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Unlock Bootloader Pros and Cons

Hi all
My XPlay is unlocked and i have not rooted it or used a custom rom.
What are the good and bad points if i unlock the bootloader?
I have no intention of using a custom rom(just wish they would release official 2.3.4 tho) dont care to root it either tbh(tho that could change )
Is it worth unlocking the bootloader?
Oh and have SE confirmed a date for ota of 2.3.4 yet?
Thanks
Jay

I would not say its worth unlocking it...
Cons:
Can't update (As fare as I know)
Warranty Void
Pros:
More freedom to do with your phone (Android offers enough anyway)

Thanks Craig.
Does the Bootloader have to be unlocked to root the phone?

No you don't need to that's all I have done to mine is sim unlock aswell as the bootloader ota and pc companion updater all works fine.

jutley said:
No you don't need to that's all I have done to mine is sim unlock aswell as the bootloader ota and pc companion updater all works fine.
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What did you use to root your xplay jutley? and does invalidate warranty?

jaytwo said:
What did you use to root your xplay jutley? and does invalidate warranty?
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Rooting won't void your warranty and you can root here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
Follow the guide and it will be safe, Also you don't need an unlocked boot loader for that root either, to be honest if you don't plan on using another ROM then don't unlock the boot loader, its pretty risky as the xperia play auto updates OTA.

TheCraig said:
Rooting won't void your warranty and you can root here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
Follow the guide and it will be safe, Also you don't need an unlocked boot loader for that root either, to be honest if you don't plan on using another ROM then don't unlock the boot loader, its pretty risky as the xperia play auto updates OTA.
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Yep did this earlier and works great. Took me all of 5 minutes.

Root does void your warranty, because it's a software modification in the operative system that Sony doesn't support.
However, you people should learn to understand that your warranty and your technical service is XDA.

Logseman said:
Root does void your warranty, because it's a software modification in the operative system that Sony doesn't support.
However, you people should learn to understand that your warranty and your technical service is XDA.
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+1 but it depends how the warranty is worded, many people with the DHD got there rooted phone fixed because the warranty did'nt specifically mention software modifications

My brother said he was never going to root his phone, but then I showed him all the things he could do with it and now he can't believe he ever felt that way. I think if you looked into the possibilities a little more, you might change your mind too.
Unlocking the bootloader is another thing entirely. If you're satisfied with the stock firmware, then there's no reason to do it.

Thanks guys i might root when i feel brave enough

[Q] How to Unroot Note 3 SM-N900?

Hello,
1) How do I unroot my Note 3 SM-N900 model.
2) I know my warranty is void as I rooted the phone, but was just wondering if theres any way I could unroot and reset knox counter as well. I highly doubt this is possible but just wanted to confirm.
Thanks..

roni2915 said:
Hello,
1) How do I unroot my Note 3 SM-N900 model.
2) I know my warranty is void as I rooted the phone, but was just wondering if theres any way I could unroot and reset knox counter as well. I highly doubt this is possible but just wanted to confirm.
Thanks..
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1) There's an option on supersu for unroot, I've never tried it but if it doesn't work you could always flash a stock rom with odin.
2) There isn't yet. It's doubtful that there'll be a method to fix it but we can't know for sure. (In Chainfire we trust )

muhtesem insan said:
1) There's an option on supersu for unroot, I've never tried it but if it doesn't work you could always flash a stock rom with odin.
2) There isn't yet. It's doubtful that there'll be a method to fix it but we can't know for sure. (In Chainfire we trust )
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Chainfire mentioned himself that knox counter issue is hard to solve as it's integrated in android system as layer and there might not be a chance in future that knox issue can be solved. But still I had to root my device cause what's the use of an android device anyway if there's no freedom to root??? I think device manufacturers themselves should rather put an option at first boot to allow us to root our devices at first place instead of making things harder!!!
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Too many cases of idiots rooting these days. They grab one of those toolkits and use it to root without really bothering to take the time to understand what they are actually doing or what the risks are. Next thing they bricked it and they send it back to claim warranty. Either that or they succeed and do something dumb like over clocking until it starts smoking then claim warranty.
Of course there are plenty of competent modders out there too but there must be enough abortions going on that Samsung need to do something about it. They aren't actually stopping us from rooting mind, they are only safeguarding against fraudulent claims on warranty after it goes wrong.
Sent from my SM-N9005

muhtesem insan said:
1) There's an option on supersu for unroot, I've never tried it but if it doesn't work you could always flash a stock rom with odin.
2) There isn't yet. It's doubtful that there'll be a method to fix it but we can't know for sure. (In Chainfire we trust )
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Can anyone confirm if option 1 is working?
Also, can I modify SM-N900 to work on AWS network (Wind Mobile/Mobilicity). I am thinking of selling this phone and getting the snapdragon version. and I have a buyer who wants to work the phone on wind.

dr.m0x said:
Too many cases of idiots rooting these days. They grab one of those toolkits and use it to root without really bothering to take the time to understand what they are actually doing or what the risks are. Next thing they bricked it and they send it back to claim warranty. Either that or they succeed and do something dumb like over clocking until it starts smoking then claim warranty.
Of course there are plenty of competent modders out there too but there must be enough abortions going on that Samsung need to do something about it. They aren't actually stopping us from rooting mind, they are only safeguarding against fraudulent claims on warranty after it goes wrong.
Sent from my SM-N9005
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I'm thinkin you are right. I have a buddy that works for one of the manufactures and they have a whole department dedicated to "returns". And return numbers are much much higher than they want them to be. So anything that will bring those numbers down at all, they will do!

I would also like to know if it is possible to unroot and reset knox on the n900.
As for the warranty goes, I think that if you bring the device back because the usb port or ear phone jack or the home button fails, this should be repaired regardless if you rooted your phone.
Can you overclock your home button? What about the power button and vol up?
Lol.
Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk

does this work
Hello guys , just came across this link while surfing the net, it claims to restore warranty of rooted phone SM N 900. Please look at this. has anyone tried? please post results
http://theunlockr.com/2013/10/13/how-to-unroot-the-samsung-galaxy-note-3/

There are rooting methods without tripping Knox and in those cases removing root will bring phone back to original 100%, so to speak. However once tripped, I'm not aware of any way to undo Knox flag. The method above does not mention anything about Knox and I'm 90% sure it does not remove Knox flag, it just removes the root using Chainfire method.
However, rooted phone shows up as custom right away in about menu and it's easy to see, where Knox flag only shows up in download menu and it's more involved to find, therefore the chances are, unless it is Samsung service, they may not look or even care about Knox flag as long as it doesn't show custom/rooted, especially that Knox is only Samsung thing.
I agree 100% "genius" customers are the reason for all the blocks and lockdowns on our phones. I just read some thread about some Einstein calling customer care asking them for help in rooting the phone, I'm kidding you not and he went on and on how useless the service department is when they tried to explain that they not support custom programing etc.

captainhakan said:
Chainfire mentioned himself that knox counter issue is hard to solve as it's integrated in android system as layer and there might not be a chance in future that knox issue can be solved. But still I had to root my device cause what's the use of an android device anyway if there's no freedom to root??? I think device manufacturers themselves should rather put an option at first boot to allow us to root our devices at first place instead of making things harder!!!
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I agree that manufacturers should allow for root access, however carriers would lose their minds. It (and im basing this on the sweat of others) appears that doing a hotspot that doesn't eat the data allowed by the carrier is super easy once root access is granted. But to the point, I agree that ROOT should be given as an option OTB.
CHEERS!

UNROOT GALAXY Note 3 (SM N 900)
I bought Samsung Galaxy Note 3 in USA. And the device is an unlocked to use in every operators in North, Central, South America and Caribbean. Actually I bought the phone to use in Sri Lanka, since it was not compatible in Sri Lanka I found a guy who unlock it. To be honest I didn't know that he was going to root my phone until I tried to update my phone. It says " The device has been modified..no updates are available" That guy has rooted the device in superSU.
But I want to unroot my phone to the factory status. And I tried my self to completely unroot in the setting of superSU. And I did it..but there were no any changes in the status of my phone "CUSTOM" And I uninstalled the superUS. When I install it again through Play Store, it says "There is no US binary installed.And Super US by cannot be installed"
So please tell me how to unroot my phone to the original status to update it. Because I tried to find the firmwares, the safest and easiest way of unrooting. But I could not find it as I do not know what's is my Region code and other related details. Can anyone tell me how to do it or can you send any links to download them please ? Attached photograph will show some details of my device details of firmware. If possible inbox me [email protected] or post on this page..Thank you so much.

good job
folks... this works great..... I recommend this...

To Root Or Not To Root, This Is The Question

I have the Verizon Note 3, and want to know what it is that Verizon did to detect that you have rooted the phone, that no one can seem to find a development to slip by this detection? I want to root, but I pay for insurance each month, and for something to go wrong with my phone, and then for them to tell me that my phone is no longer under warranty because I rooted it, concerns me.
AM

I am rooted, have insurance and am on my replacement device. no problem, no questions. it would not power on, so there was nothing to see, if it's broken they replace it and I did mine at the store.

am2354 said:
I have the Verizon Note 3, and want to know what it is that Verizon did to detect that you have rooted the phone, that no one can seem to find a development to slip by this detection? I want to root, but I pay for insurance each month, and for something to go wrong with my phone, and then for them to tell me that my phone is no longer under warranty because I rooted it, concerns me.
AM
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As far as I am aware what we are actually able to do with our retail Note 3's won't trip any warranty voiding detectors. While rooting may technically void the warranty from Samsung, Verizon's extra insurance has it's own stipulation, and from what I've read on these forums, people who have rooted and flashed multiple roms have gotten replacements from both services. Besides, I'm sure the company Verizon uses for it's insurance (Assurion I believe) probably doesn't care if you're will to pay the $100 deductible.
Because we don't have an unlocked bootloader I'm not sure we can even trip the Knox counter (Samsung's built in warranty void detector). Rooting by it self won't trip this, only flashing custom roms, kernels, etc., however the wonderful Safestrap is the only way we have to flash custom roms and this method bypasses the bootloader so there is nothing to trip Knox. On top of this Knox can be disabled or completely removed.
If you ever need to get a replacement you can always return your phone back to stock, unrooted.
I hope this helps, and if you have any other questions just ask.

Ok, I am now ready to root, which is the best way to root my Verizon Note 3?

am2354 said:
Ok, I am now ready to root, which is the best way to root my Verizon Note 3?
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Check out Beans thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787627
Check first and second post.
Sent by Darkseid from Apokolips

am2354 said:
Ok, I am now ready to root, which is the best way to root my Verizon Note 3?
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Oh there's absolutely no contest here: TowelRoot - http://towelroot.com
It's worth it just for the label on the "activate" button: "Make It Rain!"
I've had no issues with it. You don't have to screw around with Odin or download any multi-gigabyte files. You don't even have to reboot. It's great.

About rooting galaxy s4

Hello,
I was wondering if the application "kingroot" is a good and trustable option to trust my device?
I also saw a site "oneclickroot.com" that looked intresting but after research I saw it's not trustable that they are out of your money.
Or what would you guys advice me?
It's not for intalling roms and so on. Just for other options that I want to root my device.
Greetings

CF-Auto-Root. It's the only way to go. And you can't without a PC.

ah owkey, and "kingroot" is unsafe then?
Oh and what about unrooting the device is that also possible with cf auto root?

And what about towelroot??
http://gs4.wonderhowto.com/how-to/root-any-samsung-galaxy-s4-one-click-0155622/

Avanox said:
And what about towelroot??
http://gs4.wonderhowto.com/how-to/root-any-samsung-galaxy-s4-one-click-0155622/
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Towelroot will simply not work on 5.0 (will reboot the phone after a while from clicking "make it ra1n" but no root access delivered)
For 4.4 you need GNF1 or older kernel for it to work - see HERE if you have newer version but still KK.

Ah ok and kingroot is also no option?
I m searching for the easyest way.
And is your way also possible to unroot?

The easiest way is CF-Autoroot, period. Flash it with the Odin software, let it deliver its payload, and you're done. If you want to unroot afterward, simply uninstall SuperSU.

Ah owkey so it's possible to unroot the device.
Will my warranty then not be rooted.
It's about galaxy s4
Some people talk about "trig Knox flag to 0x1?"
What is that???
Is it something with the warranty???
Because I don't want that my warranty is woided.

If I use your method and I must remove it with time the root.
Is this the application that I will need to reset the trig knox flag to 0x0 ???
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
Greetings

I believe it was @zelendel who brought this up on another thread, but he asks people what root is and why they need it. Since you're clearly new at this, I'm taking a page from his book.
1. What is root?
2. Why do you need root?
If you cannot answer both questions, you have no business nor need of rooting your S4. That said, there is an entire thread on Knox in the General forum that you should be reading if you want to know more. However, regardless of the methods used, if you root the Knox flag will be tripped. Once tripped, it stays tripped. There is no way to reset it, period.

Avanox said:
Ah owkey so it's possible to unroot the device.
Will my warranty then not be rooted.
It's about galaxy s4
Some people talk about "trig Knox flag to 0x1?"
What is that???
Is it something with the warranty???
Because I don't want that my warranty is woided.
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Knox is some kind of security crap from Samsung. You can find more about it in the s4 general section or by googling it.
Knox default status is 0x0.
Tripping knox to 0x1 will voind your warranty.

1. rooting the the device is to have acces to the root of the phone so you can do more with your phone.
2. I want to root it because I want to have following options enabled at my phone.
* Moving programs to my sd card (not possible anymore without rooting)
* More control over 3G/4G/Wifi/Gps (from my computer) when phone is lost
* Set a security code on the phone factory reset (with avast root edition)
* Using less battery to let greenpower auto disable the 3G or wifi and so on.
At the moment this are the most important things for me.
Flashing roms and so on doesn't intrest me now , because everything is working fine.
Greetings Avanox
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I believe it was @zelendel who brought this up on another thread, but he asks people what root is and why they need it. Since you're clearly new at this, I'm taking a page from his book.
1. What is root?
2. Why do you need root?
If you cannot answer both questions, you have no business nor need of rooting your S4. That said, there is an entire thread on Knox in the General forum that you should be reading if you want to know more. However, regardless of the methods used, if you root the Knox flag will be tripped. Once tripped, it stays tripped. There is no way to reset it, period.
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Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.
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Well yes I do have 2 year warranty because I did bought the galaxy s4 just 2 weeks ago, that's why I don't want to root it.
But if I could root it and still have the warranty on one or other way or set it back to normal , well that changes everything.
There are to much cool featers with this rooting stuff.
And also because I can't copy any files anymore to the sd card , stupidest change in android I've seen :'o
Greetings Avanox

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.
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Ah owkey np.
Well yes I do have 2 year warranty because I did bought the galaxy s4 just 2 weeks ago, that's why I don't want to root it.
But if I could root it and still have the warranty on one or other way or set it back to normal , well that changes everything.
There are to much cool featers with this rooting stuff.
And also because I can't copy any files anymore to the sd card , stupidest change in android I've seen :'o
Greetings Avanox

So apparently you're still on Android 4.4.2, since Android 5.x removed the MicroSD card restriction. Is that correct?
As long as you are NOT on Android 5.x, you can root without tripping Knox, by downgrading the bootloader and modem to an earlier version, then running Towelroot. The drawback is that you won't be able to upgrade to Android 5.x. OTA updates won't function, and using Odin to upgrade wipes the /system partition, which will cost you root.
Regardless of the warranty, I personally would trip Knox and not lose any sleep over it.

Hey
Sorry for my double post.
Euh no, android 5.0.1 was already pre installed on this phone.
It is galaxy s4 black edition gt-i9515
Hmm maybe I must wait for a moment maybe there will come new safer methods
Greetings

The fact you have a value edition S4 changes things. You might as well flash CF-Autoroot now, because there are no safe methods for you. There are no custom ROMs either, but I digress.

@darrendude1: Rule number 1 of this site is to search before you post. The entire reason the rule is present is to avoid having people ask the same questions over and over again, simply because the question has likely been already answered. It applies regardless of whether you are a noob, senior member, recognized developer, or any other title the site may bestow.
In the case of the OP, you clearly didn't read the thread, because I explained to the OP exactly why I asked the questions. He understood why I asked them, and from there we have continued the conversation. To a noob, I would hope they would take rule 1 to heart, and actually did some research into what root is so they could actually explain why they think they need it.

Will my fingerprint unlock still work after rooting and flashing custom rom?

I have researched and cannot find a straight answer to 'Will the fingerprint unlock still work after rooting and custom ROM?'
And does tripping Knox really matter? seem to be about business security
I'm coming from a HTC one m8 with Venom rom
sorry if i'm asking you to beating a dead horse

michaelcarrot said:
I have researched and cannot find a straight answer to 'Will the fingerprint unlock still work after rooting and custom ROM?'
And does tripping Knox really matter? seem to be about business security
I'm coming from a HTC one m8 with Venom rom
sorry if i'm asking you to beating a dead horse
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Yes fingerprint unlock still work after root and custom rom and if your knox is tripping and you brick your device then you must pay full price for samsung service if you want your device repaired because your warranty is void
Sorry my bad english

ake2 said:
Yes fingerprint unlock still work after root and custom rom and if your knox is tripping and you brick your device then you must pay full price for samsung service if you want your device repaired because your warranty is void
Sorry my bad english
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For fingerprint, it depends on the ROM, some rom do not have it natively, in this case you'll have to download a thrid party app. You should read ROM features, it's allways written whenever fingerprint unlock is available or not.