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Hello guys, im new to the forum and this type of phone so pardon me if i come across ignorant i can assure you this is not through arrogance, i have searched the website for 2days and could not find any advice on this matter and get this message 99% of the time! "Connection error while attempting to download weather data, retry?" (keeps happening no matter how many times i retry)
I have tried hard reset, soft reset even changed my network thinking the data reception was bad but this still seems to be the case where ever i am positioned with my phone.
This is an awesome phone, but an incredibly consuming one that can be frustrating at times! without the guys on this forum I dont think I would have lasted one day!
Any help would be much appreciated!
Make sure your 3G settings do not include "this network connects through a proxy".
lorin.bute said:
Make sure your 3G settings do not include "this network connects through a proxy".
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i have the same problem and already do that but nothing, always the connection error too!
just a question, you have problem with the connection only when you are trying to download weather update?
Hi,
I get this issue depending on my location. At my home I will get this message, but when I am at my office in Birmingham, it would update the my location weather no problems.
I think that if the place you are trying to get weather data for, is not on the database, then it will give an error. Because the software is not intelligent enough to find the 'nearest' place to your location.
The other problem can be caused by your telecoms, and how your 3g data is routed. As other have mentioned, this might be fixed with the proxy setting.
Oh, and I think you need to be receiving a 3g signal for this to work, I've never seen it work over GPRS...
To be honest, I've disabled the auto updating feature of this now. Because if I really needed to know about the weather of 'my location', I can always take a peek outside!
Sorry that you can't find any information on this. I'm surprised as I think it could possibly be the 2nd most asked question on here behind the old issues with slow SMS delivery. Here a summary of my understanding.
A local Cell tower is used to provide My Location data. Not all locations can be automatically updated Using My Location but most (can be automatically updated by adding the location to a list. A data connection is required and you need to enable Google location services.
It is known behavour for the My Location to all of a sudden start working when you are out and about as your phone connects to a different cell tower in a different location. I for one cannot get My Location dataq in Cheltenham but when I go to Gloucester I can get around 4 different "locations" on my way to work.
There was talk that part of this might be related to multiple locations having the same name and this causing problems with My Location selecting the correct data from the Accuweather database.
Hope this helps a bit althoughn I doubt we will get a fix.
I cannot currently remember if people with different service providers have different behavours with this service.
I got the same problem after using the Sim Contacts Fix... Found out that the stupid update changed the connection and told it to use a proxy server! Check if ur phone did the same thing as mine!
I can get my updates no probs without 3g, have no 3g coverage at the house at all, but what I have found is that when the weather would not work properly, and was giving the wrong location, I logged onto google maps, got a gps fix, and now the weather gives a spot on location, a very small village, that i would doubt being in any database.
I reckon weather pulls the location from the gps fix in googlemaps...
Just a thought.........
kjettern said:
I got the same problem after using the Sim Contacts Fix... Found out that the stupid update changed the connection and told it to use a proxy server! Check if ur phone did the same thing as mine!
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I think that is a slightly differemt issue caussing a similar effect. This issue has been around since the firat HD2 was released and mostly related to MyLocation successfully updating when in one area and not in another, with the same connectivity settings.
Regards.
to OP...
I too have failed to find a proper resolution to the "connection error...".
I know it can work on my phone, as I've seen it work perfectly around Devon & Bournemouth, both indoors and outdoors.
IMHO, it's definately a problem with Accuweather's database, regardless of connection type.
I used Duttys Disable Current Location cab to switch the pointless thing off.
Maybe one day someone will find a way to make it work for everywhere.
pastypacker said:
I can get my updates no probs without 3g, have no 3g coverage at the house at all, but what I have found is that when the weather would not work properly, and was giving the wrong location, I logged onto google maps, got a gps fix, and now the weather gives a spot on location, a very small village, that i would doubt being in any database.
I reckon weather pulls the location from the gps fix in googlemaps...
Just a thought.........
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Hi,
Im interested. How do you get your weather updates? Are you using Wifi or do you believe that it is all done via GPS? Now a silly question, sorry. Do you now have your village as a defined location or is it only "My Location" that is automatically updating?
Regards.
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Hi,
Im interested. How do you get your weather updates? Are you using Wifi or do you believe that it is all done via GPS? Now a silly question, sorry. Do you now have your village as a defined location or is it only "My Location" that is automatically updating?
Regards.
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At home, im using wifi, thelocation im referring to is the one that shows on the home screen after update, the nearest defined location that can be searched for is over 60 miles away in Plymouth.
I will try a non wifi update when i walk the dog again later, and see what that brings.....
gdayhtc said:
just a question, you have problem with the connection only when you are trying to download weather update?
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Yes all other apps and data features work like a dream, including google maps,
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Yes all other apps and data features work like a dream, including google maps,
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well i have the same thing here...happens to me as well, i was thinking may be it is acuweather and our current location. Having said that i have not changed any thing in my 3 g connections. 50% of the tome works. so i am not really fussed about it
To the OP (and anyone), please also report this issue to HTC self via their website. If they know about this issue, maybe they can make a fix for it .
I had same problem and tried these:
Switched to airplane mode and wifi on. Tried update and successfully updated.
Switched to phone on wifi off. Tried update and not updated.
Removed all cities. Tried update for my location and successfully updated.
Added some cities. Tried update and not updated.
Weird
For me the weather location is working generally fine, even if often it doesn't recognize a town (smaller ones) and instead shows "My Location" instead of a name. The update is only working when I have EDGE or 3G coverage (or WiFi), not when only GPRS.
What is very strange for me is, that when not on WiFi (then all works fine), i.e. when on the phone network, it updates well some cities, and some won't (the ones which won't are two of the cities I added in the beginning to the list, i.e. Geneva and Nuremberg). All other cities I added work well for the updated. I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that I added them at a specific moment. When I deleted these cities and put them back in the list it won't help. I wonder if you can reset the weather program without making a hard reset, in order to see if it would help.
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Settings>connections>connections>advanced>select networks>edit (your gsm operator gprs/3g settings)>edit>next>next>advanced>servers
Select use specific server address and enter a dns . I'm using google dns 8.8.8.8.
Click OK>finish and yes to do you want to save changes. Click OK until connections window. Soft reset and try to update weather.
This happened to me when I removed JVH3 Weather City Editor.
once I reinstalled it, my error has gone away.
Ron
Have had the HD2 for a few weeks now, with no problems with weather. Went on holiday, came back, and getting the error as per this thread. Strangely it seemed like I was getting the update, then getting the error afterwards.
Spoke to my provider (T-mobile) who were next to useless (well that's unfair, I guess they suggested a lot of things but none worked).
Took out all cities from the application and updated - worked fine (and this was over GPRS as one of things T-mobile had me do was switch Band under phone settings (All Settings/Personal/Phone/GSM/UTMS Services/Band/Get Settings)).
Could it be as simple as an error in the weather data for ANY city causing the problem - not just your location? My location at home always seems to be detected fine...
Anyone else having Problems with my location not showing weather and saying Unable to download weather... The clock will work but i have to manually put a location in to get weather on my phone.
nardone24 said:
Anyone else having Problems with my location not showing weather and saying Unable to download weather... The clock will work but i have to manually put a location in to get weather on my phone.
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are you sure you have location services turned on in settings?
same problem
im also having that problem... i made sure all the location services are activated and still nothing
No other issues with data or cell reception/connection at that time?
V1R3Z said:
im also having that problem... i made sure all the location services are activated and still nothing
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if ur on the rom that came with the device ur the problem but if u moded the rom sayin u downloaded a rom from xda or members then u need to go back to the rom thread u downloaded ur rom from and let them in that rom help u and always remember to do a search before startin a new thread
Did my research, im on stock rom location services enabled. No reception problems
But thanx anyway...
Are you connected to a PC? If so try this
On the Windows Mobile Device Center window under Settings click Connection Settings. Then uncheck Allow data connections on device when connected to PC and select The Internet for This computer is connected to. I don't recall much about activesync, but I think it has something similar.
I ran into a similar issue and this solved it.
nardone24 said:
Did my research, im on stock rom location services enabled. No reception problems
But thanx anyway...
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It doesn’t work for me either. Actually, doesn’t work in Orlando area, but if I go to other cities here in Florida it does (on 3g or not)
The only way that I can make it to work here is turning on the wifi without connecting to any wifi, then turn it off and tap “ Uptade Now” or tap "update now" while the wifi is searching for connection.
ya i called t-mobile about this yesterday there sending me a replacement phone mybe its a hardware problem
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ya i called t-mobile about this yesterday there sending me a replacement phone mybe its a hardware problem
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Mmmm, I don't think it's a hardware problem, at least for me. It does work in other areas.
@ nardone, etc....are you all able to open google maps and get any localization there (either with or without satellites)?
On the few occassions I've had problems getting "my location" to update, it was cleared up as soon as I opened gmaps and got a full lock...so you can try that, at least make sure that it's not a hardware issue.
Hey, a fellow Orlando-an! I have the exact same problem with the My Location service here. I have Orlando put in as a manual location, and it updates every couple of hours as its supposed to. But for the My Location, it hasn't updated in 3 days.
Nothing more annoying than going outside in the blinding heat and sun to look down on your phone that says you are in the middle of a thunderstorm.
It doesn't seem to be a problem with the GPS or location system, as it updates my location fine(currently in Maitland, not Orlando, which is correct). But it doesn't download the weather for this location properly. Very troubling...
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Hey, a fellow Orlando-an! I have the exact same problem with the My Location service here. I have Orlando put in as a manual location, and it updates every couple of hours as its supposed to. But for the My Location, it hasn't updated in 3 days.
Nothing more annoying than going outside in the blinding heat and sun to look down on your phone that says you are in the middle of a thunderstorm.
It doesn't seem to be a problem with the GPS or location system, as it updates my location fine(currently in Maitland, not Orlando, which is correct). But it doesn't download the weather for this location properly. Very troubling...
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Go Magic!...
I'm not sure what's the problem. As I said it works on wifi and even when wifi is on and not connected to any network. It does work fine on Edge here in Orlando and also worked in 3G in Miami and Las Vegas.
I've been playing with it all afternoon at work(aren't they happy about that), and can't get it to update for the life of me. Tried turning on wifi, off and on HTC location service, disabling 3G, whatever I do it won't pull current weather data.
Maybe there just isn't anything to pull for Maitland, which is where I am at the moment, because the manual Orlando entry downloads fine. I wish there were a way to choose the location for my Cookie's hometab so it didn't show an incorrect thunderstorm.
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I've been playing with it all afternoon at work(aren't they happy about that), and can't get it to update for the life of me. Tried turning on wifi, off and on HTC location service, disabling 3G, whatever I do it won't pull current weather data.
Maybe there just isn't anything to pull for Maitland, which is where I am at the moment, because the manual Orlando entry downloads fine. I wish there were a way to choose the location for my Cookie's hometab so it didn't show an incorrect thunderstorm.
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Try Oviedo! lol j/k
There's actually an app around xda somewhere that lets you add cities that aren't in manila's database by default. I don't remember the exact location or name, but it works on multiple devices so it might just be in the general section. I'll try to look for it more when I get home later but you might find someone who remembers the name before I do, or just find it through searching.
It works!
For same reason that I don't know, my location is working fine today in Orlando, on 3G, H, and wifi...
Have you tried QuickGPS?? Works beautifully!!!!!
Make sure you have a data connection turned on... If you don't, it will not update automatically to your city or weather...
It looks like Google forced OEMs to ditch Skyhook, and, affording to this article, Samsung was involved. I wonder if Samsung scrambled to put together a quick fix before releasing the Galaxy S and this could explain the AGPS issues.
http://i.engadget.com/2010/09/17/skyhook-google-forced-motorola-to-drop-our-location-service-de/
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Isnt skyhook disabled by default? So how would this affect the GPS?
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Isnt skyhook disabled by default? So how would this affect the GPS?
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/17/skyhook-google-forced-motorola-to-drop-our-location-service-de/
Following that, Skyhook claims that Google then went after an unidentified "Company X" (likely Samsung) and forced it to drop XPS as well -- which would certainly explain why Samsung's Galaxy S phones have WiFi positioning turned off by default, unlike every other Android phone. Ouch.
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Skyhook is absolutely 100% unnecessary for a properly functioning gps. It has nothing to do with the problems on the Galaxy S devices.
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Just turn it back on. Go to *#*#1472365#*#*, application settings, scroll down to skyhook, select on. Then wifi positioning/AGPS should be on now. Its a shame its off by default.
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so what is this going to change if i enable skyhook?? should I enable skyhook??
Not sure if this is the same for everyone, but I can't seem to access the GPS settings using the *#*#1472365#*#* command - not sure when it started, but the one thing I did do between the last time I accessed the service (a few weeks back) to now is flashing the leaked firmware. Anyone else with this issue? I found the noted article yesterday and wanted to check to see if the Skyhook option was still there, and, of course, I can't tell.
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Not sure if this is the same for everyone, but I can't seem to access the GPS settings using the *#*#1472365#*#* command - not sure when it started, but the one thing I did do between the last time I accessed the service (a few weeks back) to now is flashing the leaked firmware. Anyone else with this issue? I found the noted article yesterday and wanted to check to see if the Skyhook option was still there, and, of course, I can't tell.
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That dialer code invoked a hidden app called LbsTestMode. The dialer code no longer works in the leaked ROM, but the hidden app is still there. It can be accessed by the workaround explained here, which does involve installing LauncherPro and setting up a shortcut.
Maybe Samsung rushed to market without thoroughly testing the GPS on the Galaxy phones after being told not to use Skyhook. It could have been integrated into their existing firmware. I don't know; I could be completely wrong on this, but I'm just throwing it out there to see what others think. I also can't access the GPS service menu on the new firmware. I haven't had major GPS issues to tell you the truth, but my brother has to launch GPS test to make his maps work on his Epic.
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Just turn it back on. Go to *#*#1472365#*#*, application settings, scroll down to skyhook, select on. Then wifi positioning/AGPS should be on now. Its a shame its off by default.
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Skyhook has nothing to do with aGPS. It is a non-GPS method of location service based on a map of all the WiFi routers and access points out there. The Skyhook company has a bunch of people who wardrive and collect the data to populate its database, then offers the service to carriers for a fee.
However, the same hidden utility (LbsTestMode) whose menu can be used to enable Skyhook also can be used to enable aGPS. Selecting MS Based mode instead of the default Standalone mode is what would do that. This controls the operation of the satellite based GPS, accelerating the download of certain satellite data over the network. It is entirely independent of Skyhook.
Enabling MS Based aGPS makes obvious sense. It is an established industry standard for GPS operation on cellphones. The merits of Skyhook are another question, and I don't really have an informed opinion.
Thanks for the link. You can actually do the same thing in ADW (which is what I use), just choose "Custom Shortcut" and then "Activities" and you can scroll don to LbsTestMode. I like it when solutions are right in front of my face
So do you need to leave your WiFi on all the time when enabling Skyhook? That would drain your battery even faster...
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Thanks for the link. You can actually do the same thing in ADW (which is what I use), just choose "Custom Shortcut" and then "Activities" and you can scroll don to LbsTestMode. I like it when solutions are right in front of my face
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Thanks for this, never knew I could do that with ADW
I've always had Skyhook turned off and yet when connected to my WiFi network I get a highly accurate position, even with GPS turned off. Thoughts?
jjohns63 said:
I've always had Skyhook turned off and yet when connected to my WiFi network I get a highly accurate position, even with GPS turned off. Thoughts?
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Your position would be coming from your GPS or from cellphone tower triangulation, depending on your other settings, whether you use WiFi or not.
Skyhook would looking for all the other WiFi locations around you that are in its database. Those locations might include your local WiFI router along with everyone else's if Shyhook's wardivers found it. But Skyhook would not actually connect to those WiFi sources. It would only detect them.
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Your position would be coming from your GPS or from cellphone tower triangulation, depending on your other settings, whether you use WiFi or not.
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I know this is not the case as the accuracy circle in maps covers maybe half a block, not a mile. As I said, I had disabled the GPS, and cell tower triangulation is not that accurate, especially where I am with low signal.
Skyhook would looking for all the other WiFi locations around you that are in its database. Those locations might include your local WiFI router along with everyone else's if Shyhook's wardivers found it. But Skyhook would not actually connect to those WiFi sources. It would only detect them.
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This makes sense because I tested it today without actually connecting to a network and it still found my location to the same "wifi accuracy". I had turned on Skyhook for this test. However, I'm still wondering how it was able to find my location with Skyhook turned off.
Skyhook is one company providing a service of mapping access points to locations. Google uses their own - probably picked up from Google maps car.
If you have "use wireless networks" checked under GPS - it will use this other provider (probably google) and not skyhook.
Ive turned skyhook on and off in testmode as well as trying other settings, gps is still bag of suck.Frankly i get better results with it on. Marginal though.BTW.use the lbs test mode app. It'll save you alot of headaches.
Vibrant vibrating nicely now,Kthx!
So this past week I was having tons of issues with the cell-tower triangulation on my Nexus One. I've tried multiple things such as restarting, toggling the "Use Network Location" and mostly everything short of resetting the phone to factory default.
So I was playing around in the Applications menu and decided to just mess around with all the items there. Then, after clearing the cache on the "Google Framework" option, force closing, then restarting my phone, I was finally able to get cell phone triangulation working again!
The problem continues though, because after said procedure I was unable to access the market, or the downloaded section of the store only had 2 items listed. So I did another restart, the market works, but the cellphone triangulation breaks again.
Does anyone have a solution?
well sounds like somethings haywire on the software side of things, i'd try a factory reset/reflashing your current rom etc. or you could just use GPS i suppose
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The problem continues though, because after said procedure I was unable to access the market, or the downloaded section of the store only had 2 items listed. So I did another restart, the market works, but the cellphone triangulation breaks again.
Does anyone have a solution?
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Market problems are generally due to the ROM you're using, although most cooks have that sorted immediately. What ROM are you using?
And I've never heard of anyone anything on the Framework, maybe that in itself was kind of dumb? Have you rebooted or such to see if it clears up?
So what is the issue anyway? Where are you observing that cell tower info isn't working? And you've double checked, and maybe toggled off/on the setting for this?
OP, does triangulation work for you on EDGE?
I've been in this state (2G triangulation works but 3G does not) for about two weeks now.
Most probably a T-Mobile or Google data base issue...
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OP, does triangulation work for you on EDGE?
I've been in this state (2G triangulation works but 3G does not) for about two weeks now.
Most probably a T-Mobile or Google data base issue...
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This is true, at one point T-Mobile and 3G the lookups didn't work.. but I haven't heard this in a long time so I'd think
I really wish people would stop referring to it a "triangulation" though, it's estimation based on tower location and possibly data from Cell+Wifi+GPS data that Google has collected. There's no calculation going on.
I am glad someone brought this up. I thought it was just me.
'Estimation' works with EDGE on, but not otherwise. If EDGE is off, Google Maps takes me to the last estimated position!
I am sure something is broken in Maps.
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This is true, at one point T-Mobile and 3G the lookups didn't work.. but I haven't heard this in a long time so I'd think
I really wish people would stop referring to it a "triangulation" though, it's estimation based on tower location and possibly data from Cell+Wifi+GPS data that Google has collected. There's no calculation going on.
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OK, I believe accurate terminology would be "multilateration"
(there is an excellent Wiki article on this) which in turn is based on triangulation. The calculation is done either by the network, e.g. T-Mobile, or by Google based on the location of nearby towers...
I have the same problem as the OP. It occured since Tuesday of last week. I am also on Rogers in the Toronto and GTA region. Use wireless networks is checked under settings. The Enable location setting in the browser is also checked. However, when using 3G, location is unavailable when using the browser and it is also unavailable in the news and weather widget. RadioTime does not pick up my location either. In addition, when I travel into Toronto, the location in google maps is not updated to my new tower location. The location remains in Markham. Strange thing is that when I am on WIFI, location is available. I have tried using EDGE, same problem. I have also tried resetting to factory settings but no luck. I can confirm one of my coworkers is getting the same problem also on his N1. I don't think it is Rogers' problem since iPhone and Maemo users are having no trouble for location service on Rogers. I don't see how it is a problem on Google's servers either if location service is working for users of other OS. However, I don't know if any other Android devices on Rogers are having the same issues though. Can other Rogers users, Big 3 users, Wind/Mobilicity users confirm if their N1's are having the same issues? On a side note, my N1 is stock.
As far as the ROM/Phone. I am using the official FRG83D without any root or modifications to the firmware/bootloader.
It would not pick me up using Edge/wifi/3G and the only thing that did work was GPS. The weird thing is, it appears to be some issue with a service on the phone. The reason why I believe this is because if I went on the mobile Google, the page didn't ask me for permission to access my location.
After I cleared the cache on "Google Framework" and rebooted, everything worked fine and the browser asked me for my permission.
As madballs mentioned, it doesn't seem to be a Rogers issue as I was able to pop the sim card in my XPERIA and it was able to locate me just fine.
After going insane and going without sleep for the past 30 hours, I have linked the issue with the update to Google Goggles. Got rid of the update, location now works fine.
My N1's tower based estimation works ok on Solo (Bell's network). The estimatation is not as good as my Nokia N85 when I put the same SIM card in...
So I got into work today and same thing happened. The location services does not recognize that I am now in Toronto and not Markham. However, I tried out what the OP suggested and cleared the cache in the Google Services Framework and restarted the N1. It then recognized I am now in Toronto. This is quite strange. What does Google Services Framework do? And why would it not update when I travel into another location? It only stopped working last week. I will see if it changes back to Markham tonight when I get off work tonight. If it doesn't work, I will try deleting the Google Goggles update.
Same issues here ...
I am stock FRG83G on Rogers in southern Ontario. Been having this issue for a while but never bothered to look into it. I tried some of the tricks in this thread and here are the results:
- went to 2G - no improvement
- removed updates from Google Goggles and rebooted - no improvement
- Cleared cache and force stopped the Google Services Framework and rebooted and location is working.
I will edit this note if anything changes.
Update: Looks like clearing the framework loses your history of free downloads from the Market ... the paid items are still there.
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I am stock FRG83G on Rogers in southern Ontario. Been having this issue for a while but never bothered to look into it. I tried some of the tricks in this thread and here are the results:
- went to 2G - no improvement
- removed updates from Google Goggles and rebooted - no improvement
- Cleared cache and force stopped the Google Services Framework and rebooted and location is working.
I will edit this note if anything changes.
Update: Looks like clearing the framework loses your history of free downloads from the Market ... the paid items are still there.
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Oops.. But try this, launch AppBrain, sync, then exit Appbrain and try the market again. I noticed by accident once after restoring all apps using Titanium Backup that before I went into Appbrain the Market didn't know about my installed apps and afterwords it did.
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If you restart again, the Market will work correctly again, but the location services will break.
Same issue here on stock FRG83D since November 15.
I've tried both Rogers and Fido SIM cards. I've also done a factory reset and rolled google maps back. Nothing seems to resolve the issue so I've resorted to enabling GPS when it's available.
The same thing started happening to a friend's Acer Liquid E running 2.2 earlier this week. After clearing the maps data on their phone the positioning worked as expected once again but latitude isn't providing the correct location.
Today my N1 refused to update its position. After clearing the maps data it started to work properly.
Both phones are on Rogers and being used from Hamilton to Toronto...
Quick update. As I mentioned on post #11, I had to clear the Google Services Framework cache this morning before the N1 recognized I have left Markham and arrived in Toronto. I am in Markham now, and the N1 automatically recognized I am back in Markham now. Honestly, I have no clue what the problem is. As I stated, I have reset to factory setting a couple times the past week. I would tend to believe by reseting to factory setting is equivalent to clearing the cache. However it did not work then. So I dont know how by clearing the Google Services cache would work today. May be it is just a coincident. I will post again tomorrow when I am back in Toronto and see if the N1 recognizes the location by itself. Oh right, another thing tried was putting my friend's SIM card (he has a iPhone 3GS) into my phone, but no luck. I didn't bother giving him my SIM card to try since another poster on here said his SIM card works on his XPERIA.
beermike: Location services wasn't working for me on November 16th. Right before Eric Schmidt made his Gingerbread comment actually. I wish this hinted that Gingerbread was coming but then it's only us Rogers/Fido users having the problem.
P.S. This is probably not a Rogers issue. But I have to say, Rogers sucks. Too bad I'm on a corporate plan with them.
EDIT: I found another thread that some AT&T folks had this same issue back in May http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679636
Restarted phone yesterday night and location services is not working today again.
I believe the correct term all of you gentlemen are looking for is "A-GPS" or "Assisted GPS".
Per the issue, are these results being achieved with the GPS hardware setting turned OFF, and the mobile network/AGPS turned ON, or are both of these settings turned on and still unable to find an accurate position?
j.bruha said:
I believe the correct term all of you gentlemen are looking for is "A-GPS" or "Assisted GPS".
Per the issue, are these results being achieved with the GPS hardware setting turned OFF, and the mobile network/AGPS turned ON, or are both of these settings turned on and still unable to find an accurate position?
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No, it's NOT assisted GPS as that includes the GPS, yes? As mentioned, it's more of this nature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilateration
A-GPS is when your cellular provider offers the phone ephemeris data which reduces the amount of time the phone has to calculate the satellite positions and improves accuracy and the ability to maintain a fix because the phone already knows where the satellites are without downloading such data directly from the sats themselves. And in this case of course you're using the GPS, not an estimated location based on your nearby cell towers.
Assuming tower location is correct (and KNOWN...), if you only have one visible tower you should basically show up as being at or near that tower. If there are multiple towers, some set of parameters allows some estimation or predetermined location based on the results. I've read multiple times in the past that when the GPS is in use on a cellphone and My Location (what Google calls the cell tower location stuff of course) is in use, it will upload anonymous data to improve their database. There are multiple such databases, although most of them would only place you at the known location of the tower and not take into account multiple 'visible' towers.
Here's an OpenCellID lookup: http://www.opencellid.org/cell/get?mcc=310&mnc=410&lac=15913&cellid=50762 If you look closely, directly east, across the shopping center there and just into what looks like a bit of an industrial work area there's a square patch with a shadowy place; that's the tower it's referring to.
The GPS on my Nexus 7 is acting funky. I'm in Florida, and all of my apps are saying I'm in Vegas. Sometimes it'll show my correct location, but then it'll change back to saying I'm in Vegas. This is happening with Google maps, HD widgets, flixster, etc.. It's quite annoying. I haven't done anything to my N7 except unlock the bootloader, but it was doing it out of the box before that. What the French toast!? Anyone else having this happen? My GNex is fine with the same apps.
I tested mine to see if it would tell me where radio shack was. It worked and navigated good. It even told me the driving time to 3 of the nearest stores and traffic reports lol pretty crazy. I'd send it back for a replacement.
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Clienterror said:
I tested mine to see if it would tell me where radio shack was. It worked and navigated good. It even told me the driving time to 3 of the nearest stores and traffic reports lol pretty crazy. I'd send it back for a replacement.
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Man, I just went to Sam's Club to exchange it. Got home, set it up, and my apps (google maps, HD widgets, google now) are showing Vegas still instead of my city in Florida. Ugh!!!
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Man, I just went to Sam's Club to exchange it. Got home, set it up, and my apps (google maps, HD widgets, google now) are showing Vegas still instead of my city in Florida. Ugh!!!
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Are you sure you're not in Vegas?
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Are you sure you're not in Vegas?
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Haha. Would be nice, but I'm not Could it be WiFi related? It seems that when I turn WiFi off, I shows my correct location in Florida and not Vegas. I don't know how/why the WiFi would interfere but not it's correct.
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Haha. Would be nice, but I'm not Could it be WiFi related? It seems that when I turn WiFi off, I shows my correct location in Florida and not Vegas. I don't know how/why the WiFi would interfere but not it's correct.
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Did you check at the store or at home? Can you drive a few miles away and see if anything changes? Just a shot in a dark, but I work with address mapping online and sometimes for some reason the address for a certain location is totally wrong.
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Did you check at the store or at home? Can you drive a few miles away and see if anything changes? Just a shot in a dark, but I work with address mapping online and sometimes for some reason the address for a certain location is totally wrong.
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With my original N7 and the new one that I exchanged for, I checked at home, and I haven't tried it anywhere besides at home. If I drive somewhere, I guess I would have to find a place with Wifi. I have a GNex, and it doesn't have the issue. It always shows the correct location. Not too long ago, I disconnected from WiFi on the N7 and it shows the correct location. So I don't know if WiFi is the culprit for some bizarre reason.
Download the map of your city and take a little drive. See if your GPS acts up away from. You can make sections of a map available offline in the Google maps menu.
Does this issue happen if you turn off wifi and enable GPS? Reason I ask is I remember Google Latitude acting super strange when I was using the wifi for it to determine my location when I was at my girlfriend's house. For a while it said I was in New York City, other times it said I was within PA but I was about 30 miles away. At one point it said I was in Africa somewhere.
All of the wireless towers (3G, 4G, etc) have ID's to them, so based on the ID that gets reported to the carrier is what dictates where on the map you are. That said, wireless access points aren't typically in the database to determine your location, so it uses some other sort of wacky way to determine your location, but like I said, Google Latitude was acting up. I remember hitting "improve my location" within the app and letting it run overnight to see if it could better determine my location. Oddly, I never had a chance to see if it fixed it, because the next morning our bid was accepted on a house so we ended up worrying about packing rather than did my phone work better. I just wanted to throw the above on the table just in case... turn off wifi... try GPS... see what happens.
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Does this issue happen if you turn off wifi and enable GPS? Reason I ask is I remember Google Latitude acting super strange when I was using the wifi for it to determine my location when I was at my girlfriend's house. For a while it said I was in New York City, other times it said I was within PA but I was about 30 miles away. At one point it said I was in Africa somewhere.
All of the wireless towers (3G, 4G, etc) have ID's to them, so based on the ID that gets reported to the carrier is what dictates where on the map you are. That said, wireless access points aren't typically in the database to determine your location, so it uses some other sort of wacky way to determine your location, but like I said, Google Latitude was acting up. I remember hitting "improve my location" within the app and letting it run overnight to see if it could better determine my location. Oddly, I never had a chance to see if it fixed it, because the next morning our bid was accepted on a house so we ended up worrying about packing rather than did my phone work better. I just wanted to throw the above on the table just in case... turn off wifi... try GPS... see what happens.
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Yeah, I mentioned somewhere in the thread that if I turn off WiFi, it seems to work fine. GPS is always on with it anyway. Either way, it should be able to pinpoint me. What's the point of the N7 if you can't keep WiFi on? Having both WiFi and GPS on should be able to find my location. I haven't really seen anyone else with this issue in trying to google it. It's just weird though because my GNex works perfect at home. And I can't get the N7 tablet to get the right location? Just odd.
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I'm in Lethbridge Alberta. ( Canada) Mine works fine in location and latitude... also Google Now works (when its giving me weather changes in the morning)
However, as soon as I ask Google Search "what's the weather like today", it tells me the weather for Washington and its driving me up the wall. Anybody else in Canada having the Same issues?
I believe there is a setting somewhere that has a check box "use Wi-Fi to determine my position". You need to find it and un-check the box. I would venture a guess that your internet service provider has a hub in Vegas and your outside IP address is registered through that facility.
Edit: turn Google Location Services OFF... Settings>>Location Services
Mine is showing Vegas also, oh I am in Vegas.
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It's probably due to the MAC address of the wireless router(s) your Nexus 7 is seeing. My parents live in Oregon and my step-mom works for a company based in San Diego. They sent her a remote access point to telecommute with and while I was visiting last year my Atrix would see me as being in Oregon when I was in view of a GPS satellite but otherwise, when it could only rely on WiFi for determining my location, it would see me in San Diego due to the remote access point having been in San Diego previously. So... don't worry about it! Your router/modem/whatever or your neighbor's may have been in Vegas previously at some other person's house.
Android Location Services periodically checks on your location using GPS, Cell-ID, and Wi-Fi to locate your device. When it does this, your Android device will send back publicly broadcast Wi-Fi access points' Service set identifier (SSID) and Media Access Control (MAC) data. The Google street car does this sort of thing too; collects Wi-Fi access points' data and MAC addresses, then associates them with their GPS location data.
What this means simply is that Google knows where you are when you are connected to an SSID they have previously collected location data on. For whatever reason, Google's data regarding your SSID is that it's location is somewhere in Vegas. I imagine this to be something that would remedy itself in time, though I'm not sure what the quick fix is. Maybe if you go in and out of range of your router with GPS on, the association will reset with the new location data? Are you set up to send anonymous location data back to Google?
There's nothing wrong with your GPS though.
Thanks everyone for the feedback. These last couple replies seem logical. When I turn off Google location services, my GPS works fine. What stinks is that, Google location services is required for Google Now. Has to be something with my Wifi router.
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I'm in Lethbridge Alberta. ( Canada) Mine works fine in location and latitude... also Google Now works (when its giving me weather changes in the morning)
However, as soon as I ask Google Search "what's the weather like today", it tells me the weather for Washington and its driving me up the wall. Anybody else in Canada having the Same issues?
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I believe there is a setting somewhere that has a check box "use Wi-Fi to determine my position". You need to find it and un-check the box. I would venture a guess that your internet service provider has a hub in Vegas and your outside IP address is registered through that facility.
Edit: turn Google Location Services OFF... Settings>>Location Services
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I don't think this is the problem because I've tried, my phone (Rogers, originally registered in Calgary) as a hot spot, my house, my friends house, my work's wifi. All of these respond to any Non-location-specified operation to Washington. i.e. If i asked what time it was, it will give me washington's time. Same with weather, Washington weather. Im living in Canada. Is this a Canada specific problem maybe?
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I don't think this is the problem because I've tried, my phone (Rogers, originally registered in Calgary) as a hot spot, my house, my friends house, my work's wifi. All of these respond to any Non-location-specified operation to Washington. i.e. If i asked what time it was, it will give me washington's time. Same with weather, Washington weather. Im living in Canada. Is this a Canada specific problem maybe?
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Nope, I'm having the same issue and I'm in the US. With "Google location services" and enabled, mine jumps back and forth between my actual location and the main floor of the "ny, ny" casino in Vegas. I have 3 other Android devices sitting near me that have never had an issue.
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Nope, I'm having the same issue and I'm in the US. With "Google location services" and enabled, mine jumps back and forth between my actual location and the main floor of the "ny, ny" casino in Vegas. I have 3 other Android devices sitting near me that have never had an issue.
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Yep, that's why I started this thread. Mine says I'm in the "NY,NY" casino in Vegas as well, and I'm in Florida.
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Android Location Services periodically checks on your location using GPS, Cell-ID, and Wi-Fi to locate your device. When it does this, your Android device will send back publicly broadcast Wi-Fi access points' Service set identifier (SSID) and Media Access Control (MAC) data. The Google street car does this sort of thing too; collects Wi-Fi access points' data and MAC addresses, then associates them with their GPS location data.
What this means simply is that Google knows where you are when you are connected to an SSID they have previously collected location data on. For whatever reason, Google's data regarding your SSID is that it's location is somewhere in Vegas. I imagine this to be something that would remedy itself in time, though I'm not sure what the quick fix is. Maybe if you go in and out of range of your router with GPS on, the association will reset with the new location data? Are you set up to send anonymous location data back to Google?
There's nothing wrong with your GPS though.
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I guess I'm confused about this because I have both my N7 and GNex connected to my wireless router at home. I've had my GNex since it came out and have not had this issue with it. My router only has one SSID, right? And both of my devices are connected to it with only the N7 having the issue. And again it's only when "Google Location Services" is checked. It stinks to have to turn it off because "Google Now" requires it to be checked.