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Upgrade Advice: SGS II vs GNex

Dear xda,
To many of you this may seem like a stupid question, and are probably thinking "this idiot should just go do some research" - I already have. I can get an upgrade as early as the 28th March (Just over a month away). I am not considering the SGS II (I already know it will be too expensive)
So this is what I know to make my decision upon, any other developments, user experiences welcome.
Galaxy Nexus Pros:
-Google ICS
-Will receive latest updates
-4.65" Screen 720x1280 HD
-Aesthetically pleasing
Galaxy Nexus Cons:
-PenTile matrix screen [everyone or reddit says not to worry, this screen is the **** and a lot better than sgsII's)
-Price
-Worse Camera than SGS II
-Worse GPU than SGS II
-Worse CPU??
Galaxy S II Pros:
-Getting ICS
-Cheap (£26pcm - will drop with release of SGS III)
-Awesome hardware
Galaxy S II Cons:
-Smaller screen than GNex 4.2" 480x800 WVGA
-Almost a year old (however still comparable to Gnex which is a "brand new" device)
-Not sure: worse android development than GNex??
Also on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/q19aa/upgrade_advice_galaxy_nexus_vs_samsung_galaxy_s_ii/

By March 28 the SIII will probably be revealed...

ClaudiuJer said:
By March 28 the SIII will probably be revealed...
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May last I heard, but it'll be way too expensive, the only benefit it will give me is drive down the prices of those two phones.

Yes wait for a couple of months or you will repent for sure. Both the devices you have shortlisted will be outdated soon.
Sorry to say this here, but looks like Windows Phone 7 is also a good platform.
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There are new midrange phones expected from HTC. Waiting will be the best choice at the moment.
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Prices will come down but I don't think by that much as this is still a powerful phone. It's selling well and I doubt we will see the SGS3 that early as most likely they will try to have a same timeish global launch considering it's pretty new in the States. I personally think they will try to compete with the iPhone 5 than anything else so may get a delayed launch but that's just what I think!
Hold tight as rumours it may get announced at the Amsterdam event next month so we may or may not get an indication of release date.

From a specs standpoint, the practical difference in high end Android devices is absolutely nothing. You aren't doing any computationally intensive operations like compiling source code or video conversions. You're running games and social media apps and texting and looking at emails.
Sure, the GSII has more megapixels, but I can't tell a difference in the picture quality. Plus, the Galaxy Nexus has a much fast shutter speed, which more than makes up for the 3 megapixels it's giving to the GSII.
The screen surface of the Galaxy Nexus is smoother than the screen surface of the GSII. I have no idea why, but the GSII isn't nearly as easy to fling your thumb across and shows fingerprints more.
The Galaxy Nexus has a recovery partition, the GSII doesn't. The Galaxy Nexus development is thriving and probably has 5 or 6 ROMs that are built from Android Source. There are 2 AOSP roms for GSII and several Samsung-based ROMs.
Really, I love both of the phones. There are ALWAYS better phones on the horizon. Always. Don't wait.

evolutiontheory said:
Yes wait for a couple of months or you will repent for sure. Both the devices you have shortlisted will be outdated soon.
Sorry to say this here, but looks like Windows Phone 7 is also a good platform.
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Nononononononono, no windows, no. lol, nah I'm sticking to what I know, screw WP or iOS - Android is the future, plus I've got a ton of paid apps.
evolutiontheory said:
There are new midrange phones expected from HTC. Waiting will be the best choice at the moment.
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No more HTC - do not like sense, and my HTC Desire has had a horrible track record of breaking, only good thing I can think of is customer service.
nikzDHD said:
Prices will come down but I don't think by that much as this is still a powerful phone. It's selling well and I doubt we will see the SGS3 that early as most likely they will try to have a same timeish global launch considering it's pretty new in the States. I personally think they will try to compete with the iPhone 5 than anything else so may get a delayed launch but that's just what I think!
Hold tight as rumours it may get announced at the Amsterdam event next month so we may or may not get an indication of release date.
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I'm in no rush anyway if I'm honest, the earliest I can upgrade is the 28th March (officially ends June 28th), I just want to know where I stand with phones so I can get right in there and not have to ponder too much about what I'm going to go for. It's funny to see the idiot salesmen try to push crap onto you though (I was told the Buzz is better than the Bravo when I was getting it).

bortak said:
Nononononononono, no windows, no. lol, nah I'm sticking to what I know, screw WP or iOS - Android is the future, plus I've got a ton of paid apps.
No more HTC - do not like sense, and my HTC Desire has had a horrible track record of breaking, only good thing I can think of is customer service.
I'm in no rush anyway if I'm honest, the earliest I can upgrade is the 28th March (officially ends June 28th), I just want to know where I stand with phones so I can get right in there and not have to ponder too much about what I'm going to go for. It's funny to see the idiot salesmen try to push crap onto you though (I was told the Buzz is better than the Bravo when I was getting it).
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Definitely will upgrade to Galaxy Nexus from current SGS II
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I will recomand SGSII i had GNex and was a bit dissapointing,a little bit laggy worse camera and the build quality is not so good

I would go for the galaxy nexus 100%. If i had the choice i would myself or wait for the s3. But nexus will get updates quicker and its "pure".
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Not nearly all nexuses are getting updates straight from google, also it has lots of pixels so lots of work to do for gpu so it might be a bit laggy
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The buttons being on-screen on the Nexus would worry me a bit, they're going to cause some annoying screen burn.
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had the Gnex for a week. Its really overhyped, im sorry to say. There is actually nothing i really preferred over the SGS2. Even the screen was not as bright and vibrant.
Go with the sgs2.

Since you crossposted this thread in the Galaxy Nexus General section, I have to close this down in accordance with XDA rules
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Would One X+ be a better buy?

Now that I'm officially on the 3 week wait period, I am wondering if the HTC One X+ would be a better buy. Yes, I lose the latest version of Android for now but I'm sure HTC will upgrade it soon. What I do gain is supposedly a better camera and lots more storage. Not sure about the performance and battery life between the two. If price was not an issue, would you chose the One X+?
(Hope this is the correct forum to post this question)

ajaffarali said:
Now that I'm officially on the 3 week wait period, I am wondering if the HTC One X+ would be a better buy. Yes, I lose the latest version of Android for now but I'm sure HTC will upgrade it soon. What I do gain is supposedly a better camera and lots more storage. Not sure about the performance and battery life between the two. If price was not an issue, would you chose the One X+?
(Hope this is the correct forum to post this question)
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I thought it had nice stats and I love HTC devices. I would have probably gotten it if it wasn't for the N4. That said man. I love this N4. If you were wanting it, I'd wait it out. You'll be happy you did.

ajaffarali said:
Now that I'm officially on the 3 week wait period, I am wondering if the HTC One X+ would be a better buy. Yes, I lose the latest version of Android for now but I'm sure HTC will upgrade it soon. What I do gain is supposedly a better camera and lots more storage. Not sure about the performance and battery life between the two. If price was not an issue, would you chose the One X+?
(Hope this is the correct forum to post this question)
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I've owned HTC devices, they're good but HTC will not update it soon. Maybe by next year. The camera is better and you wouldn't have to wait, otherwise I'd go with the Nexus 4.

tweaked said:
I thought it had nice stats and I love HTC devices. I would have probably gotten it if it wasn't for the N4. That said man. I love this N4. If you were wanting it, I'd wait it out. You'll be happy you did.
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Thanks for your response. Is the glass on the back of your phone scary? There is a thread here of someone cracking it and the verge review also mentioned the back cracking. I have had my iphone 4s slipped off my hands a few times (didn't crack though)

ajaffarali said:
Thanks for your response. Is the glass on the back of your phone scary? There is a thread here of someone cracking it and the verge review also mentioned the back cracking. I have had my iphone 4s slipped off my hands a few times (didn't crack though)
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It's very slippery indeed. Especially if you place it down on an uneven surface. I'm definitely going to buy a coating for the back or a case.

If price wasn't an issue, I would purchase the One X+ rather than wait indefinitely for the N4.

Anyone has any performance or battery life comparisons? I understand the Nexus 4 has a more powerful CPU but from what I'm reading, it throttles down more than it should. In that case, does the One X+ end up being a better overall performer?

ajaffarali said:
Thanks for your response. Is the glass on the back of your phone scary? There is a thread here of someone cracking it and the verge review also mentioned the back cracking. I have had my iphone 4s slipped off my hands a few times (didn't crack though)
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Scary? No. Fragile? Perhaps. But I have had quite a few phones and they all seem like that to me. I put a TPU case on it. It raises the screen off of any surface so I don't scratch it and it will protect it from a small fall.
The Battery has been ok for me. I got about 8 hours yesterday with heavy usage and I was at 41% when I crashed, so I left it on my chest of drawers and this morning it was at 39%. I thought that was cool. My Inspire would have been almost dead.

Nexus has more RAM and a much better SoC. There isn't much between the One X and the One X+, and I don't regret changing one bit.
Of you are thinking of HTC I would suggest getting an N4 users ditched one off eBay and saving a bit of cash.
No S-OFF for them, mind, which is gash.

My only concern is the fact that tegra 3 is really outdated. Regardless what benchmarks say and what not. They are outdated.
The tegra 3 is still fast and has good performance, while that's all fun and good there's still many many down sides
1. Google is moving at a fast pace, that means => more updates
2. for HTC sense that means they will have to put that into their UI - if you're aware of htc you should know by now that their sense UI framework all goes together. That means if one part doesn't work you probably won't get the rest of it to work. This means that updates generally probably take longer to integrate into sense than it does into stock android. Even galaxy s3 is a better option in my opinion, the reason i believe samsung is able to upgrade their devices faster than HTC is because their UI is NOT as complicated. IMO touchwiz is just stock with a few things refurbished.
3.LOCKED BOOTLOADER - I'll say it once and i'll say it again, flashing is easy. Very easy. However, there are MANY people who are on leaked jelly bean rom via flashing.
Where's the problem you ask? The problem is that it is only flashable to a certain number of cids. In the htc one x/jelly bean leak update case, the jelly bean rom was only flashable to european cids, this means that MANY people couldn't flash their phone despite having rooted and some even unbranded phones.
This is in my opinion very unfair of htc and a good reason to choose not to go for HTC until they sort this mess out.
4. The price of the htc one x -> 520~530 euros... No thank you, you can get an as equally good device (nexus 4) for cheaper. And even if it is not cheaper in your country and costs you 500 euros, it is still better than an outdated tegra 3 chip with slow updates.
I have the feeling google will sort out battery problems. Just give them time. Once again, that's just my opinion, but i have faith in google.
oh and #5...
Tegra 4 is probably coming out next year, which isn't too far from now, you might have to wait a few months. But before getting this outdated chip you might wanna stick to nothing or buy a nexus 4. I know i'd do that, but i want to go for google this time around because they give you the best experience in the long run.

Well, you could have one before a month so if your in a hurry its a good buy.
Other than that, I wouldn't. Primarily due to the screens HTC uses, but that is personal preference.

ajaffarali said:
Now that I'm officially on the 3 week wait period, I am wondering if the HTC One X+ would be a better buy. Yes, I lose the latest version of Android for now but I'm sure HTC will upgrade it soon. What I do gain is supposedly a better camera and lots more storage. Not sure about the performance and battery life between the two. If price was not an issue, would you chose the One X+?
(Hope this is the correct forum to post this question)
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If you cannot wait it out like me, I would suggest the galaxy note 2 if the size and price is not a concern for you. I got the international version because it receives updates faster that the American carrier crippled versions.

ballaz said:
If you cannot wait it out like me, I would suggest the galaxy note 2 if the size and price is not a concern for you. I got the international version because it receives updates faster that the American carrier crippled versions.
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The Note 2 is massive! I tried one out but couldn't get used to the size.

I was definitely going to get the One X+ until they announced the N4, which became my preference, With the delay I have looked at the HOX+ again but prefer to wait for the N4, due to price, better SOC, updates.
However if HTC were to announce a WW version of the DNA.............

Rusty! said:
Nexus has more RAM and a much better SoC. There isn't much between the One X and the One X+, and I don't regret changing one bit.
Of you are thinking of HTC I would suggest getting an N4 users ditched one off eBay and saving a bit of cash.
No S-OFF for them, mind, which is gash.
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I completely agree that the SoC is technically better but what's the point if thermals aren't good enough to keep it in check. The iPhone 5 with a dual core processor is performing better than the Nexus 4 which shouldn't be the case.

crawlgsx said:
Well, you could have one before a month so if your in a hurry its a good buy.
Other than that, I wouldn't. Primarily due to the screens HTC uses, but that is personal preference.
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What's wrong with the screen of the one x? Apparently it is as good as the nexus 4 if not better. The only difference being that the one x has more contrast. The only thing i liked about the one x was its amazing screen.

You could wait for a bit and see if the DNA gets released worldwide? The Nexus 4 might be out by then so you can compare

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If you cannot wait it out like me, I would suggest the galaxy note 2 if the size and price is not a concern for you. I got the international version because it receives updates faster that the American carrier crippled versions.
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I seriously gave this a thought and decided the phone is just way too big - I tried putting dummies on my pocket about 10x. It will fit well in your pocket (imo) but since I'm an active dude that's always on the go it's not ideal at all. I need something more mobile that can be tucked in easily. I think I'll set a 5-inch screen as my limit. Beyond that it's an overkill.
Moreso, if the N4 did not exist I would've given the Lumia 920 a try for a change.

I'd say they are on par. But only if the One X+ gets Cyanogenmod 10.
The One X has:
-a better camera
-LTE
-more storage
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-1gb of RAM (WHY HTC?!... WHY?)

ajaffarali said:
Now that I'm officially on the 3 week wait period, I am wondering if the HTC One X+ would be a better buy. Yes, I lose the latest version of Android for now but I'm sure HTC will upgrade it soon. What I do gain is supposedly a better camera and lots more storage. Not sure about the performance and battery life between the two. If price was not an issue, would you chose the One X+?
(Hope this is the correct forum to post this question)
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If they were both the same price: HTC. Seeing as the off contract price of the HTC is double that of the Nexus 4: Nexus.
Backordered baby!

Want to buy Nexus 4. Still a good device?

Hey guys,
I am thinking about getting a Nexus 4 to replace my HTC Sensation. The Sensation has many problems such as huge battery drain and it gets extremely hot during usage. So I thought the Nexus 4 would be a great idea. Pure Android (huge fan of that, was using CM for a long time on my Senny) and Google Support sound good and the price seems to be okay to (I could buy a 16GB variant for about 310€).
Is this phone great? Is it still worth buying considering it's already nearly a year old? Does it have some know problems such as huge battery drain or display problems?
I need this phone for browsing, using the calendar, writing emails/sms and sometimes taking photos. I don't play any games on it except 4 pictures 1 word.
Thanks in advance!

I too came from a Sensation, and it's a fine upgrade, for all the reasons you mention. Perhaps not as durable as HTC's build quality, so be sure to include a decent cover (I use the Diztronic TPU and it looks factory) to protect that beautiful glass. It's a joy to use..you can't go wrong. Cheers!

I just got one a couple days ago. I'm really liking it. Great jump from a galaxy s2
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paranoid android85 said:
I just got one a couple days ago. I'm really liking it. Great jump from a galaxy s2
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X2
I came from a galaxy s2, and previously HOX tegra. I bought a N4 2 weeks ago, and in stock its pretty smooth, awesome i'd say. Better price/performance choice. You wont regret
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I bought a Nex4 about 6 weeks ago after being a long term BB user, our company provide BB but have just let us go BYOD. I got N4 to replace the BB and so far it hasn't disappointed in any way. I also wanted the pure Android experience after my N10. The phone has been a good choice.
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Honestly, if that is all you use your phone for, you should get the Lumia 1020. But if you want to stay with Android and can wait 4 more months, the 5th Nexus will be out then and should the price be as low as the Nexus4, then it would be better to get that.

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Honestly, if that is all you use your phone for, you should get the Lumia 1020. But if you want to stay with Android and can wait 4 more months, the 5th Nexus will be out then and should the price be as low as the Nexus4, then it would be better to get that.
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The Lumia 1020 would be out of the price range. I'd never pay 400€+ for a phone I only use for work. I probably can't wait till the next release because the Senny really bugs me. I can't use a phone which burns in my hand because it's getting extremely hot while chewing through battery like nothing. My Sensation barely gets through the day with moderate use.
€: And I don't like WP because I'm a huge fan of costumization.

Keep the Sensation or whatever you have and wait for Nexus 5, trust me on this.
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Ace42 said:
Keep the Sensation or whatever you have and wait for Nexus 5, trust me on this.
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I can't sincerely tell someone to purchase a 7 month old device when knowing a faster device will come for the same price in due time.

Well you can go on buying Nexus 4, everything is a beauty when you compare prices and then it is a google phone so it always have it perks.
If you think you should wait for nexus 5 then its not very much pretty soon bcz this time google launched s4 and htc one as google variant which means next nexus will take time.
Your tasks which u need to perform as you have mentioned would all be performed very well.
Tip I can give even for better battery.
Unlock the bootloader, use custom recovery such as CWM and flash CM 10.1 stable releases which ever is latest.
Find franco kernel and flash that and for better colours use its colour profile.
You will have an outstanding experiance with great display and great battery time.
Best of luck.
NOTE. All decision is urs what ever suits you best.
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I can't sincerely tell someone to purchase a 7 month old device when knowing a faster device will come for the same price in due time.
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People will and should buy the device that suits their needs and the price they are willing to pay.
If you want a unlocked / contract free phone the device is a good choice
The entire motion that a new device will be out in a couple months is pointless. He wants a phone now. A couple months is just that. A couple months living with a phone he doesn't want. Then when the next nexus device comes out there will be the next best thing on the horizon.
He a is a basic user that doesn't participate in the stupid I need the lastest and greatest hw spec race.
Sitting around waiting for 4 plus months for a device is just stupid.
Why buy a HTC one now? The plus version is coming? Why by a s4 now? The advanced or whatever version with the 800 is coming in a couple of months.

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People will and should buy the device that suits their needs and the price they are willing to pay.
If you want a unlocked / contract free phone the device is a good choice
The entire motion that a new device will be out in a couple months is pointless. He wants a phone now. A couple months is just that. A couple months living with a phone he doesn't want. Then when the next nexus device comes out there will be the next best thing on the horizon.
He a is a basic user that doesn't participate in the stupid I need the lastest and greatest hw spec race.
Sitting around waiting for 4 plus months for a device is just stupid.
Why buy a HTC one now? The plus version is coming? Why by a s4 now? The advanced or whatever version with the 800 is coming in a couple of months.
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To each their own, I cannot speak for the needs of TC nor their personal interests. Whether he's comfortable with waiting X months is currently unknown and has not been divulged in this topic, so we can agree to disagree.

He said he probably can't wait for the next release because his phone bugs him.
Even a device like the HTC first would suit him fine hardware and software wise. Not unlocked and cheap of course ( don't even think it launched outside the US or unlocked) but just talking the device itself
There are plenty of users who are not concerned with the I can read the spec sheet pissing matches. Wait for the latest and greatest chip so they can have a higher score in benchmarks etc.

Its definitely still worth buying full price. Its a great device especially if you're a fan of stock android like you said.
Happy phoning.

I really don't need high specs. Benchmarks never intersted me because at the end you probably won't feel any difference between for example the snapdragon 600 and the snapdragon 800 in everyday use. I just want the phone to work well without stuttering and without any hick ups.
Send from my flying Note 2

If you need a phone now, just go for it. If you are not in a hurry, you can wait and see what comes up. IMO I usually don't want the first batch of the phone anyway since they are usually the ones with problems.

just buy it
I highly recommend nexus 4.. Believe me it's as smooth as HTC one out even better..
Root and flash cyanogenmod and Franco kernel... That made me a delighted user from a happy user...
Besides it'll have developer support for hell lot of a time to come... Even after people forget about HTC one and s4..
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I'm going to buy it at the end of August and I think it is still worth it. However reading this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2259334 scaried me!

Buy now or wait?

Currently I have an iPhone 3GS. It's served me well for the last year and 3/4 but its starting to show its age. Really I just want to know if I show go and buy a nexus 4 now or should I wait for something like the note 2 to come down in price? Any help in answer this question would be good.

Noobven said:
Currently I have an iPhone 3GS. It's served me well for the last year and 3/4 but its starting to show its age. Really I just want to know if I show go and buy a nexus 4 now or should I wait for something like the note 2 to come down in price? Any help in answer this question would be good.
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I'd get the Nexus 4 now, it just depends how long you are willing to wait.

It depends on your budget. If you waited this long I don't see why you can't wait to see what phones are released later in the summer.
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Well I've only really been looking this month. My main concern is the longevity of the nexus 4 as I read that is slowly being outdated without being a year old( but seeing as my phone is 3 it shouldn't really concern me). And as for my budget I'm looking for the best that is around $400-$500

If you're budget conscious and think you would enjoy the stock Android experience, I say go for it. If you take excellent care of your phone you can always sell it for a good amount on eBay or Craigslist and use that money to buy an upcoming phone should it appeal to you more.

daewond3r said:
If you're budget conscious and think you would enjoy the stock Android experience, I say go for it. If you take excellent care of your phone you can always sell it for a good amount on eBay or Craigslist and use that money to buy an upcoming phone should it appeal to you more.
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I'm kinda new to the android market. I've got a transformer pad tf300. Could you explain what's the difference between that and the stock android experience. Is one better than the other. Or could you link me to somewhere I could find this information.

Noobven said:
Well I've only really been looking this month. My main concern is the longevity of the nexus 4 as I read that is slowly being outdated without being a year old( but seeing as my phone is 3 it shouldn't really concern me). And as for my budget I'm looking for the best that is around $400-$500
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Idk where you read that but the Nexus 4 is about to receive 4.3 and will more than likely receive 5.0 later this year. The Nexus 4 has a lot of life left in it. Even after Google stops official support I'm sure the dev community will keep it going a while longer.
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Noobven said:
I'm kinda new to the android market. I've got a transformer pad tf300. Could you explain what's the difference between that and the stock android experience. Is one better than the other. Or could you link me to somewhere I could find this information.
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I've never used Transformer before but I believe it runs a slightly skinned version of Android? In any case you can look up YouTube videos of the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 7 to see what stock Android is like.
It's debated (of course) but most of the Android devotees enjoy "stock/vanilla" Android, which basically means it's Android as it comes from Google. OEMs like Samsung, HTC, Motorola, and others all put their own custom skins on it. They often add features that stock Android doesn't have (some useful, some gimmicky) but the general consensus is that the skins bog down the phone and that loss in performance outweighs the extra bells and whistles you get.
Being that you're an iOS user, think of it in these terms--a Nexus device is the closest thing to an iPhone for Android. I mean this in the sense that when Google releases a new version of Android, you get it quickly after it's release. Just like you do when Apple pushes an iOS update. If you had say a Samsung Galaxy S4 and were anxious for Android 5.0, you'd have to wait at least a few months for Samsung to rework their Touchwiz UI over the new Android 5.0 and send out an update.
Given your budget, I would totally recommend the Nexus 4. You'll even have some extra cash to spend on some great accessories to keep it nice and safe--in case you do decide to sell it for something coming in the next year.
Hope this helps.

The only reasons to wait would be the release of the x phone or the next nexus. As we don't know if the x phone will be worth it, and the nexus 5 isn't even announced yet (don't forget the time it took to get the phone on stock..2 or 3 month after release), I'd say get the Nexus 4 and be happy.

I bought my N4 last week and I advice you to buy it

I am normally a buy now type of guy.
But I would wait to the moto x announcement. And at least see if the tumours are true.
One of the biggest things about a nexus device is that is unlocked and off contract.
If the moto x is going to be available for 299 of contract and their is a device for your carrier of choice, that would also be a tempting deal. Decent specs and lte and a good price. I don't really believe that rumor but I would at least wait til find out. It's only a week away.

ccab said:
The only reasons to wait would be the release of the x phone or the next nexus. As we don't know if the x phone will be worth it, and the nexus 5 isn't even announced yet (don't forget the time it took to get the phone on stock..2 or 3 month after release), I'd say get the Nexus 4 and be happy.
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Moto x not worth it. It's a dual core phone and not even 1080p. The only thing better for the Moto x over the n4 is probably the camera. Spec wise, n4 is a lot faster. Plus it's a Nexus phone so therefore, it will have the latest updates. Moto x will still require carrier approval most likely.
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Moto x not worth it. It's a dual core phone and not even 1080p. The only thing better for the Moto x over the n4 is probably the camera. Spec wise, n4 is a lot faster. Plus it's a Nexus phone so therefore, it will have the latest updates. Moto x will still require carrier approval most likely.
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Not worth it? You don't even know the price. Nor do you know the network the user is on. I assume if he is from the states he is on att. That alone could easily push somebody to a moto x phone on that network for lte over their crap 3g.
Specs don't mean crap. Benchmarks don't mean crap. In no usage case with the nexus 4 be a lot faster. In fact it the moto x should be faster in day to day use. It won't be slower.
The op didn't mention a thing about getting updates and doesn't even know what the stock experience is and so on.
If he wants to spend up to 500 on a phone he could also consider dropping that for a oppo. And that phone is old and still worth that price.

zephiK said:
Moto x not worth it. It's a dual core phone and not even 1080p. The only thing better for the Moto x over the n4 is probably the camera. Spec wise, n4 is a lot faster
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The problem with some android users is that they measure everything according to hardware, i call this the samsung mentality, "pump in the latest and greatest hardware, it will look good on paper, who cares about user experience" . No wonder the S4 has a lot of problems and as they call it over there (on their xda forums) "unoptimized software yet". Doesn't sound nice for a >650$ device.
I'm not a fan of Apple or any of it's products, but comparing the hardware/performance of the iphone5 vs galaxy S4 , as sad as it sounds, the my-little-pony-phone destroys that S4 in all fields even with inferior hardware.
So don't put the Moto X on ignore list just yet, i'm sure those 2 cores are going to be more than enough for one of the best android user experiences, and the lack of 1080p display is there for a reason. And finally don't forget that rumors say it's going to be an affordable phone targeting a wider crowd than, let's say, the nexus line.
An average non tech savvy individual doesn't care about which hardware the device rocks, they only care about the overall user experience, and the Moto X might provide just that.

I don't think the N4 will be outdated anytime soon for me at least, but I guess it depends on your needs. The biggest downside to N4 (for me) is the lack of external SD and LTE. If you feel these features are important to you in the near future, I would wait. If not, I would buy.

I bought one last wed. The Dev community is huge for the device and will be for along time. Pricing and hardware is awesome, not to mention I think its still one of the best looking phones. I say go for it.
Cheers, J.

I bought the N4 recently and I'd say wait for the moto x. It's just a week more and I think it's better looking than the nexus. Hardware specs are not that important. If you don't like it you can still get the nexus later.
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From which phone you will jump to OnePlus One and why ?

Hi there guys,
as in title allready asked "From wich Phone you will jump to OnePlus One and why ?"
I will sell my Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE+ I9506 with Snapdragon 800 cause there is no Development an no CM10/11 support for it!
As the nature of a technique freak is that mostly tune/modify and want it adjust more personal likes and featurs...
In my opinion a phone who dont got CM support is a dead phone cause mostly if there is no CM support there is also no development for this phone! Thats my experiance in last 4 years!
..... well on Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE+ I9506 i had nothing of this ... + Samsung pushed their phones with NSA stuff like KNOX... that was the headshot overall!!!
So i will never buy a Samsung phone that is KNOXED... !!! Bye Bye Samsung!! It was a good time the last 4 years but with KNOX no more!!!
And the 5,5" Display and the Frame of OnePlus One is okay for me cause i also had a Note 2 before the S4 so i know the advantages and disadvantages of such "big" phones
It like you look through a big window instead of a small keyhole.... well thats my sense of taste for such of sizes
At least it was short journey at the s4 phone and i gained to 2 new great xda friends there who is and was willing to do something there Absolon and DeHAWK.
Ill hope Absolon and DeHAWK jump on OnePlus One too!!
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This is my story/current basepoint and i cant wait to buy this phone and support this Company OnePlus!!!!
Cheers

I will upgrade from the LG L3 to the Oneplus One 64GB, my girlfriend gave this phone to me after smashing my HTC. So I can give this phone back to her

Send to trash my HTC One to get OnePlus :laugh: Am I crazy?

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Send to trash my HTC One to get OnePlus :laugh: Am I crazy?
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Definitly crazier than me !
Cheers

Nexus 5! I'm so ready to buy one.

Wow, All of you sacrificing flagship devices... I'm coming from a midrange device, the HTC Desire X. There is not much developement there and just now it is beginning to get CM10 support which is still buggy, so I'm looking forward to get a phone with good specs, recent software and hopefully good developement. Also I'm looking forward to contribute to and support this forum as soon as I can get my hands on this phone!

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Wow, All of you sacrificing flagship devices... I'm coming from a midrange device, the HTC Desire X. There is not much developement there and just now it is beginning to get CM10 support which is still buggy, so I'm looking forward to get a phone with good specs, recent software and hopefully good developement. Also I'm looking forward to contribute to and support this forum as soon as I can get my hands on this phone!
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I'm coming from a HTC One, don't get me wrong it's an incredible device but if I manage to sell it for ~£200 I'll definitely buy the ONE. I'm hoping for more battery life however if I do I'll miss the incredible speakers... (Stereo Downfacing?!)
Edit: I can buy it in HK where the price for the ONE will be around £200

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I'm coming from a HTC One, don't get me wrong it's an incredible device but if I manage to sell it for ~£200 I'll definitely buy the ONE. I'm hoping for more battery life however if I do I'll miss the incredible speakers... (Stereo Downfacing?!)
Edit: I can buy it in HK where the price for the ONE will be around £200
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The Oneplus One is said to have great stereo speakers as well. I don't know if they're as good as the ones of the HTC One though.

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The Oneplus One is said to have great stereo speakers as well. I don't know if they're as good as the ones of the HTC One though.
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The problem is the speakers are placed on the bottom of the phone. Also the only advantage I can see from them being stereo is being louder due to constructive interference as I can't see much of a 'stereo effect' coming from speakers with that little separation...

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The problem is the speakers are placed on the bottom of the phone. Also the only advantage I can see from them being stereo is being louder due to constructive interference as I can't see much of a 'stereo effect' coming from speakers with that little separation...
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If you want, I'll test them before you are going to buy this phone. I'm definitely going to get one.
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If you want, I'll test them before you are going to buy this phone. I'm definitely going to get one.
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That would be awesome thanks, I'm not expecting them to be as good but I hope they are better than the speakers on something like the S5.

id have to say id be coming from a Galaxy S4. i miss CM and im srsly debating on whether to get a N5 or not or just wait for the oneplus. although their contest sounds interesting to smash a phone...might be a fun time to head out to the WMA.

Coming from the Nexus 5. Crazy good specs for a cheaper price. 64gb is only 350 heck yeah. OPPO quality is awesome too
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coming from a galaxy s2, never give up my s2 because with cyanogen it still looks like a new phone and all the features like monitor mode and things i put in it.. but the oneplus one it's just "wow" that spec for that price and already with cyanogen..
i'm gonna buy one for me and also one for my mother

Just bought a HTC One M8, but I have a fully working S4 lying around, so I'll either smash it if I get picked for the contest, or just sell it and buy the OnePlus One. So then I can say I have 2 1s. One+one. Wut.

I just got a brand new Galaxy S5 two weeks ago and if I was given a ticket to purchase a One+ today, I would do it in a heartbeat and sell the Galaxy 5.
The Galaxy 5 is a great phone but all the Samsung "chrome" is driving me insane.. and I don't want to root it because of Knox.

Note 3 att If I got picked I'd smash this Knox loving locked bootloader non development having paper weight in a second...and if not I'll sell it and buy one asap
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The problem is the speakers are placed on the bottom of the phone. Also the only advantage I can see from them being stereo is being louder due to constructive interference as I can't see much of a 'stereo effect' coming from speakers with that little separation...
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You get used to a lower quality sound. I sold my HTC One 2 weeks ago to get a G2 and even though the G2 is louder the quality it's not nearly as good as the HTC one delivered. But as I said, you just get used to what you are currently using, don't let that stop your buying impulse .
I'm also thinking of selling my G2 and buying one even though I'm clearly not get it as cheap as others since I have to import it wheter from US or China so I'll be paying around 400-500USD wich I'm currently used to pay for my flagship phones here where I live ( that's considering that I import them not buying them from the mobile companies here wich totally ripe u off with prices as crazy as 1000USD )

From a Samsung Exhibit II. Yea, I'm quite due for an update!

Gonna jump from my HTC One (M7) it have served me well, but my body is now ready for a bigger screen, the OPO seems like a perfect fit, as I also love it coming with CM11S as the default rom.