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How many verizon people are Jumping on the $400 dev edition deal

How many fellow verizon users, particularly galaxy nexus users are tempted to pick up the developer edition on Monday? I think I will bite. Hopefully once this sale happens development will start to pick up since it seems like a lot of people are going to bite this deal.

blackhand1001 said:
How many fellow verizon users, particularly galaxy nexus users are tempted to pick up the developer edition on Monday? I think I will bite. Hopefully once this sale happens development will start to pick up since it seems like a lot of people are going to bite this deal.
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Former Galaxy Nexus, current Moto X Dev Ed user checking in here. Can't recommend this phone enough. Best I've ever had, and first I've ever had that quelled my desire for CM. Get it.
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Trying out T mobile with a Nexus 5 now. I love the phone and the service works well enough. Still thinking about picking up the X though so I can stay with VZ. Corp discount, much wider coverage, and unlimited data is hard to leave. I've been traveling over the holiday and haven't gotten signal in some areas with TMO. Not used to having to worry about that. The only thing that concerns me about the X is the near total lack of development. It's running 4.4 now but it remains to be seen if that update pace will continue in the future.

I have a feeling more people will jump on the custom versions. Especially now that root is available for 4.4 and AOSP isn't worth giving up Moto X features.
Edit: I had the Dev edition and am thinking about the custom version myself.
Edit: Just saw this as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48033832#post48033832

Currently have a Dev edition and may be trying out a custom one. Thing that sucks is I can't decide what color combinations I want. I like the look of the Dev edition though so I'm not worried if I can't get in on this. Hopefully Moto added some extra server capacity...but in the end it doesn't really matter since demand always exceeds the preparation.

If I do get it, it will definitely be the dev edition. I wish it was black but I plan on putting a case on it anyway so the front is really the only part that matters.

chaoslimits said:
I have a feeling more people will jump on the custom versions. Especially now that root is available for 4.4 and AOSP isn't worth giving up Moto X features.
Edit: I had the Dev edition and am thinking about the custom version myself.
Edit: Just saw this as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48033832#post48033832
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I just like the fact that with an unlocked bootloader I never have to worry about a future update killing root, etc.

theres about 5 of us among my friends who all rocked the vzw gnex.
i sold mine for a nokia 928 over the summer and then went moto x a few weeks ago. never looked back.
one switched to tmobile for a nexus 5..but now is tempted to get a tmobile moto x and randomlly sim swap cause of the deal.
and i think i convinced the remaining 3 to all go for the deal tomorrow to replace their gnex's haha
I debated swapping my 16gb for a 32gb dev edition...but i'm okay with running stock on this beauty.

blackhand1001 said:
I just like the fact that with an unlocked bootloader I never have to worry about a future update killing root, etc.
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Me too but I really haven't seen a need for root that I couldn't live without. My Dev Ed remained without root for 3 weeks and I only rooted it out of curiosity after they changed the warranty.

How does the moto X compare with the Nexus 5?

Wait, so is the VZW version of moto X rootable? What's the deal with the big bounty?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2493862&page=8
I really want to get a customized one but not if I'm going to have a horrible rooted experience.

I would jump if I hadn't already. Great phone.
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nvertigo said:
Wait, so is the VZW version of moto X rootable? What's the deal with the big bounty?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2493862&page=8
I really want to get a customized one but not if I'm going to have a horrible rooted experience.
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That's for the bootloader locked version. I believe 'fastboot oem unlock' will unlock the dev edition, just like the gnex.
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mwalt2 said:
That's for the bootloader locked version. I believe 'fastboot oem unlock' will unlock the dev edition, just like the gnex.
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Almost. You need to retrieve the unlock code from Motorola first. Then it's fastboot oem unlock codegoeshere

nvertigo said:
Wait, so is the VZW version of moto X rootable? What's the deal with the big bounty?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2493862&page=8
I really want to get a customized one but not if I'm going to have a horrible rooted experience.
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Yes. It is root able for 4.2.2 & 4.4
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I'm coming from an S3, picking up the Moto X today with the sale. I'm torn between the DE and a custom. Right now I'm leaning towards custom because of all the great reviews of Moto's edits. BUT, I am worried about the longevity of the device lacking an unlocked bootloader.
Any advice?

I just picked up a vzw developer while it was in stock. I am having buyers remorse though as I have an HTC One currently. I need to be able to sell my One to make up for the cost of the Dev X or it will have to go back.

JWorth said:
I'm coming from an S3, picking up the Moto X today with the sale. I'm torn between the DE and a custom. Right now I'm leaning towards custom because of all the great reviews of Moto's edits. BUT, I am worried about the longevity of the device lacking an unlocked bootloader.
Any advice?
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I'm also having worries about this device (except that it looks awesome). I'm just not seeing much activity for this device compared to others. I'm wondering if I should just wait another month or two and get the LG G2 for free when my contract is up instead of buying this? Oy.

I jumped on the deal. Of course, "jumped" in this context means I spent eight hours bashing my head against Motorola's broken website before I was finally able to place an order, and by the looks of their Twitter feed I was one of the lucky ones. They left a lot of people out in the cold today, with the website issues combined with limited inventory....
Been looking for a replacement for my Galaxy Nexus almost since day one. I love the ease of flashing that puppy but almost everything else about it stinks. Crappy battery life, particularly on LTE, but the real kicker was the never ending reception problems. Others have documented these issues, and I've been through three replacement phones (at least Verizon tried!) without success. It's fine for me when I'm stationary, most of the issues seem to be with handoffs while mobile. I've dropped calls with the GNex in parts of VZW's network where I haven't seen dropped calls since the Bell Atlantic days....
$400 for the unlocked DE is an awesome deal, I think, particularly for users with grandfathered unlimited data who want a flagship phone. On that same note, I'm told it works flawlessly with T-Mobile, so if Verizon pulls UL data I know what 'Plan B' is.....

RyanTX said:
I just picked up a vzw developer while it was in stock. I am having buyers remorse though as I have an HTC One currently. I need to be able to sell my One to make up for the cost of the Dev X or it will have to go back.
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I hope you are aware that the return policy says it takes 4-6 weeks to get a refund from they date they receive the phone back.

Sprint Note 4 thread

Looks like we now have official model number, rumors confirmed SM-N910P
www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910PZKESPR
...anybody get any responses yet from the pre-registration?

I have not yet. I even check the spam box.

lovekeiiy said:
I have not yet. I even check the spam box.
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Right. I'm hoping, since sprint supposedly is the only carrier that currently has signed up for VR and Note 4, that they do some sort of deal on the two for early adopters.

Can't wait for this. My s3 needs to be retired
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I'm only seeing black and white colors

ohbreeeezy said:
I'm only seeing black and white colors
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You wanted the pink?

fatboypup said:
You wanted the pink?
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Bronze Gold

evolone said:
Right. I'm hoping, since sprint supposedly is the only carrier that currently has signed up for VR and Note 4, that they do some sort of deal on the two for early adopters.
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I suspect we won't see any notifications till October. My guess, the phone will probably release around mid-October and they'll start preorders about two weeks prior to release. The good news is that since Samsung has a page on the variant and a model number, It probably going through the FCC review, if not already, and supports an October release.
As the VR headset, I'm not sold on it. I think it'll be interesting device, but I think it'll be very limited in support. I just can't see it having a large enough install base to make it popular for a lot developers to devote time to develop or modify applications for it. And the $200US price tag seems high for a device that may so limited. It's only usable, as we know thus far, just on the phone. No external power source, so just your phone's battery. No way to use with your PC for those games. In fact, there was an article I read that showed that getting an Octulus for the PC was cheaper than the Note 4 and VR. If they throw it in free, I'll get one. If it was $50 or less, most likely, over $100, not likely.
Plus, I wonder how the VR works. I have issues--lazy eye and colorblindness--so I have no idea if it'll work for me. The new 3D technology does not work at all for me. I have 3D TV and Playstation3, and got the active 3D glasses to check out. The 3D did not work at all. I only saw a lower resolution picture since the 3D tech uses one's cross reference between the two eyes to create the depth perception. I use one eye significant more over the other. There's a reason why I've taken a few baseballs to the throat; yes it hurt. So, on the top of the support, you can understand my skepticism for my own potential experience with it.
I'm actually more curious about the S Gear in regards to the US or Sprint. I think that may be more a more useful device. I would have preferred it to run Android, or Android Wear. I like the hardware it's bringing, and hope it'll bring manufactures to do similar. My other concerns with it, will it work with devices that do not have TouchWiz? What about the glass? Is it crystal like a good watch, or some kind of gorilla glass. Watches tend to get scratched if they're any kind of glass. If they have some kind of bundle where they offer the Gear S on the cheap side, say about $100, I would probably go with something like that.
Ah, it's exciting times for new toy(s).

lovekeiiy said:
As the VR headset, I'm not sold on it. I think it'll be interesting device,...
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It'll probably work for you since the device shows both eyes live feed (no shutter/no anaglyph). Also there are a bunch of programs that allow you stream PC games to the phone. They are not samsung supported/designed products but they do work (TriDef3D for example, there are also a bunch of android games that support the splitview 3D) I currently have a note 2 and built a custom "google cardboard" vr headset and it works great but the resolution is not so great. So, at least for me, I am accustomed to this type of headset and enjoy it quite a bit for games like Skyrim. In short, you can do everything with an android phone (any of them) that you can do with the Oculus, as there is software and hardware (DIY for most, but we have Galaxy VR now) that supports it.
Also, all US variants of the Note 4 have passed FCC as of a few days ago.

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... Also, all US variants of the Note 4 have passed FCC as of a few days ago.
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that is excellent news. I hadn't heard Verizon and a couple other hadn't going through yet, but ATT and Sprint had.
And if what you say is true about the VR and my vision, that would be excellent. There's nothing like handing over the 3D glasses to my mother and asking, "is this working? Do you see a 3D picture" And her response, "yes, and it's so cool. wow look at the sky.." it should be noted, this has been the case with most 3D stuff such as 3D rides. The old 3D tech with the blue and red paper glasses worked a little bit, but I've never had that in your face image coming out of the screen. The sad part, if it actually works and does so well, I would probably buy just because of that fact.

Im eligible to upgrade now with Sprint but Should i get in on preorder list or wait until black friday to order the phone with deep discount price? decision decision..

SptMogul said:
Im eligible to upgrade now with Sprint but Should i get in on preorder list or wait until black friday to order the phone with deep discount price? decision decision..
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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm just going on what I've observed in the past. I've never noticed any savings during holiday season/black friday on phones (maybe the lower end / not as popular ones to get more subscriptions) but the newly released high-end phones usually don't get discounts (the year old Note 3 probably will get a liquidation price). I thought that's why manufacturers released phones around this time of the year is because people "have money" or are willing to spend less frugally than other times in the year, meaning full price on the phone. If you're buying the phone without subscription discount (~$800), the full price/non-contract phone might be discounted during the holidays.

SptMogul said:
Im eligible to upgrade now with Sprint but Should i get in on preorder list or wait until black friday to order the phone with deep discount price? decision decision..
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If you want to wait, why not wait. What's the worst that will happen? You won't get the phone on release day?
evolone said:
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm just going on what I've observed in the past. I've never noticed any savings during holiday season/black friday on phones (maybe the lower end / not as popular ones to get more subscriptions) but the newly released high-end phones usually don't get discounts (the year old Note 3 probably will get a liquidation price). I thought that's why manufacturers released phones around this time of the year is because people "have money" or are willing to spend less frugally than other times in the year, meaning full price on the phone. If you're buying the phone without subscription discount (~$800), the full price/non-contract phone might be discounted during the holidays.
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A quick search showed that a number of popular phones were discounted during Black Friday the past 2 years.
http://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/shopping/2013/best-black-friday-samsung-galaxy-note-3-deals/
http://dealnews.com/features/black-friday/predictions/smartphones/

If I could have held out on my upgrade. Got the S5 a week after release nowni want the note4 lol maybe I could just sell myS5 and my old S3 and get it

bootloader unlock
I'm a Verizon customer and want to jump ship. Sprint note 4 should have an unlocked bootloader if history repeats itself. Any long time Sprint customers want to fil me in on some pointers? Which plan is the best? Throttling on certain plans? Etc. Etc. I do have Sprint lte in my area soooo I'm very tempted.

droidrev71 said:
I'm a Verizon customer and want to jump ship. Sprint note 4 should have an unlocked bootloader if history repeats itself. Any long time Sprint customers want to fil me in on some pointers? Which plan is the best? Throttling on certain plans? Etc. Etc. I do have Sprint lte in my area soooo I'm very tempted.
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If you're looking for an individual plan then sprint is going to be offering a $60 unlimited everything plan with a note 4 purchase.
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droidrev71 said:
I'm a Verizon customer and want to jump ship. Sprint note 4 should have an unlocked bootloader if history repeats itself. Any long time Sprint customers want to fil me in on some pointers? Which plan is the best? Throttling on certain plans? Etc. Etc. I do have Sprint lte in my area soooo I'm very tempted.
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If you're looking for an individual plan then sprint is going to be offering a $60 unlimited everything plan with a note 4 purchase.
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thearch1tect said:
If you're looking for an individual plan then sprint is going to be offering a $60 unlimited everything plan with a note 4 purchase.
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Isn't that one throttled (optimized)? I think the Framily isn't. On Verizon I can swap my SIM around into any phone with no issues at any time. Can you do that with Sprint too?

droidrev71 said:
Isn't that one throttled (optimized)? I think the Framily isn't. On Verizon I can swap my SIM around into any phone with no issues at any time. Can you do that with Sprint too?
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I don't believe it is throttled. The framily plan doesn't exist anymore. The new family plans are called family share pack and they have a bucket of 20gb that you share so not unlimited.
The quickest way to swap phones on sprint is by logging into your account and entering the imei of the new phone. Takes just a minute or two but not as simple as swapping sims.
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thearch1tect said:
I don't believe it is throttled. The framily plan doesn't exist anymore. The new family plans are called family share pack and they have a bucket of 20gb that you share so not unlimited.
The quickest way to swap phones on sprint is by logging into your account and entering the imei of the new phone. Takes just a minute or two but not as simple as swapping sims.
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I just actually read in the fine print that the bandwidth is optimized. There are still Framily plans they just aren't advertised. Thanks for the SIM swap info that helps cause a person at Sprint said I needed to come in the Swype.

Verizon Nexus 6 announcement December 31st

I just talked with a verizon rep in their live chat, they told me that there will be an announcement the 31st about when the phone can be ordered.

alligator_fight said:
I just talked with a verizon rep in their live chat, they told me that there will be an announcement the 31st about when the phone can be ordered.
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Probably the same rep that said it was being released last Saturday, in February, and doesn't know what an N6 is but would be happy to help you purchase a Droid Turbo.
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lol. just spoke with "jerry" via live chat. got same thing i've been getting since initial release:
At this time, we have not been provided information regarding the release of the Nexus 6.
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I called and talked to a rep last week. He had no information either. I've been (im)patiently waiting since the day Google announced the phone. I was only a couple of days away from being able to upgrade, and had my mind set on a Note 4. I've been getting more frustrated every day, as one of my co-workers went and looked at the N6 at the freaking US Cellular store. US Cellular! They have it before Verizon... I'm concerned that Verizon is taking all of this time to lock the phone as tight as the Note 4, which is still un-rooted on VZW. I live in a small rural area where our ONLY coverage is VZW and USC.

thefinancemaster said:
I'm concerned that Verizon is taking all of this time to lock the phone as tight as the Note 4, which is still un-rooted on VZW. I live in a small rural area where our ONLY coverage is VZW and USC.
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Thank Samsung for that. I don't know why anyone thought differently given the Note 3 bounty is *still* outstanding. And with Android L's change wrt kernel and root...odds are it will never be rooted.
Vote with your wallet people. Don't give Samsung a dime for their Knox crapware.

Skripka said:
Thank Samsung for that. I don't know why anyone thought differently given the Note 3 bounty is *still* outstanding. And with Android L's change wrt kernel and root...odds are it will never be rooted.
Vote with your wallet people. Don't give Samsung a dime for their Knox crapware.
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Oh, I agree somewhat. Knox blows. Samsung Touchwiz is my least favorite. BUT, the Note 4 is rooted already for the other carriers in the USA, but even (last I checked) over $11000 worth of bounty for root access on the VZW version hasn't had any success. If that was because of Samsung, the Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T versions wouldn't already have root access. The Note 4 hardware is amazing, we just need the ability to put different software on it. I hate Verizon... I may switch to US Cellular someday. They historically haven't had flagship phones available until the last year or two. But, there still isn't much in the way of Dev support here for their phones. What good is a monster phone if we can't hack and crack a bit? LOL

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Oh, I agree somewhat. Knox blows. Samsung Touchwiz is my least favorite. BUT, the Note 4 is rooted already for the other carriers in the USA, but even (last I checked) over $11000 worth of bounty for root access on the VZW version hasn't had any success. If that was because of Samsung, the Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T versions wouldn't already have root access. The Note 4 hardware is amazing, we just need the ability to put different software on it. I hate Verizon... I may switch to US Cellular someday. They historically haven't had flagship phones available until the last year or two. But, there still isn't much in the way of Dev support here for their phones. What good is a monster phone if we can't hack and crack a bit? LOL
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Half the problem with dev support is the insistence that every USA carrier have a unique SKU and mutually incompatible firmware. Which leads to community dev fragmentation to the max. Which is squarely on the manufacturer to blame. Knox and the locked bootloaders are also on the manufacturer. With Samsung's mobile division bleeding oodles and gobs of money this year, maybe Samsung will mend their ways.
Samsung's problem is that they went from making 2-3 high quality handsets under one brand (Galaxy)....to making dozens of handsets each with 5+ different unique carrier/region-specific SKUs.

An announcement on the 31st on when Nexus 6? What that it can be pre ordered in March or something and maybe 1,000 available

There are two golden rules you should keep in mind when speaking to ANY type of VZW rep:
1 - they have absolutely no information on the phone, its release or anything else related to it - plain and simple.
2 - they have been instructed to try to keep you on VZW, so anything of a delaying comment that will keep you hanging on while the first rule is in effect works for them, not you.
The phone only has two SKU's - We're going to find that VZ will allow it on the network (because they have to) and they won't sell it.
I said it first, and time will bear it out. I hope I'm incorrect. the only thing that will indicate it is here on VZ is a press release or seeing it on the website by magic, period. Anything else is just pure speculation and wishing.

Well, heres to pure speculation and wishing...:highfive:
But forreal. You suck vzw.

RW-1 said:
There are two golden rules you should keep in mind when speaking to ANY type of VZW rep:
1 - they have absolutely no information on the phone, its release or anything else related to it - plain and simple.
2 - they have been instructed to try to keep you on VZW, so anything of a delaying comment that will keep you hanging on while the first rule is in effect works for them, not you.
The phone only has two SKU's - We're going to find that VZ will allow it on the network (because they have to) and they won't sell it.
I said it first, and time will bear it out. I hope I'm incorrect. the only thing that will indicate it is here on VZ is a press release or seeing it on the website by magic, period. Anything else is just pure speculation and wishing.
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It is extremely unlikely at this point that Verizon will carry this phone in stores. That has been the speculation from the very beginning. Big Red will allow it on its network, but will never sell the device.

anthonyg45157 said:
Well, heres to pure speculation and wishing...:highfive:
But forreal. You suck vzw.
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+ 1000000000

I just talked to my inside business rep and she just found out that it is not being released until February. Pretty pissed!

Winter is coming...
Be ready cuz its coming... The Motorola Droid Turbo 6! It will be full of bloat and skinned in the most obnoxious Motorola overlay. I'm sure it will have all the same specs with maybe a faster processor. It will have 5 different Verizon logos plastered all over it. Of course the bootloader will be locked and we will never see root!... God I love Verizon!

I just had a meditation session with my spiritual king. He let it be known to me that Verizon will release the Nexus 6 in... and then the session ended. I'll try again tomorrow.

The number of people posting their opinions as fact in this thread is hilarious. Nobody knows anything, period.
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Nexus 6 on Verizon
My Motorola bought Nexus 6 works great on Verizon, and with Moto Credit im paying just like you would if you used the "edge" program from VZW... Oh and i didnt have to give Verizon any cut of the sales which is just icing on the cake!

Why wait? Buy one from another carrier, swap Sims.
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We probably wont see any Nexus 6 in stores at all. Nobody has the Nexus 6 locally on any carrier cause its sold out.(I've checked, XMas present.) If Verizon wanted the sales they would have already done it.

When i went into Verizon to get a nano sim for my N6 they didn't even know wtf it is. They're like oh that's not going to work on our network... I had to walk them through what to do to get my device working.

[Q] Just bought S7 Edge, still in my return period. Switch to 10 (VZW) for root?

I'm coming from an iPhone so I have no brand/device loyalty, but root/jailbreaking is high priority for me. It doesn't seem like the S7e has any advantages over the 10 besides screen (honestly not the biggest fan of the curved screen anyway). Should I make the switch?

Yes.
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I would! ?
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Lol, iPhone 6 Plus here as well. And I can't wait to get rid of this overpriced junk. I can't do crap with IOS like what I can do on Android. #power10 it is.....beside I never fall for S7 or edge when it first release. I'm glad hTC waited.

I returned my s7e today and ordered the 10; I found that unless you have the hands of a giant, you will continually hit the edges and cause miss types/screen jumps. I also couldn't deal with the lack of ad blocker and the DPI was too big, even with the new native scaling. AND I thought the curved edges would be in addition to the screen, but they really occupied about 1/8" on either side.

I agree with everything you said, Rus. I ended up returning it and getting on that pre-order train too!! What whatt

RusTachio said:
I returned my s7e today and ordered the 10; I found that unless you have the hands of a giant, you will continually hit the edges and cause miss types/screen jumps. I also couldn't deal with the lack of ad blocker and the DPI was too big, even with the new native scaling. AND I thought the curved edges would be in addition to the screen, but they really occupied about 1/8" on either side.
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I agree with everything you said, Rus. I ended up returning it and getting on that pre-order train too!! What whatt
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Remember phones bought from Verizon store/online are IMEI blacklisted from using HTCdev. It will probably come with a ton of Verizon bloat. It is also not a guarantee to be able to get root. It could come in a week, or could take a year like the M9.or maybe never. A java card could also possibly work but not a 100% yet. Due your research, only way to guarantee root is by ordering from HTC's website. Just FYI.

NICG said:
Remember phones bought from Verizon store/online are IMEI blacklisted from using HTCdev. It will probably come with a ton of Verizon bloat. It is also not a guarantee to be able to get root. It could come in a week, or could take a year like the M9.or maybe never. A java card could also possibly work but not a 100% yet. Due your research, only way to guarantee root is by ordering from HTC's website. Just FYI.
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So all I need to do is select the Verizon option on their website, right?

noahjk said:
So all I need to do is select the Verizon option on their website, right?
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Sadly no, only thing that will get you is the uh-oh protection. The unlocked version "might" work on Verizon but we wont know until someone try's it and sees if it has the CDMA radios. On paper with the posted specs it should but in my experience with verizon you may never know. They got the money to bully company like HTC to do what they want. take a read at this forum for more info.http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/unlocked-htc-10-verizon-t3357874

NICG said:
Remember phones bought from Verizon store/online are IMEI blacklisted from using HTCdev. It will probably come with a ton of Verizon bloat. It is also not a guarantee to be able to get root. It could come in a week, or could take a year like the M9.or maybe never. A java card could also possibly work but not a 100% yet. Due your research, only way to guarantee root is by ordering from HTC's website. Just FYI.
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Sadly no, only thing that will get you is the uh-oh protection. The unlocked version "might" work on Verizon but we wont know until someone try's it and sees if it has the CDMA radios. On paper with the posted specs it should but in my experience with verizon you may never know. They got the money to bully company like HTC to do what they want. take a read at this forum for more info.http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/unlocked-htc-10-verizon-t3357874
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****in hell man, all I want is a rootable phone through my current provider, haha. Either that or a quality Nexus that isn't a phablet to make me jump to Fi.

noahjk said:
I'm coming from an iPhone so I have no brand/device loyalty, but root/jailbreaking is high priority for me. It doesn't seem like the S7e has any advantages over the 10 besides screen (honestly not the biggest fan of the curved screen anyway). Should I make the switch?
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Yes
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noahjk said:
****in hell man, all I want is a rootable phone through my current provider, haha. Either that or a quality Nexus that isn't a phablet to make me jump to Fi.
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Yeah Verizon is the devil. Finally making the switch myself to ATT. I am done with the hoops you have to jump through to get access to the device you own. The Verizon version of the M9 gave quite a bit of trouble to get root but @jcase and the sunshine team finally did it so they may still have a trick up their sleave to get root on the Verizon 10 without using HTVdev to unlock the boot loader. Sadly the only way to 100% guarantee root with Verizon is a nexus. Don't give up home there are a lot of very talented devs on here but sadly its never a guarantee and can take time.

I just did my preorder through VZW. I know the risks as far as maybe not being able to unlock/root., but I just paid off my LG v10 for this because I know HTC, and I will get something going. I hope the great developers from the M8 series are here .
I may be a bit too excited for thursday to get here....

Wondering about development interest for roms and such?

Well I gave up my lg v20 to go back to the s7 (tmobile). It was an impulse trade. Now I've regretted it because of the lack of development in the areas of roms, themes, locked bootloader, and such. MY question is this, what's your opinion of the s8 and s8+..? Are they going to go down in flames or will there be a resurgence of interest in samsung again?
Your answers will help me decide whether to get one right off the bat or wait for another flagship device that's coming out in the next couple of months.

With Samsung's current path to block root I doubt there will be much development at least not for a while. I haven't rooted my last 3 phones (note 5&7 v20), because it's become such a hassle anymore.
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Thanks.
durandetto said:
With Samsung's current path to block root I doubt there will be much development at least not for a while. I haven't rooted my last 3 phones (note 5&7 v20), because it's become such a hassle anymore.
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Thanks for your reply, I was wondering if the s8 was going to have a locked bootloader. That'll make my decision easily.

I would almost put money on the bootloader being locked. Not saying one of the devs here won't get around it, but it could take some time.
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Development is becoming more difficult on all phones not just Samsung. Google are making things more difficult for developers. The days of ROM and Kernel development reached it's peak years back and has been in decline ever since. Especially because important features rely on having a locked down device. Also, one of the reasons people developed custom software is to add more features, many of which are part of the standard package when buying a new phone these days.
If you want flexibility and enjoy the development on XDA then Oneplus are your best choice. They are getting most of the attention now. It's the new Nexus. I'll get an S8 and if I get bored, I'll sell and get the next Oneplus 4 or whatever it'll be called. So I can play.

Get an international, word is the Snapdragons will have locked bootloaders across the board in the same fashion as the Note 7. Time will tell.

kevinchristopherson said:
Well I gave up my lg v20 to go back to the s7 (tmobile). It was an impulse trade. Now I've regretted it because of the lack of development in the areas of roms, themes, locked bootloader, and such. MY question is this, what's your opinion of the s8 and s8+..? Are they going to go down in flames or will there be a resurgence of interest in samsung again?
Your answers will help me decide whether to get one right off the bat or wait for another flagship device that's coming out in the next couple of months.
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Hoping they will be same as S7/S7 Edge in terms of dev support as both S8 and S8+ will run on Exynos Chip Worlwide other than US

I really hope Samsung will offer unlocked phones like LG is offering if you buy direct. I buy my phones so I want to root and keep it as current as possible. Thats the biggest complaint I have on my Note 4 is the way ATT/Samsung update its ridiculous. I mean over a year wait for the last android update for Note 4. I would buy a Stock Android S8 or S8+ and pay a small premium if thats what it took.

Sounds that way
jpinks said:
I really hope Samsung will offer unlocked phones like LG is offering if you buy direct. I buy my phones so I want to root and keep it as current as possible. Thats the biggest complaint I have on my Note 4 is the way ATT/Samsung update its ridiculous. I mean over a year wait for the last android update for Note 4. I would buy a Stock Android S8 or S8+ and pay a small premium if thats what it took.
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Samsung has supposedly confirmed this.

jpinks said:
I really hope Samsung will offer unlocked phones like LG is offering if you buy direct. I buy my phones so I want to root and keep it as current as possible. Thats the biggest complaint I have on my Note 4 is the way ATT/Samsung update its ridiculous. I mean over a year wait for the last android update for Note 4. I would buy a Stock Android S8 or S8+ and pay a small premium if thats what it took.
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They already do I bought my S7 Unlocked Edge last year direct from Samsung with the option to upgrade to a unlocked S8 or S8 + this year....

jpinks said:
I really hope Samsung will offer unlocked phones like LG is offering if you buy direct.
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I've looked all over for this, but no luck. Would you give me a link to buy (direct) an unlocked or unlockable G6? Thanks!

I'm still holding out, haven't thrown my s7 away just yet, to get back into the v20. so I'll just keep waiting for the word on the G6 or the s8+ ,, Hopefully something happens and they unlock that boot-loader.

T-Mobile's version of the G6 bootloader is unlocked.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/development/unlock-bootloader-tmo-t3578099

I feel like rooting and ROMing is dead. You have to go through a massive hassle now to even get your hands on a phone that allows it. A real shame.

JodyBreeze901 said:
T-Mobile's version of the G6 bootloader is unlocked.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/development/unlock-bootloader-tmo-t3578099
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It appears now like the phone may be reporting unlocked but isn't actually unlocking. Too soon to tell on that but it wouldn't be the first time for LG. It's old advice but more relevant by the day, if root is important do not buy in until it's proven.

kevinchristopherson said:
Well I gave up my lg v20 to go back to the s7 (tmobile). It was an impulse trade. Now I've regretted it because of the lack of development in the areas of roms, themes, locked bootloader, and such. MY question is this, what's your opinion of the s8 and s8+..? Are they going to go down in flames or will there be a resurgence of interest in samsung again?
Your answers will help me decide whether to get one right off the bat or wait for another flagship device that's coming out in the next couple of months.
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Easy...just buy a exynos version, no locked BL (at least the note 7 and s7 edge arent locked).
No point in buying snapdragon based sammy products now as it seems they are locking them down.
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