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hi, guys....
i am new to the device htc 7510... but still get to purchase 1 regardless of my noob.... can some one explain to my what is hard spl, spl 3.5 and how to back up the roms and how to flash it and the purpose of flashing it... is it possible to change the os... to some other os, example linux or xp? lol... able to upgrade the ram? anyway to speed up the 7510? it is quite laggy with the default os... i still have a hundred question but i will be really thankful if anyone ans my question about these.. thanks....
anyone on christmas mood? lolz..z
thanks
loneice

Think of spl 3.5 as a modification to the file system, which allows a larger operating system to run. First used by the AP4 rom and still the only way to get it, if you want to try other roms that require 3.5. No you can't upgrade the ram except by adding a large SD card. You'll need to read up on many threads on this board to see how to unlock and reflash your Athena.

whats the whole point?

whats the whole point of FLASH. i want to do that to my phone but what will it do to the phone. can someone explain to me about FLASH.

Are you talking about flashing a ROM? If so the point is to get the newest or most stable build of WinMo.
Go to the ROM section and start reading the stickies. If you have a T-Mob HD2 you will want to pay particular attention to what ROM you do flash. There are two versions of the HD2, the European version on the T-Mobile version. The T-Mob version has a full gig of internal memory and a 1 gig processor while the European version only has 512 of memory and a smaller processor. If you make the mistake of flashing the wrong ROM onto the wrong phone you have an expensive paper weight.

yeah im talking about flashing rom. does this help the phone on working fast?

yes it does.

Wil Badger said:
Are you talking about flashing a ROM? If so the point is to get the newest or most stable build of WinMo.
Go to the ROM section and start reading the stickies. If you have a T-Mob HD2 you will want to pay particular attention to what ROM you do flash. There are two versions of the HD2, the European version on the T-Mobile version. The T-Mob version has a full gig of internal memory and a 1 gig processor while the European version only has 512 of memory and a smaller processor. If you make the mistake of flashing the wrong ROM onto the wrong phone you have an expensive paper weight.
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Sorry to correct you, but the Tmous has also 576MB RAM instead of 1024MB RAM, the European version does have 448MB RAM default, but after flashing a Tmous radio the ram can be unlocked so i has also 576MB RAM. I think you are meaning ROM instead of RAM
For me it's the RAM / Random Access Memory that counts since it's the memory you need to use in operation in contrary to ROM / Read Only Memory which is only needed to store your OS/Bootloader etc.
And cpu wise they got the same Qualcomm Snapdragon 8250B chipset/cpu running @ 1Ghz.
Ow and TS, if you are asking yourself what a FLASH is ? please don't try it if you got zero knowledge/understanding/informing yourself about flashing (be it pc,psp,hd2 etc.) that won't be such a good idea

Take a look at these threads:
Flashing a ROM (International HD2)
Flashing a ROM (TMOUS HD2)
Flashing a new Radio ROM
Complete HD2 guide for flashing (Video's included)
It's a lot to go over, but if you are going to flash your device I highly recommend you know what you are doing. A mistake can mean a very expensive paperweight.

To answer you question on the "whole point" thing..
There are several reasons one might want to flash their device.
I flashed hspl2 at first because I didn't like T-Mobil's lame pink pre-bootscreen. Then more recently I flashed a new Radio ROM.
Many (perhaps most) people flash "cooked" ROMs built by other members of xda (or themselves) which include their favorite apps, tweaks, themes, lockscreens, etc. already built into the ROM. Custom ROM's can also include updates to the Winmo OS.
Another reason is to change the Radio. The Radio ROM (not the FM radio) is the software that controls how your device handles data and phone connections.
Many people, including myself, flash a different Radio. Personally, I have found that my battery life, signal, and data connections have dramatically improved after doing this. You might also need to flash a new radio if you are going to try out the new(ish) android port.

Ya sorry for the mistakes. Thought for some reason the Euro version had a smaller proc as well. As for the RAM-ROM thing ya just wasn't thinking as I typed.

thanks for the information guys. i have alot of reading to do. so u guys recommand for me to flash after i read the information???

elpirruris said:
thanks for the information guys. i have alot of reading to do. so u guys recommand for me to flash after i read the information???
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Well what ROM you want to flash solely depends on what your wants/needs are. I personally prefer a clean 6.5.5 build (finger friendly/start buttons on bottom) and my current ROM is Cloudy 1.5
You will first need to flash HSPL3 before attempting to flash anything else. This will protect you from bricking your phone from a bad flash and also enables you to flash your phone from SD Card instead of USB cable and PC etc.
Once you have chosen your rom just stick the nbh file (rename to LEOIMG.nbh) onto root of SD and boot into loader.
Read all the needed info before attempting anything.

[Q] New ClockworkMod version

Hi,
There is a new version for all Desire Z of the clockworkmod, just go into rom manager and the update will prompt.
New things are the possibility of going back using the back key (this was not possible before and it was done by pressing down power button), and the possibility of partition your sd card. But why would you like to partition it? Is there any ROM that supports A2SD already??

Can someone please explain to me what is the point of installing these custom ROM-s, out of which most have some kind of bug's or disadvantages over the perfectly reliable and fully working stock ROM by HTC?
In my point of view, HTC has a massive team of developers and testers for developing their software, so it has a better chance to be more reliable and bug free than any custom ROM developed by a small team of developers, who by no doubt must be great at what they do (respect for devoting their time to advance mobile software) but by numbers alone they have a lesser edge on thinking through all the possible bugs and errors in their code.
What are the main advantages a custom ROM gives you that makes you want to replace your stock with it and risking losing some of your phones functionality..?
Thanks for any insightful answers

If you pick the right rom you will have no bugs at all, and a faster more smooth version of the stock rom.
That is all I will say. You need to try them for yourself to really know what its like, but once you do you will never want to go stock again.

I agree,... ALL custom ROMs I have ever used for long periods of time have been "snappier" than the stock ROMs. Some have better battery life, some allow further customisation than stock.
As Lenny said, give it a bash, if it is not for you then you can always revert back.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Alluuu said:
Can someone please explain to me what is the point of installing these custom ROM-s, out of which most have some kind of bug's or disadvantages over the perfectly reliable and fully working stock ROM by HTC?
In my point of view, HTC has a massive team of developers and testers for developing their software, so it has a better chance to be more reliable and bug free than any custom ROM developed by a small team of developers, who by no doubt must be great at what they do (respect for devoting their time to advance mobile software) but by numbers alone they have a lesser edge on thinking through all the possible bugs and errors in their code.
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Well, what if there's a bug in the current ROM for a function that you use a lot and you want to switch to something else that doesn't have that bug ?
What if you want to use different programs instead of the ones that HTC has picked and built into the ROM ?
What if you want to overclock your phone for extra performance and want that function built in there without any messing around ?
As for the number of people thing, although it might only be a few people actually cooking the ROM, but remember that a *lot* more could be involved in writing the applications in the ROM.
Not meant to be an exhaustive list, but those are just a few reasons why you might want a custom ROM.
This is my first Android phone, previously I was on WinMo, and there the custom ROMs were always hugely better than the stock ROMs (more stable, faster, better functionality, etc).

buzmay said:
Hi,
There is a new version for all Desire Z of the clockworkmod, just go into rom manager and the update will prompt.
New things are the possibility of going back using the back key (this was not possible before and it was done by pressing down power button), and the possibility of partition your sd card. But why would you like to partition it? Is there any ROM that supports A2SD already??
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Sorry but I am a newbie of DesireZ and on the XDA forum as well. A few things want to know about this new clockworkmod :
1) Where can I download this new version?
2) I have already installed ROM Manager but never flashed any ROM so far, so how to install this new version?
3) Can you recommend a good ROM for DZ? My main concern is that I can change the system font size, and the 4 function key below can work (I know some G2 ROM not compatible with DZ, especially the 4 keys below)
4) I have also already ENG S-Off and rooted. So I just need to save the ROM in SD and flash it with the ROM manager?
I thank in advance!

manleyfu said:
Sorry but I am a newbie of DesireZ and on the XDA forum as well. A few things want to know about this new clockworkmod :
1) Where can I download this new version?
2) I have already installed ROM Manager but never flashed any ROM so far, so how to install this new version?
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Go into ROM manager and it will tell you there's a new version of ClockworkMod available. Then you can flash it from the option within ROM Manager (and reboot into recovery if you want to, just to test it).

[Q] where do I start?

Hi guys, I was just about to flash my tab to gain some features and updates and I was about to use RomManager but couldn't find my model of tab on it.
So I started my search and came cross a number of threads that talk about flashing different parts of the firmware.
e.g. making voice calls (I'd love this but i'm with optus australia and they block... )
A kernel flash ..... sounds nice
a filesystem change
all of these sound great and I have been searching but I really don't know what is for general useage in the roms or what is specific to australian roms...
I just don't want to brik my rom....
any help
cheers

Are you willing to flash Euro ROM? I thought JM6 (can't even remember if this was Euro ROM) was the greatest, then JME.
I'm using RichardTrip OC Kernel+ext4 on JMI now and few things are broken: call volume is very small when turning it up pass 75%. If you go back to 75% it's louder LoL. Others mention video laggy. Other also suggest to go all the way to Modaco ROM. Oh, bluetooth is broken as well (when I was running Modaco kernel+JME ROM but Paul mentioned something about because the old ROM so he suggested switch to newer ROM).
If you want to convert to ext4, use Modaco kernel Jan/2x date. It's very easy. Just READ the steps and have good Roto backup to your PC first.
So there you have it. YMMV

quattr0 said:
Are you willing to flash Euro ROM? I thought JM6 (can't even remember if this was Euro ROM) was the greatest, then JME.
I'm using RichardTrip OC Kernel+ext4 on JMI now and few things are broken: call volume is very small when turning it up pass 75%. If you go back to 75% it's louder LoL. Others mention video laggy. Other also suggest to go all the way to Modaco ROM. Oh, bluetooth is broken as well (when I was running Modaco kernel+JME ROM but Paul mentioned something about because the old ROM so he suggested switch to newer ROM).
If you want to convert to ext4, use Modaco kernel Jan/2x date. It's very easy. Just READ the steps and have good Roto backup to your PC first.
So there you have it. YMMV
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Interesting_ well it's at least a place to start got lot's of searching terms now
so are the roms realesed based on performance and features since this is Linux we're talking about, I imagine that a major part of the difference is back-end as opposed to my old HTC trinity which replaced functionality as opposed to doing too much back end enhancements - Is this right? is there a list of features each rom has ?
cheers

It's probably best you go check out the "Developers" section. When someone posts a new ROM they usually give you a list of features.
Try reading the entire thread so that you can see if others are happy with the ROM or what issues they're having. After this, you can make an informed decision on which ROM to flash.

which order do we flash in?
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It's probably best you go check out the "Developers" section. When someone posts a new ROM they usually give you a list of features.
Try reading the entire thread so that you can see if others are happy with the ROM or what issues they're having. After this, you can make an informed decision on which ROM to flash.
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yes but what is the next step - what rom do i need? A system rom, A kernel a firmware fix - or rather, so I don't brick the phone what order should these be done in I think that is a better question
I have already rooted the phone , made some symlinks to add functionality so i'm kinda noobish to linux but I can catch on
cheers for any more help

I have also not yet flashed anything, because I don't have a need to as yet. But if I were to flash any ROM it would be the MoDaCo ROM with an OC'd kernel. That seems to be most peoples ROM of choice as it keeps the device looking as stock as possible with a good performance enhanced backend by changing the FS type to ext4 (which is faster than the current FS) and obviously a faster processor speed. CWM is also added for good measure. This allows you to flash certain zImages and have a more robust recovery menu.
Hope that helps.
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hi guys,
i use the following nand-rom for my htc-hd2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893620
to my problem: i would like to be able to install more apps, but there isn't enough memory on the phone. i have just e few apps installed (whats app/market/music junk/soundhound/maps).
what can i do? is it able to make the useable memory larger?
thx

MisterAHA said:
hi guys,
i use the following nand-rom for my htc-hd2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893620
to my problem: i would like to be able to install more apps, but there isn't enough memory on the phone. i have just e few apps installed (whats app/market/music junk/soundhound/maps).
what can i do? is it able to make the useable memory larger?
thx
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the rom you use is very old....
i think its time to change your rom !!
if you want a cyanogenmod rom :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1166948
if you want a sense rom :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326217
after flashing the sense rom, flash this kernel
http://www.multiupload.com/YAKT4UI92D
both the above roms are best in their class (according to me)
i my self use the dorimanx 3.0 rom !!
!!
regards......

Yes, it is probably the best if try something new.
Install new rom and before you do that make an SD ext partition. With that you gonna have more free internal space for installing apps. After that you can also move them to the SD card (if they can work from there of course) ...
Thats my advice ...
And 1 more thing - if you decide do change the kernel make sure that this kernel gonna work with the rom .... some kernels can't work with not sense roms for example ...

As already announced the ROM you are using is very old. Since your decision was to pick up a ROM which is very close to stock I suggest using tytungs ROMs. You can try his NexusHD2-Gingerbread V3.2a. To get more space for installing apps search for app2sd+...

and please next time use a subject in your thread ...
3. Post only using a clear subject and message.
You're most likely to receive a helpful answer to your question if you use a short subject title that describes your problem and a message that explains in detail what your problem is and what you've tried to solve it.
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