I think this is the right place for this, if not please move or let me know where I should go
I run an open jam, and last night got to test my V20 for the first time. I was recording from right up front, probably between 10 and 15 feet from the drums and amps. I should have been more scientific, I have an SPL meter but didn't think to check it (I also dropped the phone in front of people a few times to show off its toughness, because beer), but it's definitely pretty loud up there - from the back of the room I've seen 100-110dB, iirc. I also have a Zoom H4n which I should have A/B'd with, so I'll probably do that next week. So, without further ado, here's three short clips:
lgv20_recordings.zip
It does sound pretty good! I record on the Zoom a lot and I'm pretty familiar with how it sounds, even though I didn't actually record last night. The bass response is legitimately surprising. The only real problem I hear i the cymbal hits on the loud recordings - the limiter keeps them from clipping, but man, do they get smashed. Which is of course what a limiter does, but I thought this thing is supposed to "record up to 132dB". The peak lights were definitely solid red when I shut the limiter off, and red a lot of the time with it on. I thought it I thought they meant that the phone could handle up to 132dB without clipping. Am I misunderstanding what they mean? Do they just mean the mics themselves or something?
Would love to hear anyone's thoughts and any tips or ideas you might have to get better recordings out of this thing. Just to be clear, I'm in no way disappointed or feeling gypped or anything, under the right circumstances this phone's giving a ~$200 dedicated audio recorder a run for its money! I just want to see what this thing can really do.
You're way ahead of me. I'm still trying to figure out the audio part. Visual stuff I've got a handle on but the sliders leave me scratching my head. Look forward to see what all you come up with. As for the decibels part, I think I remember people pushing that it is the mics but I have no idea how credible those people are. (Tech bloggers.)
made some guitar videos. just some quick improv jams. sounds so good.
https://youtu.be/v9Rhj_fGPQw
https://youtu.be/poVn9TKJL0Q
https://youtu.be/2sUhk2i2yDo
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You're way ahead of me. I'm still trying to figure out the audio part. Visual stuff I've got a handle on but the sliders leave me scratching my head. Look forward to see what all you come up with. As for the decibels part, I think I remember people pushing that it is the mics but I have no idea how credible those people are. (Tech bloggers.)
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Thanks for the reply! Here's a quick rundown on the faders:
GAIN: This will boost or cut the input signal. I had this set all the way down for these, which is a -20dB "pad". Haven't tested how effective this is yet. Downside to something like this is that it'll affect all the sound in a recording, so if you're trying to record a quiet sound at a bar or something by turning up the gain, you'll be turning up all the noises in the bar.
LCF: Low Cut Filter, which is more properly called a high-pass filter - guess the devs/designers weren't audio people lol. This sets the cutoff. The way these actually work is there'll be a pretty steep roll-off below the set frequency, not sure exactly by how much on this or if it's shelving or a real filter curve, but I'll definitely be playing with it to find out. These get used a lot on guitars and vocals, because you know the instrument isn't going to put out anything that low, so any freq that low is the mic picking up something else around it. For reference, I think I've seen my macbook speakers go down to about 150hz (might've been 170 though), which is the top level on the recording software. Low freqs also have a lot of energy and it's easier to damage speakers by pumping them too much if the speaker can't handle it (we've all blown car speakers, right?) so I could see in some situations using this to save a future listener from themselves, but I'd never record like that - you can always take stuff out later, but you can't put anything back.
LMT: Limiter. Basically, this takes any sound louder than a certain level and turns it down to whatever level it's set at. There's also a less extreme version of this called compression, which you might see on a home theater or TV. The downside to both is with extreme gain reduction the signal will start to sound unnatural and "squashed" - you can hear it really clearly in the loud recordings I posted.
Hope that helps, and glad to answer any audio questions if I can!
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made some guitar videos. just some quick improv jams. sounds so good.
https://youtu.be/v9Rhj_fGPQw
https://youtu.be/poVn9TKJL0Q
https://youtu.be/2sUhk2i2yDo
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Dude that's awesome! I play bass too and was actually thinking of getting a G&L soon. I see you're in central NJ, my open jam's actually at a bar called Blvd Bar and Grill in Elmwood Park, Bergen County, every Wednesday from 9-close. Come by some time!
nice! you should look at an L2000. they're great. mine is an '87 L2000 Leo fender signature model. it plays great for being 30 years old, just needs a new jack!
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http://pic.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/htc-hero/gsmarena_a001.png - this frequency responce graph doesn't look promising. I know that there are ways to correct it a bit on the Dream (where it is a little bit better to start off), but how about the Hero? I'm really considering of buying this phone, and the sound quality stuff could be a real deal breaker for me.
So I would appreciate any feedback on this, thanks.
honestly, ive never really noticed anything bad about the but ill check against a mates iphone 3g and report on the results, but i may not see him till next week
If you are not an audiophile like me, you could miss the points. What I am interested in, is the highs - close to 20KHz.
I would like to believe that the frequency responce graph I mentioned earlier does not represent how Heroes sound like. It's so choppy and lacks highs - they cut of at like 15KHz or so. Also, why is that graph so choppy? iPhones are just invincible in this aspect..
So I was just wondering if someone had managed to fix this with software modifications, especially after seeing threads like this.
Connected my hero to a decent separates system and it sounded great. It blew my friend's N95 away comparing the same tracks!
1. Check out the vertical axis on that graph. Considering that 3dB is about the smallest increment/decrement in intensity that the human ear can readily distinguish, that frequency response is actually impressively flat for a consumer device.
2. Check out the frequency response of your earphones. Or, if you hook it up to your expensive hi-fi sound system, your speakers. Your frequency response is NOT going to be limited by this device but by the speakers/headphones. To see what I mean, compare that graph, which for the most part stays within +/- 0.5 dB, with this one of a pair of good quality earphones, or this one of some excellent speakers. Note the peaks and troughs in excess of +/- 7dB in the earphones, and +/- 3dB or so in the speakers.
3. From the look of the graphs, I doubt they've used the same method to test both. I don't think you'd find them that different. Maybe one is a manufacturer's stated frequency response and the other isn't, or they were tested with different types of equipment.
Although not an audiophile myself I am pretty keen on getting the best sound quality I possibly can. Before I purchased the Hero I plugged in my own cans to check frequency response. I was actually pleasantly suprised how much depth was in the music.
Not immediately noticable however was a strange noise audible at the start and end of tracks, and in quiet sections - kind of like a hiss. Although this would probably only be audible in a decent set of cans (with a wide frequency response), as an audiophile where only the best sound will do this would surely annoy the hell out of you.
The other point to note is the lack of EQ on the Hero's music player, but as an audiophile I'm sure you would frown upon using EQ anyway.
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Not immediately noticable however was a strange noise audible at the start and end of tracks, and in quiet sections - kind of like a hiss. Although this would probably only be audible in a decent set of cans (with a wide frequency response), as an audiophile where only the best sound will do this would surely annoy the hell out of you.
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I noticed that on my previous S60 Nokia but don't notice it on my new Hero. It's possible that differences in impedance or sensitivity between headphones might make this affect more noticeable on some headphones than others.
The other point to note is the lack of EQ on the Hero's music player, but as an audiophile I'm sure you would frown upon using EQ anyway.
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Absolutely right!
I wouldn't call myself an audiophile (who would?) but I do have a keen interest in the technical aspects of audio and equipment.
this is the only phone where i can say the audio is really bad. i have yet to try more than one set of wired headphones but the bt headphones i have make it sound much worse. i have had a few htc phones and this is the worst by far. mono actually sounds better than stereo. Maybe im just used to my e71's sound quality.
Oh Lol.
Audiophiles listening to music on their phones. There's absolutely no way anyone who genuinely has a critical ear would expect anything like high end (as in quality) reproduction of audio on a phone.
Either way, the Hero's got a crappy signal to noise ratio so best you move on before you get offended.
I wonder how accurate the test was for the 3GS because I have never seen a frequency response graph that flat (even my HiFi tube amp has more variations).
And if you examine the hero graph more closely, you can notice that it's really very good. It has minimal gain loss in low freq. and it spans almost linearly up to 16kHz. And that's like very good. I noticed myself that the sound quality was far better then on the iPhone. But that is just my subjective opinion. But you can take in consideration that I used some HiQuality AKG headphones to test them both.
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this is the only phone where i can say the audio is really bad. i have yet to try more than one set of wired headphones but the bt headphones i have make it sound much worse. i have had a few htc phones and this is the worst by far. mono actually sounds better than stereo. Maybe im just used to my e71's sound quality.
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Any audio quality problems with bluetooth headphones/headsets have nothing to do with the hero, because the Hero is not actually producing the sound you hear, it's just following the Bluetooth spec, so it's not relevant to the graphs posted at the top of this thread.
Just so we're clear. You may already have known this.
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And if you examine the hero graph more closely, you can notice that it's really very good.
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Just as I said above. I think the 3GS graph there is bogus; there's no way that was measured using the same equipment. Most likely it is the 'theoretical' frequency response and the Hero's is 'measured'. And when you look at the Hero graph and pay attention to the Y axis, it is actually a very good, flat frequency response.
I really enjoy almost everything about the Focus. I bought it because I was so happy with my Zune HD.
I was underwhelmed when I plugged in my Grado headphones tho. Perhaps the Zune is just very high caliber, but It seems like I am missing some lows and the soundstage seems flat. Does anyone know what sort of Hardware went into this phone? If the hardware is good, is there anything I can do software or backend to make it sound better?
I have a second complaint. When I stick a headphone jack in the mic turns off, it probably is expecting an inline mic with the headphones. My problem is when I then go to pull out my headphones the phone doesn't notice and will continue to not hear. It takes two or three times reinserting and pulling out the headphones to remidy this. Is anyone else haveing this issue.
this is a known issue and will probably be addressed in the first or second update January-February. As of now the only thing you can do is adjust the default volume to be louder...there might be other things you can tweak regarding the root menu of the device. Check out the diagnosic codes thread.
Regarding the hardware i'm pretty sure its good hardware, I think that new apps will inhance the audio experience in our beloved phones.
Welcome to the forum, please do not start two of the same threads since it will clutter the forum.
Okay thanks. I saw the diagnostic thread. It was difficult to see what the values correlate with. How do you delete a thread? The double post was not intentional
The Zune HD uses a Wolfson Microelectronics audio chip, so that's top-tier level of audio quality.
The Focus uses the built-in Snapdragon audio codec, which just isn't as good, and unfortunately, it shows.
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I have a second complaint. When I stick a headphone jack in the mic turns off, it probably is expecting an inline mic with the headphones. My problem is when I then go to pull out my headphones the phone doesn't notice and will continue to not hear. It takes two or three times reinserting and pulling out the headphones to remidy this. Is anyone else haveing this issue.
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Same problem here. But is worst, I connect the Focus to my Car Auxiliary jack to use it as a mega speaker, I mean, when someone calls I can hear them, but they can not hear me. The microphone is dead when I plug it in. Someone knows a fix for this?
After doing some comparison with my high-end DAPs, my Focus is being relegated to movie watching only...lol. It has low quality sound. I did have about 8GB of music on it and have deleted it all. There just is no need to use my Focus for music when it sounds the way it does. It isn't horrible...erm...in a sense, that is. Before I compared it I thought it was quite good...lol. Now, however, I just can't stand it.
The Focus is a nice phone and does a lot of good things and those are things it will continue to do.
I'm using Samsung Focus as MP3 player replacement, which is perfectly fine. No different from Samsung Captivate with Wolfson chip, at least to my ears.
I decided to give music on my Focus another go after the NoDo/Firmware update. It seems to have improved the sound quality...unless it's just a placebo effect. I think I can live with the SQ now and am putting my music back on it.
I'm wondering which ear phones those guys use that complain about audio issues.
I think without this additional information the comlaints are rather useless.
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I'm wondering which ear phones those guys use that complain about audio issues.
I think without this additional information the comlaints are rather useless.
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In my case, I use high-end canalphones. Shure SE530, Klipsch Image X10/X5, Sleek Audio SA6, UE Triple fi-10 and so forth.
Yeah, that's really high end. With my Westone Um1 i'm satisfied with the overall audio performance, even when there is some hissing and and whirring with low volume. I'm interested if the sound improves with the firmware update, just have to wait a few more days.
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Yeah, that's really high end. With my Westone Um1 i'm satisfied with the overall audio performance, even when there is some hissing and and whirring with low volume. I'm interested if the sound improves with the firmware update, just have to wait a few more days.
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I believe it does improve with the update. Before the update, the sound was undefined and muddy. After the update, it seems a lot less muddy and more defined.
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I believe it does improve with the update. Before the update, the sound was undefined and muddy. After the update, it seems a lot less muddy and more defined.
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Interesting, I'll have to do a little testing.
I often use my Focus at work to demo PA gear and typically use a Proco iFace for connection. I've never A/B'd my Focus and Zune30, though.
It is so hard to do AB testing because even a half decibel difference in level balance can be taken as an improvement.
The best way is to do sweeps plugged into a soundcard and graph the differences. even then some distortions can be pleasurable. But at least you can test its reproduction faithfulness comparing the wave to the original song.
It would be really interesting for somebody to run sweeps before and after nodo and see if the are identical or not.
It is possible that its improved. Sadly my zune was stolen so I can no longer compare. I can tell it still lacks some depth and can get get overwhelmed in complex passages those could be powering issues tho. I'm guessing thats what you are describing as muddy Marty.
its a worse than my work machine and i know that was a little worse than my zune which is a little worse than my home marantz. But for anyone reading this, the focus's sound is probably good enough for most people and at least comparable to most phones I think if not a bit better (never heard an I phone tho).
I will say about the HD, it had a much higher then average sound output.
I was hoping to use this device as my music source but now that I've got it, I am highly disappointed. I expected it to be at least equal to my netbook's sound card but somehow it didn't perform.
Currently I am using Head Direct RE-0 with the Streak. Well these are high impedance IEMs and this may be the reason why I am not getting a good output so I am planning to try some other IEMs and thats precisely why I created this thread.
Can you guys recommend me something, if you've tried or already using them.
Did anyone try the Monster Turbines with the Streak ? Dell itself is selling these so I am hoping someone might have bought them. Can I get some impressions ?
I know I may be asking too much but and expecting too much from this device, but "One Device For All" was my thought behind buying this device.
BTW I've tried some other audio tools in the market (read poweramp) but the SQ of default player is way better so sticking to that and thus my only option left is another pair of IEMs. Suggest me some
Think you hop over to headfi for your quest which you might have a better chance of finding answers. I personally still using imod > amp > custom instead of a phone to achieve "audiophile" quality.
I have already posted my observations here on a similar thread a few months ago, so please bear with me if I don't repeat myself.
My interest in responding is that you have the very same IEMs as me. I also have IE8s with custom moulds which formed the basis my original post so I thought to try again with the RE0s in the light of your comments.
My experience with the RE0s is good, though my preference lies with the IE8s. I use PowerAMP with equaliser set to Off and my files are FLAC.
Having spent much time on HeadFi I know that these things can be subjective, so to each his own, but I am very pleased with the Streak as an audio player.
FWIW my reference is iBassoD10 and iRiverH140 with optical digital interconnect.
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I am glad to hear that and thanks a lot for your observations.
Somehow to me the sound signature of PowerAmp did sound thin and with the already "not so warm" RE-0, the overall experience wasn't that great.
Another thing is that I am not in a position to spend a lot on the IEMs so IE8 won't be possible for me.
Can you suggest me something under 100USD or max 150USD, that you think can work great with the Streak ?
look around amazon. i got my ie8s for about 200 bucks US
I also use an audio technica portable headphone amp (one of those pocket ones) improves the sound quality a lot more
Somehow to me the sound signature of PowerAmp did sound thin and with the already "not so warm" RE-0, the overall experience wasn't that great.
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I would agree exactly with that. It is as if the Streak produces the wrong characteristics for the RE0.
I was very impressed when I used the Streak with the IE8s but less so with the RE0.
It is a sidetrack, on the other hand the Sansa Clip works well with the RE0. This sort of synergy is great when it works out in our favour and frustrating when it doesn't.
If you like I could try the Streak/RE0 combination with a Fiio E5 amplifier.
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It is a sidetrack, on the other hand the Sansa Clip works well with the RE0. This sort of synergy is great when it works out in our favour and frustrating when it doesn't.
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I would prefer to use this device as my main source since I hate carrying multiple things all the time. Thats why looking for just an IEM upgrade to fix everything
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If you like I could try the Streak/RE0 combination with a Fiio E5 amplifier.
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Yes please, if thats not much of a trouble. Would be highly appreciated.
This is a rather quick impression with the E5.
With the Bass Boost On the mid/lower range is much more filled out and emphasised and overall is preferable. However the treble correspondingly suffers which is not preferable. With the Bass Boost Off I would prefer the unamp’d Streak.
Contrary to the opinions over at HeadFi I am not a fan of amp’d headphone out signal. The only way it makes sense is to have a dedicated Line Out, preferably digital. Otherwise what is being amplified is the signal from an inferior source amplifier.
Maybe someone will make a PDMI Line Out Dock, now that would be something.
If you can get the E5 cheap enough it might be worth trying, I paid £7.50 for mine so can’t complain and worth it just to have the option available. But £17 seems a bit steep. Though you can get them on eBay for about £12. It is easy to get into a law of diminishing returns with these things.
Personally I would just accept the nature of the Streak/RE0 combination and enjoy the open spaciousness and clarity and see the lack of bass as a tradeoff. Not all music needs a strong bass.
Hi,
Personally I find that whatever I use as earphones, I have a hard time accepting the noise level on the streak. When playing music at a medium volume, the noise is really very very present.
I suppose there is no work around is there? Doesn't this bother you for serious listening?
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You surprise me there. What do you mean by noise level? I don't understand.
My Streak is pefectly quiet apart from the the music that is playing.
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I get that noise as well. Its there as long as the music application is working and goes away when the app is closed. Sure is irritating.
I've found another way to get my music working.
Found this app foobar2000remote control or something. If this works on my streak, I can just put away my audio rig away, snap on the earphones and lie down on my bed, leaving myself to the music. All the foobar controls will then be accessible from my streak.
But again, this app is not working YET for me. I was able to test it out on http, on my netbook. Just that the streak is still being able to communicate with my netbook's foobar.
Soon !!!!
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You surprise me there. What do you mean by noise level? I don't understand.
My Streak is pefectly quiet apart from the the music that is playing.
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O dear! You're a luck mann! I have a noise in the background whenever playing. When I put the music in pause, the noise disappears after a second (automatic mute control I think), but as soon as I play again, the nois is there, very present! It is a constant level of noise, independent of the volume I set the music to. When I set volume to max, the music is so loud (too loud!) that I don't hear the noise anymore. But when setting it to say 70 perecnt, the noise is too presnt. Its ok-ish... but it definetly is not good (no hifi installation or decent MP3 player produces that much noise).
Any idea where this might come from? How come you have no noise???
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I also have the noise problem. I am using a UM3X and the quality is good enough except the background noice is very annoying. Is there anyway to cancel the background noice?
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O dear! You're a luck mann! I have a noise in the background whenever playing. When I put the music in pause, the noise disappears after a second (automatic mute control I think), but as soon as I play again, the nois is there, very present! It is a constant level of noise, independent of the volume I set the music to. When I set volume to max, the music is so loud (too loud!) that I don't hear the noise anymore. But when setting it to say 70 perecnt, the noise is too presnt. Its ok-ish... but it definetly is not good (no hifi installation or decent MP3 player produces that much noise).
Any idea where this might come from? How come you have no noise???
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I really am sorry that so many have this as an issue. I only began using my Streak as a music player with DJ_Steve's 2.2 early builds. What version Android are you on?
Could it be Os related I wonder. I am on DJ_Steve's latest 1.7 build.
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O dear! You're a luck mann! I have a noise in the background whenever playing. When I put the music in pause, the noise disappears after a second (automatic mute control I think), but as soon as I play again, the nois is there, very present! It is a constant level of noise, independent of the volume I set the music to. When I set volume to max, the music is so loud (too loud!) that I don't hear the noise anymore. But when setting it to say 70 perecnt, the noise is too presnt. Its ok-ish... but it definetly is not good (no hifi installation or decent MP3 player produces that much noise).
Any idea where this might come from? How come you have no noise???
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I too get this background noise, as well as a subtle "click" sound when the audio output is turned off/on. I've been contemplating Bluetooth headphones as a work around...
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This really sucks.. Why are we having this hiss noise? I'm on build 347, stock from dell. It's only been couple days since I got mine.
I saw in DJStreak's mod, there's volume boost mod, but my earphone volume levels are perfectly fine. So I don't think I need any boost feature. It's just the background hiss noise. It stays on the same level of noise whether I up the volume or play music in low volume.
Everything is fine on my streak,no hiss electricity sound.Still,I think my philip mp3 can do a better job than the streak.
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No hiss for me either. I'm on 351. Didn't try with 347 when I got the Streak last week.
There are several things going on here, I think.
1. The majority of Dell's hardware is identical to the Nexus One, Incredible, etc. Those generation phones probably used the same hardware. That hardware is not particularly impressive when it comes to providing clear headphone audio. Its is possible that some phones are better than others, but unlikely. It is probably due to Reason #2.
Here is the RightMark test for the Nexus: http://www.swedroid.se/rightmark/Google Nexus One/googlenexusone.htm
Here is an iPhone 4 + couple of other phones: http://www.swedroid.se/rightmark/optimus2x/rightmark.htm
The iPhone has a lower noise floor and overall cleaner headphone amp (harmonic distortion esp).
2. The circuit buzz we hear mostly shows up with high end/high sensitivity headphone and in-ear monitors. I think it is a lot less noticeable with basic earbuds.
Also, everyone has a different level of hearing.
To conclude, no - this phone is not a good source for FLACs with good headphones. It is good enough for Pandora streaming and MP3s. If you are serious about portable sound quality, I would look for a dedicated DAP of some kind. It hurts me to say, but to this day many phones haven't matched the Apple headphone amp/DAC chips. I would love to finally own a phone where I can consolidate all my geeky needs.
Hi There,
I am considering getting a Nexus 7 to read books and also to record band rehearsals. What is the quality of recordings like made with this thing? How sensitive is the mic? Can it record loud sources without clipping? A full band rehearsing? A drum kit?
Cheers
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Little bit of guitar here to give you a clue, was my first test. N7 was sat on a whirring laptop. Isnt too bad, little bit sizzly, fixable with eq tho. and your band may be loud for it, but some physical filter or placement should resolve that after a test run. Guitar is suitably complex sound so decent indicator-
This is recorded16bit 48k (tape machine app) wave - as good as we can get quality wise.
Some playback apps expect 44k so may playback weird on a n7 but you haven't got one yet so no worries!
Also was pretty easy to upload this to minus just nowfrom the n7 so that's good too.
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Little bit of guitar here to give you a clue, was my first test. N7 was sat on a whirring laptop. Isnt too bad, little bit sizzly, fixable with eq tho. and your band may be loud for it, but some physical filter or placement should resolve that after a test run. Guitar is suitably complex sound so decent indicator-
This is recorded16bit 48k (tape machine app) wave - as good as we can get quality wise.
Some playback apps expect 44k so may playback weird on a n7 but you haven't got one yet so no worries!
Also was pretty easy to upload this to minus just nowfrom the n7 so that's good too.
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Thanks for the reply. It sounds just on the cusp of clipping when you start strumming. Is there any gain control/mic level control? Is it possible to record a few bars of heavy strumming with the mic input level at its minimum?
No input gain control on the mic as far as I've seen unfortunately. maybe in future or with certain apps. A physical filter could take edge off if necessary. I have a zoom recorder for nice portable situations' but for rehearsals etc n7 is fine. I'd not worry..
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so initially when I purchased my red hydrogen one the audio wasn't anything no worthy, however it was moderately acceptable at that time. Nonetheless now that I've had this device for almost 3 years, the audio has gotten progressively quieter. Call volume is so low and quiet I can barely hear anyone I'm on the phone with. Audio playing through the stereo speakers on my phone it is quieter and almost any other phone that I know of. Ringtones and notification sounds are too quiet, I seem to have to keep my phone fairly close to me at all times or I end up missing phone calls. Not to mention the microphone levels and Gain is fairly awful on phone calls people are always telling me that they can't hear me, especially on speaker phone calls. Iliterally have to yell into the phone at point blank for them to hear me. Aux output for the most part and nearly every device that I've tried it on except for a few, and uncomfortably strong static filters through, as if there's some electric feedback or static feedback coming from the device or possibly the hardware that the audio is being processed through on the device...
These are my workarounds I have allowed me to continue to use this device this long...
For audio and music coming through the built-in speakers I use an app called boom, the app includes a smaller app which is really just as smart equalizer plug in / widget, with system wine equalization and loudness and also virtualization control.
When it comes to phone calls, and especially video calls, I'm simply forced to get as close as possible and often close my eyes just so I can attempt to understand and listen to what people are saying to me. I really can't express enough how annoying that could be, is quite a handicap technologically. It seems everyone and their cheap phones and devices nowadays play so loud and sound so much louder and clearer than this red hydrogen one could possibly compare to, especially considering how much this phone cost when it originally came out...
Now when it comes to AUX output, I am forced to use a hi-fi USB OTG adapted DAC
(dragonfly red), so I'm sure there are many cheaper more obtainable and more practical DAC options out there, even in line aux amplifiers, that utilize tiny capacitors and tiny little circuit boards to draw power from the weak audio output signal and amplify your audio in line without any other source of power...
In general the best option on this device seems to be Bluetooth output, yet even that seems to fall short when it compares the other devices and they're built in sound processing...
It's funny it just seems to be such a concern to me considering I came from an LG v30, which house possibly the best and highest quality sound and audio processing with built-in quad that hi-fi dedicated audio processors...
Yep, I gave up the world's best mobile phone audio quality device I've ever seen or read about with built-in hardware, I gave that phone up for the aesthetics, and unique functions of a 3D display, that hilariously I rarely ever desire to use or play with, honestly I agree rather bored of taking 3D photos and editing 3D pictures and video only for myself to be the only person that got to experience it got pretty boring, and truthfully every single game available in 3D on the device, it's quite lame and boring to someone like me, my 7 year old really enjoys it and I let her play some 3D games on my phone. But it really does run the battery down a lot faster than regular applications, so I don't even do that much anymore.
I'm pretty sure that I'm on the precipice of collecting and saving and or obtaining a newer and better cellular device to adopt as my daily driver, it's really only a matter of time before that happens. Currently I'm in a long drawn-out process to root and flash a custom ROM on a Motorola g stylus XT2043-4 that Is cracked but functional it happened to find in a vehicle that was purchased by the car lot my family used to own before we closed down at the beginning of this year.
Anything has got to be better than the sacrifice I'm making just to feel this highly engineered aluminum milled ergonomic 3D paperweight that I once desired and admired so much...
I guess unfortunate that I purchased this phone at a major discount considering the company had discontinued all development and future product releases, I honestly paid $185, and I just looked them up the other day and you can find red hydrogen one phones at around $58 on eBay if you look hard enough, some were even brand new never used....
Personally if I was going to buy another $100 phone that has no product support or updates, I'd buy another next bit Robin phone and root and flash custom ROM on again, now that phone was quite impressive when mounted especially for the price...
Thanks for reading my post, LOL I'm quite interested to hear literally anyone else's experience with this device, especially if they're anywhere close to similar to mine...
killacam4207 said:
so initially when I purchased my red hydrogen one the audio wasn't anything no worthy, however it was moderately acceptable at that time. Nonetheless now that I've had this device for almost 3 years, the audio has gotten progressively quieter. Call volume is so low and quiet I can barely hear anyone I'm on the phone with. Audio playing through the stereo speakers on my phone it is quieter and almost any other phone that I know of. Ringtones and notification sounds are too quiet, I seem to have to keep my phone fairly close to me at all times or I end up missing phone calls. Not to mention the microphone levels and Gain is fairly awful on phone calls people are always telling me that they can't hear me, especially on speaker phone calls. Iliterally have to yell into the phone at point blank for them to hear me. Aux output for the most part and nearly every device that I've tried it on except for a few, and uncomfortably strong static filters through, as if there's some electric feedback or static feedback coming from the device or possibly the hardware that the audio is being processed through on the device...
These are my workarounds I have allowed me to continue to use this device this long...
For audio and music coming through the built-in speakers I use an app called boom, the app includes a smaller app which is really just as smart equalizer plug in / widget, with system wine equalization and loudness and also virtualization control.
When it comes to phone calls, and especially video calls, I'm simply forced to get as close as possible and often close my eyes just so I can attempt to understand and listen to what people are saying to me. I really can't express enough how annoying that could be, is quite a handicap technologically. It seems everyone and their cheap phones and devices nowadays play so loud and sound so much louder and clearer than this red hydrogen one could possibly compare to, especially considering how much this phone cost when it originally came out...
Now when it comes to AUX output, I am forced to use a hi-fi USB OTG adapted DAC
(dragonfly red), so I'm sure there are many cheaper more obtainable and more practical DAC options out there, even in line aux amplifiers, that utilize tiny capacitors and tiny little circuit boards to draw power from the weak audio output signal and amplify your audio in line without any other source of power...
In general the best option on this device seems to be Bluetooth output, yet even that seems to fall short when it compares the other devices and they're built in sound processing...
It's funny it just seems to be such a concern to me considering I came from an LG v30, which house possibly the best and highest quality sound and audio processing with built-in quad that hi-fi dedicated audio processors...
Yep, I gave up the world's best mobile phone audio quality device I've ever seen or read about with built-in hardware, I gave that phone up for the aesthetics, and unique functions of a 3D display, that hilariously I rarely ever desire to use or play with, honestly I agree rather bored of taking 3D photos and editing 3D pictures and video only for myself to be the only person that got to experience it got pretty boring, and truthfully every single game available in 3D on the device, it's quite lame and boring to someone like me, my 7 year old really enjoys it and I let her play some 3D games on my phone. But it really does run the battery down a lot faster than regular applications, so I don't even do that much anymore.
I'm pretty sure that I'm on the precipice of collecting and saving and or obtaining a newer and better cellular device to adopt as my daily driver, it's really only a matter of time before that happens. Currently I'm in a long drawn-out process to root and flash a custom ROM on a Motorola g stylus XT2043-4 that Is cracked but functional it happened to find in a vehicle that was purchased by the car lot my family used to own before we closed down at the beginning of this year.
Anything has got to be better than the sacrifice I'm making just to feel this highly engineered aluminum milled ergonomic 3D paperweight that I once desired and admired so much...
I guess unfortunate that I purchased this phone at a major discount considering the company had discontinued all development and future product releases, I honestly paid $185, and I just looked them up the other day and you can find red hydrogen one phones at around $58 on eBay if you look hard enough, some were even brand new never used....
Personally if I was going to buy another $100 phone that has no product support or updates, I'd buy another next bit Robin phone and root and flash custom ROM on again, now that phone was quite impressive when mounted especially for the price...
Thanks for reading my post, LOL I'm quite interested to hear literally anyone else's experience with this device, especially if they're anywhere close to similar to mine...
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I can sympathise with your experience as all my previous Sony Xperia flafship devices including LG V series has impecable audio sound quality speaker hardware & sound system boosting digital or DAC audio software, but unfortunately the Red hydrogen one audio performance does not come close to compliment or reflect the 3D visuals capabilities. the speakers sounds tinny, lacking base, no depth or a proper rendition & the 3D audio surround sound enabled is actually more lackluster than disabled & furthur deminished the audio loudness. I sincerely beleived if the Red hydrogen one phone had continued to receive firmware updates it would have improved audio, video display & other tweats. I am a big fan of the Titanium version premium built quality & design & I currently own it in 2023 with worldwide SIM LTE works astonishingly well for today's standards but lack all future software updates is a pity, I actually am proud of showing my Red hydrogen one phone in public & draw parallel to the luxury VERTU phones as attention grabbling....