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Hi Guys,
This morning I suddenly noticed black 'liquid' spots 'behind' my screen. The screen stills works perfectly, but not sure what to do with these spots.
Should I bring it in for repair (reflashing to original ROM, etc)?
These are spots like we used to see on LCD screens, if you press the screen, they get bigger. If I take out the battery and press from the inside, the spots move as well. I reckon there is some pressure build up in the device and would like to open it myself, but that would void the warrenty of course.
Attached 2 photos, 1 with screen off (clearly visable) and 1 with screen on (not really bothersome).
anybody seen this before?
FTrippie
ink bleeding, u should get it to repair asap, lcd is messsed up
My mistake, the other members are right, I am sorry as I could not see your pictures correctly because I was browsing with my hd2.... it is not ink bleeding, for that, you have to have the lcd broken..... anyway, I am glad is not bleeding, now, lets learn from the other members.... cheers..
There are quite a few threads with people having the same issue, I don't believe it's bleeding like suggested above, it is the layers of the screen sticking together. I had the same problem on my old LG Viewty about three years ago - sometimes it goes away on it's own (when the phone gets hot for example) and sometimes you need to get a replacement. If it's new I suggest you speak to either your provider or HTC.
Use a suction cup to carefully pull the screen a little bit and it should disappear.
Brgds... /TubGirl
Same thing happened to me, and few other members... Have a look here.
Grtz
Lukas
Thanks for the quick response guys!
Yep, it's exactly what happened in thread mentioned
(did some searching but couldn't find it before)
the suction cup idea might be a good one, will check it out and let you know. If I can solve it myself it would be much better than sending it in.
thanks!
(newton ring ) this is dueto great pressure happened on the screen if not fixed in short time the screeen will be corrubted .
note; (it is not covered by warranty)
Nope, in my case no pressure whatsoever. It just happened overnight. If it would be pressure, it would be from a faulty manufacturing and elements of the device not fitting well.
Just read the whole case in the other thread, I think I am in for some treat.
Will start with calling my dealer, which is Vodafone Spain.
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Nope, in my case no pressure whatsoever. It just happened overnight. If it would be pressure, it would be from a faulty manufacturing and elements of the device not fitting well.
Just read the whole case in the other thread, I think I am in for some treat.
Will start with calling my dealer, which is Vodafone Spain.
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mab be it would be from a faulty manufacturing but fix it fast before the screen corrubts from over pressure as this happened on hd1 and they did not want to fix it under warranty
If this happened to me and I couldn't get rid of it, I would go ballistic if HTC claimed it wasn't covered by the warranty. What a total piss take.
i can understand the newton ring effect on resistive screens, but on capacitive screens using glass - i find it hard to believe.
Yes, ardsar. My thougths exactly.
I had Newton rings on my touch hd. And I was informed that that is imposible on capacative screen because it is made of hard material, top layer cannot fall on the lower one.
Whatever it is, I hope it's not a recurring issue. In my thread three HD2 had that issue, and now another one...
Exactly Lukass, I hope this is just coincidence.
I just reflashed the original ROM and will take it this afternoon. In the end I decided not to try to get rid of it myself, since it is now plain visible. And I only had it for 2 weeks, so of it goes.
Let's see what they say.
I had this, repaired by repair service under warranty. The report said it was newton ring.
well, I just brought it in, estimated return is 11th March, let's hope that it will be quicker!
cheers!
Yes it is a newton ring caused by pressure perhaps if you keep the phone in the trouser pocket which is tight.I had the same but as repaired under warranty in 2 days.
Be careful not put to much pressure when putting the battery in, since its a very thin layer between the battery and the LCD. I think this can cause the LCD come in contact with the digitizer if you are not careful.
propably heating issue
has anyone got the idea that this may have been caused by heat? maybe when the internal components of the phone heats up this causes the gap (spot) on the screen. can anyone confirm what is behind the spot? is it the processor? i've got this idea because before switching to hd2 i was using SE xperia x1 and maybe most of you are aware of the cracking issues of the silver casing. well according to my local SE representative this cracking was caused by heating when using wifi. it was covered by warranty since it's a manufacturing defect. HD2 also heats up when using wifi and maybe thats what causing this problem. well its just my idea. feel free to share yours.
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ftrippie said:
Hi Guys,
This morning I suddenly noticed black 'liquid' spots 'behind' my screen. The screen stills works perfectly, but not sure what to do with these spots.
Should I bring it in for repair (reflashing to original ROM, etc)?
These are spots like we used to see on LCD screens, if you press the screen, they get bigger. If I take out the battery and press from the inside, the spots move as well. I reckon there is some pressure build up in the device and would like to open it myself, but that would void the warrenty of course.
Attached 2 photos, 1 with screen off (clearly visable) and 1 with screen on (not really bothersome).
anybody seen this before?
FTrippie
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i had the exactly the same problem, and fixed it!!!! what i did was to heat it up with a hair dryer while it was on charge(this causes the battery to heat up as well) the spot started to shrink slowly took around 2 hours, but it didnt solve my problem total, as when it cools down the spot would comeback but not as large as b4. so getting pissed of with it i put it on charge from my laptop and placed my hd2 behind the air vent of my laptop(where the heat escapes) and continued working, i forgot my phone was there for about 5-8 hours. when i remembered it was there i moved it, whole phone was very hot not so hot that i couldn't hold it but hot enough. the spot had gone totally. but i thought it would comeback when cooled, so i decided to cool it slowly placing it back behind my laptop but moving it further away at 10 min intervals until it was around a foot a half away from the heat. i now have my hd2 working fine. with no spots.... my theory on this is that the liquid had been pushed else where within the phone as i couldn't see any liquid seeping from the phone so by heating the whole phone wherever the liquid was it thinned and cover the spot but upon cooling it would compress again dont quite understand how i worked around that but it worked
UPDATE: The phone is magically fixed!
Hey guys!
So i was at a party 2 nights ago, and I lost my S2. I finally found it in the morning, it had been outside all night, and then I realised that it had been raining heavily.
I took the battery, sim card and micro sd card out and placed the phone somewhere warm and let it dry for about a day and a half. I plugged it in earlier, and it started charging fine, and then I turned the phone on.
It booted up. The hardware buttons are working fine, and the touch buttons below the screen also work, but the screen is completely unresponsive
EDIT: Just as I posted this, i got signal, so only problem i can see is the touch-screen
Is there anything I can do, or is this phone screwed?
I cant remember if I have Vodafone's insurance or not, I'm praying to god I do :/
Put it in a bag of rice and let it dry out even more
Look this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1128594
You'll find some tips that might be useful
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Put it in a bag of rice and let it dry out even more
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I was gonna say.... put it in rice. Should dry up faster
Had good result with silicate packets (the little bags in shoeboxes and many electrical goods) and rice. But let everything dry for days and don't reassemble - left my old PMP for 5 days after a toilet swim, still working. Smells great too. Honest.
Thanks for the replies guys. I've now put the phone in a bag of rice so I guess I just have to wait and see.
Lol keep us updated!
The problem could by the fact that the digitizer on capacitive screens are very sensitive, it sounds as if that may have been damaged.l I would think that the only thing you can do is to replace the touch screen, because it is gorilla glass and the fact the entire phone would need dismantling, If it isn't insured I would expect it wouldn't be cheap to get replaced. But you should be thankful that you entire phone didn't die, I mean you were quite lucky there. I broke my old hero by leaving it out side for 5-10 min whilst it was raining.
Bad news guys, its still not working.
Cant believe I let this happen, I need some trousers with tighter pockets for this damn phone! (and perhaps not carry it with me when I'm drinking haha)
Luckily its covered under my home insurance.
Do I get a new one or get it repaired?
Edit: Its also bloody ironic that I had just put a pattern unlock screen on my phone, so now I cant back up the contents because its locked! Is there any way to get round this? Or external ways to control the phone so I can get into it?
Cheers
There's insurance that covers phone water damage?
Hazlynch, you really need to keep it much, much longer than one day in the rice.
Trust me, apart from my aforementioned toilet episode, I've also lost phones and PMPs in the snow - all have worked again, but the shortest dessicating time was 3 days.
One day is simply not enough - not saying 100% it'll work after 5 days, but 100% certain it won't after one.
For the record, lost my Cowon S9 (OLED touchscreen) in a snowdrift - 5 days dessicating and worked - still going strong.
Ah right thanks for that info! From what I heard about the digitizer being sensitive I'm not very hopeful, but it wont harm to leave it in the rice longer.
I wasn't with my S9 either, but it surprised me, especially also being a touchscreen device too.
Remember to disassemble as much as you can from the phone - all cards and battery out but also in the box/bag - you need to expose as much surface area as possible of the device to the dessicant.
Try my silicate bag tip posted earlier too!
Let us know wha'ppen?
Ready to give it a try? How's it looking/feeling?
I managed to find some silica packets like you said so I put them in with the rice.
Just turned it on, but still no touchscreen responce
hazlynch said:
I managed to find some silica packets like you said so I put them in with the rice.
Just turned it on, but still no touchscreen responce
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Shame - not optimistic.. A couple more days won't hurt if you have the patience!
Yeah, I wont be able to get anything done about the insurance stuff for a few days anyway, so I'll leave it in there for longer. Starting to miss it now! Haha.
Oh and thanks again for everyone's help on this!
My situation has taken an unexpected turn... Went into vodafone a couple of weeks ago and explained that the touchscreen had stopped working.
They tried to factory reset and do other things to fix it to no avail, so they sent it off to their repair centre to fix.
I received it back today, with a letter which stated that it was thoroughly tested and inspected, and that they found that the fault had been caused by water damage. They explained that water damage falls outside of the manufacturers warranty and they could not repair it.
They also sent a picture which helped to show the extent of the corrosion, which looked a bit nasty.
I turned on the phone anyway when i recieved it, and to my great surprise... it is working - apparently flawlessly.
So it is a happy ending - and has proved to me how badass this phone is
hazlynch said:
My situation has taken an unexpected turn... Went into vodafone a couple of weeks ago and explained that the touchscreen had stopped working.
They tried to factory reset and do other things to fix it to no avail, so they sent it off to their repair centre to fix.
I received it back today, with a letter which stated that it was thoroughly tested and inspected, and that they found that the fault had been caused by water damage. They explained that water damage falls outside of the manufacturers warranty and they could not repair it.
They also sent a picture which helped to show the extent of the corrosion, which looked a bit nasty.
I turned on the phone anyway when i recieved it, and to my great surprise... it is working - apparently flawlessly.
So it is a happy ending - and has proved to me how badass this phone is
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This has me worried haha. My SGS2 has recently took a bit of a bath as well. The phone worked perfectly fine after sitting off overnight drying out. However after about 3 days it started random hang up and shut offs. I sent it in to a repair center a week ago and i am just hoping for the best. I dont have high hopes that they will replace it as it was water damage but i suppose its worth a shot for a $600 phone.
If they dont replace/repair it i will be taking it apart and cleaning it in hopes that i can make it work.
Here is my old sgs2 after a dip in the ocean. No insurance either. What you guys think?
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About 4 months ago I was drunk and did something to my phone. A dint indicates I dropped it and it was raining heavily the night it happened. I can't remember what I did, but the result was a screen with a loss of contrast and horizontal lines and a broken touch screen. It also refused to charge.
After a few hours, the touch screen started working again and aside from the dodgy screen it worked perfectly, so I just put up with it until last week when I dropped it again (I know, I'm incredibly clumsy. I was sober this time though ). The touch screen once again stopped working, and this time it didn't fix itself.
I sent to phone off to Samsung but they sent it back stating they won't fix it due to water damage. Perhaps it did get wet that night, but it has been working for 4 months. Surely something can be done with the screen, and could water even cause this?
Basically, what are my options now? Does this sound like something that might be simple to fix myself or should I get an quote from a third party repair shop? If so, how much am I looking at for a repair? The contract ends in 4 months, so I'd prefer to not pay a great deal.
Thanks for the help!
On my Xperia Z2 components of the phone can be seen through back glass, is this a factory defect or is it normal.? Plus after 4.4.4 update stamina mode stopped working on my phone, after screen goes off I still receive messages and notifications but after 10-15 mins stamina mode starts working. Before update stamina mode used to work right when screen used to go off. Please help. Here is link to image of back side of phone
I don't have those kind of problems.Stamina mode working fine and the glass hides everything on its back.Give the phone to Sony's centre.
thats kinda weird my z2 cannot be seen through back glass. haha
honestly, that's actually kind of cool
It kinda seems like your back of phone somehow went through immense heat. Did you let the phone get exposed to heat? Or is it normal usage?
I used to get that too after I use hair drier to heat my phone after some moisture get into my phone innards. Putting heat on highest switch hoping that the moiseture would evaporate... It wasn't work though.. And I get the effect just like your picture
Try to reset your phone to by flashing original firmware to solve the stamina mode problem. Hardware wise, I don't think it's going to have any effect but visual looks. If you don't like it you can sent to Sony for repair (and also ask them to install firmware for you) but it might cost you a bit.
Regards
alightsmit said:
On my Xperia Z2 components of the phone can be seen through back glass, is this a factory defect or is it normal.? Plus after 4.4.4 update stamina mode stopped working on my phone, after screen goes off I still receive messages and notifications but after 10-15 mins stamina mode starts working. Before update stamina mode used to work right when screen used to go off. Please help. Here is link to image of back side of phone
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This happend to mine to, but after I had a little accident. I accidently dropped it on a small patch of water and one of ports popped open. You can imagine my desperation when it happened. I grabbed it as fast as I could, but I could see that a little bit of water poured in (the SIM card was a little bit wet), but it didn't affect the device, everything is working propperly.
My guess is a very small quantity of moisture got is and "lit up" the components. I tried leaving it in a small bowl with raw rice, those silicon gel balls and even vacuuming through one of the ports, but it is still there.
There is no sign of internal moisture on either camera, light/proximity sensors or the flash LED, though.
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I can see the components on the back if my phone.. Phone is working perfectly, remember, its only glass with a film on
I recently smashed the screen on my Z2 whilst on holiday and I got a replacement from my insurance. I was using the replacement in water, everything seemed ok but a few hours later I noticed the camera lens was full of water.
When I looked at the device closer I noticed I could see the components through the back glass and I never noticed this with my original device.
I got another replacement the next day which I cannot see through the glass and I have tested In water perfectly fine.
This could all be coincidence but I thought I would share my experience!
keyz86 said:
I recently smashed the screen on my Z2 whilst on holiday and I got a replacement from my insurance. I was using the replacement in water, everything seemed ok but a few hours later I noticed the camera lens was full of water.
When I looked at the device closer I noticed I could see the components through the back glass and I never noticed this with my original device.
I got another replacement the next day which I cannot see through the glass and I have tested In water perfectly fine.
This could all be coincidence but I thought I would share my experience!
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Earlier batch devices have more faults, perhaps your unit was replaced with a defective one
regarding see through issue
Thank you people for your vies, yes I took my phone in pool, but when I came out everything was fine, weather temperature was around 34°c, after that I went in ac room and when I tried to click picture, I saw fog on front and back lenses. I kept my phone in sunlight for few hours and everything went away, my phone is working perfecly fine no issues except stamina mode, the white strip under Sim tray is also white, it hasn't turn red so I guess water did not go through ports, I think that moisture might have went in through mic or headphones jack, because ports were all tightly closed. I am scared to go to service center because center near my place is very rude, they blame everything on customer only, I am happy that my phone is working fine, what if I go there and they ask for money to fix it . I don't want to screw up my phone, I bought it 2 months back
Hello, I actually have a small problem on my phone.. I searched for the solutions but I am unable to find a reliable fix.. Everybody has a quite different type of this problem..
Phone model: Meizu m2 note
Previous os : Flyme 5(stock)
Current OS: Cm 12.1 (by Moyster on xda)
SCREEN FLICKERING
Well, before I start I would like to say that my phone has actually survived a water bath.. The phone fell in the swimming pool when my friends were trying to click a pic.. It didn't switch on, on the same day, but I disassembled it completely, and let it dry for a week.. Later the phone worked completely fine.. It's been 3 months since the incident...
Well the problem now is the SCREEN FLICKERING.. I guess It has nothing to do with the water damage cause that was almost 3 months back and this problem started around a month ago, when I was on flyme 5. And nope, the phone has never fallen off my hands.. The phone works fine for maybe the first 30 minutes after keeping it idle for a long time... The screen flickers even during the bootup, fastboot, and even in recovery..
I have two Meizu m2 note in my home.. The other one is my mom's phone.. And I almost update same roms on both the phones.. And my mom's phone is working completely fine and not facing this problem.. I don't have a warranty for this anymore, but I can still give it to the company's service center.. The main reason I posted this thread is because I just wanna know if this is a software or a hardware problem.. Cause in few other threads they said that this had sumthng to do with the kernel and stuff.. I don't wanna leave my phone at a service center for 2 months if this is fixable at home..
Not the complete screen flickers, but only the upper top part of the screen..
I have attached a YouTube link for a perfect view of the screen.. The phone on the video is my phone..!
https://youtu.be/Bw1QVspTw7M
I would really appreciate if you would help me on this.. thank you..
[email protected] said:
Hello, I actually have a small problem on my phone.. I searched for the solutions but I am unable to find a reliable fix.. Everybody has a quite different type of this problem..
Phone model: Meizu m2 note
Previous os : Flyme 5(stock)
Current OS: Cm 12.1 (by @Moyster on xda)
SCREEN FLICKERING
Well, before I start I would like to say that my phone has actually survived a water bath.. The phone fell in the swimming pool when my friends were trying to click a pic.. It didn't switch on, on the same day, but I disassembled it completely, and let it dry for a week.. Later the phone worked completely fine.. It's been 3 months since the incident...
Well the problem now is the SCREEN FLICKERING.. I guess It has nothing to do with the water damage cause that was almost 3 months back and this problem started around a month ago, when I was on flyme 5. And nope, the phone has never fallen off my hands.. The phone works fine for maybe the first 30 minutes after keeping it idle for a long time... The screen flickers even during the bootup, fastboot, and even in recovery..
I have two Meizu m2 note in my home.. The other one is my mom's phone.. And I almost update same roms on both the phones.. And my mom's phone is working completely fine and not facing this problem.. I don't have a warranty for this anymore, but I can still give it to the company's service center.. The main reason I posted this thread is because I just wanna know if this is a software or a hardware problem.. Cause in few other threads they said that this had sumthng to do with the kernel and stuff.. I don't wanna leave my phone at a service center for 2 months if this is fixable at home..
Not the complete screen flickers, but only the upper top part of the screen..
I have attached a YouTube link for a perfect view of the screen.. The phone on the video is my phone..!
https://youtu.be/Bw1QVspTw7M
I would really appreciate if you would help me on this.. thank you..
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It's a hardware issue
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DodoGTA said:
It's a hardware issue
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Is there any way to fix it, or i have to give it to the service center..?
Well, I asked one the senior members of XDA, and got this reply.. yes, it was helpful...!
if your phone went in a pool and you disassembled it and made it working again, you might have forgotten to re-sit the cables / cables connectors, and the more you use the phone, the looser it gets....
Considering you said 3 months (and I'll assume India is a humid country), this might be a connector having corrosion too (I know it happens a lot to my cousin in the Caribean islands).
If that flickering keeps happening even after you check cables and corrosion, I guess (considering meizu parts are cheap) your only solution is to change the LCD screen (as this is a miniature part, some water can get stuck in really tiny/enclosed space and make a short-circuit/corrosion).
Assuming this happened 3 months after the "pool drama" ( ) you should probably be able to repair your phone, the board works, the battery works, if it's not the cables or corrosion, it's the LCD display.. And if all that doesn't work, contact Meizu
[email protected] said:
Well, I asked one the senior members of XDA, and got this reply.. yes, it was helpful...!
if your phone went in a pool and you disassembled it and made it working again, you might have forgotten to re-sit the cables / cables connectors, and the more you use the phone, the looser it gets....
Considering you said 3 months (and I'll assume India is a humid country), this might be a connector having corrosion too (I know it happens a lot to my cousin in the Caribean islands).
If that flickering keeps happening even after you check cables and corrosion, I guess (considering meizu parts are cheap) your only solution is to change the LCD screen (as this is a miniature part, some water can get stuck in really tiny/enclosed space and make a short-circuit/corrosion).
Assuming this happened 3 months after the "pool drama" ( ) you should probably be able to repair your phone, the board works, the battery works, if it's not the cables or corrosion, it's the LCD display.. And if all that doesn't work, contact Meizu
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You never told me if you fixed the issue tho
Solved!
Moyster said:
You never told me if you fixed the issue tho
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I'm soo sorry I did not inform you about this! :victory:
Well, it was just like u said.. I disassembled the phone completely and found salt like white powder all over the motherboard.. Even inside the cable connectors!
Soo I cleaned it up using a soft brush with some liquid..
Blew some pressurized air with a small air gun I have, just to remove the small dust contents.. I also noticed that the connectors have turned brownish in some parts. . But..!
The flickering has almost reduced 90%..! Before it flickered all day long and now it happens only once or twice a day..! That too only for 5 to 10 minutes..!
Well it's okay now.. I didn't spend any money, or give it to the service center and wait for weeks..
Thank you @Moyster.. I wud have never even tried this if u didn't tell me to.. I was planning on giving it to the company itself.. Haha... :fingers-crossed: