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Now that was fun! Speedtest: Iphone4 200kbs / SGS 1Mbs

Last Saturday I was with a friend of mine who was very proud of his new iphone4 (he is the "I don't care" type). So I was showing to him the AP system and I tethered to him by 3g connection.
So I had an idea (we have the same telco). I asked him: why don't you run your speedtest app (IOS app to check speed of upload download) twice - one with your own connection and one through mine (through tethering). We ran the test and he achieved 1Mbs through the SGS connection. He then ran the test directly through his own 3g connection (same place / telco) and he only had 200kbs.. You should see his face - he was tapping the "run speedtest" button again and again hoping that he would get better results..
Well done Samsung...
Just try it.. You might make them understand that it is not the bad network responsible for the miserable performance of their phones..

I'm getting inconsistent results using speedtest and my galaxy s. sometimes it hits my cellular's limit, sometimes it gives poor results. I'm talking about tapping "test again" and getting a much poorer result (or better), using hsdpa.

I once achieved around 4.5 Mbps download speed on my SGS through HSDPA, though those results vary depending on the current circumstances...

Evans_Prophet said:
Last Saturday I was with a friend of mine who was very proud of his new iphone4 (he is the "I don't care" type). So I was showing to him the AP system and I tethered to him by 3g connection.
So I had an idea (we have the same telco). I asked him: why don't you run your speedtest app (IOS app to check speed of upload download) twice - one with your own connection and one through mine (through tethering). We ran the test and he achieved 1Mbs through the SGS connection. He then ran the test directly through his own 3g connection (same place / telco) and he only had 200kbs.. You should see his face - he was tapping the "run speedtest" button again and again hoping that he would get better results..
Well done Samsung...
Just try it.. You might make them understand that it is not the bad network responsible for the miserable performance of their phones..
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Strangely this seems to be true. My wife complains about her data speed everyday when she was using the 3GS. Recently I bought the SGS for her and her first reaction after days of using was that the data connection lag is gone.

I finally got to see and play with the IP4 today.
In all serious, I don't know what the fuss about the UI or the phone design. It looks like a hunk of junk compared to my galaxy S.
I wanted to send a video file over bluetooth to compare the screens, but it wouldn't work. I only later realised it must be due to Apple relying on itunes to convert/store files on the phone.
Without simple bluetooth file transfer, how stone age.

oswade said:
I finally got to see and play with the IP4 today.
In all serious, I don't know what the fuss about the UI or the phone design. It looks like a hunk of junk compared to my galaxy S.
I wanted to send a video file over bluetooth to compare the screens, but it wouldn't work. I only later realised it must be due to Apple relying on itunes to convert/store files on the phone.
Without simple bluetooth file transfer, how stone age.
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i think the ip4 hardware and software are pretty smooth and mostly ok.
but such limitations are indeed very annoying. the other day i was like "hey i'll send u the ringtone i made since u like it"
oops, that cannot actually work
and so on.. basically could just share pictures.
then there's the classics "u could watch this <h264 mkv file> report we made in the train" nope, he can't he has an iphone, need itunes + conversion.
and so on.
heck, we also jailbroke that iphone, installed mplayer - nope mplayer jailbroken doesn't support iOS4 yet. theres also a couple of players on the store - but nope, they can only stream stuff and you must copy using hacks from a computer (still no bt transfer)
then.. we had to forward a .odt (like doc) per email on the iphone.. nope.. transferred it to the SGS.. ha. nope! that's one thing which doesn't seems to work on either iOS or android can only attach pictures & vids ><

then this will blow the iphone4 out of the water
stock JH2 ROM, no mod of any kind

Seifer1975 said:
Strangely this seems to be true. My wife complains about her data speed everyday when she was using the 3GS. Recently I bought the SGS for her and her first reaction after days of using was that the data connection lag is gone.
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Sometimes I can't get connection. Maybe it's singtel ? lol

Ya I get about 4-5MB down and 2.5MB up here in London Ontario.. both on the rogers network and the Bell network.

you know the funny thing is
my cell phone is faster than my home high speed broadband from both rogers/bell
i'm actually using both of them for load balancing, yet neither of them gets dedicated speed like the SGS can get
at these amazing speeds video call is not a problem at all

dude thats not good.. LOL I have a 15Mbps with rogers with my home internet and get that speed all the time.... but 4-5Mbps with my samsung S is really good.. too... very impressed.. a buddy of mine has the Iphone3GS and he can only get about 1Mbps on the same network.

My previous phone was an SGS, and I recently switched to a badaOS and an iPhone4.
I have no experience of 3G internet over-the-phone, since my company (Voda) in Greece is a bit crap-signaled, but what I noticed for sure is that iPhone 4 has better wifi reception.
And, regarding 720p video, yes, iPhone 4 cannot play mkv files directly, but throwing an mp4 file doesnt need convertion. It directly copies it to the phone.
In general, I respect both companies, Apple for keeping standard quality of OS & hardware, and Samsung for making huge efforts to make the perfect phone. It is obvious that, with Galaxy S, Samsung made a huge leap towards ruling the market, which, I believe, will happen with its next device.

A little disappointed in my 3G speeds. only 3.2 Mbps up and 1Mbps down. Last FW was dedicated to 3G speed, I can't remember what I was scoring back then but it might've been about 2.5 Mbps
Evans_Prophet said:
Last Saturday I was with a friend of mine who was very proud of his new iphone4 (he is the "I don't care" type). So I was showing to him the AP system and I tethered to him by 3g connection.
So I had an idea (we have the same telco). I asked him: why don't you run your speedtest app (IOS app to check speed of upload download) twice - one with your own connection and one through mine (through tethering). We ran the test and he achieved 1Mbs through the SGS connection. He then ran the test directly through his own 3g connection (same place / telco) and he only had 200kbs.. You should see his face - he was tapping the "run speedtest" button again and again hoping that he would get better results..
Well done Samsung...
Just try it.. You might make them understand that it is not the bad network responsible for the miserable performance of their phones..
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Well, they have a faster (potential) wifi connection:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3891/samsung-epic-4g-review-the-fastest-android-phone/6
Fatherboard said:
I'm getting inconsistent results using speedtest and my galaxy s. sometimes it hits my cellular's limit, sometimes it gives poor results. I'm talking about tapping "test again" and getting a much poorer result (or better), using hsdpa.
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Tell me about it, 4 tests in 1 minute, one of them bombed out at around 700kbps
TriC_101 said:
Ya I get about 4-5MB down and 2.5MB up here in London Ontario.. both on the rogers network and the Bell network.
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Mb?
TriC_101 said:
dude thats not good.. LOL I have a 15MB with rogers with my home internet and get that speed all the time.... but 4-5MB with my samsung S is really good.. too... very impressed.. a buddy of mine has the Iphone3GS and he can only get about 1MB on the same network.
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4-5 Mb?

Aaron8282 said:
Sometimes I can't get connection. Maybe it's singtel ? lol
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Singtel nowadays getting from bad to worse! Their 3G is becoming very unreliable nowadays, dropping connections like nobody's business.

Issues with SII

I got my SII just 2 days back. However its very good but there are few issues :
1) Battery is draining very fast.
2) WIFI signal is very weak. I am using SII just few meters away from router in apartment and signal is very weak. Earlier I used Nexus one and it was getting good signal with same router.
Also when screen locks Wifi goes to sleep and also on unlocking wifi is off most of times.
If there any fix for Wifi.
3) GPS is not at all accurate. I tried GPS from my appartment and it always show position fem kms away. Nexus one was showing accurate position.
Is there any fix for GPS?
4) Are there any custom images for SII available like CM for Nexus one ?
5) Can we root SII? How much safe is it root the SII? Is there any possibility in bricking the phone while rooting? What advantages will I get after rooting?
If you guys have any idea , please respond.
Thanks in advance.

alien0101 said:
I got my SII just 2 days back. However its very good but there are few issues :
1) Battery is draining very fast.
2) WIFI signal is very weak. I am using SII just few meters away from router in apartment and signal is very weak. Earlier I used Nexus one and it was getting good signal with same router.
Also when screen locks Wifi goes to sleep and also on unlocking wifi is off most of times.
If there any fix for Wifi.
3) GPS is not at all accurate. I tried GPS from my appartment and it always show position fem kms away. Nexus one was showing accurate position.
Is there any fix for GPS?
4) Are there any custom images for SII available like CM for Nexus one ?
5) Can we root SII? How much safe is it root the SII? Is there any possibility in bricking the phone while rooting? What advantages will I get after rooting?
If you guys have any idea , please respond.
Thanks in advance.
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This phone is brand new. There are no images for it yet [the dev community can only work with the phone once its released.. they're good, but not THAT good].
Read about rooting in the dev forum. Rooting gives you the ability to access and alter system files. If you don't know what you're doing, I'd suggest you not doing it. I'd especially warn against it since you don't know what you're doing and you don't want to ruin your rather expensive new toy. Once the tools are a bit more streamlined, go for it.
GPS problems are hit and miss. Consider yourself unlucky. See if you can arrange an exchange with the store you purchased the phone from.
Read the battery drain threads. You also may need to exchange. I haven't read enough about that, though.

So regarding battery and GPS , these are hardware specific problems or software?
Can these be fixed via software in future upgrades?

Wifi settings, menu button, advanced, wifi sleep policy, set to never. This is the proper setting and is better for battery life.
I don't know why android phones continue to come from the factory with this setting wrong like this.

From the GPS problems, it sounds like your device doesn't have a satellite lock yet and is using cellphone tower location. You could try turn on wifi location which will probably give you the usual instant location of your flat, or try wait a bit near a window for the device to pick up satellites.

your in a apartment building and your expecting to get a GPS lock?!?!

there is usually a range where i test my wifi connection to see if it works good or not in my home.
and GS2 is the only phone besides iphone 4 that managed to connect from that far away
i tried other iphones 4 and some of them wernt able to connect. or connect then disconnect. but my last iphone 4 never disconnects. and the same with my GS2.
who knows if i get another GS2 unit it might not connect. which makes me believe some devices are not as good/defective.
my brother's nexus S cant stay connected. it will be out of range for it.
so i think you have a problem with your wifi
i couldnt test my gps. i dont know how to test it. can someoen give me a code to test the gps ? i dont use it at all but its good to know that your phone is working lol..

psp888 said:
your in a apartment building and your expecting to get a GPS lock?!?!
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+1
I told you we'd get numpties following us to the sgsII forum lol
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a)
I live in a bunker and the GPS is accurate only to 10m. I never used the GPS outdoors and never got the satellite data, didn't enable the use of assisted GPS either.
I find this unacceptable. My GPS with AGPS and satellite data downloaded locked faster and is accurate to 9.9m !
b)
I live in new york and and like everyone (well, the 50 other signals i can see from my place) i've my wifi on channel 1. When everyone downloads i have very bad bandwidth. This is unacceptable. When I use my other phone at 4AM it goes faster!
c)
I report a problem cause while I saw 5 threads about it and how to fix it, I didn't bother to read them. Tell me how I should proceed. Please RESPOND NOW!
d)
I would like to root my phone but like for c), i didn't bother to read other posts. I want a personal response. With cherry on top. PLEASE RESPOND NOW!!!1
e)
Has iOS been ported yet? It's been a week it MUST be there. Else I bring the phone back. PLEASE HELP.
Seriously. Ever bothered to read the top topics? Don't even need to use search.
*feels better now*

@bilboa1:
yeah, I second all of that, plus my phone can't make me coffee and watch the kids while I'm out binge drinking. surely that is a software problem! someone must look into it straight away.
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andrej.marinic said:
@bilboa1:
yeah, I second all of that, plus my phone can't make me coffee and watch the kids while I'm out binge drinking. surely that is a software problem! someone must look into it straight away.
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No coffee either? I just took my SgS2 back to the store, it wouldnt let me play Call of Duty Black Ops, it refused to load the dishwasher, and then it had the nerve to ask for power?!! Really, what kind of phone is this? I'm going back to my iNoob! device

On a serious note
Hi Guys
on a serious note, and aside of what has been mentioned before. I had the SGS I before and i promised myself not to buy another samsung phone when i sold it. it might have worked well after you installed a custom ROM, but my experience was with official ROMs, and i am a firm believer that given the SH$$$T load of money a person pays for a high end phone, the damn thing should work out of the box
After all the hype about the SGS II and people claiming it is BLAZINGLY fast with no lag, and that the previous problems with the SGS I have been resolved, I am thinking on buying an SGS II but would like to ask guys with experience to answer this:
1- Has the lag problem been REALLY solved in this phone (EXT4 versus RFS), i have seen some guys reporting that pressing the home button takes around 3 seconds to close an application
2- Are there any deal breakers or have you noticed through your usage some major bugs
3- Are there any solid comparisons between the MALI 400 and the ADRENO 220 GPUs to show which one is better (yeah i am trying to compare the SGS II and the Sensation)
4- Everyone is reporting how good the screen is, do you recommend it or should i wait till 960x540 screens come out
5- how easy it is to connect the phone to the PC and sync your media/contacts/calendar
I am not a fan boy of any brand, just trying to make a good decision on which phone to buy since my money does not come easy
Thanks

bilboa1 said:
a)
I live in a bunker and the GPS is accurate only to 10m. I never used the GPS outdoors and never got the satellite data, didn't enable the use of assisted GPS either.
I find this unacceptable. My GPS with AGPS and satellite data downloaded locked faster and is accurate to 9.9m !
b)
I live in new york and and like everyone (well, the 50 other signals i can see from my place) i've my wifi on channel 1. When everyone downloads i have very bad bandwidth. This is unacceptable. When I use my other phone at 4AM it goes faster!
c)
I report a problem cause while I saw 5 threads about it and how to fix it, I didn't bother to read them. Tell me how I should proceed. Please RESPOND NOW!
d)
I would like to root my phone but like for c), i didn't bother to read other posts. I want a personal response. With cherry on top. PLEASE RESPOND NOW!!!1
e)
Has iOS been ported yet? It's been a week it MUST be there. Else I bring the phone back. PLEASE HELP.
Seriously. Ever bothered to read the top topics? Don't even need to use search.
*feels better now*
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For the first and only time on an internet forum, I feel compelled to use the language of the teenager.
Because, I am, literally....LOL
Thanks bilbao1 - made my day!

Everyone bashing his GPS issue, while I agree, he did says his nexus one DOES show accurate in his place. So if the galaxy is not matching same performance then there may be a problem.
Even with cell approximation, a few kilometers is too far away to be correct I think.

To my eyes there also appears to be slight color banding issues. On the o2 log on and log off screens its most prominent but you can also see it in the windmill live wallpaper screen shot below. Is this normal or have I been handed a lemon?
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TBH: The screenshot doesn't do justice to the colour banding/ gradient issue. However Its very much apparent. Even more so on the dark grey background of the Neural Net Live wall paper. The effect is similar to having a 24bit/ 16 bit wall paper on a 65K colour display - gradient colur banding especially visible with grey/ blue gradients.
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Bullies galore !!!!!!!!!!!!
I have had enough. Ease up guys, no need to attack or to call anyone numpties.

RADLOUNI said:
...1- Has the lag problem been REALLY solved in this phone (EXT4 versus RFS), i have seen some guys reporting that pressing the home button takes around 3 seconds to close an application
2- Are there any deal breakers or have you noticed through your usage some major bugs
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4- Everyone is reporting how good the screen is, do you recommend it or should i wait till 960x540 screens come out
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1 - the thing with Android is it is really unconstrained. extremely easy for anyone to mess their phone up by installing some software or enabling some stupid services. I can 99.9% confirm the lag is non-existent. The only place with "some" lag is widgets, but I think it is more related to how they are rendered. Now, if you install some crazy **** or just too many normal ****s, you could get lag.
2 - some MINOR kinks as always can be found. For example:
a) the Calendar widget - when you try to scroll through homescreens with this widget on one of them, it switches the day to whatever day you touched while scrolling the screen. It is like this widgets cannot see a swipe from a tap.
b) if you phone is locked you can long-press the power button to see the power-off menu, and in there you can disable/enable data to save power , but it just messes up the settings (if the screen is locked when you attempted it). I think this problem was present on SGS1 too , but not sure.
c) the wireless signal in my area (New York City) is crappy, I get annoyed with all those edge <-> gprs <-> 3g <-> H <-> H+ random switches throughout the day, depending on where I am within a small city block This is not phone's fault.
d) - could be more, just wrote down whatever I recalled. nothing major yet though.
4 - my screen is good. some people complain of issues with theirs though. Wait for high res or buy this one - it is really up to you. If I had a working SGS1 I would have waited for SGS2.5 that is supposedly out in the autumn.

tuhinz said:
To my eyes there also appears to be slight color banding issues. On the o2 log on and log off screens its most prominent but you can also see it in the windmill live wallpaper screen shot below. Is this normal or have I been handed a lemon?
TBH: The screenshot doesn't do justice to the colour banding/ gradient issue. However Its very much apparent. Even more so on the dark grey background of the Neural Net Live wall paper. The effect is similar to having a 24bit/ 16 bit wall paper on a 65K colour display - gradient colur banding especially visible with grey/ blue gradients.
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you can't see that in a screenshot. screenshot does not take "exactly whats on your screen". it takes the software representation and that's that. the software represention is unique and never modified (unless you modify it by hand with photoshop etc of course).
it means if you show it on various screens you will always have a different result because no screen are equal (although calibrated ones have less difference, and very good ones makes it very hard to spot any difference, but the point remains)
the only way to "show" a bad effect from a bad screen would be to really picture the screen.

Yes, I do realize the problem here but I don't have a camera at the moment to take a picture of the screen.
However till such time I was wondering if any one can confirm if they see visible banding on screens with single color gradients like the neutral net wp background or the blue background of the o2 log screen?
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tuhinz said:
Yes, I do realize the problem here but I don't have a camera at the moment to take a picture of the screen.
However till such time I was wondering if any one can confirm if they see visible banding on screens with single color gradients like the neutral net wp background or the blue background of the o2 log screen?
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Yes i couldn't agree more, the colour banding is much more apparent than it ever was on SGS 1....
looks like it is a 16bit colour screen or something... I was quite dissapointed by this as well
LOVE everything else about the handset though

Is the WIFI bad on the Nexus 7 or does my router have bad range?

i was curious does anyone have really bad wifi connection on there Nexus 7? I need to know because i need to know if its my nexus 7 or do i need to move my router closer to my bedroom and nexus? im hoping its something simple as moving my router but im checking with all u folks first.....
ty

There's an app for that. WiFi analyzer

My N7 picks up my router throughout my entire house, no problem.
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ty guys for ur help. i just want to hear back from a few more people to make sure, ty guys

It's weird because it finds my Wifi at home ok, but using my S3 as a hotspot right next to it only gets me like 1 bar.

yeahmon said:
It's weird because it finds my Wifi at home ok, but using my S3 as a hotspot right next to it only gets me like 1 bar.
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i used the WIFI analyzer and i found out that i was using the weakest channel on my router for wifi! so I was able to change channels to a much stronger wifi strength

My nexus7 reception remains very strong also, throughout my entire house. I also have the tf201 and the nexus7 blows it out of the water. Wifi analyzer shows a good 30% more signal on my n7 vs my tf201. Additionally, GPS signal is very solid as well. I get 7 birds in house and 11 as soon as i walk outside.
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movieaddict said:
i used the WIFI analyzer and i found out that i was using the weakest channel on my router for wifi! so I was able to change channels to a much stronger wifi strength
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WiFi analyzer cannot help me change channels on my Galaxy SIII. That's where I see poor reception. At just a few feet away too.

If I hold it in portrait orientation and cover the left side of the tablet (top 1/3) my reception drops 1-2 bars. It increases again when I move my hand away. I noticed this when I was lying on the couch with the tablet resting on my chest in portrait mode, and I had my left hand holding the tablet at the top left side. If I held it on the right-hand side (with my right hand) and moved my left hand away from the tablet then my reception improved. Put my left hand back up, signal strength decreased. This only happens if I'm far away from the wifi source. If I'm close to the source then my hand position doesn't seem to affect the reception at all.

zc1 said:
If I hold it in portrait orientation and cover the left side of the tablet (top 1/3) my reception drops 1-2 bars. It increases again when I move my hand away. I noticed this when I was lying on the couch with the tablet resting on my chest in portrait mode, and I had my left hand holding the tablet at the top left side. If I held it on the right-hand side (with my right hand) and moved my left hand away from the tablet then my reception improved. Put my left hand back up, signal strength decreased. This only happens if I'm far away from the wifi source. If I'm close to the source then my hand position doesn't seem to affect the reception at all.
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Not sure if you have had a chance to see the internal layout of the Nexus 7 but that area is exactly where the wifi antenna is located. I have noticed the same signal drop (10–20db on wifi analyzer). It is worse in landscape because your hand naturally rests there. But it hasn't been too much of an issue. I had my router transmitting at 30mW and just kicked it up to 80mW and I am good to go. I remind myself for $200, the Nexus is good but still far from perfect. If you look into the reason this device was built, it makes sense. Its sole purpose is to drum up tablet software developement for android, not so much to be an iPad killer, that is still to come.

movieaddict said:
i was curious does anyone have really bad wifi connection on there Nexus 7? I need to know because i need to know if its my nexus 7 or do i need to move my router closer to my bedroom and nexus? im hoping its something simple as moving my router but im checking with all u folks first.....
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My N7 wireless is good. I am comparing it with my Samsung Galaxy S2 which is much weaker than the N7 across the whole house. Mind you I am using a good wireless router 7800N from Billion which has got good wireless ratings.

dsldsl999 said:
My N7 wireless is good. I am comparing it with my Samsung Galaxy S2 which is much weaker than the N7 across the whole house. Mind you I am using a good wireless router 7800N from Billion which has got good wireless ratings.
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My wifi reception is poorer than both my HTC Desire Z phone and laptops etc, judged by it losing reception in the furthest room in the house (approx 15m from the router, in a pretty solid Victorian house).

drpepe said:
My wifi reception is poorer than both my HTC Desire Z phone and laptops etc, judged by it losing reception in the furthest room in the house (approx 15m from the router, in a pretty solid Victorian house).
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As suggested by other users, I think really worth to install wifi analyzer from Google Play then you can see a direct comparison rather than looking at the bars. Solid walls are not good for wifi and it is only fair if you compare distance base on line of sight. If you are using 802.11n 2.4Ghz then try different channels and also try changing channel width to 20Mhz can improve it but dropping from 40Mhz will reduce the max possible speed to 150Mbps.

wifi on any asus made tablet I owned has been never as good as other brands....stil works great but never full bars like my laptop or any apple product I own. Maybe its a android thing as my android phones are the same weak wifi. Nothing bad just less bars.

Depending on the model of your router, you might look into flashing DD-WRT on it (think of it as analogous to flashing a custom ROM on your phone/tablet). There are options to increase range on it.

The nexus 7 has very good signal strength and I get full bars while sitting 15 feet away from router with no walls. I can't try more than this distance because that's how big my room is and if I go outside of room then the walls comes in between and of course the strength drops.
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Wifi sucks on this tablet
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So far in the week I've had my n7... WiFi is notably weaker than on my laptop or iPad in the same locations so I suspect they've compromised on the aerial during design and construction. I can't determine if it suffers from an apple style 'grip of death' issue but I try holding it in different ways to see if it helps.
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My wifi is awesome until I try to stream an HD YouTube video then it buffers like crazy. Very annoying. Anyone got a fix??
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I've tested my Nexus 7 with 5 access points at the house with great signal and speed, and at work which has a large roving WiFi system with equally the same response.
If your access point is properly configured you should have no problems.
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Lenovo Lynx K3011 Owners Thread

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The Lenovo Lynx is not exactly a hot-selling item worldwide, and so naturally there is not much discussion on this Windows 8 tablet on these or other forums.
There are however a few threads on XDA about one or other issue relating to the Lynx, so I thought of creating a thread where all of us could come together and share problems, solutions and tips.
I'll start off with some useful links:
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USER GUIDE
HARDWARE MAINTENANCE MANUAL
You should already have done the free upgrade to Windows 8.1 (if it didn't come preinstalled) For those who did not do the upgrade, here are a few useful links after you do the upgrade from the Windows store.
Intel Video driver for Windows 8.1 (32-bit) - IdeaTab Lynx K3011
Total Driver Package for Windows 8.1 (32-bit) - IdeaTab Lync K3011
And here is how to get into the Lenovo Lynx Bootmenu/BIOS Setup:​
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it is too old product

cgigate said:
it is too old product
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It's not that old... January 2013 release date
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I've had mine about 3 weeks and I'm starting to notice a screen burn effect around the edges of the screen. Particularly after using an app with a lot of white.
Anybody else have that issue?

mattman86 said:
It's not that old... January 2013 release date
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I've had mine about 3 weeks and I'm starting to notice a screen burn effect around the edges of the screen. Particularly after using an app with a lot of white.
Anybody else have that issue?
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Tested my unit, can't find any screen burn or bleeding. Have you tried updating your video driver? Does the display have any other problems (jagged lines while switching apps, screen going blank, 'Video driver stopped working and has recovered' message popups etc?
I did have that last problem after I upgraded to 8.1, but it seems to have resolved itself after a Windows Update.

itsnotmeatall said:
Tested my unit, can't find any screen burn or bleeding. Have you tried updating your video driver? Does the display have any other problems (jagged lines while switching apps, screen going blank, 'Video driver stopped working and has recovered' message popups etc?
I did have that last problem after I upgraded to 8.1, but it seems to have resolved itself after a Windows Update.
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I actually have tried 4 different versions of the display driver. I've used 1099, 1177, 1160, and 1130. 1130 is the only one that doesn't give me the "driver stopped working" message. What driver version are you using? And could you list what Windows updates you have installed?
No jagged lines at all. No blank screen.

mattman86 said:
I actually have tried 4 different versions of the display driver. I've used 1099, 1177, 1160, and 1130. 1130 is the only one that doesn't give me the "driver stopped working" message. What driver version are you using? And could you list what Windows updates you have installed?
No jagged lines at all. No blank screen.
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I'm on 1177.
All updates available are installed.
(Image shows only windows updates, not office updates)

I ordered a Refurb from Newegg for $239 yesterday, it should be here by Friday, I'm really looking forward to turning it on for the first time.
I love Android but only on my phone, Never liked it on tablets.. was always left disappointed.
I searched for awhile and couldn't find a dock for it, the only place I found was on amazon and it's "Currently unavailable".
I was hoping to find one on ebay for a decent price, I might go with a Bluetooth Keyboard + Leather Case from ebay.

skuly said:
I ordered a Refurb from Newegg for $239 yesterday, it should be here by Friday, I'm really looking forward to turning it on for the first time.
I love Android but only on my phone, Never liked it on tablets.. was always left disappointed.
I searched for awhile and couldn't find a dock for it, the only place I found was on amazon and it's "Currently unavailable".
I was hoping to find one on ebay for a decent price, I might go with a Bluetooth Keyboard + Leather Case from ebay.
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Congrats on your purchase. If I were you I would try and find the lynx dock for it... you get an additional battery (it adds 4-5 hours easy) two full-size USB ports, and a trackpad (trackpad is kinda jumpy, though), and you can easily work with the docked tablet in your lap, or tilt the screen at any angle you like.
Getting a keyboard folio won't have all these conveniences.
Do let us know all your impressions of your new tablet.

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Congrats on your purchase. If I were you I would try and find the lynx dock for it... you get an additional battery (it adds 4-5 hours easy) two full-size USB ports, and a trackpad (trackpad is kinda jumpy, though), and you can easily work with the docked tablet in your lap, or tilt the screen at any angle you like.
Getting a keyboard folio won't have all these conveniences.
Do let us know all your impressions of your new tablet.
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I usually can find almost anything i search for, it's crazy that i can't find the freaking dock for the lynx.
I might have to just get the BT Keyboard and a 12000mAh External Battery Pack.

Is anyone having issue with xbmc when watching video? It plays the video however I can't see the video because of grey overlay on video. Anyone having similar experience with xbmc? I don't have such issue with vlc player.

shah_vm said:
Is anyone having issue with xbmc when watching video? It plays the video however I can't see the video because of grey overlay on video. Anyone having similar experience with xbmc? I don't have such issue with vlc player.
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Try turning hardware acceleration/ DXVA to 'off'

itsnotmeatall said:
Try turning hardware acceleration/ DXVA to 'off'
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thank you very much that worked for me. how is aamchi mumbai?

shah_vm said:
thank you very much that worked for me. how is aamchi mumbai?
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Glad it worked for you.
Mumbai's cool.

I just installed a 64gb SD card. It works ok.
And I question. My biggest problem with Lenovo lynx in win 8.1 is still the same: I want to do some things with the screen off. But every time I shut the screen off everything stops. Any help on this? Thanks.

sosimple said:
I just installed a 64gb SD card. It works ok.
And I question. My biggest problem with Lenovo lynx in win 8.1 is still the same: I want to do some things with the screen off. But every time I shut the screen off everything stops. Any help on this? Thanks.
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Have you tried this:
Go to Control Panel>Power Options>Change Advanced Power Settings and change value for Turn off Display = After 1 min.
Check if after that 1 min, does only the display go off or the PC goes to sleep?
Also change the values for Lid close action = Do nothing

itsnotmeatall said:
Have you tried this:
Go to Control Panel>Power Options>Change Advanced Power Settings and change value for Turn off Display = After 1 min.
Check if after that 1 min, does only the display go off or the PC goes to sleep?
Also change the values for Lid close action = Do nothing
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Yes. Nothing of those settings works if cpu is clovertrail. Always go to sleep.
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I love this tablet, newegg sent me one with a broken left speaker though, and I am trying to get it replaced, but seems like it will be a hassle.
My messages to newegg on ebay so far ...
Dear *****,
Thank you for contacting Newegg. We apologize for the delay in response time due to the enormous order volume from Black Friday, Cyber Monday and Holiday's. We answer emails in the order that they are received. If your inquiry has already been resolved, please do not reply to this email. If you have sent us multiple inquires and we have already replied, please only respond to us one time. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
I apologize to hear this, and would be glad to assist you with your return. This is a non-refundable item, so I will be able to help you return this item and have a replacement order sent out. I just need a little more information first. 1. Do you still have the original packaging and any accessory that was originally included? 2. Can you please give a detailed reason for the return?
Please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns. We'll be more than glad to assist you. Until then, thank you for contacting Newegg. Have an EGGcellent day!
Christine Z.
- newegg
My response...
Dear newegg,
I upgraded the tablet to windows 8.1...other than that the tablet is in the same condition I received it in.
I have the boxes it came in and I have the charger that doesn't seem to work with the tablet
- *****
Newegg's response..
Dear *****,
Thank you for contacting Newegg. We apologize for the delay in response time due to the enormous order volume from Black Friday, Cyber Monday and Holiday's. We answer emails in the order that they are received. If your inquiry has already been resolved, please do not reply to this email. If you have sent us multiple inquires and we have already replied, please only respond to us one time. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
Please kindly note that all the items must be returned in the original 100% entirety, including all original packages and accessories, or the RMA would be denied. Could you please confirm if you still have the original system? Thank you for your understanding.
Please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns. We'll be more than glad to assist you. Until then, thank you for contacting Newegg. Have an EGGcellent day!
Christine Z.
- newegg
My response
Dear newegg,
As i said ...
"I upgraded the tablet to windows 8.1...other than that the tablet is in the same condition I received it in.
I have the boxes it came in and I have the charger that doesn't seem to work with the tablet"
I do not understand your statement "original system", what are you referring to?
- *****
I hope they aren't trying to say i can't RMA because i upgraded it to 8.1 before i realized the **** had a broken speaker and defective charger.
But if i can't RMA, hopefully it's just the speaker that is broken and not the board, maybe if i could find a replacement speaker I'd just replace the broken speaker myself. But i get the sense that even with both speakers working the sound on this tablet will still be low, and i've read as much

sosimple said:
Yes. Nothing of those settings works if cpu is clovertrail. Always go to sleep.
Sent from my LG-D802 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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I think the only option is to use metro apps. From reports on other forums it seems as if metro apps can keep clovertrail tabs awake even when the display is off, but legacy windows apps cannot. So if whatever you are doing (downloading, rendering, transferring etc) can be done with a metro app from windows store, that could be a solution.
skuly said:
I love this tablet, newegg sent me one with a broken left speaker though, and I am trying to get it replaced, but seems like it will be a hassle.
I hope they aren't trying to say i can't RMA because i upgraded it to 8.1 before i realized the **** had a broken speaker and defective charger.
But if i can't RMA, hopefully it's just the speaker that is broken and not the board, maybe if i could find a replacement speaker I'd just replace the broken speaker myself. But i get the sense that even with both speakers working the sound on this tablet will still be low, and i've read as much
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I don't think having upgraded to 8.1 should be a problem. It is after all an official upgrade of the preinstalled OS.
Here in India, when I called up the service station with a battery problem (my dock battery was not working) the customer care guys kept trying to tell me to 'take the battery out and put it back in!'
The Lynx is such a rare item that none of those customer service execs had been trained for it!
I eventually had to visit a service station personally to get the dock battery replaced (when that did not fix the problem they replaced the circuit board as well).
But you should get them to replace the speaker and charger. Like in my case, the problem could be with the board.

I am not going to rma it over the broken speaker, Pay to ship it back to them and probably wait a month to get the replacement.. and the sound probably will still be low.
From the reviews i read the sound isn't that loud or good even with both speakers.
Newegg really sucks, it's been years since i bought anything from newegg but i never had problems like this with them before. I feel like i'm talking to a chat bot or something, actually a chat bot probably would be better to deal with.

skuly said:
I am not going to rma it over the broken speaker, Pay to ship it back to them and probably wait a month to get the replacement.. and the sound probably will still be low.
From the reviews i read the sound isn't that loud or good even with both speakers.
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You're right. Well, if you are planning to replace the speakers yourself, do post a detailed WIP here so we can all benefit. You might have to get the actual speakers from some other device and somehow get them to fit in the slots inside the Lynx.
Though since you're looking for a bluetooth keyboard anyway, you can get one which has built-in speakers.
Or even something like this:

How to enable 5Ghz wifi in H990ds?

How to enable 5ghz wifi in H990ds?
I can't find 5ghz wifi signal in my phone. Did I need to enable manually?
How to check my wifi hardware? Any idea?
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Perhaps this fix for the V10 would resolve your issue. I've used it with a noticeable improvement on my V20, and it alters the devices use of wifi frequencies so it may have the desired effect.
Also giving your 2.5ghz and 5ghz networks seperate names should also help.

Aaren11 said:
Perhaps this fix for the V10 would resolve your issue. I've used it with a noticeable improvement on my V20, and it alters the devices use of wifi frequencies so it may have the desired effect.
Also giving your 2.5ghz and 5ghz networks seperate names should also help.
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H990DS still can't root.
Anyway thank for reply
P.s While rest of my phones found 5ghz signal, my V20 didn't see 5ghz signal with seperate name.
Sent from my LG-H990 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

itsraining2008 said:
H990DS still can't root.
Anyway thank for reply
P.s While rest of my phones found 5ghz signal, my V20 didn't see 5ghz signal with seperate name.
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Drat didn't realize the H990DS still didn't have root, my apologies.

I've got the same problem as well. Can't connect to 5Ghz at all. I brought one a while ago as well and that didn't work so I got a replacement today and this doesn't work at all either.

Madbullben said:
I've got the same problem as well. Can't connect to 5Ghz at all. I brought one a while ago as well and that didn't work so I got a replacement today and this doesn't work at all either.
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Not sure, I have a HD990DS and it connects properly to my 5 GHz channel on my ASUS DSL-AC68U router

I can't see any 5GHz wifi networks either on my V20. I have different SSIDs for my 5GHz access points, and I don't see them at all, even with my phone up close!
I have a brand new V20 990DS, fresh out of the box, no updates applied (in fact, I disabled them as I didn't want to jeopardise getting root), on Android 7.0 software version V10c-TWN-XX

I don't understand how LG could have messed this up. Or other problems such as slow internet.
I may just keep buying the phone from different places and hope I'll end up getting a decent one soon.
I really like this phone with the duel screen and the DAC. One of the best phones I think you can get if the WI-FI actually worked.
Thanks Ben

well, this is odd. I only got my V20 yesterday and I couldn't put my SIM in until it was cut down; I got it cut down today and put it straight into my phone. When I got home, I found by chance that my V20 could now see my 5GHz band access point*.
I don't think I've done anything else that might have made it work, other than unsuccessfully attempt to root it. Is it possible that my phone didn't know what worldwide jurisdiction it was in so wouldn't turn on 5GHz wifi until it knew, which it would have found from the SIM?
I have one of these * Ubiquiti Unifi UAP-AC-PRO. Best thing I ever bought, ditching random dd-wrt boxes.

speculatrix said:
well, this is odd. I only got my V20 yesterday and I couldn't put my SIM in until it was cut down; I got it cut down today and put it straight into my phone. When I got home, I found by chance that my V20 could now see my 5GHz band access point*.
I don't think I've done anything else that might have made it work, other than unsuccessfully attempt to root it. Is it possible that my phone didn't know what worldwide jurisdiction it was in so wouldn't turn on 5GHz wifi until it knew, which it would have found from the SIM?
I have one of these * Ubiquiti Unifi UAP-AC-PRO. Best thing I ever bought, ditching random dd-wrt boxes.
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That's really odd! I've never heard that before. I haven't put a sim I it yet as it wasn't working properly, so I just got a replacement which also didn't work. I'll try that tomorrow and put a new sim in it.
Does everything work now then? I've heard people say that on some of them that the Internet speed is slow, is that happening as well?
Thanks Ben

I just compared speedtest app between my laptop (which doesn't have 802.11ac, but does have .11a/5GHz. My internet connection is 35 down, 5.5 up.
Laptop (64 bit linux) gets 32.3M down, 4.8M up, which is quite respectable
LG V20 gets 22M down, 5.1M up.
Xperia Z Ultra gets 28.6 down, 4M up.
I know speedtest results can vary a lot, I ran it several times on the V20 and it struggled to get much over 20M, yet the upload was as good as any other device.
On a hunch, I took the back off the V20 and held it a little more loosely, and it had no problem getting 31M down, same upload, so pretty good! I suspect therefore that it'd be worth looking for a replacement cheap back for the V20 that's entirely plastic!

Ok well that's really odd again then. If LG knew that the back would interfere with connection then why just why.
LG's quality control is really bad.

Lol. Nothing to do with QC, more R&D and engineering.
Anyway I think you'll find the antennas are in the head- and/or chin-pieces which are made of silicon polycarbonate (plastic) and therefore no barrier to signal reception.

That's what I thought too that the bumpers have the antenna's in them. But then how would you explain the 10mbps increase? Because it makes no sense at all from my current understanding.
Also have you seen all the posts saying that they've had bad Internet speeds usually getting around 30 while another phone is getting 100-200 etc? It's all surrounding the WI-FI module. That's a QC issue.
It's not that I don't like LG either, I've had an LG G3 for 3 years and have never had a problem. In fact I could have brought an samsung s7 Edge for the same price but liked the LG more.

the problem is that the tech bloggers who review phones go through various fashions. All glass phones. All metal phones. Thin/light phones. Super high-res displays.
as a result we end up with phones that are..
* fragile (all glass),
* have poor radios (mobile signal is poor, or wifi is weak),
* have poor battery life (too thin for bigger battery),
* have poor battery (lots of CPU and GPU power to drive high-res displays).
meanwhile, the tech blogger who had the phone for only weeks, or days, or even hours, has moved on, and doesn't have to live with the phone's compromises.

You think the OEMs manufacture phones to suit bloggers?

speculatrix said:
I just compared speedtest app between my laptop (which doesn't have 802.11ac, but does have .11a/5GHz. My internet connection is 35 down, 5.5 up.
Laptop (64 bit linux) gets 32.3M down, 4.8M up, which is quite respectable
LG V20 gets 22M down, 5.1M up.
Xperia Z Ultra gets 28.6 down, 4M up.
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I just tried to run a speed test and there are my results:
DOWNLOAD 80.15Mb/s
UPLOAD 85.03Mb/s
PING 13 ms
RATING 5/5 Stars
DEVICE LG-H990
ISP VERIZON FIOS
SERVER SOMERVILLE, MA

I had the same problem, after changing the channel from auto to 40, I could find the 5Ghz. signal on the Phone.
Changed my Speedtest from 20Mbps to 125Mbps!!

Can confirm that putting a sim card in the phone gets the 5ghz to work again but unfortunately it's slower than what it should be getting.
It's gets around 30 to 70 and is really inconsistent. It should be getting around 200 like some of my other devices.
I've sent this one back to get a replacement and hopefully that one works.
I've sent this message 3 times and and each time it got messed up
Thanks Ben