonz kernwl, but disabled media scanner. No more hot issues. I guess it running like crazy in the background caused the battery to commit suicide.
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Seriously guys, your S4 doesn't heat up at all???
I'm back to 100% stock everything (kernel, rom) and running this for a couple weeks. I've completed several factory resets and whatnot as well through those weeks. I know my install was clean as could be.
Now, my phone gets hot at seemingly random times. sometimes playing games, for sure while navigating with GPS and sometimes when its just sitting there. I monitor things with Better Battery Stats and keep an eye on the CPU Spy. I'm achieving deep sleep most often. Some of this is caused by the god awful Sprint service here and the constant search for signal, but I was hoping that this wouldn't get as hot as the S3.
so, should I seek a refurb from Sprint? I have the insurance. I am just afraid that a refurb would do me no better.
My biggest gripes are heating up occasionally, WiFi disconnect issues. I hope 4.3 can help some of these.
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Hello. First of all, this is my first post on these forums and if anything is wrong with my post please tell me.
OK. So I have a stock kernal, stock rom rooted Epic. After using it for a while the battery gets to around 100°f and it feels really hot. Nothing out of the ordianary is running (checked using spare parts) and about twice this month my phone has shut off due to overheating. If anyone has had similar issues or a fix, I would appreciate your comment.
Thanks.
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1st of all your post is fine. If a forum thrashed every 1st post, that forum wouldn't last long.
Do you have another battery to try?
Yes. I will test my spare out for today and check the temps.
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It might be the kernal....my phone never shut off cuz of overheating, but it did get hot a lot even if I want doing anything on it. That problem wentaway when I flashed different kernals. Try flashing the mixup kernal and see if it still persists? That was the first kernal I tried and it went away, but idk if it'd still have the same efect considering when I did it, there was a no-voodoo and voodoo kernal version
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I actually noticed decreasing my screen brightness keeps the battery heat 10+ degrees lower. It may not be true but I seem to notice touchwiz uses way more battery and makes it hotter. Keep posting fixes to the community!
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I also will not flash any kernal because I always get my updates the night of OTA and I don't want to deal with flashing.
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Same as my Epic get hot time to time when I charge it. Sometimes it charge just fine and fast. Sometimes it charge take longer than other and get real hot on the back of epic. It just hit 103 temp today. I do have extra battery and it act same problem. Is there some kind of firmware doesn't response to charging well? I was thinking going back to sprint and have them look at it.
Any ideas and suggestion?
Thanks in advance.
My peeve... kernel, people, kernel!
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Mmm when I plug in for charging, and if it get hot, I unplug and wait for 15 seconds, then plug again. After that, it doesn't get hot and charging much faster.
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I have all the stock stuff running and doing certain things (usually downloading will do it) makes it VERY hot to the touch. My Hero did this, but I had it running a custom ROM from almost day 1, so if you are worried that it is a custom ROM/Kernel doing this, mine definitely feels verrrry hot, although I haven't gotten the battery temp tester or anything, figure it shouldn't overheat since I rooted it but haven't changed anything else.
Just received Nexus 4 from US friends to here in India. I am getting constant reboots. They are very very frequent. Like once in every 10 minutes. Generally occurring when I make calls and into it 10 seconds. Seems like its hot reboot.
I received it in Android 4.2, which I immediately updated to 4.2.1, so I have no experience if it had the issue in 4.2.
I tried the following:
1) Factory Reset
2) Putting it back to Android 4.2
3) The latest nightly build of CM 10.1
The issue existed everywhere. I also have logcat constantly recorded before the reboots. Here is one of the instants:
http://pastebin.com/4JPW20xu
Any suggestions or advice? As of now I am planning to send it back to US for getting it replaced. But I want to try every possible solution in case it is a software issue..
Thanks in advance
Flash a custom kernel such as Franco. Kernel is what throttles your phone in temperatures etc.
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Lemme try that, though CM 10.1 build kernel had the same issues.
Tried franco kernel. Still the same issue is there.
CPU Spy is not showing more times at higher frequency. Is temperature throttle possible?
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Flash a custom kernel such as Franco. Kernel is what throttles your phone in temperatures etc.
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I doubt these are thermal reboots.. It is probably something wrong internally that is causing it. Bad eMMC maybe?
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I doubt these are thermal reboots.. It is probably something wrong internally that is causing it. Bad eMMC maybe?
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So good thing will be to get it replaced I guess..
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Hello so I bought my N4 on the Dec 3 batch and got it around Feb, the works fine and all but I have 2 main questions
1. The phone gets hot doing simple tasks like browsing the web or watching a youtube video. I am running the CM 10.1 Nightlies and Franco's Kernel r110. Sometimes the phone can get really hot which I then stop using it to prevent any damage. Does this have anything to do with the Custom ROM or kernel because my friend's N4 is stock and unrooted and hes doesn't have any heat issues.
2. The battery on the phone is not what I expected. I hear people who get 4-5 hours on screen time, but I get around 2-2.5. Also I am on a Canadian provider which is Mobilicity if that has anything to do with it. I leave 3G on mostly and just surf the web when the screen is on.
Thanks for any input you guys leave.
If you can take it back to stock and don't root because that is why your friend's N4 is normal besides what more do you want that the N4 doesn't have?
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I like the root features and also cm 10.1 if its the ROM that's making it overheat then I know to change or find a better one
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Hi,
As always "overheating" is very subjective, it depends on how you feel the heat.
CPU / battery temperature?
In any case there is a protection, a thermal throttling. At certain CPU / battery temperatures the CPU frequence is automatically lowered to help reduce the temperature. In extreme temperature the phone shutdown to avoid damages so no worries.
In 3G the phone heated a little more, no problem here that the phone heats up when you re browsing or you're watching a video on Youtube.
You can try to undervolt a little to see if that helps.
As for battery life it depends on too many factors... CPU settings, screen brightness, signal quality, etc...
Search about your questions in this section or in the General section, there are lots of threads about it.
What temperature does your phone actually get? When running stock it would be impossible to see my phone get other 43c and that was only under very heavy gaming but would usually be at 32-36c ive noticed my phone does get hotter when using mobile data instead of wifi. Now running rasbean with franco m1 and temps abit lower gaming has improved greatly but i dont think there is any difference in battery life compared to stock but your 2-2.5 screen time does seem abit low as i get with just web browsing maybe few youtube vids and few minutes of games around 4 hours screen time but i also envy those who are getting 5+ hours
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Forgot to mention thats 4 hours on wifi on mobile internet i should be able 2 get over 3 hours
The phone gets hot very easily in my opinion idk the exact temp but I have the ringke slim on it and its definitely noticeable from the top of the phone to the bottom. Also does my carrier have anything to do with it because brightness on my phone is pretty low and simple stuff tends to drain my battery.
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The phone gets hot very easily in my opinion idk the exact temp but I have the ringke slim on it and its definitely noticeable from the top of the phone to the bottom. Also does my carrier have anything to do with it because brightness on my phone is pretty low and simple stuff tends to drain my battery.
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When i was using a case on my phone it was getting hot from top to bottom but now i don't use case it doesn't get as hot and usually stays cooler at bottom half. I have found most accurate way to check your battery temp is by going on call and dialling *#*#4636#*#* and a hidden menu will come up and tap battery information you will see temp, there was an app that had same info but cant remember name so when you think its hot dial that code and let me know what temp it shows. Also are you using mobile internet or wifi when its getting hot?
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I think it usually gets hot when using 3G so I'm assuming mobilicity isn't that good for this phone? Also I can clearly tell its the top part that is hot when the case is on
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Yep mine also gets noticeably hotter on 3g and yeah it gets hot at the top but after a while will spread to bottom to thats normal. I am currently running rasbean rom with franco milestone 1 and also downloaded pimp my rom from play it has various tweaks and mods so i just flashed battery saving which supposed to help with battery not sure what it does though lol but i managed to get 3 hours 40 mins screen time half of time it was on minimum brightness and other half on 40% was just internet browsing and im sure you will agree that is very good considering i was using 3g the whole time
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Just an update you should try undervolting on franco as i have now done it and it definitely helps with heating and i am pretty sure it has vastly improved my battery life if your interested i will post the values i have used which seems to be perfectly stable so far
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Yes please, do I need any app for this or can I just do it in the settings?
do you have the franco app? As that was what i used to change my setting if yes just go on frequencies/voltages go down to voltages and change from there i have attached screenshot of my setting and make you do not set voltages on boot as if it is unstable your phone is not going to boot up if that is ticked, you will have to change that everytime you reboot until you are sure its stable then u can set on boot
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Do you have a bad signal? Because if so then that will drain your battery a lot more quickly and also possibly make the phone heat up more.
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Do you have a bad signal? Because if so then that will drain your battery a lot more quickly and also possibly make the phone heat up more.
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Does the overheating eventually kill my S4? I have CM 11 (Android 4.4.2) and the problem still persist. I can't update via OTA since its rooted. I also don't want to lose any apps because they are large apps and dont want to bother to download them again. So will it actually gonna kill my S4 someday?
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Does the overheating eventually kill my S4? I have CM 11 (Android 4.4.2) and the problem still persist. I can't update via OTA since its rooted. I also don't want to lose any apps because they are large apps and dont want to bother to download them again. So will it actually gonna kill my S4 someday?
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Or actually imma change the question. Does android 4.4.2 kitkat fix overheating issues? Will it actually gonna break my device soon?
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Or actually imma change the question. Does android 4.4.2 kitkat fix overheating issues? Will it actually gonna break my device soon?
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The Android 4.4.2 for S4 is leaked version. It is not published Officially by samsung and it may has many bugs. (eg. overheating, ...)
Overheating can eventually cause some serious problems. The board is able to adjust slightly with flexing caused by heat, but eventually soldered connections will give in and break if your device is getting extremely hot. When or what is causing it to get so hot?
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The Android 4.4.2 for S4 is leaked version. It is not published Officially by samsung and it may has many bugs. (eg. overheating, ...)
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Overheating can eventually cause some serious problems. The board is able to adjust slightly with flexing caused by heat, but eventually soldered connections will give in and break if your device is getting extremely hot. When or what is causing it to get so hot?
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@martikp When smsung officially publish it, do i have to reinstall CM so it fixes the overheating issue?
@megamanDJ It overheats when browsing, playing games. Does this eventually break the LCD screen ( not the gorilla glass 3 ) ?
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@martikp When smsung officially publish it, do i have to reinstall CM so it fixes the overheating issue?
@megamanDJ It overheats when browsing, playing games. Does this eventually break the LCD screen ( not the gorilla glass 3 ) ?
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No it won't break the HD Super Amoled screen.
Overheating will eventually cause logic board failures and shorten the batteries' life span
So if my phone is a little hot can this still happen?
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So if my phone is a little hot can this still happen?
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Not a little bit hot but perheps if it reaches 85 degrees+ all the time. But even in doing so it will still (from my experience) last longer that you'd ever keep this phone for.
Oh the is there any apps out there that tells you the temp if my phone. Something that is easy to set up?
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Oh the is there any apps out there that tells you the temp if my phone. Something that is easy to set up?
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They have quite a few apps out there for monitoring temps and whatnot. I personally use Android Tuner for everything I monitor. As a huge plus, this app is one of the most versatile apps (especially if rooted) I've come across and have had for a long time. Its good for adjusting or tuning down anything that may cause overheating as well as view summaries of the culprits
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Not a little bit hot but perheps if it reaches 85 degrees+ all the time. But even in doing so it will still (from my experience) last longer that you'd ever keep this phone for.
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I agree. You don't hear too often about someone's phone overheating to the point of failure. I've seen one phone that would get so hot you almost couldn't hold it in your hand, and had a habit of doing that but was ultimately broken months later by a shopping cart.:silly:
Still a decent monitoring app (among dozens on the market) can help you monitor temps and pinpoint when, where, and what is causing problems.
Thank you the app works. Is there anyway to drop the temperature as low as you can? Like 26 C? I disabled my Google account stuff and sync and removed the sim card because I use this phone as a gaming device. When I play a few rounds of subway surfers it already gets to medium warm and for 3D games it gets warmer more faster.
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Is 51 C - 56 C harm the device?
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Is 51 C - 56 C harm the device?
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I would say you are safe in that temp range. Its when you get 80 C and above that that's causing damage. Also are these temps from the battery or the CPU? The CPU can and will get to 60 C temps at times which is normal.
CPU I played the game six guns for almost an hour and it didn't go over 65 C and I think I totally screwed up my ext SDcard
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Thank you the app works. Is there anyway to drop the temperature as low as you can? Like 26 C? I disabled my Google account stuff and sync and removed the sim card because I use this phone as a gaming device. When I play a few rounds of subway surfers it already gets to medium warm and for 3D games it gets warmer more faster.
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If you are having heating problems while playing 3D games alone then you might want to try experimenting with using different GPU settings. You can try tuning down the frequency. It may or may not help with temp being its only a frequency setting. Try also using the app "Greenify" to put as many of the remaining apps that you don't absolutely need running into hibernation. Greenify is a lot more efficient when it comes to keeping apps from using resources.
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How to adjust the GPU frequency settings? Does this affect the quality of the game after its adjusted? But I do not think adjusting the GPU frequency settings will work. The overheating problem is caused by the CPU. May try Greenify app.
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How to adjust the GPU frequency settings? Does this affect the quality of the game after its adjusted? But I do not think adjusting the GPU frequency settings will work. The overheating problem is caused by the CPU. May try Greenify app.
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If your GPU is capable of adjusting the frequency then it will show you in the Android Tuner app next to the CPU settings, but you're right it wont help with overheating. You can set your CPU governor to "powersaver" and underclock by sliding the max frequency setting down one step at a time until you notice a difference in temp. Greenify is a huge help mainly with battery saving which in turn stops a lot of unnecessary CPU draw.
Does under clocking CPU will cause large 3S games crash? Hope it doesnt
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Bad idea. When I change it to power save it makes every sluggish and laggy even I turn one step down the CPU thing its sluggish
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Out of the blue, my S4 has started running hot (very warm to the touch) on occasion. Also, moving around screens, typing, etc. is extremely slow. Battery drain significant as well. The only thing that has changed is that TWC installed a new router & the phone now jumps back & forth between wireless & mobile. Ideas?
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Are u on custom software? Custom kernel? Try running just on mobile I've heard s4 doesn't agree with some routers
Stock ROM. Heard something similar but it used to do the same thing every so often with my old router. Weird.
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Stock ROM. Heard something similar but it used to do the same thing every so often with my old router. Weird.
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ya sounds very strange i havent ever had a problem with heat, i run goldeye with ael kernel and get 3-4 hours of screen time. also rarely use wifi as i have an unlimited data plan.
hopefuly its not a sign of hardware failure
I'm actually leaning towards hardware issues as the wireless problem is getting better. I'm due for a new phone anyway.
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