So i bought a LG G3. And i hoped that it would be open for roms and so on. But It's not. Totally locked Down. At least the international Version.
And my girlfriend has a S4. So.. I have thouht about maybe trading With her. So i could install custom roms and have some fun et cetra.
But Im not sure yet. Seeing the hardware is somewhat different i cant make up my mind.
So I'm asking here. Would it be a worthy trade?
Or would it totally blow?
I know the S5 is out and everything. But I dont need that extra. And dont want to buy another phone really.
So Thoughts?
Don't
I am just stating my personal preference, although I think many people would tell you the same.
Keep your LG G3. I have a Galaxy S4 and I have experimented with some popular roms and kernels. It is fun and you discover a lot of interesting features specific to some roms. But you know what? Now I'm back to a near-stock ROM called hyperdrive, and if I want to go back to stock, I would do it without hesitation. You see...Samsung manufactures my Galaxy S4, and develops the software specifically for it. LG manufactures your LG G3, and develops the software for that specific device. So, in most cases, the stock ROM is the perfect one for your device, and OEMs(Samsung, LG) provide you with content that can only run on your ROM. In my case, the custom ROMs had awesome features, but the also had bugs no matter how long i waited, and the photos I took were not that great compared to the stock ROM. Besides, when I am on the stock ROM I can run a program by Samsung called SideSync which mirrors my device's screen onto my non-Samsung PC, pretty awesome right? In addition, the Galaxy S4 is not as nearly good-looking, premium, and feature-packed as your LG G3.
So I suggest you keep your G3, but root it(in case you haven't yet) and install some xposed modules which are going to give you more features than you need. That is what I would do.
It won't be a worthy trade. It would totally blow.
I agree and furthermore, G3 is really powerfull, much more than S4 and its camera is far better.
After all S4 is last year model and can be compared to G2 not to G3.
Also price is very different, G3 about 600€ when I just bought my S4 for 298€!!!
This said, S4 is a GREAT device, but G3 is far better. Keep it
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I am just stating my personal preference, although I think many people would tell you the same.
Keep your LG G3. I have a Galaxy S4 and I have experimented with some popular roms and kernels. It is fun and you discover a lot of interesting features specific to some roms. But you know what? Now I'm back to a near-stock ROM called hyperdrive, and if I want to go back to stock, I would do it without hesitation. You see...Samsung manufactures my Galaxy S4, and develops the software specifically for it. LG manufactures your LG G3, and develops the software for that specific device. So, in most cases, the stock ROM is the perfect one for your device, and OEMs(Samsung, LG) provide you with content that can only run on your ROM. In my case, the custom ROMs had awesome features, but the also had bugs no matter how long i waited, and the photos I took were not that great compared to the stock ROM. Besides, when I am on the stock ROM I can run a program by Samsung called SideSync which mirrors my device's screen onto my non-Samsung PC, pretty awesome right? In addition, the Galaxy S4 is not as nearly good-looking, premium, and feature-packed as your LG G3.
So I suggest you keep your G3, but root it(in case you haven't yet) and install some xposed modules which are going to give you more features than you need. That is what I would do.
It won't be a worthy trade. It would totally blow.
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I have to somewhat disagree with that. I could never get myself to like Samsung's TouchWiz. Instead, I've now been running CM11 for a while, and I could not be happier. That said, if I had the choice, I would also have kept the G3. It's not always that easy to find a custom ROM that you would be willing to stick with in the long run, and like Zheen said, you can now get many of the advantages previously only found in custom ROMs using xposed. Not to mention the improved hardware the G3 has over the S4.
Lastly, there is also always a (tiny) chance the G3 community might after some time find a way to bypass the locked bootloader (Loki & etc). After all, this has happened to other popular models before.
keep your G3 , before or after Handy custom roms , it's a very new model so be patient with him. besides , it's a real missile, no ?? you want most ???
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Hello everyone. I don't have that many posts here, but please don't let that reflect me lol. I tend to trade phones a lot. I currently have a Verizon S4...I like the phone, but I am on the latest MK2 firmware...Here just recently, SafeStrap has became available. However, there is really 1 ROM that works right, and is stable, and that is Hyperdrive. Hyperdrive is a great ROM, I am not bashing at all. It's just not my cup of tea. In the past I have been a huge fan of Eclipse. Eclipse is not working with Safestrap at this time...I have had this phone for a couple of months, and it sucks waiting week after week hoping devs have made progress...Anywho, what can you guys tell me about the Note 3?
If I went to Verizon and picked one up, am I going to be able to root it and install a variety of roms, or am I going to be stuck like I am with the S4?
If I am going to be stuck like I am now, then that is definately going to make me choose a different phone. If so, could someone recommend one? I have been a huge fan of the Samsung phones here recently since the S3 and Note 2. I really liked my Note 2. I also really like Motorola's...They are durable phones, and safestrap is nice...Here recently SafeStrap has became available for Samsungs which is awesome.
Heads up !!the powers that be will move this thread to the q&a section.... but to answer if you want to crack flash...note 3 is not for you.....maybe moto x, or if you want a bigger device the Lg g2 has some good development.
One thing about the note3 is that you should be able to deal with the phone( stock )....and rooting it just to de bloat and themeing. The phone Is quick and Imo the spen and touchwiz are essential to this device! so asop roms are not happening.
hope this helps...good luck...
p.s. still stock Un rooted and kicking ass... coming from gnex!
You can checkout the ROMs section in the Note 3 forum to see the available ROMs. I come from an S3 and the choice of ROMs there was ample. Note 3 however has very few ROMs as opposed to the S3. However, the ones that are there are pretty good. I am on Beans ROM and it gives me everything that I want.
One important thing for me is the ability to use the PEN (Along with all the apps, SPEN, Scrap book etc). Beans gives me full features as far as the pen is concerned. I guess there are other ROMs as well that do it (Hyperdrive). But any new "Original" ROM development that happens for the Note 3, might have some limitations. if you are not a big user of the PEN, then it might not matter to you.
Nutshell, I love my Note 3 and the fact that I am running a non-stock ROM on it. Hope this helps.
Thanks guys! Well I glanced through the roms, but I don't know what firmware the note 2 comes with if I was to go get one right now. That being said, I wasn't sure if the one that it came with is rootable, or if it is locked tight like the s4...One rom specifically that I am looking for on the note 3 would be eclips....Without doing a bunch of research, I figured it would be easiest to just open a thread an ask, that way I got accurate information.
Oops, sorry about using the wrong forum.
most of what is considered roms these days are actually themes applied over the top of a stock rom. Those hundreds of roms you see for the S3 and Note2 can be easily achieved yourself with a couple of apps and a bit of know how. The Note3 has everything one needs. If you buy retail you can use safestrap and flash touchwiz roms only. If you buy a Developer Device, then you can flash AOSP or Touchwiz since the bootloader is unlocked. Also most everything in the T-mobile section N3 is compatible with the VZW DE N3, so there is actually alot of development going on if you look in the right places and do not expect silver spoon feeding on a platinum platter.
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most of what is considered roms these days are actually themes applied over the top of a stock rom. Those hundreds of roms you see for the S3 and Note2 can be easily achieved yourself with a couple of apps and a bit of know how. The Note3 has everything one needs. If you buy retail you can use safestrap and flash touchwiz roms only. If you buy a Developer Device, then you can flash AOSP or Touchwiz since the bootloader is unlocked. Also most everything in the T-mobile section N3 is compatible with the VZW DE N3, so there is actually alot of development going on if you look in the right places and do not expect silver spoon feeding on a platinum platter.
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Thanks, I appreciate the help. I wasn't expecting to be spoon fed anything. I just don't get a good grasp on whats going on and have the device in my hand. I wanted to make sure that I could do what I was wanting to do with it before I went and bought this phone. I guess my one last question is, what is the firmware that will come with it, or what is the latest I should ask. Just so that I can check on my rom options.
Reason why I am asking this, is because the S4 was kind of confusing at first because devs are making mk2 roms, but they aren't working with ss...There are some other things as well, but thats beside the point. lol.
Moving to Q and A and closing... Best any more discussion goes here..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466108
Ive got to buy a new device, am stuck between LG G2, Samsung NOTE 3, and Nexus 5, The Nexus has sub-par battery life, and mediocre camera and no Infrared, the Note 3 has many features, the LG G2 is quite excellent as well, but I want a phone with excellent hardware and excellent development/custom ROMs, So keeping that in view, which device do you suggest I buy? I dont think LG G2 is getting the support it deserves from devs, do you think its development is going to reach a dead end soon?
Dev on the whole is excellent. Custom roms are not as plentiful but all of bigger aosp roms are here. Not sure what you're trying to ask...
Coming from the S3 (Verizon) and S4 (t-mobile) I have to say development is more low key. BUT I love the phone, the Roms are excellent, and I can use Roms from AT&T, Verizon and the international (D802) phones. So it balances out. I have no regrets and look forward to the G3.
As much as I like the G2, I do not think I would recommend this phone for someone who wants try diffferent "working" custom ROMS. When it was jellybean only ROMS things were looking pretty good with ROMS based of stock base 4.2.2 or even the Flex & G Pro 2 4.2.2 ports. It seems that KitKat has brought everything to a halt, and while I am sure devs do their best, roms based on aosp/cm, stock, ported have take it or leave it type bugs i.e. auto-rotate, losing network selection, mms issues, etc. I imagine with time these issues may be overcome, all bets are open if this will happen before the next version of Android is released or even before the G3/Nexus6 is released. I personally would wait for the Nexus 6 and see what hardware that phone offers. Good Luck with choice.
I should add, it seems that some issues are caused by slight differences in the G2 phones. Some people get the white lines and others can not flash any rom without major issues, most just return those back to store I guess.
Can anybody please help with a quick answer?
In a nutshell I still torn between the S5 and HTC M8 (buying tonight) and needed to know what I can do with the S5 as far as root and custom ROMs go.
I think the S5 is better than the M8 however the locked bootloader plain sux and there are plenty of recoveries and ROMs for the M8.
I certainly prefer the VZW S5 if I can at least root it and maybe install a custom rom or even plain KitKat if needed. I can always wait for a custom recovery.
Is that possible as of now?
Thanks in advance!
Hawk600 said:
Can anybody please help with a quick answer?
In a nutshell I still torn between the S5 and HTC M8 (buying tonight) and needed to know what I can do with the S5 as far as root and custom ROMs go.
I think the S5 is better than the M8 however the locked bootloader plain sux and there are plenty of recoveries and ROMs for the M8.
I certainly prefer the VZW S5 if I can at least root it and maybe install a custom rom or even plain KitKat if needed. I can always wait for a custom recovery.
Is that possible as of now?
Thanks in advance!
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If you really like rooting your device and such, i suggest the S5.
I believe there are recoveries available but currently there are no plain kitkat roms for the S5.
HTC has all these S-on, locked bootloader and stuff that makes it a hassle to root.
It is also a hassle to return HTC devices to factory spec.
Hardware wise I think the S5 is a better choice. it isn't stupidly tall, doesn't have on screen keys, doesn't have an exterior that scratches and dents, doesnt have a 4MP sensor that performs VERY inconsistently.
I'll admit HTC has better software, but software can be changed, hardware cannot be changed.
Hellscythe said:
If you really like rooting your device and such, i suggest the S5.
I believe there are recoveries available but currently there are no plain kitkat roms for the S5.
HTC has all these S-on, locked bootloader and stuff that makes it a hassle to root.
It is also a hassle to return HTC devices to factory spec.
Hardware wise I think the S5 is a better choice. it isn't stupidly tall, doesn't have on screen keys, doesn't have an exterior that scratches and dents, doesnt have a 4MP sensor that performs VERY inconsistently.
I'll admit HTC has better software, but software can be changed, hardware cannot be changed.
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Thank you, I liked the HTC but got the S5 for the same reasons you pointed out, however is Verizon version and as far as I know there is no root for it yet.
Well I believe it will be unlocked at some point...just need some patience.
Thanks again!
Hi, just wondering what's up. I'd kill for CM12 or 13 on my brand new a5 2016.. what gives?
thanks!
We waited more than a year for the A5 2015 edition to get roms, and there are only about 2 serious developers working on it. It is likely that you will get very little to zero support for your phone, even less if you have the Exynos variant. If you want big custom rom support, buy a flagship or a Nexus. That is the best thing you can do. And what I have realised is before you buy a new phone, first search the XDA forums to see which is more popular and which have the most support.
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We waited more than a year for the A5 2015 edition to get roms, and there are only about 2 serious developers working on it. It is likely that you will get very little to zero support for your phone, even less if you have the Exynos variant. If you want big custom rom support, buy a flagship or a Nexus. That is the best thing you can do. And what I have realised is before you buy a new phone, first search the XDA forums to see which is more popular and which have the most support.
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Hey bro, I'm waiting too for any custom rom on my a3 2016, coz i'm getting sick of using laggy and bad looking touchwiz.
Please Devs, do smething for our devices....
I've always used CM or CM-based custom roms on all my phones, but (never thought I would say this) I'm quite liking TouchWiz. Everything works, no bugs. Good stock apps like calendar, camera and email. Theme engine is good enough. Unbelievable battery life.
Just root, install xposed, and you're good.
SimboXXX said:
I've always used CM or CM-based custom roms on all my phones, but (never thought I would say this) I'm quite liking TouchWiz. Everything works, no bugs. Good stock apps like calendar, camera and email. Theme engine is good enough. Unbelievable battery life.
Just root, install xposed, and you're good.
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:good: Absolutely right! And if you don't like TouchWiz you can use other launchers ... - I think the A5 is one of the best phones I ever bought and do not see the need to use a custom rom.
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:good: Absolutely right! And if you don't like TouchWiz you can use other launchers ... - I think the A5 is one of the best phones I ever bought and do not see the need to use a custom rom.
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agree. I have used kf rom for several weeks . but now back to the stock rom
You can port CM by yourself. There are a lot of porting guides on the internet, but... there aren't developers because there aren't much people with that device, maybe later there will be some developer with that phone or maybe not. As jnvdh06 said u have to buy a nexus if you want lots of roms, because google release all sources
Hi,
I hope one of you kind people could help point me in the right direction for some advice on custom ROMs for (UK version of) the Galaxy S8, how they affect performance etc, and where I might start learning more...?
Current situation
I've had a OP3T since launch and have come to the conclusion that even though it's a great phone (IMO) it's just too big/heavy and I want something smaller.
Ideal solution
Buy a second-hand/cheap S8, wipe it, install a custom ROM that's as close to "stock" Android as possible (I'm really nit a fan of Samsung's software and I'll likely have better support/updates etc from a community supported ROM than Samsung themselves)
Questions/concerns
I'm quite confused by the potential differences between the UK model (Exynos) and the Snapdragon model and how that might affect my plans etc?
What would be a good ROM that would deliver a stock Android experience whilst also being as bug free as possible, still retain things like great camera performance, good battery/performance balance, all "main" functions supported (fingerprint, GPS, BT etc)?
Finally, what are your thoughts on my idea? Is it "wrong"? Should I be looking elsewhere? What am I not aware of etc?
Thanks in advance if you take the time to help - it'll be very much appreciated...
PugRallye said:
Hi,
I hope one of you kind people could help point me in the right direction for some advice on custom ROMs for (UK version of) the Galaxy S8, how they affect performance etc, and where I might start learning more...?
Current situation
I've had a OP3T since launch and have come to the conclusion that even though it's a great phone (IMO) it's just too big/heavy and I want something smaller.
Ideal solution
Buy a second-hand/cheap S8, wipe it, install a custom ROM that's as close to "stock" Android as possible (I'm really nit a fan of Samsung's software and I'll likely have better support/updates etc from a community supported ROM than Samsung themselves)
Questions/concerns
I'm quite confused by the potential differences between the UK model (Exynos) and the Snapdragon model and how that might affect my plans etc?
What would be a good ROM that would deliver a stock Android experience whilst also being as bug free as possible, still retain things like great camera performance, good battery/performance balance, all "main" functions supported (fingerprint, GPS, BT etc)?
Finally, what are your thoughts on my idea? Is it "wrong"? Should I be looking elsewhere? What am I not aware of etc?
Thanks in advance if you take the time to help - it'll be very much appreciated...
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The main differences between the snapdragon (north america/america/china) and exynos(international) is that the snapdragon version has a locked bootloader (China has unlockable bootloader), so no magisk root, no proper custom roms and no custom kernels, in terms of performance the exynos is better in all aspects bar 1, the adreno gpuin snapdragon is a little better.
If you are looking for a clean android/lineageos based Rom il be honest with you, you maybe waiting a long time, currently only lineageos os Rom is in alpha, so a lot of stuff not working, but there are people working on it.
Most time are stock Samsung firmware based but optimised, you will find debloated version and there is a version where pretty much all Samsung apps are removed.
Also if you rely on Samsung pay once you root and install twrp and so on you will permanent trip Knox counter and it will void Samsung pay, you will however be able to use android pay
sofir786 said:
The main differences between the snapdragon (north america/america/china) and exynos(international) is that the snapdragon version has a locked bootloader (China has unlockable bootloader), so no magisk root, no proper custom roms and no custom kernels, in terms of performance the exynos is better in all aspects bar 1, the adreno gpuin snapdragon is a little better.
If you are looking for a clean android/lineageos based Rom il be honest with you, you maybe waiting a long time, currently only lineageos os Rom is in alpha, so a lot of stuff not working, but there are people working on it.
Most time are stock Samsung firmware based but optimised, you will find debloated version and there is a version where pretty much all Samsung apps are removed.
Also if you rely on Samsung pay once you root and install twrp and so on you will permanent trip Knox counter and it will void Samsung pay, you will however be able to use android pay
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Thanks for the information...
I guess I could live with a debloated version of the Samsung ROM - I can get a lot of the stock Android "fee" from using a 3rd party launcher etc.
Ideally though I'd like to replace all the default apps with Google variants - clock, contacts etc, and remove the Samsung variants - is that something that's possibly in these debloated versions you mention?
I'm not interested in Samsung pay though - but out of interest, is this totally non-reversible? i.e. if I was to restore to a stock ROM, re-lock the bootloader etc, Samsung pay would still not work?
If you don't want the Samsung experience, skip the s8.
Yes launchers and whatnot, in the end the software is Samsung with no alternative ROM wise.
There are equally good and cheaper phones with better ROM support. The S8 is only an option if you want the best screen and camera or/and really love their approach to software.
I did come from the 3t too and in hindsight would take the 3t over the s8 any day.
domsch1988 said:
If you don't want the Samsung experience, skip the s8.
Yes launchers and whatnot, in the end the software is Samsung with no alternative ROM wise.
There are equally good and cheaper phones with better ROM support. The S8 is only an option if you want the best screen and camera or/and really love their approach to software.
I did come from the 3t too and in hindsight would take the 3t over the s8 any day.
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That's really interesting...
I'm just fed up with the size and weight of the 3T - and there are no other phones that really appeal (other than the S8) when it comes to size, features etc.
I'm still quite tempted by a second hand S8 (can be had for about £400, immaculate, second hand) - at that price I can't think of many alternatives...?
If you want Android stock experience forget about it. At this point there's just an LineageOS 14 alpha version. Someone said that there's people working on it. Might be. But since first release (October 2017) 6 months later there's no "public" progress. So my expectations are very low leaning towards none. But you can try an optimised touchwiz rom (there's plenty of them) or even those "Google edition" roms. Based on Touchwiz but with Samsung stock apps replaced by Google's counterparts (dialer, messenger and I think camera).