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Hey guys. I'm new to the world of Android (had a Nexus 5 since November, coming from BB and iPhone). I'm even newer to modding (unlocked/rooted/installed CM on my device 4 days ago), and I'm even newer than that to XDA (first post!) so I apologize if these questions either don't belong here or are a little naive.
I've been reading and viewing a lot of reviews on OmniROM and I'm thinking of installing it when my new device comes in this week (had to RMA due to pixel issues). For the last few days I decided to unlock/root/flash a ROM on my phone just to try it out. Based on what I've seen and read, I think OmniROM would meet my needs better than CM, so I think that's the direction I'm going to go.
One thing I want to improve about my phone's performance is battery life. I've noticed a slight improvement with CM, but not nearly the improvement others have noticed when using custom kernels, such as Franco Kernel. I know that Franco Kernel has some compatibility issues with CM, and I'm wondering if those issues exist with OmniROM? If Franco Kernel is NOT compatible with Omni, could you suggest other options to achieve the same or similar improvements to battery life?
Second question is with Swype keyboard. Swype worked great for the first day or so after installing CM, but lately I'm getting the "stopped working" dialogue box after every word I type. The keyboard doesn't go away, and I can keep typing, but I get that dialogue box after every. single. word. I have no idea if it's the rom that's causing it. I downloaded Swype off of Amazon when they had a free app giveaway, but there are no updates available there. IF the issues with Swype are linked to CM, will those same issues exist with Omni? Are there any solutions to this issue?
Thanks a lot!
No clue. Alternate kernels are NOT supported and no one on the team is going to endorse one. It might work, it might not, you will not be able to file bug reports if you're running a modified configuration.
I think that Franco will work normally. It doesn't work on CM 'cuz it's CAF ROM. As I know, Omni is not CAF based so Franco (btw for me ElementalX kernel fits better, take a look at it too) should work.
Simple Question. Got Nuclearom on my phone and am quite happy with it. But I am thinking of switching to DarkRom, Candy or AOSPX. What were you experiences, which performed best etc?
For the g model dark ROM does a good job with the Los thread modem, no call bug, viper works and the delta updates are a great feature too. Battery life is good too.
No lags !!!
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Simple Question. Got Nuclearom on my phone and am quite happy with it. But I am thinking of switching to DarkRom, Candy or AOSPX. What were you experiences, which performed best etc?
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Nuclea. all of the others had performance problems not even fixable with a custom kernel. Some (Lineage, RR) had terrible GPU handling when I used them, but that was like 5 or 6 months ago, so maybe they ironed that out. Thing is, radioactive kernel has a very nicely tweaked governor (when it doesn't break your touchscreen, that is )
I'd say you should backup your current install on an SD card if you want to try something else, because you might as well want to go back. Most other custom ROMs are carbon copies of each other for some reason. For instance, RR looks like AICP, Nuclea like those but with less tweaks... and the difference is mostly the maintainer and the name (usually even the 'goal' of the ROM is the same, to "provide with the best tweakability and functionality while keeping performance best" or something on the lines).
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Nuclea. all of the others had performance problems not even fixable with a custom kernel. Some (Lineage, RR) had terrible GPU handling when I used them, but that was like 5 or 6 months ago, so maybe they ironed that out. Thing is, radioactive kernel has a very nicely tweaked governor (when it doesn't break your touchscreen, that is )
I'd say you should backup your current install on an SD card if you want to try something else, because you might as well want to go back. Most other custom ROMs are carbon copies of each other for some reason. For instance, RR looks like AICP, Nuclea like those but with less tweaks... and the difference is mostly the maintainer and the name (usually even the 'goal' of the ROM is the same, to "provide with the best tweakability and functionality while keeping performance best" or something on the lines).
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Feel you man, Tried Carbon and RR before Nuclea and got disappointed, very slow and buggy in comparison. But DarkPixel looks promising and people are reporting good speeds and more/better features.
Is someone around here who tested DarkPixel with Radioactive Kernel? Or did some other kernel perform better? Or might it even be the best to stick with the Kernel of the ROM? So many options, so few differences :/
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For the g model dark ROM does a good job with the Los thread modem, no call bug, viper works and the delta updates are a great feature too. Battery life is good too.
No lags !!!
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Nice to hear that, might try it out. Any Costum Kernel Attempts or nah?
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Nice to hear that, might try it out. Any Costum Kernel Attempts or nah?
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No, not necessary, the kernel that comes with rom does perform absolutely fine in my eyes. Only modded a bit with kernel auditor, read ahead, no big changes. Viper aroma 2.94 and lawnchair as launcher, just using the black ui, no substratum. The rom is smooth, lagfree and not overloaded with features. For smooth browsing I use the chromium swe
here from xda. Magisk 14 with unified hosts just work fine.
No saftey pass issue.
This are all personal choices of course, but it gives me a good performance.
Overall I find there's very little differences between all the lineage based roms. I use aokp with llama kernel but I may switch again if I can bothered. I use war mod too.
Used all of those ROMs for some time and finally settled with DarkRom. It is stable, fast, got its own color engine, so I replaced substratum with daily issues and never ending updates. Delta updates is another plus. I "customized" it by adding viper4android, Omniswitch and Phonograph music player and that's it. I play with the kernel, but return to the built in one, which is unbeatable smooth.
Hey to all of you Kind enough to take the time out and read this, as we ALL know XDA has been a Community for Android enthusiast from all over the world, I am one of you... I am hoping to get some Honest Feed Back for you Guys that are more incline about the OnePlus 5, so here I go, I just got a GREAT DEAL on my OnePlus 5, its the A5000, i dont know if theirs different model number for thr OP5, i do know the the OP3 & 3T has different Model #'s Cause I had that device as well, So I am Hoping you Guys can Tell Me which " 1 " of these Custom Roms is Best for Stability, Faster Internet, and Data speeds, Pretty much FAST in General, Plus decent in Battery Life as well. Im Looking to Stay as stock as Possible as well with the Original OOS. I am Hoping I can get some Help Here, will Truly Appreciate some Honest Feed Back, Thanks In Advance, and God Bless...
TBH all OOS based or the major ones(freedom os , xXx, Experience os) i have tried have been the almost the same offering battery speed and smoothness in general close to stock .Stock/Official OOS is optimized enough already that been said some kernels do help like i felt the phone a tad snappier with blu_spark and the battery to last a tad longer with Franco and with the new addition of ATK tweaks just flashing that might help you a bit in both aspects of performance and battery. Although I haven't tried flashing the atk tweak so i will inform you how much of an improvement is there.
Now trying the major oos roms i could say - xXx gives the most tweakablity compared to any oos roms and up-to-date tweaks so if you want fast updates on tweaks like modded youtube, Magisk and additions like google camera and dialer i would say go with xXx
Freedom os i guess i thought was a bit more performance based yet like a said difference is not noticeable
both oos roms offer debloating
Now if you want the same performance but stock os i would recommend trying pure fusion it provides stock os with oos camera
Freedom OS and use franco kernel. His improvements on everything about the stock experience is way better. The man even reduced power consumption with the display. So without his kernel the display eats more juice just being on. Its better to just install a stock based rom and use a kernel that sits in the background. Just install his kernel and forget it and roll with each new Freedom OS update.
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So I am Hoping you Guys can Tell Me which " 1 " of these Custom Roms is Best for Stability, Faster Internet, and Data speeds, Pretty much FAST in General, Plus decent in Battery Life as well....
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You really need to do some reading on what a ROM/Kernel will and will not do for you. Data speeds, internet will be the same- Excluding any abnormal errors with a bad rom build.
Furthermore, *not necessarily*, but the faster you want things to go, it's likely that you may take a battery hit of trying to go faster than the device wants to..
Lastly, your question is akin to asking "What is THE best car out there for me?" Nobody on this planet knows but you. YOU need to test them. First take the car out for a spin, see what YOU like. Then get people's opinions. If you like it, then like it. Some people love the Honda Pilot. Other people like Chevy Camaro. Neither are bad cars inherently. Just different strokes for different folks.
ROMS are much of the same way. I personally recommend you try Freedom OS and XXX for the OOS based ROMS.
For custom based... I recommend trying Pure Fusion ROM + Flash Kernel, Paranoid Android Unofficial, Resurrection Remix Official (You NEED flash kernel or Bluspark, otherwise in my experience it's been quite laggy)
Why do you think you need to flash a custom ROM the minute you turn on your phone? The best setup I have found for speed and stability is stock OOS rooted with Magisk, using Blu Spark kernel with speed lane enabled. I tried both xXx No Limits and Freedom ROM which are OOS based. They are both terrible. The absolute only reason people don't realize that they are ROMs that are actually worse than stock OOS is because they are also people who flashed a custom ROM as soon as they got their phones and are simply assuming the custom ROM is superior to stock OOS which they never bothered to use in the first place. xXx No Limits is not only much more buggy than stock OOS but it is also slower. Freedom ROM was overly debloated by the dev who removed some system apps/processes from stock OOS that should not have been removed. Some apps that auto load automatically on stock OOS will not boot up with Freedom ROM no matter what you do. Other apps behave differently on stock OOS and Freedom OOS--ongoing notifications and status bar icons are missing when the apps are used in Freedom--things like that. Unless you plan on using an AOSP or LOS ROM there is no reason to flash a custom ROM. You are much better off staying on stock OOS and using a custom kernel made for stock OOS.
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Why do you think you need to flash a custom ROM the minute you turn on your phone? The best setup I have found for speed and stability is stock OOS rooted with Magisk, using Blu Spark kernel with speed lane enabled. I tried both xXx No Limits and Freedom ROM which are OOS based. They are both terrible. The absolute only reason people don't realize that they are ROMs that are actually worse than stock OOS is because they are also people who flashed a custom ROM as soon as they got their phones and are simply assuming the custom ROM is superior to stock OOS which they never bothered to use in the first place. xXx No Limits is not only much more buggy than stock OOS but it is also slower. Freedom ROM was overly debloated by the dev who removed some system apps/processes from stock OOS that should not have been removed. Some apps that auto load automatically on stock OOS will not boot up with Freedom ROM no matter what you do. Other apps behave differently on stock OOS and Freedom OOS--ongoing notifications and status bar icons are missing when the apps are used in Freedom--things like that. Unless you plan on using an AOSP or LOS ROM there is no reason to flash a custom ROM. You are much better off staying on stock OOS and using a custom kernel made for stock OOS.
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^ this. Finally someone speaking sense. Only thing I disagree with is custom kernels. Stock oxygen os kernel gives significantly better battery than the rest (except simplegx, which is stock with some tweaked governors).
If you want to make big improvements to battery life, figure out what you have for wakelocks and fix them. Also, get rid of Facebook and FB messenger app. These days a kernel won't magically since poor battery life due to wakelocks.
People here talking about XXX and freedom being "custom roms" when they're nothing more than stock oos wrapped in an aroma installer ?
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These days a kernel won't magically since poor battery life due to wakelocks.
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That is only true for when the device is not in use (i.e., when in standby).
But what about when you're using it? Wakelocks are not a thing anymore.
So how will you improve battery life during usage?
Answer: With a custom kernel.
You can underclock the CPU/GPU, change some other parameters and get more battery life.
Sure, you sacrifice some performance, but the OnePlus 5 has plenty of horsepower under the hood, it won't bog down that easily.
can someone who's using LOS comment on any advantages over stock? Now that we can install magisk and xposed on stock roms, is there any advantage at all to switch to LOS? How are the comparisons on battery life and speed?
Just got the phone couple days ago. I m not new to rooting and custom rooms. But I think it is better to stick with stock for now. At least for next 3-4 months imo. The phone already has Oreo and is very stable. Battery life is pretty good as well. Barely any lag, if any. I mean things just work and this is basically stock Android. IDK. Just my 2 cents. Unless something revolutionary happens in custom rom community I will be rocking stock for a while.
Generally people flash Lineage to get a more stock Android experience on their phones. The Essential already runs stock Android. The only advantage Lineage could possibly have while stock Android is still being updated on this phone would be whatever features Lineage offers that aren't included in stock Android. You can make the Essential faster by rooting the phone and flashing a custom kernel. You don't need a custom ROM to do that.
But there are significant disadvantages to installing Lineage on this phone. For one thing Lineage doesn't offer an official build for this phone. Unless something has changed over the last couple of days Lineage for this phone is only available as an unofficial build. That doesn't just mean no official support. Lineage doesn't sanction unofficial builds and there is no way of knowing if the build is poorly coded or not. Anyone can compile an unofficial build. You can watch a YouTube video and learn how to do it yourself. If someone making an unofficial build actually knows what they are doing there is a process with Lineage to make the build official as long as both the DEV and the build meet specific standards. Flashing an unofficial build of any ROM on any phone is a risk.
Then there is the fact that custom flashing on the Essential phone can reportedly lead to hard bricking the phone pretty easily. The a & b partitions make custom flashing a lot more difficult than on single partition phones and people with a lot of previous flashing experience have managed to hard brick their Essential phone within hours of taking it out of the box.
I don't personally think custom flashing on the Essential has enough upside to be worth the risk right now but it's your phone. Unless you don't mind turning your phone into a paperweight you should at least read the entire XDA rooting guide from beginning to end (including all of the comments from people who followed the guide) and also go through the Essential Telegram group which seems to be aimed at people who are flashing on the phone. That way you will have a good idea of what you are getting into and reduce the chances of bricking your phone.
Good luck whatever you decide.
Didn't flash lineage because heard about 360° isn't working so far...
For me an showstopper
AOSiP and Lineage run fine for me. Many bugs that need to be worked out, but they still run okay. Currently running stock however as I am trying to pinpoint what is killing my battery life. One day I am running great, the next I am leaking % left and right.
I can't stand stock rom at alllll. RR is the best the phone has ran for me. I can't stand the way touch works on stock, the scrolling feels like wading through molasses.
Plus true immersive mode. Honestly I see zero benefit to stock, but that's just my opinion.
RR is pretty far from the purpose and philosophy of LOS. LOS attempts to create a stock experience with some additional features. RR is for people who want to mod their phones with as many custom options as possible. I tried RR on my OP5 and wasn't a fan but I can definitely understand why someone who doesn't like stock Android would enjoy it. But the Essential phone is a terrible choice if you want to run custom ROMs. There's almost no development for this phone and I don't know if any custom ROM other than AOSIP even has an official build. If you want to run custom ROMs you would have been much better off with an OP5T. Not only are there a ton of official custom ROMs including RR but the phone is super easy to flash on and pretty much impossible to hard brick.
LOS runs smoother than the stock ROM and I it has more advantages.
LOS:
Immersive Mode : It's very easy to hide navbar and statusbar. That and an modded Youtube app and you are ready to really use the full screen. Not just till the notch.
It's very helpful in games too where you need apps or adb with the stock ROM.
Feel: It's just smoother and more responsive thant the stock ROM
Essential Apps works just normal
It has a few bugs like app dosen't start correct but stock rom can have that too and maybe it's just my installation.
Updater : You get many Updates and you can just download and install it in the background. Then you restart and you just installed an update without any waiting time.
Stock ROM:
It's official. You get updates that are suited to this phone and the softwar knows that there is a notch.
I'm on stock because all hardware works. I want full camera including 360 to work.
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LOS runs smoother than the stock ROM and I it has more advantages.
LOS:
Immersive Mode : It's very easy to hide navbar and statusbar. That and an modded Youtube app and you are ready to really use the full screen. Not just till the notch.
It's very helpful in games too where you need apps or adb with the stock ROM.
Feel: It's just smoother and more responsive thant the stock ROM
Essential Apps works just normal
It has a few bugs like app dosen't start correct but stock rom can have that too and maybe it's just my installation.
Updater : You get many Updates and you can just download and install it in the background. Then you restart and you just installed an update without any waiting time.
Stock ROM:
It's official. You get updates that are suited to this phone and the softwar knows that there is a notch.
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If there was an official build of LOS there would be a lot fewer issues. The unofficial build is probably just the ROM code auto compiled for this device with no further tweaks or fixes. You can do the same thing with any open source ROM. Have you tried AOSIP? I would think that would run better since it's actually official. That was also a solid ROM when I ran it on other phones. Not a lot of features but very stable fast and smooth.
Is updating a custom ROM difficult on this phone? Do you need to reflash the stock system image and TWRP on a computer or can it be updated like a simple OTA?
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I'm on stock because all hardware works. I want full camera including 360 to work.
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360 isn't likely to work on any custom ROM because the code for it is probably proprietary. Phone manufacturers rarely release code for something like that. The camera code is probably the only thing on the Essential that isn't stock Android. This phone could easily run faster but Essential seems to have opted for better battery life in their stock setup. Google does exactly the opposite. They maximize performance so much that their phones run too hot and tend to burn out after a couple years. That's happened so far with the 5X, 6P & XL. Three flagship phones in a row dying from heat damage after a couple years is a pretty consistent track record.
When I was running LOS earlier this month the 360 camera worked...
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If there was an official build of LOS there would be a lot fewer issues. The unofficial build is probably just the ROM code auto compiled for this device with no further tweaks or fixes. You can do the same thing with any open source ROM. Have you tried AOSIP? I would think that would run better since it's actually official. That was also a solid ROM when I ran it on other phones. Not a lot of features but very stable fast and smooth.
Is updating a custom ROM difficult on this phone? Do you need to reflash the stock system image and TWRP on a computer or can it be updated like a simple OTA?
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360 isn't likely to work on any custom ROM because the code for it is probably proprietary. Phone manufacturers rarely release code for something like that. The camera code is probably the only thing on the Essential that isn't stock Android. This phone could easily run faster but Essential seems to have opted for better battery life in their stock setup. Google does exactly the opposite. They maximize performance so much that their phones run too hot and tend to burn out after a couple years. That's happened so far with the 5X, 6P & XL. Three flagship phones in a row dying from heat damage after a couple years is a pretty consistent track record.
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You have NO idea what the hell you're talking about...
Shut up... Flash the ROM... Then give your critique... You obviously haven't done that...
The 360 cam has worked for months...
The only reason this device isn't official... Has to do with Jenkins and gapps...
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You have NO idea what the hell you're talking about...
Shut up... Flash the ROM... Then give your critique... You obviously haven't done that...
The 360 cam has worked for months...
The only reason this device isn't official... Has to do with Jenkins and gapps...
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LOS has no quality control over an unofficial build. If it runs fine great. If 360 cam works even better. If I wanted to run a custom ROM I would have just stuck with the OP5. LOS was official on that device. I bought the Essential specifically because it runs stock Android. Buying a phone that runs stock Android and has virtually no development community so you can run a custom ROM on it doesn't make much sense to me but it's your phone.
LineageOS is great but it could be much better if we had a better Support with the essential phone.
It has many advantages.
I just installed the stock ROM and can say
- battery life is better with stock
- UI runs smooth enough but apps like Facebook runs better with Lineage
- Instagram runs better because I had the bug in Lineage that videos getting skipped while playing
- whatsapp voice messages sounds awful sometimes because the sound crackles (no problem with lineage)
- no expanded desktop mode with stock rom
Both have advantages and disadvantages.
So my plan is to test the hardware first, and see if there's anything faulty, and then proceed into unlocking the bootloader.
I'm searching for a combination of:
>Very good stability
>A good battery life & no random draining
>Least grounbreaking bugs as possible
>Lots of customization (I like to tweak every possible aspect of the OS) & theming
I don't do a lot of gaming, mostly random games, few minutes per day while I'm on the WC.
So, my question is: should I go for Oxygen OS + rooting and sleep soundly or is there a combination of ROM and Kernel that takes the most out of the 6T respecting my requisites? Hit me up with your opinions!
P.S. No I'm not lazy and yes, I've read the ROMs threads but I would like some real life opinions.
I haven't touched a custom ROM yet and I've been really happy with OxygenOS!
I'm on stable 9.0.13 and active drain seems good but idle drain, not so much. I lose about 10%-14% overnight...
Wasn't the case on .12 and your results may vary on that.
For theming I use substratum and it works pretty well!
I'd like to try custom ROMs but I'm a heavy Tasker user and my profiles now heavily work with OxygenOS. I'd have to do a lot of modifying to get working well with AOSP.
Also, I've read about small bugs like choppy display corners and buggy fingerprint reader on custom ROMs as well. Not trying to bash any custom ROM, just explaining why I have stuck with OxygenOS.
I am strongly considering going to Open Betas though, as updates seem more frequent and security patches are more up to date there as well. I opened up a thread asking about the stability of Open Beta and its all been positive!
Hope this helps.
International ROM plus xXx is and root is nice place to start.
You know that the OP7 is 12 days from release and that the price for the 6T will probably go down, right?
Other than that, the best battery would be .11 if you don't mind the security patch. Just use that + Magisk and you can't go wrong.
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So, my question is: should I go for Oxygen OS + rooting and sleep soundly or is there a combination of ROM and Kernel that takes the most out of the 6T respecting my requisites? Hit me up with your opinions!
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I like Oxygen OS. If I were making a custom ROM it would be just like OOS.
I am confident OOS will suite your needs and meet your requisites.
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So my plan is to test the hardware first, and see if there's anything faulty, and then proceed into unlocking the bootloader.
I'm searching for a combination of:
>Very good stability
>A good battery life & no random draining
>Least grounbreaking bugs as possible
>Lots of customization (I like to tweak every possible aspect of the OS) & theming
I don't do a lot of gaming, mostly random games, few minutes per day while I'm on the WC.
So, my question is: should I go for Oxygen OS + rooting and sleep soundly or is there a combination of ROM and Kernel that takes the most out of the 6T respecting my requisites? Hit me up with your opinions!
P.S. No I'm not lazy and yes, I've read the ROMs threads but I would like some real life opinions.
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Running stock Beta 9; Magisk 19.1 and ElementalX 3.15.
I have EdXposed installed for customization.
Rock solid.
I'm a big advocate of stock ROMs + root
Most ROMs can get buggy, not dexopt apps etc
Stock is smooth and works perfect.
Add magisk and win
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Running stock Beta 9; Magisk 19.1 and ElementalX 3.15.
I have EdXposed installed for customization.
Rock solid.
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I'm not trying to be a pessimist, but EdXposed doesn't seem to be of much use. I mean I would like it to be, I used to love Xposed, however anymore it seems like most everything is outdated on there or built for older versions of Android. Is there something I'm missing?
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You know that the OP7 is 12 days from release and that the price for the 6T will probably go down, right?
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Sure I know, but I really need to change my phone because it's pretty old, and found a good offer for the 6T, so I just went on and bought it :good:
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Running stock Beta 9; Magisk 19.1 and ElementalX 3.15.
I have EdXposed installed for customization.
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Thanks for the feedback, I made a research about EdXposed, but I'm not really into Xposed because I often rely on Google Pay
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I'm not trying to be a pessimist, but EdXposed doesn't seem to be of much use. I mean I would like it to be, I used to love Xposed, however anymore it seems like most everything is outdated on there or built for older versions of Android. Is there something I'm missing?
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I'm running EdXposed and a new version of GravityBox.
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I'm running EdXposed and a new version of GravityBox.
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Is there something beyond the repository in the main app?