How long will android L take for the Galaxy S4 (Unlocked i9505)?
Forever I guess
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If you're willing to install a GPE based ROM on your device, then it should be possible to get ~2 weeks after source release (some sites suggest a 1st of November release for the sources). As for a normal OTA, there are hopes for December. Though, based on Samsung's previous history, somewhere in 2015 might be more likely.
Takenoko_ said:
If you're willing to install a GPE based ROM on your device, then it should be possible to get ~2 weeks after source release (some sites suggest a 1st of November release for the sources). As for a normal OTA, there are hopes for December. Though, based on Samsung's previous history, somewhere in 2015 might be more likely.
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Yeah, there is one right now but its not very stable (wifi not working, USB MTP broke , etc). Either way im guessing early 2015 for samsung to catch up like usual.
lohacks4pone said:
Yeah, there is one right now but its not very stable (wifi not working, USB MTP broke , etc). Either way im guessing early 2015 for samsung to catch up like usual.
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That's a ported version of the developer release for the Nexus 5 though. The Google Play Edition ROMs come from the I9505G, and are officially released by Samsung for the device, usually only a few weeks after the latest Android sources are available, as they come without TouchWiz. These also work on the normal I9505, which makes it possible to get hold of a fully working build with support for original accessories fairly quickly
That said, if one would want the TouchWiz experience from Samsung (or simply prefer not to install custom ROMs ), there's sadly no choice but to wait indeed.
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Hey all
Does anyone know if MIUI is going to release a version for the GS4?
CM already told they will NOT be adding any roms for the GS4, so MIUI is my last hope..
Maybe someone made an unofficial release of MIUI-Like rom?
Thanks
This is where owning the I9505 instead of the I9500 becomes a big advantage for people who like non-stock bulds like MIUI, CM and AOKP. Because, unlike Exynos, it's based upon an open-source architecture, it doesn't take much to convert builds to it from other devices. This is shown by the fact there is already a working CM10.1 build for it, created by someone who doesn't even own the phone.
As for the I9500, I'm sure someone will take the challenge up that the official CM team are passing up on. It will just take longer to appear and won't run as well. I don't know the score with MIUI and whether they will bother, time will tell.
But didn't I hear that the official CM team might be having a change of heart? It was back in March when they first said they would pass up on the GS4.
EDIT -- https://www.facebook.com/miuiromchina saying they won't support it for now. Not sure if that will change or if someone else will take it upon themselves to overcome the challenge of developing it for a closed source chipset.
Pagnell said:
This is where owning the I9505 instead of the I9500 becomes a big advantage for people who like non-stock bulds like MIUI, CM and AOKP. Because, unlike Exynos, it's based upon an open-source architecture, it doesn't take much to convert builds to it from other devices. This is shown by the fact there is already a working CM10.1 build for it, created by someone who doesn't even own the phone.
As for the I9500, I'm sure someone will take the challenge up that the official CM team are passing up on. It will just take longer to appear and won't run as well. I don't know the score with MIUI and whether they will bother, time will tell.
But didn't I hear that the official CM team might be having a change of heart? It was back in March when they first said they would pass up on the GS4.
EDIT -- https://www.facebook.com/miuiromchina saying they won't support it for now. Not sure if that will change or if someone else will take it upon themselves to overcome the challenge of developing it for a closed source chipset.
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Codeworkx and Faryaab are working on the i9500.
I thought I read about a change of heart, like I said. Surprised about Coderworkx though, all the signs were that he had given up on Samsung for good. Have you got a link with confirmation that he is working on the S4? And with the I9505 being the official North American device I'm sure an official build of that will arrive soon enough.
The Samsung devices I currently own (i9100, i9100g, i9300, i9305, t0lte, p5100) are the last ones i will officially support. Some of them might be dropped with the next big android release. Yes, i’ll NOT touch the Galaxy S 4 and whatever comes after it.
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http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/category/cyanogenmod/
Strong words to go back on but good news nonetheless.
Yes, things doesn't look too good for the i9500
Will Faryaab save my day? who is he?
Pagnell said:
I thought I read about a change of heart, like I said. Surprised about Coderworkx though, all the signs were that he had given up on Samsung for good. Have you got a link with confirmation that he is working on the S4? And with the I9505 being the official North American device I'm sure an official build of that will arrive soon enough.
http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/category/cyanogenmod/
Strong words to go back on but good news nonetheless.
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https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_i9500
So there's a chance after all :angel:
Will there be a official release for android Marshmallow for TN7 ?
Are you sure you want one?
I suppose it would be nice to get something beyond the slightly glitchy 5.1 they released. But 6.0 isn't exactly bug free.
Would be happy if they release a patch for glitchy 5.1. Sent several tweets to nvidia, tegra and someother regarding this. Lets hope for the best.
The Shield Portable people are stuck with a poor Lollipop build too. I think NV is done supporting the Tegra 4 hardware.
They are having enough trouble making MM work properly on the Shield Tablet. The first release had lots of problems. Last week they pushed another update but then pulled it because it was breaking wifi for many people. Ugly stuff. But other people claim it is solid. So who knows. Heh.
Don't know about the official builds but shaky is already working on a custom marshmellow
No developer interested in this device?
I am a noob, but would have loved to see marshmallow or nougat on this device.
I have been waiting a while to post this because posts like this always get killed, but for a phone with a factory-available bootloader unlock, I am surprised we don't have a modded stock ROM to try out yet. TruPure on the Moto x Pure was awesome, although it altered very little. I know CM is being worked on but given some of the responses in that thread, it could be quite a while.
So aside from that observation, is anyone actively working on something like that and if so, can you post here and let us know how things are coming along? I know we all would be appreciative of the effort.
They're waiting on a full image of the ROM to be released, with all the img, radio, ect.. and other files needed to make it work. Once that drops form ZTE, it's on like some 80s video game reference.
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They're waiting on a full image of the ROM to be released, with all the img, radio, ect.. and other files needed to make it work. Once that drops form ZTE, it's on like some 80s video game reference.
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Noob question: Cannot these be taken from images that were extracted from the phone already? Does rom provide that much more?
This is a genuine question, isn't rom just a packed and zipped version of what is on the phone?
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Noob question: Cannot these be taken from images that were extracted from the phone already? Does rom provide that much more?
This is a genuine question, isn't rom just a packed and zipped version of what is on the phone?
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I was pretty sure that once we got root and bootloader access that this could be done just as you said here. No need for drivers or proprietary anything...although the camera API will be a problem, but I think it's possible right now. I was just wondering why no one has the desire to attempt it. Did the weird release and shipping debacle for the grey phones really make everyone avoid the phone and hamper dev this much? Sort of disappointing if that is the case.
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I was pretty sure that once we got root and bootloader access that this could be done just as you said here. No need for drivers or proprietary anything...although the camera API will be a problem, but I think it's possible right now. I was just wondering why no one has the desire to attempt it. Did the weird release and shipping debacle for the grey phones really make everyone avoid the phone and hamper dev this much? Sort of disappointing if that is the case.
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This worries me as well. It appears that there is only one person actively working on a custom ROM. Although things can pick up later, this does not bode well for the future.
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This worries me as well. It appears that there is only one person actively working on a custom ROM. Although things can pick up later, this does not bode well for the future.
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My thoughts are differently, base on the many issues people are running when trying to get back to stock and the fact they there's 2 B20 versions around (B20 Stock & B20_boot) make things a Little harder to do, like for sample,
I have the B20_boot version and as you can see I uploaded a backup with Xposed debloated and Rooted (I can consider that backup/ Custom ROM) but stock B20 can't use that backup as far as I know... I can easily release a flash able zip base on my backup but (Xposed,Debloated,rooted) but I bet only 5% of the user are using b20_boot.
So till find a way or just way till ZTE release a firmware image we are going to be little stuck with just CM which is getting more stable every day/week
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I have been waiting a while to post this because posts like this always get killed, but for a phone with a factory-available bootloader unlock, I am surprised we don't have a modded stock ROM to try out yet. TruPure on the Moto x Pure was awesome, although it altered very little. I know CM is being worked on but given some of the responses in that thread, it could be quite a while.
So aside from that observation, is anyone actively working on something like that and if so, can you post here and let us know how things are coming along? I know we all would be appreciative of the effort.
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First, the Moto X Pure was widely available. It was not shipped out in smaller batches once a month. When it was released, it was available for everyone to purchase. For the Axon 7, the first batch and second small batches of phones sold out during pre-order, and the third batch hasn't even shipped yet. (and it hasn't received a wide release in Europe yet either, think they just had one small batch)
Also, the Moto X Pure had bootloader unlock available at launch. The Axon 7 did not get a bootloader unlock method until August 11th, less than a month ago. (and at this time, there is no bootloader unlock for the European or Chinese models, just the North American model)
And just as a reminder, the Moto X Pure launched in early September. Dev for CM12.1 started in late September. The first custom ROM, an alpha of CM12.1, was released a month later, in the beginning of October.
If I remember correctly, Android Nougat Custom ROMs were out withing weeks of official release of it.
I'd like to know why there is delay for Android Oreo
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If I remember correctly, Android Nougat Custom ROMs were out withing weeks of official release of it.
I'd like to know why there is delay for Android Oreo
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There are some out. They are just in alpha testing mainly. Although there are some daily driver ready ones out. The delay is likely that I think not all the sources and device trees for updated to the AOSP project as quick and all in one go as nougat. I built a rom a couple of days ago and had some issues but after an AOSP update I was able to build an Oreo ROM fine with no issues.
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If I remember correctly, Android Nougat Custom ROMs were out withing weeks of official release of it.
I'd like to know why there is delay for Android Oreo
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I just posted this elsewhere lol when a new version of Android drops, custom roms take quite awhile to update.
If you follow specific dev teams, you'll notice they take their time to release after new Android updates. Others, have fewer features or use AOSP, and they'll be quicker to update. Dev teams are testing features, seeing what code is deprecated, what features can be dropped due to low use, etc. A minimum of two to three month wait is normal for some roms to update. If you think they are taking awhile, help them out. Otherwise, enjoy the wait cuz this is a hobby for everyone.
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There are some out. They are just in alpha testing mainly. Although there are some daily driver ready ones out. The delay is likely that I think not all the sources and device trees for updated to the AOSP project as quick and all in one go as nougat. I built a rom a couple of days ago and had some issues but after an AOSP update I was able to build an Oreo ROM fine with no issues.
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I just posted this elsewhere lol when a new version of Android drops, custom roms take quite awhile to update.
If you follow specific dev teams, you'll notice they take their time to release after new Android updates. Others, have fewer features or use AOSP, and they'll be quicker to update. Dev teams are testing features, seeing what code is deprecated, what features can be dropped due to low use, etc. A minimum of two to three month wait is normal for some roms to update. If you think they are taking awhile, help them out. Otherwise, enjoy the wait cuz this is a hobby for everyone.
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thank you both. I guess I'll have to wait more patiently like I've been waiting for xposed
I was particularly looking for something similar to S-AOSP as that won't be continued to Oreo
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thank you both. I guess I'll have to wait more patiently like I've been waiting for xposed
I was particularly looking for something similar to S-AOSP as that won't be continued to Oreo
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Superxe ROM sounds good for you.
Stay tuned for Nitrogen'O'! They have a nice working beta ROM if you can't wait....
This is not as question, but as discussion about our phone official support. And yes Mi A1 won't get Android Q:crying: According to Google answer Pixel/Android One phone receive at least 18 month for OS upgrade support. And as today (March 2019) it's already passed. It's about OS upgrades. Now about security updates. According to Google in past the Android One should have at least 3 years security updates support. But on October 2018 Google gave an official mandate about taking 2 years of security updates for popular Android phones (later in December 2018 Google change rules for Android One as well to 2 years). But since Xiaomi doesn't really care about Mi A1, it shows that the end of support is near (maybe 1 or 2 months).
Links:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/724ij3/android_one_update_period_18_vs_24_months_and_who/
https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/24/18019356/android-security-update-mandate-google-contract
https://www.indiatoday.in/technolog...e-is-deleted-from-its-site-1418261-2018-12-27
Time to move to a custom ROM
At least, means it will get no less than 18 months new OS releases.
On the other side, i think it will sure get the new ''whatever-iteration-may-have'' Q version of android because there will be no major difference in OS and will be easy enough for developers to adapt.
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At least, means it will get no less than 18 months new OS releases.
On the other side, i think it will sure get the new ''whatever-iteration-may-have'' Q version of android because there will be no major difference in OS and will be easy enough for developers to adapt.
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Not sure for it. 18 months has passed just now. I don't have any hopes for xiaomi to make new update, just because they already showed how much quality they put in upgrate of phone (Android pie for exp.) Making android Q doesn't makes them any profit. And in their interest to get customers buy new devices.
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Yep. It is. There are already new march security update out. Customs get it almost instantly. While official there's no any guarantee to even get any further updates at all.
I'm already on LOS. 9.0 push me to LOS 15.1 and I'm sure I will never come back to stock.
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I'm already on LOS. 9.0 push me to LOS 15.1 and I'm sure I will never come back to stock.
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I am on stock. No root. No nothing. And I really love my Mi A1. But every time I see people talking about loving custom ROMs I wonder what am I missing?
Does anyone have a solid official confirmation from Xiaomi that they won't be continuing to support the Mi A1 in terms of major OS updates? I'm thinking about moving to a custom ROM but I want to ensure that there won't be any major official updates coming anymore.
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I am on stock. No root. No nothing. And I really love my Mi A1. But every time I see people talking about loving custom ROMs I wonder what am I missing?
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you miss a lot, but not need per se a custom rom, is enough root + all the goodies will come with root and customization.
force doze, custom kernel, magisk modules, google camera and so on.
caolan said:
I am on stock. No root. No nothing. And I really love my Mi A1. But every time I see people talking about loving custom ROMs I wonder what am I missing?
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To others, there is a lot. But to me, there is only 1 thing: stock doesn't support Ex-fat sd cards, and the only kernel that offer true Ex-fat support is custom roms only. On stock 8.1 I can live with a Magisk module that support Exfat but 9.0 is the main reason I jumped ship.
The unofficial los 16 by flex is an amazing rom don't let the unofficial bit put you off, it's the perfect daily driver, more customisation than stock but not ott like some roms
I am happy to have gotten 2 major updates, previously at this price point we would have been lucky to get 1, so android 1 program has increased value with updates. I was hoping to get 3 years of security updates, so disappointed Google has changed the requirement, but perhaps Xiaomi will honour the expectations when the device was released.
Even at 2 years I would still have bought the phone, but annoyed if it's changed after purchase.
I currently use Stock unrooted Rom, the first phone I haven't at least rooted, but I am sure the community will keep the phone going for another couple of years at least.
I bough this phone on Nov 2017 (if note mistaken) and I'm quite satisfy with the update from Nougat to Pie. But if you buy the phone later than that you probably feel not enough update (because you only receive Oreo to Pie update) but I believe you have received price drop compare to the initial release.
I prefer stable rather than updated OS. This device is already more than 1 year and new android OS will optimize new hardware, smartphone hardware obsolete very fast compare to PC or other device. There's no other choice if you want to optimize your phone to the latest android OS except buying new phone. I like to stay to the stock rom (with Magisk of course) till the end just to get full experience of Android One. I'm not gonna denied that Android One is a bit mess up either from manufacture side and Google itself. I will probably buy Android One device again in the future (few years from now) and see how much Android One will improve.
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... I currently use Stock unrooted Rom, the first phone I haven't at least rooted, but I am sure the community will keep the phone going for another couple of years at least. ...
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Same here, first ever un-touched stock. I'm still satisfied with this mid-low budget phone and that the OS is (pretty) free from "customization".
It is (was) a good bang for the buck when bought in Nov. -17 and still does it's job.
Features like GCam and similar were never promised or supported so that wasn't an issue for me nor a reason to root...