First off I want to say that I DID search and I hope I'm not double posting, if so, I apologize.
I recently bought a Nexus 7 for my wife and I, and she's pretty into one or two Facebook games here lately. (Marvel Avenger's Alliance and ZooTown.. or ville.. or something?)
The device is not rooted (yet) and is running standard OS. I downloaded and installed Firefox Beta and Flash, and she directed herself over to FB to test out her games.
They run nowhere near where we were expecting. I'd be lying if I didn't expect it to outclass my desktop, since it's 4 years old, and the game runs a bit sluggish on it, but my desktop runs it twice as fast as the tabet. =\
For a tablet that runs GTAIII on max, the idea that it's having trouble with a Flash game kinda upsets/confuses me.
I am willing to root and put a custom ROM on, I just haven't had time, I currently have a Samsung Epic 1 running CM9 (too lazy to upgrade).
So aside from a new ROM (or kernel, I've got a basic grasp on what THAT does but not 100%) is there something or do/install, perhaps a browser that runs it better? or something along those lines?
Thank you!
PS If I am looking at a ROM/kernel change, any suggestions? I see there's a CM port here, seems good, and I've been using various editions of CM consistently for 2 years now, just making sure I'm not getting comfortable with something when there's better out there
I hate to be a moaner, and don't get me wrong what you devs do is awesome, but I really can't seem to grasp why everyone puts so much focus towards making sure their s4 has the latest version of android on their phone, even though, it's not really anywhere near stable enough for convenient every day use yet...
You'd think people would be more on the lookout for roms that are fully stable and fully harness their phone's potential instead of constantly flashing builds that could ruin their afternoon suddenly because something broke unexpectedly that they're used to having work perfectly?
I get that there needs to be development and testing, and it's all great work that's being done, but seriously, is there only this little number of stable S4 builds?
I don't care what anybody says, I haven't tried an LP rom yet that's been 100% stable, something always breaks and leaves me rolling back to KK just to have more peace of mind
rynoism said:
I hate to be a moaner, and don't get me wrong what you devs do is awesome, but I really can't seem to grasp why everyone puts so much focus towards making sure their s4 has the latest version of android on their phone, even though, it's not really anywhere near stable enough for convenient every day use yet...
You'd think people would be more on the lookout for roms that are fully stable and fully harness their phone's potential instead of constantly flashing builds that could ruin their afternoon suddenly because something broke unexpectedly that they're used to having work perfectly?
I get that there needs to be development and testing, and it's all great work that's being done, but seriously, is there only this little number of stable S4 builds?
I don't care what anybody says, I haven't tried an LP rom yet that's been 100% stable, something always breaks and leaves me rolling back to KK just to have more peace of mind
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This things differ from user to user and phone to phone.
A rom might work 100% stable for me and might be very unstable for you. Happens all the time. I see users, running the same rom as me, who have issues that I don't have. Or vice-versa.
And I don't think "Stable" means necessarily bug free. I think it means more in the direction that it won't crash and won't give you random reboots, and that most of the stuff works (only minor problems).
People upgrade due to the performance improvements, battery life improvement potential and, possibly, because of new features and additions the rom and/or kernel has. And some people simply like to have the latest software.
If you have problems, you just go back to the previous version using the backup you (hopefully) made before flashing and wait for a fix.
So far I have run these roms: 5.0.1 GPE, CM12 Optimzed builds, SaberMod CM12 Builds, SaberMod CM12.1 builds and now Resurrection Remix, and haven't had any serious issues or issues that couldn't be fixed.
The only serious problem I ever had was with an early build of SaberMod CM12.1 where the sms app I was using (hello sms) kept crashing when receiving a message. This caused the notification to not show, meaning I could only see that I received a text message when I opened the app.
The most stable and bug free (for me at least) was Danvdh's 5.0.1 GPE rom.
rynoism said:
I hate to be a moaner, and don't get me wrong what you devs do is awesome, but I really can't seem to grasp why everyone puts so much focus towards making sure their s4 has the latest version of android on their phone, even though, it's not really anywhere near stable enough for convenient every day use yet...
You'd think people would be more on the lookout for roms that are fully stable and fully harness their phone's potential instead of constantly flashing builds that could ruin their afternoon suddenly because something broke unexpectedly that they're used to having work perfectly?
I get that there needs to be development and testing, and it's all great work that's being done, but seriously, is there only this little number of stable S4 builds?
I don't care what anybody says, I haven't tried an LP rom yet that's been 100% stable, something always breaks and leaves me rolling back to KK just to have more peace of mind
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It's because you assume everyone wants a bugfree rom. Some people just want cutting edge technology. Also if something is a bug for you, it doesn't mean that someone else is annoyed by it.
And I have to disagree with you. There are plenty of roms that are stable running Lollipop. Look for example at the CM 12.1. It's ready for daily use and rock solid. Sure there are some minor bugs, but nothing that annoys me.
Bottom line: It comes down to personal preference.
For users-
Hello everyone. xperia sp is old device with old functionality.
ram management is bad, shows 300 ram used while other phone with 1 gb ram dont have this issues.
touch issues and many other you people knows well.
there are a lot developers for xperia sp but which rom should i need to flash is a big question for me still now .
i am an old user of this phone.
this thread is a discussion thread welcomes all users share there experience or tweaks which they think should help each other.
please be friendly and help each other. this is only way to survive with this phone.
For Developers-
Hello Developers. we all love your work and this thread if you all take positively is for helipng the new users to not getting lost here.
i hope all will support.
please remember one thing before posting.
discussion is more about stability & features.
Hi
Please try all the ROMs, and eventually you will find the one that sorts out best for you. Mileage is vary for every person, and the "stability" is kind of a subjective placebo now, since the ROMs have been really mature thanks to the contributions of the developers in this marvellous forum. Basically what I am trying to say is that, it is now dependant on the user on how it feels about the particular ROM he/she is running..
I am a user of this device since December 2013.. It has been a really long journey, and I managed settle on a comforting setup.
This thread shouldn't be created under the Development subforum, but the General subforum instead.
Here, look at what i have in the attachments
Please avoid spamming in the development section :/
Hey there!,
There's always a lot of talk about the 'best ROM' and which one that is, and I get that question a lot via pm, meaning you're not alone on this one but I have a simple answer to that:
There's no such thing called the best ROM. Each ROM has different customization features, optimizations, etc. And the thing is, some people like customization and some like a stock feel. Also a few devices respond differently to different ROMs as well (strangely), some are fast and some are slow and horrible. If there was a 'best ROM', then other ROMs wouldn't exist.
In conclusion, if you want the best ROM, you're going to have to try a bunch of them and see which tailors to your needs the most.
Cheers
NOTE: You might want to contact a moderator and take down this thread or move it to General before Devs come running with pitchforks!
i won't repeat any talk from above because it's clear
no offense @Sam spancer but i reported this thread to moderator to move it to the general section
thanks for ur understanding
edit: thanks for the mod it has been moved (now it's in the right place)
Android Dev place is ze best place for things that are irrelevant. I'm probably going down along with this post because I can't do much these days
You know what the best rom is: multirom, so you can have them all!!
Arno is very correct!
Dear sp users this thread is for help. We should share what we experiencing with the rom.we have so for a person who is new here or want.to install a rom for daily use can have an idea about what to flash now. Thread will have rating feature also later.
Instead of critisizing or telling anything irrelevant does not help to any one.in any manner.
Guys instead of pasting that long messege is you would have said which rom.you.using and.how.satisfied.you are with that. Shared a little experience with other roms whould have helpd yet to a person who is about to.flash some thing.
If we do like this everyone.will be benifitted.
I stumbled upon this thread and it reminded me....that I'm yet to find "the perfect rom" for my xperia sp. I have this phone since April 8th, 2014. It's not the perfect phone, but I still love it as much as I did in day 1, plus it covers all my needs the way I want, so it's my daily driver, and it'll keep being so for a long time. Anyways, I've tried a.i.c.p. 10 (July 18th, 2015 being the best build of those I've used), which was fantastic. The multitasking is exceptional, the ram management is great (I'd say almost on par with the stock 4.1.2 - around 400+ mb of free ram), it was stupidly fast, super stable and also it had great built-in customization (imagine something like a built-in xposed framework or dirty unicorns' "dirty tweaks"). I was using this rom for around 3 months and was very pleased.
After around 3 months, I realised I miss the led bar's functionality level the stock firmwares offer (like, while making a call, if the display is on, the 3 leds will illuminate according to the theme color accent, also when recieving a call and the phone rings the leds illuminate again, etc.), so I reverted back to the stock 4.3, where I had begun with. However, after some time of using it, the stock 4.3 seemed somewhat....sluggish. I'd rooted it, removed all of the bloatware and was running a custom kernel (williams to be exact), so I was looking for a replacement. Having in mind that I didn't want to lose the functionality level of the led bar of the stock firmwares, so I looked for something based on that.
After a long time searching and trying out, I flashed the "original pure stock v3" rom, which is essentialy a quite trimmed-down version of the stock 4.3. I also made a Hatsune Miku theme as I admired (and I still do) the Japan-exclusive "xperia feat. Hatsune Miku" (here's a video about this phone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T751VmtMHPo) and its goodies, flashed a zip I found on xda that contained all the wallpapers (and the wallpaper changer that changes the phone's wallpaper everytime the phone is being unlocked), and also flashed williams kernel so I can have a better level of customization over my phone, and I was good to go. It was a better version of the stock 4.3, but still. Deep down I felt something missing......
Then I found the existenz ultra rom, which I found charming, and wanted to make my own version of the "xperia feat. Hatsune Miku" based on that. Flashed it, made the appropriate mods, and off I went again. This rom is actually stock 4.3-based, but with lots of xperia z2 goodies, so it's like having an xperia z2 with a led bar (which is working perfectly, the job done on that rom is quite good). After adjusting the ram management via the kernel adiutor and taking advice from a thread I found on these forums (if anyone's interested, take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751559), and of course, making the mods I wanted (mostly what I already described in the previous paragraph), I was in peace for quite some time....the ram management is around 300+/350+ mb free, so it's good I guess.
I'm currently rocking the existenz ultra, but I still feel something missing. I thought about reverting back to the stock 4.1.2 and its superb ram management (since I'm starting to have performance & compatibility issues with ppsspp - no idea if it's the app's fault or it's something else), but I'm not sure about that. I just don't know what to do anymore. The phone itself is awesome, but I've yet to find the appropriate rom to combine its hardware with. I'm looking for something that has the exact same led bar functionality of the stock firmwares, but also must be fast, smooth and that lets lots of ram free to take advantage of. If anyone has a suggestion, feel free to suggest. As for now, I guess I won't find peace until I find this "perfect rom".....anyway, these are my experiences with the phone. Hope I can actually help someone.
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I stumbled upon this thread and it reminded me....that I'm yet to find "the perfect rom" for my xperia sp.
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I find my story with the SP just like yours, tryied many different roms and mods for this phone, finally the best 4.3 version for my SP I've found was the leaked version from Doomlord (don't know why, I've runed .207, 205, 266 etc, they all was lagging too much after a week or so. About "best rom thing" don't really know if its the best, but with RR[bugfree] 5.0.2, I was having 595mb free on ram at boot, and after a day of usage it stays in 535mb free. Unfortunately the rom itself lacks of a good optimizations, I am no developer not even close to one and I admire a lot what they do since the days with my galaxy i5500. If I have the knowledge I would take a closer look on that rom.
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I'm looking for something that has the exact same led bar functionality of the stock firmwares.
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From my personal experience that started in February 2014 (the month I rooted my phone) and ended in June 2015 (the month in which I made the definitive switch to CM based ROMs), and given what you said in the part of your post I quoted, I'd suggest you eXistenZ. Under the hood, it's Android 4.3, but all the userspace features and apps have been ported from Kitkat, and, last but not least, it's rock solid. All the ported apps and things you'll find there are completely stable. Also next month I might bring to new life the stock kernel by modding it a bit so users that decide to go back to stock will have much better performance and RAM management.
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From my personal experience that started in February 2014 (the month I rooted my phone) and ended in June 2015 (the month in which I made the definitive switch to CM based ROMs), and given what you said in the part of your post I quoted, I'd suggest you eXistenZ. Under the hood, it's Android 4.3, but all the userspace features and apps have been ported from Kitkat, and, last but not least, it's rock solid. All the ported apps and things you'll find there are completely stable. Also next month I might bring to new life the stock kernel by modding it a bit so users that decide to go back to stock will have much better performance and RAM management.
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If you have free time and you're willing to do this, consider doing it, and you could also retrain good battery life too with this kernel you might make. Also, I'm currently running eXistenZ 4, but do you know if the black version is still based on 12.1.A.0.266 build? As far as I know it's based on that, and 12.1.A.0.266 is the worst build of all the ones that this phone had received.
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If you have free time and you're willing to do this, consider doing it. Also, I'm currently running eXistenZ 4, but do you KNOE if the black version is still based on 12.1.A.0.266 build? As far as I know it's based on that, and 12.1.A.0.266 is the worst build of all the ones that this phone had received.
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I've got no idea. But I'd suggest you to stay with the normal eXistenZ 4 you have already installed.
thanks for share
to start my story is also same
i started with flashing stock roms , stock roms are stable a lot. when we do a action it completes always in stock. but fastness and performance problem is always there no matter it is custom stock or pure stock.
i have used existenz, neildownx pure xperia and many more.
i still flash some time stock but i get annoyed by bad performance in 2 days , what i love in stock is battery and stableness.
now about custom i used mateoo cm11, bagy all rom, slim i love but except cm11 no one is stable.
i love slim but its not syalltable and problems it has are not acceptable.
cm12 or 13 i actually dont prefer.
used adrian cm13 rro
good but i didnt find it as a daily driver. tgere are some bugs in it.
many times i faced a situation when i am using custom rom and i am with frnds about to take photo and camera not opening at all.
system ui crash, whenever this happen i get very anniyed and flash stock.
i never flashed or used stock 4.1
can any one tell me how it is.
i dont care about frleatures or look. everything can be achievlved by xposed. what i ant it a stable blazing fast dailydriver rom .
currently i love cm11 latest by bagyuse and i live his work
Sam spancer said:
thanks for share
to start my story is also same
i started with flashing stock roms , stock roms are stable a lot. when we do a action it completes always in stock. but fastness and performance problem is always there no matter it is custom stock or pure stock.
i have used existenz, neildownx pure xperia and many more.
i still flash some time stock but i get annoyed by bad performance in 2 days , what i love in stock is battery and stableness.
now about custom i used mateoo cm11, bagy all rom, slim i love but except cm11 no one is stable.
i love slim but its not syalltable and problems it has are not acceptable.
cm12 or 13 i actually dont prefer.
used adrian cm13 rro
good but i didnt find it as a daily driver. tgere are some bugs in it.
many times i faced a situation when i am using custom rom and i am with frnds about to take photo and camera not opening at all.
system ui crash, whenever this happen i get very anniyed and flash stock.
i never flashed or used stock 4.1
can any one tell me how it is.
i dont care about frleatures or look. everything can be achievlved by xposed. what i ant it a stable blazing fast dailydriver rom .
currently i love cm11 latest by bagyuse and i live his work
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The stock 4.1.2 is dated, BUT: it has superb RAM management (you easily get 400-430 MB of free RAM - it's on par with KitKat and lollipop aosp-based ROMs), it's pretty fast and rock solid of course. If you're interested in great multitasking you can take a look at that. Bear in mind though that being a now dated version of Android some apps might not be compatible with it. Developers are starting to abandon these versions of Android but I suppose you'll be fine about that. If you want to try something different, give it a shot.
i don't know about doomlord leaked rom,, can anyone provide a link?
also currently I am using bagyuse cm11 latest.. smooth bt slow when one or two app I open, battery not best.
more suggestions for roms needed. also we should compare that stock or custom we should use.
I've been using Carbon LP with Helium kernel for a while. It's the best rom I've ever used so far, and the least problematic one. Fast, stable, bugfree. I've used lots of roms but almost every one of them had problems. But after 3 months of usage, carbon is still in a perfect state and it's fast as it's supposed to be. I strongly recommend that one.
i wanted a rom with all xperia features , and got one from a Brazilian .. the rom is fast and stock modified.. works at best level for me
electro_nik said:
i wanted a rom with all xperia features , and got one from a Brazilian .. the rom is fast and stock modified.. works at best level for me
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can you link that rom?
There doesn't appear to be much activity on this forum or in any of the custom ROMs for this device. I'm sad that it's stuck on Marshmallow (I know Nougat ROMs exist, but in my experience they were too unstable to use) when Android 11 is about to drop, and that GNU/Linux is not available for it. With the newest builds I can find being from mid 2019 and the Linux kernel stuck on an unsupported version, I just don't trust it to be secure any more, so I'm now using it mostly airgapped, and only on a trusted firewalled network when I absolutely must use the wi-fi.
In order to get some idea of how much hope there is, I'd like to know if anyone has a guess for how many of these are still in service.
I have one that I play with from time to time but mostly just email. I still have one brand new in a box that we never used as we got it as part of a promotion. I've thought about it using it with my OBD2 connector to troubleshoot the cars.
I got 3 of it, grandparents using 2 of them and Im using the last one for reading and surfing web.
Me! My father bought it back like in 2013 and haven't used it much until last year. Then he gave it to me and I was pumped cause never really had a tabled. I discovered how comfortable are they to read/surf/watch YouTube.
I flashed it with Lineage and later Unlegacy, both at android 7.1. I must say when it functions correctly, it FLIES!! I can watch YT videos at 720 no problems and the pictures look great, very nice colors!
Unfortunately it hangs often, like there's a hidden process of the OS causing problems. It heats the hell out of the CPU and resetting doesn't seem to solve it, but eventually goes away and comes back to normal. It expends like 60% of the time functioning right and the other 40% overheating and hanging up. It also drops wifi intermittently.
Even with all those problems I refuse to let it go. Mine is almost new, and as I said I love how the screen looks despite it's resolution. I wish I could get an stable release in 7.1 so I can squeeze the rest of it's life out of it.
Lineage is not being ported anymore by AndroidAndi and Unlegacy project seems dead as well. Im lost here, if somebody can point me to a stable release I could use for the things I do with it, that would be AWESOME! (EDIT: Will try out AICP)
You mentioned AICP, which I haven't heard of before. Is that still maintained for it?
I still have a working one and use it accasionally for movies. Now I am looking for a "newer" stable ROM, at the moment it has cyanogen mod 13.0-201618 nightly
I don't think there ever was anything stable other than KitKat. I'm using an unofficial nightly Omnirom marshmallow build from early 2019. There are Nougat nightly roms, but I've found them to be too slow to use.
I still have a tab 2. i dont ever use it but its a good backup device. i messed around with it the first time i started running custom roms on androids. i put a couple different roms like cyanogen mod. but went back to stock and havent touched it since that was like 2014. now im trying to run the latest version of lineage os to make it faster and more stable as the stock/custom rom was very unstable.
I just turned mine on and see I'm running slim-4.44 build. Sucks cause lots of stuff doesn't work on it. Netflix isn't even supported.
Is there another rom that can be loaded that's better to get better functionality? I know this is super old hardware. Email pretty much is fine but seems silly to just use this for email. Hate to throw it out because it's in immaculate condition...lol
-Nigel
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I just turned mine on and see I'm running slim-4.44 build. Sucks cause lots of stuff doesn't work on it. Netflix isn't even supported.
Is there another rom that can be loaded that's better to get better functionality? I know this is super old hardware. Email pretty much is fine but seems silly to just use this for email. Hate to throw it out because it's in immaculate condition...lol
-Nigel
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Yes, folks, this is old hardware but its not acceptable to ditch is just because its hard. We'll never move to a more sustainable economy is we can recycle old hardware. They work that you guys do with custom ROMs is awesome as you are doing your bit to not fill landfills. It would be good to know if there is still a relatively recent ROM for the Galaxy Tab 2 that is still maintained.
Hi all, I'm using unlegacy Android based on Android 7.1 and I suggest you to use it
I suggest you to not flash gapps (they're too much resources intensive). I'm currently using it with L speed set everything on performance (don't fuss with ram manager settings because it crashes) and with Firefox preview ( the fastest and most stable for this tablet IMO) downloaded from apkpure
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Hi all, I'm using unlegacy Android based on Android 7.1 and I suggest you to use it
I suggest you to not flash gapps (they're too much resources intensive). I'm currently using it with L speed set everything on performance (don't fuss with ram manager settings because it crashes) and with Firefox preview ( the fastest and most stable for this tablet IMO) downloaded from apkpure
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Hello,
Which unlegacy build are you using for your tablet? There was a build from July 2019, and it seemed to have security patch as of 7/5/2019. Unfortunately, I saw it too late on jenkins, and it isn't available for download anymore (probably because I don't know how to download older artifacts from jenkins).
I have a P5113 10.1 WiFi, and I'm using unlegacy asop 6.0.1 build as of February 2019 since I couldn't get 7.1 to get pass the setup wizard, probably because of gapps as you suggested.
ME! I still use P3100 model it is fine but it is lagging a lot these days . I'm using slim os 4.4. Anybody can suggest a smooth ROM for the Device.
Thanks
Just received one from my nephew to keep the kids busy... watching yt , uh quietly...
Kept my head busy thinking if any good ROM would be available.
Good to know there are possibilities.
I have one too.
Thanks to Android-Andi it's up and running again.
Thanks again Andi.
Yeah after so many attempts , I have now managed to make it usable.
Previously I was using crDroid rom (marshmallow) with gapps. But it was so laggy that I couldn't do anything ( literally anything). Now after doing some research I have chosen unified lineage OS 14 ( 7.0) from Android Andi's website. I am now using unified Twrp ( not the official one) also from Andi's website. And flashed a custom overclocked kernel. This time I am not using gapps ( very resource heavy). And using "NEW PIPE" for YouTube streaming. And rooted with magisk and flashed "Oxygen OS sounds" from magisk modules. Now I can watch YouTube videos 720p without any lag. This device flies now...??
I have 1
I bought one for a microbiology class because it was cheaper to buy a digital copy and the tablet than to buy the book. It was a new book with no previous editions, so I had to. I never really had to use it for classes again, I prefer a book over the tablet. It has been sitting around untouched for a bit, I think the last time I used it Hulu or Netflix no longer had a compatible app version for android 4. I can't remember how much I paid for it, but I feel like it got slow and they quit pushing out updates not long after I bought it. I decided to pull it out and play around with it. It is not doing much, so if I mess it up by rooting it, I won't be too upset. Trying to find the best way to do this. I have also seen some information about LineageOS.
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There doesn't appear to be much activity on this forum or in any of the custom ROMs for this device. I'm sad that it's stuck on Marshmallow (I know Nougat ROMs exist, but in my experience they were too unstable to use) when Android 11 is about to drop, and that GNU/Linux is not available for it. With the newest builds I can find being from mid 2019 and the Linux kernel stuck on an unsupported version, I just don't trust it to be secure any more, so I'm now using it mostly airgapped, and only on a trusted firewalled network when I absolutely must use the wi-fi.
In order to get some idea of how much hope there is, I'd like to know if anyone has a guess for how many of these are still in service.
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still own one but its slow , not as slow as my old ipad 3 which is useless now
In the name of GOD?.....Hi do you know what's custom ROM is best?slim6 2017
Still using this tablet for surfing, videos with RR rom. Quite happy with that.