Well rumour has it that - Microsoft are thinking seriously about the possibility of adding a notification system/bar/centre/hub in upcoming major update to Apollo !
Well the current implementations on other platforms like android or ios (which are essentially the same)- wouldn't blend with 'modern ui' .
My guess is they'll include maybe silent pop ups or even expand lock screen notification system - a universally accessible notification centre is also not out of the equation .
Don't know if this has been discussed earlier - but anyway share your ideas and opinions on what you guys think of this
I hate the idea of a notification center. iOS got it all wrong and it's useless- android's less so but still prone to the same issues.
Live tiles are meant to get rid of the need for a notification center- thus the only logical solution for WP is a live tile that shows missed notifications FOR MANUALLY SELECTED APPS.
Otherwise all live tiles will become redundant. WPHacker's version of a notification center is fine (live tile, shows a list which lets you "replay" notifications), so long as he figures out how to exclude apps, because I swear- WP had the first system to eliminate data redundancy and if they **** that up I will refuse to update for as long as I can.
Agreed completely there - a tile based solution will be more feasible and look native and its the only way i can think of implementing a notification centre without disturbing the simplicity of ui work flow.But the thing that worries me is whether what MS is planning is going be as simple a solution as this , well there is always a probability of them screwing it up talking too much of outside opinions into consideration .
I agree. If MS listens to and just delivers a traditional notification center as demanded by all the android users coming to WP, then they're going to royally screw the platform.
They should patch the gaping hole in the current system, not add another redundant one.
Edit- I just read one of the ideas on windowsphone uservoice: turning the app list into a hub (a la photo hub), which provides an easy way to integrate a notification center (as part of the hub and as a pinnable tile.
Well, right now users can create their own notification center. Simply put all the tiles giving you notifications as small tiles in the first row of the start screen. It's how I fixed the issue when I moved over from Android.
Live tiles are useless for a notification centre because they don't necessarily capture all notifications, like toast notifications.
We need a proper notification centre implementation. One where we can see notifications without unlocking the screen (customisable of course).
IOS has the best implementation of a notification centre so far. Fantastic customisation. I just hope wp8 gets it sooner rather than later. It wil never be competitive otherwise.
Long press search key to open Notification HUB and it'll also have search notification feature, just to justify the use of long press search key action.
Dr.Paul said:
Live tiles are useless for a notification centre because they don't necessarily capture all notifications, like toast notifications.
We need a proper notification centre implementation. One where we can see notifications without unlocking the screen (customisable of course).
IOS has the best implementation of a notification centre so far. Fantastic customisation. I just hope wp8 gets it sooner rather than later. It wil never be competitive otherwise.
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But how would an ios style implementation blend with modern ui it'd look ugly
Dr.Paul said:
Live tiles are useless for a notification centre because they don't necessarily capture all notifications, like toast notifications.
We need a proper notification centre implementation. One where we can see notifications without unlocking the screen (customisable of course).
IOS has the best implementation of a notification centre so far. Fantastic customisation. I just hope wp8 gets it sooner rather than later. It wil never be competitive otherwise.
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The toast notifications are not shown forever because they are not important. They are usually used in games, to notify achievements, or to bring something to your attention.
Live tiles, and now I am referring to properly programmed live tiles, do exactly what a notification center does, they warn you about the existence of something you are yet to review. You have a missing call? fine...look at the phone tile. You have a new message? fine...look at the message tile. Oh look, someone posted some meaningless thing on your facebook...np, just check the "Me" tile.
IMO, people have to get used to interacting with the live tiles first....
Do not bring in poorly constructed apps. There are a lot of developers who do not take advantage of the live tile.
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I hate the idea of a notification center. iOS got it all wrong and it's useless- android's less so but still prone to the same issues.
Live tiles are meant to get rid of the need for a notification center- thus the only logical solution for WP is a live tile that shows missed notifications FOR MANUALLY SELECTED APPS.
Otherwise all live tiles will become redundant. WPHacker's version of a notification center is fine (live tile, shows a list which lets you "replay" notifications), so long as he figures out how to exclude apps, because I swear- WP had the first system to eliminate data redundancy and if they **** that up I will refuse to update for as long as I can.
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I had thought livetiles were a pre-notification adoption by microsoft. Wp7 had tiles well under developement when android was released. Then androids notifications were revised a good deal, and microsofts implementation was rethought as a result, which is why this thread is happening. The live tiles are fine for what they can display, but need a supplement for folks that prefer all their info in one place. There is nothing wrong or bad about allowing folks to turn on a feature to show more information in a dedicated (hidden) huge tile or drawer like android/ios have done.
I think wpx could benefit from not neccisarily forcing people to a notification area, but allowing them to choose a more sensible full area as opposed to only a snippet of info in each tile. It would be cool to choose tile, toast, or full one note area.
I would like a notification center, because I'm not pinning all the possible apps that have push notifications on my home screen.
For example, I have WhatsApp and Skype, but they're not pinned because I don't frequently use them.
However, when someone messages me and I'm too late, I'll never know. This just happened yesterday, I got a message on WhatsApp so I tapped the push notification but appareantly I missed a message back from december 9th, because I didn't see the push notification there was no way for me to tell I had a message. Since I'm not a regular user of the app I won't randomly open it just to check for new messages, I just don't think of doing that.
If there'd be a notification center, I could easily pin that and it could show an overall number of notifications I haven't responded to (either tapped or swiped away).
It would work just like an app, once you tap the tile it opens the notification center app and shows the ones I didn't respond to. You could also show the number on your lock screen.
That way you're still free to choose wether you want to use it or not. Don't like the notification center? Fine, don't pin it or use it, nobody's forcing you to do so, but it's convenient for the people who do want one.
I like the idea of a swipe to the left on the homescreen to reveal a notification center. My problem with the live tiles, is that they only show the latest email, or message, etc. no matter how big you make the tile, it should scale or rotate, something.. I would like to be able to see a quick list. And the lockscreen just gives you numbers, I understand the security of not showing previews, but I would like the choice.
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I have at least one hope: Microsoft so far has not opted to simply adopt something "as is" from another system since they launched WP. So I actually believe that when a notification center arrives it well blend in well with the system.
Aside from that: I don't really miss a notification center. Actually the notification bar drives me nuts on my SGS2. It's always full of stuff I just don't want to know or don't care about. 10 Apps updated, every single one of them creates an entry that stays there *yuk*
So yes, I believe that if there is a notification center I have to be able to filter which notifications end up in there. But of course Microsoft mandated that the user must be able to turn notifications off in every App so at least I'll have that possibility.
What I really would like to see is the possibility to add an arbitrary number of Apps to my Lock Screen. If I have 3 Mail-Adresses + Phone Calls and Short Messages there simply is no room for an Icon for Skype or WhatsApp or Whatever. And most of the time not all of them show notifications. It might be beneficial to have certain notifications at fixed positions but overall I would love to have more space for them.
Aside from that I don't see myself using a notification center too often. Just keep me from the Android hell of notification spam.
I don't understand why people keep complaining about Windows Phone not having a notification center. I really think most of them think they need one just because iOS and Android do... I never actually missed notification center on WP.
But still... if they're going to introduce some kind of NC, how about swiping to the right ? To the left we get a list of apps, so the other side is free and could present us with a list of notifications. I'm sure im not the first to think about this solution.
Whatever you do Microsoft, just don't treat us to another lame swipe-down-pull notifications list...
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I don't understand why people keep complaining about Windows Phone not having a notification center. I really think most of them think they need one just because iOS and Android do... I never actually missed notification center on WP.
But still... if they're going to introduce some kind of NC, how about swiping to the right ? To the left we get a list of apps, so the other side is free and could present us with a list of notifications. I'm sure im not the first to think about this solution.
Whatever you do Microsoft, just don't treat us to another lame swipe-down-pull notifications list...
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people explained why they want one.
i think a notification center is a necessary evil in a smartphone.
the current (and future) purpose of this device is comunication and exchange.
over time we develeped and are still developing varous forms thereof.
it is not a single system and will never be.
our phones currently try to merge it for us and present it in the most comfortable form.
so the flood of notifications will just grow.
the winner will be the one wich can present them best to us and therefore any form of a (global) notification center is needed imho.
I´m a WP user for years. And i really miss a notifications centre like on Android.
I´m really based on the "latest" news, so i use many news apps with the "pop-up feature".
I dont need a smae centre like on android, but i would have a place where i can see my latest informations about some news, or messages.
There is an app called unification that is trying to do that. If you want notification so badly maybe you support it? http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/unification/6e861d4d-a072-46ee-a878-14917ce2c7b7
Since I got the Note 3 a week ago, I've spent most of that time trying to find a way to get proper lockscreen notifications. "Proper" in this case means pretty much what LockInfo IV did on jailbroken iPhones (if you're familiar with that):
Each notification chosen by the user is displayed on the lockscreen as a separate entity
Each notification (text or email) can be viewed in its entirety on the lockscreen, if the user chooses that option (such as by tapping to expand each notification)
Notifications are persistent, in that they remain visible on the lockscreen whenever the phone is brought out of sleep mode.
I've tried LockerPro, Nils, Pop-up Notifier, and others and they all fail in one way or another. I'm led to believe that lockscreen notifications are limited by the way that Android populates the notifications panel. The big problem is that if you get more than one email or text, they all get lumped together into a single, useless "You have <x> number of new messages" entry, which means you have to unlock the phone and launch the respective app to see who it's from and what it says.
This completely defeats the purpose of screening notifications on the lockscreen.
I'd appreciate recommendations for any app that will make lockscreen notifications useful. Thanks to designgears, my phone is rooted now, if that makes a difference.
Try dynamic notifications. It mimics the moto x.
Won't show everything though.
Thanks for the suggestion. I've tried that one and it didn't do it for me, but I'll give it another shot at some point.
For now, I've stopped worrying about lockscreen notifications, since push email is basically broken on the Note 3 anyway. It's like a time machine back to 1995.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I've tried that one and it didn't do it for me, but I'll give it another shot at some point.
For now, I've stopped worrying about lockscreen notifications, since push email is basically broken on the Note 3 anyway. It's like a time machine back to 1995.
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Hey - I was looking for the same for my N3....i've been trying Dynamic Notifications on and off for awhile now. At first it works, and then just stops. Maybe give Knock2 +V2..I'm testing it now and so far it seems to work flawlessly for me
Ok. I've had my watch since release and like it for the most part.
But who in the hell at Google decided, you can have notifications, but not use the time. Or use the watch to tell time, by turning notifications off (basically making wearing it pointless.)
Why doesn't Google allow notifications to pop up when received, but then you can Swipe them down to hide them (like in muted mode).
There are some notifications I want to keep, but then your freaking watch is useless to tell time with. (unless you turn off all future notifications)
I was really thinking about buying a moto 360 when it was released too. But knowing now my only 2 options are to turn off the smart part of the watch. Or not be able to tell time after 3pm. Makes it pointless.
You could use a digital watch?
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Ok. I've had my watch since release and like it for the most part.
But who in the hell at Google decided, you can have notifications, but not use the time. Or use the watch to tell time, by turning notifications off (basically making wearing it pointless.)
Why doesn't Google allow notifications to pop up when received, but then you can Swipe them down to hide them (like in muted mode).
There are some notifications I want to keep, but then your freaking watch is useless to tell time with. (unless you turn off all future notifications)
I was really thinking about buying a moto 360 when it was released too. But knowing now my only 2 options are to turn off the smart part of the watch. Or not be able to tell time after 3pm. Makes it pointless.
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I'm pretty sure that you can do this as soon as the watch api is released. Right now there simply is no way to do this.
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You could use a digital watch?
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Which kind of defeats the purpose of having a watch you can customize.
I'm sure the people buying a moto 360 will be thrilled to learn they bought an analog style watch to only be able to show digital time on it.
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I'm pretty sure that you can do this as soon as the watch api is released. Right now there simply is no way to do this.
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I hope your correct and Google didn't give LG or Samsung the api yet either since default faces are the same. I wouldn't be as concerned if it was only user made faces that couldn't hide it.
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There are some notifications I want to keep, but then your freaking watch is useless to tell time with. (unless you turn off all future notifications)
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Why not just set it so notifications are hidden in dimmed mode? So when you glance at the watch you can see the entire watch face. If you need to see the previous notifications, just activate the display and swipe up.
My notifications on my LG G are semi-transparent so I can see a full-screen analog watch-face even in non-dimmed mode. Although I always use a digital watchface which shows in top left corner, for quicker glancing... Is this problem specific to Samsung or is there something I'm missing?
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My notifications on my LG G are semi-transparent so I can see a full-screen analog watch-face even in non-dimmed mode. Although I always use a digital watchface which shows in top left corner, for quicker glancing... Is this problem specific to Samsung or is there something I'm missing?
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On Gear Live the notifications are NOT semi-transparent, so this may actually be a samsung specific problem... Hopefully an update can "fix" this.
johnus said:
Why not just set it so notifications are hidden in dimmed mode? So when you glance at the watch you can see the entire watch face. If you need to see the previous notifications, just activate the display and swipe up.
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That's still a work around over what should be a setting. Just think it would be common sense to Swipe down to hide notifications on active screen until you Swipe up to see them.
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My notifications on my LG G are semi-transparent so I can see a full-screen analog watch-face even in non-dimmed mode. Although I always use a digital watchface which shows in top left corner, for quicker glancing... Is this problem specific to Samsung or is there something I'm missing?
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I'm using a g watch. And maybe mine is flaky. But I can not see though the notifications on active screen. . I can use a digital clock and get around it. Just like analog a lot better.
Is there an app similar to "notification center" on pebble, where I can force the watch to vibrate when I get a notification from certain applications?
For some reason I just can't get certain apps to vibrate (and I just see the notification, which is no good because I just miss it).
I don't know if those apps are poorly written or set wrong or what.
Other apps vibrate - so it's not a general problem. I shouldn't have to be screwing around with so many settings like this.
I'm fairly happy with my Moto 360, but missing important notifications is a dealbreaker, and I might be forced to go back to my Pebble.
Anyone know of an app that can do this? I don't mind paying for one.
- Frank
Found one that worked: Augmented SmartWatch Pro.
It seems that wechat doesn't send a "vibrate notification" so it breaks android wear.
Instead it just does a normal app vibration.
Augmented works similar to "Pebble notifier" where it sends a vibrate notification to Android wear.
Hey anybody know how to turn on the breathing led notification like we normally get on any other android phones in case i miss a call or anything i can see the details on my lock screen but no breathing led notification for the same!
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Hey anybody know how to turn on the breathing led notification like we normally get on any other android phones in case i miss a call or anything i can see the details on my lock screen but no breathing led notification for the same!
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There's no led notification on nothing phone, only glyph, someone is working on an App to modify how it's working but it requires Root at the moment :/
I just remembered about the Glimpse Notifications app on the Play Store, it has recurring notifications and a self test section just did it a test quickly then and it seemed to work (glyph lit up, vibration as normal) so that might be a solution in the meantime