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Hey Folks!!
I´ve read a lot about the very poor audio quality with the streak...what do you "initiated" guys can tell me about this (aside from the fact that they have positioned the audiojack on the SIDE of the device )? How would you rate the possibility to use this device as my no.1 mp3 player?
Will the update that everybody is waiting for compensate this issue?
Hi brooon
Well i don't know why you think the Streak has poor audio quality as that most certainly isn't my experience of using it to play my Music on and whilst i was on 1.6 i was more than happy using the Music player that was built into the Streak as i liked the Music Widget that came with it. Since moving to 2.1 and 2.2 Custom Roms i am using Lithium Player as like the Widget options it gives and i have no need for an EQ as have never used one on any device i use.
What is far more important IMO is how well you encode your Music as using low bit rates are never going to give you great results however good the hardware may be its restricted by to little information to work with when decoding it. All my Music is kept in iTunes although bought on Cd's and then transferred to it @256kbps AAC. The second most important factor is then your in ear phones as the supplied ones with any equipment are adequate at best IMO so dependant on your budget and the sound you like to hear upgrading your in ear or head phones is the other thing that will effect the quality of what you are listening to.
I listen to at least 2 hrs a day of Music either with my Shure EC2g's in ear phones plugged directly into my Streak or using my Nokia BH-500 and streaming the Stereo via Bluetooth to the same in ear phones and the sound is nothing short of stunning IMO. It produces a rich and full sound with good separation and sound stage with no need to use an EQ as IMO you shouldn't need to boost any frequencies as thats what a producer does when recording the Music for you to listen to in the recording studio.
So in answer to your question do nothing as I'm already running 2.2 and despite now using Lithium Player for the Widget options i have no issues with the sound quality my Streak delivers whilst listening to music or watching Videos.
Marc
brooon said:
I´ve read a lot about the very poor audio quality with the streak...[...]
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Where have you read it?
Streak has the best audio quality of all the devices I owned during last years. I was amazed when I first plugged the earphones and played some tunes.
Theres a lot of fud around.....
I'd agree with smoku it's the best (although the speaker isn't great maybe that's what he read)
I'm now using power amp for all my music needs, the eq in there really brings out the best of the sound quality on the streak... It even plays m4a and wma and can boost the sound level out of the rear speaker
This is a valid thread, thanks for starting it.
For my part I am interested in portable audiophile gear, Sennheiser IE8 with custom moulds, iBasso D10, iRiver H140, that sort of thing.
My music is encoded in FLAC and I haven’t yet tried the Streak as a music player. Possibly in part so as not to be disappointed and also I am waiting on final 2.2 or maybe even 2.3 so as to bring the platform to maturity and with it good quality media apps. The original 1.6 just seemed to be rough around the edges and with poor app support.
So the responses from Dogmann, smoku and fards are very encouraging and I shall give it go sooner rather than later.
i use the hf2,s from emotec and you need a diff player to play flac but the sound quality is ok just the standared head set that come with its pants
I think 2.2 has increased the sound quality for the speaker but still not good as HTC tilt2. The sound from earphone jack is good on both 1.6 and 2.2 for me.
im using a pair of klipsch images and the sound on my streak sounds horrible. I hear alot of popping and noise. You can even hear when the internal amp comes on when its about to start playing sound, and you can hear it turn off when sounds go off its rather noticable. I recently installed poweramp and the inbuilt eq does make the sound alot better. Maybe all our streaks aren't created equal id love to hear one that sounds good.
hi @all!!
Thanks for the comments and experiences, your impressions are really helping a lot here guys
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I hear alot of popping and noise. You can even hear when the internal amp comes on when its about to start playing sound, and you can hear it turn off when sounds go off its rather noticable.
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That´s what i´ve read several times in reports that i´ve found during my googletrip ...it seems like you´re not the only one suffering under these (audio)circumstances. I must say, Im very surprised about the positive impressions here (although I´m happy to read such things )?!?
Don´t you guys hear those "poppings" and noises, too? What could be the reason for such a variety of impressions? Any idea?
This thread comes straight from the android knockers over at ilounge! i've owned both, there's no difference! i read the same stuff before i got android.
The only thing about the stereo system on the streak is the incredibly stupid placement of the headphone jack on the side of the device, meaning it sticks out sideways when in your pocket, the 'designers' even thought that you would carry the streak around in your pocket in landscape mode
tbh I'm not an audiophile, I've been a musician for way too long
never heard popping or buzz... except intentional as part of whatever I'm listening to..
My Streak does sound real good, even when listening to classical music. And I am using it straight out of the box.
Crap statement. It's not spectacular, but for a mobile phone device it's very satisfactory. I use it as a player both in my car and when I'm on the train and it sounds phenomenal.
Obviously it is not spectacular, lol. How could the sound on such a small device ever be spectacular? I was comparing it to other mobile devices (my wife's iPhone 3G, my old HTCs) and I am pleasantly surprised.
I switched to bluetooth headphones and they deliver much better sound quality, than the original streak's earplugs.
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Obviously it is not spectacular, lol. How could the sound on such a small device ever be spectacular? I was comparing it to other mobile devices (my wife's iPhone 3G, my old HTCs) and I am pleasantly surprised.
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Didn't mean to directly attack your statement . I'm actually agreeing with you, I think the sound quality is good on the Streak, and I'm calling the "reviewers" who said that the sound is bad on the Streak crap.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Its weird there is such differing opinions on it.
I've owned two and returned both for bad audio. I even had an email from the executive support team saying they're aware of an audio issue!
I just wondered whether maybe, as mine were both from the very first Carphone Warehouse batch in Brighton that I got a bum lot!?
Just tried the demo display at my local best buy and brought my earbuds and it sounded equally as bad as mine. My captivate, aria and nexus sound so much better.
shigga said:
im using a pair of klipsch images and the sound on my streak sounds horrible. I hear alot of popping and noise. You can even hear when the internal amp comes on when its about to start playing sound, and you can hear it turn off when sounds go off its rather noticable. I recently installed poweramp and the inbuilt eq does make the sound alot better. Maybe all our streaks aren't created equal id love to hear one that sounds good.
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This is my only gripe with the audio quality. If you listen at low volumes, you can hear fuzz/hiss sounds. I also can hear the amp/DAC/whatever it is turning on and off when I start/stop my music. Course, you can crank up the music to drown out the noise, but I like to be able to hear what's going on around me when i listen to music (so the yard gnomes et al can't sneak up on me.)
If you're in a reasonably quiet room, try playing some music with headphones and the volume turned all the way down to 0 (yes, zero). I can hear audio noise over the sound of my apartment heater blowing air around.
side note: I've confirmed this with the earbuds that came with the streak, as well as a set that came with my old iphone. i'm guessing if you have less sensitive headphones, this will be less of a problem cause you'll be pushing the audio out at higher volume levels.
After the encouraging observations here I decided to finally check out the sound quality for myself. My reference portable rig is a pair of Sennheiser IE8’s with custom ear moulds, iBasso D10 Headphone amplifier with an optical digital interconnect to an iRiver H140.
The music I like tends to be recorded as low-fi, e.g. The National, Bon Iver, Cymbals Eat Guitars. Last night I loaded up a selection of Calexico on both the Streak and iRiver. While these are clean recordings they are certainly not Hi-Fi reference standard, you know, the sort of stuff that is used to demonstrate high end audiophile equipment.
Basically my subjective comparison is just me listening to the sort of music that appeals. The cognoscenti over at Head-Fi may well have finer tuned ears and a more analytical framework and disagree of course.
I approached this with some trepidation bracing myself for a degree of disappointment in the Streak as a music player. No way did I expect what I found.
To summarise, given the choice of listening to the iRiver/iBasso rig or the Streak I would probably select the former. However I would be hard pressed to actually explain why. Perhaps because it has the ability to go louder - though the Streak is quite loud enough.
TBH after a couple of hours listening to the same tracks back and forth on both devices, I couldn’t discern any difference. Dell has really come through on this device in so many ways.
Kudos also to PowerAmp which is a joy to use and a bargain at $5.
For reference, the last time I performed this exercise was to compare with my old iPhone 3GS and there was no doubt then that the iRiver/iBasso was superior. I can’t say the same with the Streak, the best I can manage is ‘neck and neck’.
I am sorry for those who are having audio problems but this shouldn’t be so and your device could be faulty.
I'm pretty curious to know since GSMArena lambasted the audio output of the device when playing via headphones.
How do you guys find the quality? Acceptable?
I find it to be pretty good, even with the earphones that came with it.
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I find it to be pretty good, even with the earphones that came with it.
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How about the speaker where we listen to other people when we are on a call?
And other people hear you well?
People on call sound very clear, and I haven't had any complaints from people while I'm talking to them.
sound quality is fine i have no complaints or issues reported from people i have called or have called me speaker phone is good no issues there unless the volume is all the way up it will distort but that is the same for most phones i beleive
i also have it paired with the sexii SE HBH is800 and have no issues
PS im loving the phone
Tough choice... I wish the screen is 4inch thou. The price point is ideal for an early adopter set.
Just want to add my two bits:
The phone call audio quality is actually very good. I had the Milestone (Droid) before and this is better. The audio quality through headphones is also good.
Where it isn't so good is for speakerphone. I don't use that very often, but if you listen to music out loud all the time, this probably isn't the phone for you (get a Surround!).
P.S. I am also in love with my phone!
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Just want to add my two bits:
The phone call audio quality is actually very good. I had the Milestone (Droid) before and this is better. The audio quality through headphones is also good.
Where it isn't so good is for speakerphone. I don't use that very often, but if you listen to music out loud all the time, this probably isn't the phone for you (get a Surround!).
P.S. I am also in love with my phone!
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Thanks for all your answers!
Commander Data one question, i dont listen to music that much, but now and then i like too. Do you mean the speakerphone is bad quality or low volume?
I'm also concerned because i use a lot of calls on speakerphone... What are your opinions?
Thanks in advance!
Necroman_AI said:
Thanks for all your answers!
Commander Data one question, i dont listen to music that much, but now and then i like too. Do you mean the speakerphone is bad quality or low volume?
I'm also concerned because i use a lot of calls on speakerphone... What are your opinions?
Thanks in advance!
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It's certainly manageable. I just had a 15 minute conversation on speakerphone and the other person seemed to be able to hear me fine and I could hear them fine, it's just not excellent. I came from the Milestone, which has a superb speaker. I would say the speaker on the LG is probably half the size so it really comes down to volume. If you crank it, it gets fairly distorted (especially on calls), but at medium volume there is no distortion and you can hear it fine. In other words, it is not a selling feature on the phone, but not a detractor (I had a Blackberry before this and it wasn't as good on speakerphone). Personally, the LG's superior built quality all around is more than enough to make up for a middle of the road speaker. I think gsmarena complained about the speaker because the rest of the phone is truly at premium class and they would have liked to have seen the speaker at the premium level too.
Edit: I should note that the conversation I had on speakerphone had two other people listening in with me and they heard fine.
Thanks Commander
Haven't got the G2 yet, but after browsing through youtube for some video test samples, I found that the audio is terrible. I currently have a Nexus 4 and it too has terrible audio recording. You know what? I think they are the same since both 1) sound starts okay, but, after one second, sound starts getting distorted and 2) distortion sounds like your in a fish bowl.
Obvious sample of G2 mic distortion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRM3DJ4tLMQ
Nexus 4 sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f0b2hQZ9Yk
I might have been able to forgive the N4 because of its price, but its quite disappointing for premium priced phone as a G2.
Was that even using up to date software or pre-release? We dont know.
I think the video sound is fine.
Also, considering you do not have the device I would hold opinions until you have your own hands on and can then give your opinion.
Too many variables in this video. Maybe settings were or weren't ticked. Seemed very loud etc.
As you can tell form the title, I've been getting a very subtle hissing static sound coming from the speakers and headphones. I've noticed it for a while now, but I never really thought of it as a huge issue, but knowing that this is a audio oriented device, this shouldn't be a problem. It's only noticeable when audio gets quite during a part of a song like a quite instrumental part of a song. When something that's very "full" is playing, the audio overpowers this static sound and isn't that noticeable. Dolby only makes the static louder because of its volume boosting equalizer.
Is anyone else getting this problem and is there a fix to this? I saw someone post about this on the zte forums, but nobody really has a solution and it doesn't seem like one that people really care about.
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As you can tell form the title, I've been getting a very subtle hissing static sound coming from the speakers and headphones. I've noticed it for a while now, but I never really thought of it as a huge issue, but knowing that this is a audio oriented device, this shouldn't be a problem. It's only noticeable when audio gets quite during a part of a song like a quite instrumental part of a song. When something that's very "full" is playing, the audio overpowers this static sound and isn't that noticeable. Dolby only makes the static louder because of its volume boosting equalizer.
Is anyone else getting this problem and is there a fix to this? I saw someone post about this on the zte forums, but nobody really has a solution and it doesn't seem like one that people really care about.
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I'm also experiencing something similar. If I just play a song or another piece of audio clip, and then stop or let it finish playing. I can noticing subtle hissing sound coming from the speakers. It's not audible unless i place the phone almost at my eat. So not sure what it could be or if it's something to be concerned about.
I have it as well.
As was said, I have to really put my ear to the speaker to hear it.
I also have it in phone conversations.
It's not a HUGE deal. But it does annoy me very much considering that this is supposed to be an AUDIO oriented device.
I don't have it when using headphones.
I use bluetooth headphones, so never heard it.
But I do hear it now that I checked. Wonder what that is.
Hi,is that A2017U or A2017 G?
I'm getting ready to finally get the Ax7, is this a hardware defect to watch for?
Same here. Turning off Dolby Atmos improves it a bit but it seems like it's always there to some extent. I hope this is not a hardware problem.
I think this is uh normal.... Two speakers loud at that. Producing a sound it's going to keep playing until the song actually hits 0. This is how some things work. Alot really. I don't mind it one bit. The "hissing" as you call it is not really there for me. Low medium or high volumes. Maybe your speakers needs to "break-in" I've played some really loud music. Don't really hear static at any level.
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Maybe try a ground loop isolator. Just a thought off the top of my head.
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I think this is uh normal.... Two speakers loud at that. Producing a sound it's going to keep playing until the song actually hits 0. This is how some things work. Alot really. I don't mind it one bit. The "hissing" as you call it is not really there for me. Low medium or high volumes. Maybe your speakers needs to "break-in" I've played some really loud music. Don't really hear static at any level.
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yeah that's because it's harder to notice with loud, multi instrumental music, it's when listening to soft, acoustic or monophonic music that it becomes distinguishable
Check out the other threads over at ZTE this is a common issue something to do with Dolby Atmos
I have the Chinese A2017 model running Oreo & have just noticed this hissing sound which can be heard at lower volumes when I keep speakers close to my ear. I don't hear any hissing sound using headphones. I wonder if it's always been there or it's a hardware/software issue. I'm probably gonna hard reset the phone to see if it goes away. Anyone could fix it?
I think this is the right place for this, if not please move or let me know where I should go
I run an open jam, and last night got to test my V20 for the first time. I was recording from right up front, probably between 10 and 15 feet from the drums and amps. I should have been more scientific, I have an SPL meter but didn't think to check it (I also dropped the phone in front of people a few times to show off its toughness, because beer), but it's definitely pretty loud up there - from the back of the room I've seen 100-110dB, iirc. I also have a Zoom H4n which I should have A/B'd with, so I'll probably do that next week. So, without further ado, here's three short clips:
lgv20_recordings.zip
It does sound pretty good! I record on the Zoom a lot and I'm pretty familiar with how it sounds, even though I didn't actually record last night. The bass response is legitimately surprising. The only real problem I hear i the cymbal hits on the loud recordings - the limiter keeps them from clipping, but man, do they get smashed. Which is of course what a limiter does, but I thought this thing is supposed to "record up to 132dB". The peak lights were definitely solid red when I shut the limiter off, and red a lot of the time with it on. I thought it I thought they meant that the phone could handle up to 132dB without clipping. Am I misunderstanding what they mean? Do they just mean the mics themselves or something?
Would love to hear anyone's thoughts and any tips or ideas you might have to get better recordings out of this thing. Just to be clear, I'm in no way disappointed or feeling gypped or anything, under the right circumstances this phone's giving a ~$200 dedicated audio recorder a run for its money! I just want to see what this thing can really do.
You're way ahead of me. I'm still trying to figure out the audio part. Visual stuff I've got a handle on but the sliders leave me scratching my head. Look forward to see what all you come up with. As for the decibels part, I think I remember people pushing that it is the mics but I have no idea how credible those people are. (Tech bloggers.)
made some guitar videos. just some quick improv jams. sounds so good.
https://youtu.be/v9Rhj_fGPQw
https://youtu.be/poVn9TKJL0Q
https://youtu.be/2sUhk2i2yDo
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You're way ahead of me. I'm still trying to figure out the audio part. Visual stuff I've got a handle on but the sliders leave me scratching my head. Look forward to see what all you come up with. As for the decibels part, I think I remember people pushing that it is the mics but I have no idea how credible those people are. (Tech bloggers.)
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Thanks for the reply! Here's a quick rundown on the faders:
GAIN: This will boost or cut the input signal. I had this set all the way down for these, which is a -20dB "pad". Haven't tested how effective this is yet. Downside to something like this is that it'll affect all the sound in a recording, so if you're trying to record a quiet sound at a bar or something by turning up the gain, you'll be turning up all the noises in the bar.
LCF: Low Cut Filter, which is more properly called a high-pass filter - guess the devs/designers weren't audio people lol. This sets the cutoff. The way these actually work is there'll be a pretty steep roll-off below the set frequency, not sure exactly by how much on this or if it's shelving or a real filter curve, but I'll definitely be playing with it to find out. These get used a lot on guitars and vocals, because you know the instrument isn't going to put out anything that low, so any freq that low is the mic picking up something else around it. For reference, I think I've seen my macbook speakers go down to about 150hz (might've been 170 though), which is the top level on the recording software. Low freqs also have a lot of energy and it's easier to damage speakers by pumping them too much if the speaker can't handle it (we've all blown car speakers, right?) so I could see in some situations using this to save a future listener from themselves, but I'd never record like that - you can always take stuff out later, but you can't put anything back.
LMT: Limiter. Basically, this takes any sound louder than a certain level and turns it down to whatever level it's set at. There's also a less extreme version of this called compression, which you might see on a home theater or TV. The downside to both is with extreme gain reduction the signal will start to sound unnatural and "squashed" - you can hear it really clearly in the loud recordings I posted.
Hope that helps, and glad to answer any audio questions if I can!
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made some guitar videos. just some quick improv jams. sounds so good.
https://youtu.be/v9Rhj_fGPQw
https://youtu.be/poVn9TKJL0Q
https://youtu.be/2sUhk2i2yDo
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Dude that's awesome! I play bass too and was actually thinking of getting a G&L soon. I see you're in central NJ, my open jam's actually at a bar called Blvd Bar and Grill in Elmwood Park, Bergen County, every Wednesday from 9-close. Come by some time!
nice! you should look at an L2000. they're great. mine is an '87 L2000 Leo fender signature model. it plays great for being 30 years old, just needs a new jack!
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