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Note 2 with touchwiz or stock android? Vote!

Ok so i always hear a lot of people saying how they dislike touchwiz and that stock android is the best blah blah blah... So I was wondering, would you guys have preferred a note 2 with stock android and no S-pen or do you love it with touchwiz? I'm asking because I love touchwiz, I think its the best skin out there and it is a big reason why the note 2 is so awesome. But would you have preferred a note 2 with the same super AMOLED screen, same 3100mah battery but no spen, no touchwiz ( bye bye multi-window, spen features.....) running stock android?

Touchsh*t is slow and ugly as sh*t. That's why I delete touchwiz launcher and use Nova Prime launcher. Stock android iterface is much faster and smoother. Too bad that CyanogenMod for all samsung phones is very very unstable and buggy. I'm forced to use samsung official rom's with half touchwiz (with deleting touchwiz launcher). Will be great if someone can do normal non buggy CyanogenROM and port S Planner, S Note and Camera app into it.
Besides, multiwindows from Note 2 sucks. Look at Galaxy Note 10.1 multiwindows, I tried it at mobile store, it is great!

I've been running cm based roms since the first galaxy s (galaxy s, galaxy s2 note 1, galaxy s3, galaxy note 2), however, I made the switch back to touch wiz on my note today. Reasoning: I just feel it's more useful than a cm based rom on this device, and it's not as bad it use to be (believe me). So my vote goes to touch wiz ATM. Will I ever switch back to a cm based rom? Of course, but it's not a must have for me, for the first time.
*these are my options, I'm not basing anyone, or anything, and if you feel as if I insulted you...---- off (;*
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I hate TW, but CM is such unstable because of Sammy not releasing sources..
So I'm using TW.
I'm now waiting for MIUI V5, as its 100% stable and doesn't have TW look. (only features and base)

I don't hate Touchwiz but I'm using Nova Launcher Prime. And you don't lose very much with using a third party launcher. I can still use popup note, s-pen, multi window etc. My toggles in notification bar are still the same. I don't know what people are losing with using a third party launcher. It only adds to the phone.

TW is a framework, not just a launcher
Between those two, TW any day, any time. Stock Android is nothing but a hype.
'Swyped' from my GT-N7100

cm=fast+buggy (for now)
tw=a bit slow+stable
so own choice
for me as long as I can make call and play game, it doenst matter

I like TouchWiz(stock rom) as it's stable and quite fast. At the moment, CM based ROMs are too unstable.

anonymous572 said:
Touchsh*t is slow and ugly as sh*t. That's why I delete touchwiz launcher and use Nova Prime launcher. Stock android iterface is much faster and smoother. Too bad that CyanogenMod for all samsung phones is very very unstable and buggy. I'm forced to use samsung official rom's with half touchwiz (with deleting touchwiz launcher). Will be great if someone can do normal non buggy CyanogenROM and port S Planner, S Note and Camera app into it.
Besides, multiwindows from Note 2 sucks. Look at Galaxy Note 10.1 multiwindows, I tried it at mobile store, it is great!
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Touchwiz isn't just the launcher for Christ's sake. This is why Touchwiz gets all this hate, people not realising this simple point. Yes, the Touchwiz LAUNCHER is crappy and a lot of people including myself use one from the store, but Touchwiz itself with all its features is by far better than the featureless stock android (CM ect..)

Note 2 is my first Android device that I'm using completely stock...
I don't know why. ... I had many other android phones and tablets and all of them were flashed custon roms and kernels only couple of hours after purchase. ..
I love my note 2!
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Yup I use apex launcher and S pen multi window and all the features work in it I don't like touchwiz just try apex launcher. Its awesome and highly customisable with air view works in it and holo look. Touchwiz is not that customizable however its good for the ppl who wants simple , fast and easy UI.
I recommend using a launcher mainly with NOTE 2 use Nova and Apex.
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Stock android all the way. Its indeed better than touchwhiz.

aviralsingh16 said:
Yup I use apex launcher and S pen multi window and all the features work in it I don't like touchwiz just try apex launcher
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All phones I've had previously I've always ran CM. Once I got the Note 2 didn't find it necessary. Phone runs great on TW and has great features that I actually use at work and home life. And the battery is just perfect.

anonymous572 said:
Besides, multiwindows from Note 2 sucks.
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What?!
I don't even know where to begin...
No. I will exercise restraint. IMO, multiwindow is and can be very helpful. Sure, it's much more useful on 10.1-inch screen, but that doesn't make it less useful on Note2 and its 5.5-inch screen. It's multitasking heaven IMO.
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Both are good...
Friends,
We are on Android, the most powerful OS currently on market (I think everybody in XDA will agree to this). Then why do you people worry. You can always switch back and forth between them.
You have Titanium Backup if you are rooted and even you have Carbon for unrooted device. So better give it a try for all the roms available. All of them are great. And i personally love CM 10.1 with all its additional customization features.
So i used to switch back and forth between them
And i also heard that some devs have started working on dual booting, but i am not sure about the recent updates on it.
I love both, and at the same time, yes, Stock on Note II is excellent.

B3311 said:
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Originally Posted by aviralsingh16 View Post
Yup I use apex launcher and S pen multi window and all the features work in it I don't like touchwiz just try apex launcher
No warez allowed here. Reported.
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@B3311 Please explain what you mean as apex launcher is not warez.
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Your poll leaves out another option and that is keep most of what it TouchWiz but add customization by using Nova.

I think by getting rid of touchwiz you're losing too much functionality with the phone. I've tried a few different roms and launchers. From completely different cm10.1 to just nova launcher and I always come back to touchwiz... There is no lag, from what I can tell, on touchwiz. Everything works the way it should. It's not worth it to lose the features that samsung added to this phone. If I wanted to do that I could have kept my note 1 running cm9.

donec said:
@B3311 Please explain what you mean as apex launcher is not warez.
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As you are well aware, Blackmarket Alpha is a warez site. Your editing skills are marvellous. Idiot.

AOKP (or CM, or AOSPA..) all the way. Retains the functionality of the S-Pen and only loses multiwindow, which I don't find useful anyway. Also, it allows me to use the latest version of Android (4.2.2) which has a useful account manager that lets my friends use a completely separate account from me.
I don't necessarily dislike Touchwiz but it's not as aesthetically pleasing, and I have a hard time understanding why it's about 500MB heavier than AOSP.

[Q] Note 3 and Touchwiz

I'm about to get a new Note 3 delivered. On my S3 I like using Nova launcher for it's customising of home screens. So, I am wondering if anyone with a Note 3 has experience with NOT using TW? i.e. what things might break or what functions of the "WOW, Looikitthat" new functions will not work if I don't use TW?
Thinking of air gestures, single-hand screen-shrinking, menu pop-ups from the spen etc.

Journyman16 said:
I'm about to get a new Note 3 delivered. On my S3 I like using Nova launcher for it's customising of home screens. So, I am wondering if anyone with a Note 3 has experience with NOT using TW? i.e. what things might break or what functions of the "WOW, Looikitthat" new functions will not work if I don't use TW?
Thinking of air gestures, single-hand screen-shrinking, menu pop-ups from the spen etc.
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I use Nova on my Note 3, It makes no difference to any of the functions at all except the saving of RAM compared to using TW. - Nothing will be affected using a custom launcher... well... One, the my magazine app bit like HTC's Blinkfeed which works when you scroll upwards on the screen (just a space /ram hog, actually dunno anyone who actually uses it?!)

Cool, thanks for the reply. Nova it will be... And if My Magazine is anything like Flipbook (or whatever that thing was) I won't be keeping it on there anyway.

[Q] Note 3 Snapdragon ROM

Hello,
I'd like to ask if there are any Note 3 custom ROMs that have all the bloatware and TouchWiz removed but still contain all the nice Samsung apps like the S Memo or S Health.
I've been looking for one for a long time but wasn't able to find it...
Thank you very much in advance!
Greetings!

Uftherr said:
Hello,
I'd like to ask if there are any Note 3 custom ROMs that have all the bloatware and TouchWiz removed but still contain all the nice Samsung apps like the S Memo or S Health.
I've been looking for one for a long time but wasn't able to find it...
Thank you very much in advance!
Greetings!
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try xnote you can remove all bloat with aroma and install nova or apex

Does Nova or Apex affect the performance? Cause I think the TouchWiz stuff will still run in background...

Uftherr said:
Does Nova or Apex affect the performance? Cause I think the TouchWiz stuff will still run in background...
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dont know when i was on tw i didnt use a launcher

Uftherr said:
Does Nova or Apex affect the performance? Cause I think the TouchWiz stuff will still run in background...
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If you want all samsung features, like s pen, multiwindow etc then you have to keep touchwiz. If you don't like the look, install a launcher from google play and prevent touchwiz from running by killing it with an app like home manager.
Sent from Note 3 SM-N9005

What I would lose not using Touchwiz UI?

(never used touchwiz before)
Maybe S-Pen menu won't appear?
What about multiple windows on a single screen?
etc.
How deeply touchwiz was integrated in Note 3 case?

If you change your launcher - all TW funcionality: multiwindow, s-pen will work too I recommend google now launcher. Simple and fast

darkkain said:
If you change your launcher - all TW funcionality: multiwindow, s-pen will work too I recommend google now launcher. Simple and fast
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I use Nova now and I'm happy. But my phone is Nexus and I don't loose any phone's functionality with Nova, because Nexus phone doesn't have any.
Thanks for answer.

bat0nas said:
I use Nova now and I'm happy. But my phone is Nexus and I don't loose any phone's functionality with Nova, because Nexus phone doesn't have any.
Thanks for answer.
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I have a nexus 5 and note 3. Touchwiz is necessary for all major advertised features such as the multiwindow, spen window, ultra power saving mode etc. So yes without touchwiz you are losing a fundamental part of the phone. however, in my instance I run touchwiz and aosp roms on my note 3. I have duplicated many features that is touchwiz based on a stock android rom. It takes multiple apps and doesn't work exactly the same but does overall the same things. With the note 4 there are many more features in the Spen so you will be taking a bigger hit switching from touchwiz to stock android.
Edit: Also, the stock touchwiz camera is lost and A LOT of its features such as 4k video recording. and it seems the quality on the touchwiz cam is better than google or aosp camera. There are some close alternatives for the camera however.

Well... that pretty much answers my question.
Thanks.
Touchwiz for me then.
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You will loose the lag also.

Lose.

Hi,
I used TW for a few days and now switched to Nova.
Really can't find anything that doesn't work compared to TW.
Both sidebars (nav keys and app shortcuts) work, stylus menu works.
Anybody noticed any Note (3 or 4) features that doesn't work with a non stock launcher?
Thanks!!

_INSPIREed said:
I have a nexus 5 and note 3. Touchwiz is necessary for all major advertised features such as the multiwindow, spen window, ultra power saving mode etc. So yes without touchwiz you are losing a fundamental part of the phone. however, in my instance I run touchwiz and aosp roms on my note 3. I have duplicated many features that is touchwiz based on a stock android rom. It takes multiple apps and doesn't work exactly the same but does overall the same things. With the note 4 there are many more features in the Spen so you will be taking a bigger hit switching from touchwiz to stock android.
Edit: Also, the stock touchwiz camera is lost and A LOT of its features such as 4k video recording. and it seems the quality on the touchwiz cam is better than google or aosp camera. There are some close alternatives for the camera however.
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I would have to disagree with almost all that is said here.
Verizon N4 : Thank me if I helped ya

xtrandrix said:
I would have to disagree with almost all that is said here.
Verizon N4 : Thank me if I helped ya
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care to elaborate

The topic is about using a custom launcher on the stock Note 4 ROM.
So all the features you mentioned (mukti window, spen, ultrapower saving etc) works perfectly fine with Nova launcher.
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bat0nas said:
(never used touchwiz before)
Maybe S-Pen menu won't appear?
What about multiple windows on a single screen?
etc.
How deeply touchwiz was integrated in Note 3 case?
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bat0nas said:
The topic is about using a custom launcher on the stock Note 4 ROM.
So all the features you mentioned (mukti window, spen, ultrapower saving etc) works perfectly fine with Nova launcher.
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Gotcha. I misunderstood your first post. When you referred to the "touchwiz ui" and how deeply touchwiz was integrated, I assumed you meant if you were to flash an aosp rom instead of a custom launcher :good:

Themes on Note 4 stock android?

Hey all,
Need a new Android phone and I think the Note 4 is the way to go, I've had one before and I enjoyed it but that was a while ago. Note 5 doesn't have the removal battery that I need.
I hate the Samsung theme though it's so ugly, so is there any way I can change it easily to something stock android looking with a custom rom?
Thanks

jameslfc5 said:
Hey all,
Need a new Android phone and I think the Note 4 is the way to go, I've had one before and I enjoyed it but that was a while ago. Note 5 doesn't have the removal battery that I need.
I hate the Samsung theme though it's so ugly, so is there any way I can change it easily to something stock android looking with a custom rom?
Thanks
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offtopic- don't buy a note 4 its has aged now ....camera isn't too good and it lags.

jameslfc5 said:
Hey all,
Need a new Android phone and I think the Note 4 is the way to go, I've had one before and I enjoyed it but that was a while ago. Note 5 doesn't have the removal battery that I need.
I hate the Samsung theme though it's so ugly, so is there any way I can change it easily to something stock android looking with a custom rom?
Thanks
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I love my Note 4 so I would highly recommend it. The Note 5 is a total deal-breaker for me with no removable battery and no SD card slot either. The mind boggles with those choices by Samsung. Anyway, I totally support the move to the Note 4. It is a damn fine phone. Although the second poster is right, the camera can tend to lag. But personally, it's not a big issue for me. In fact, I've just upgraded to an S7 so we can sell it and get a Note 4 for my best friend. That's how much we love this model.
As for theme changing, the easiest way to do that is to just load a launcher onto your device. Even the best launchers have free options.
My top 3 favourite Launchers are Nova, Apex and LINE Launchers.
If you prefer fancy widgets and 3D options, look at Go Launcher or Next Launcher. But they are riddled with ads for their other products.
You will find a lot more options available through a Launcher in terms of customising your device to look and feel how you want it to. For most, it's as simple as downloading a theme and activating it through your launcher settings. Very easy and straight forward.

You don't need a custom ROM for that, http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/official-layers-bitsyko-apps-rro-t3012172
And this is one of the best time to buy Note 4 by the way, price is low, camera is still solid, one of the fastest I have used, don't know exactly how much faster the camera on the Note 5 is to call Note 4 camera laggy and slow!, but it is irrelevant to me, can't ever touch a mess of greasy glass nuisance.

Anthro.Girl said:
I love my Note 4 so I would highly recommend it. The Note 5 is a total deal-breaker for me with no removable battery and no SD card slot either. The mind boggles with those choices by Samsung. Anyway, I totally support the move to the Note 4. It is a damn fine phone. Although the second poster is right, the camera can tend to lag. But personally, it's not a big issue for me. In fact, I've just upgraded to an S7 so we can sell it and get a Note 4 for my best friend. That's how much we love this model.
As for theme changing, the easiest way to do that is to just load a launcher onto your device. Even the best launchers have free options.
My top 3 favourite Launchers are Nova, Apex and LINE Launchers.
If you prefer fancy widgets and 3D options, look at Go Launcher or Next Launcher. But they are riddled with ads for their other products.
You will find a lot more options available through a Launcher in terms of customising your device to look and feel how you want it to. For most, it's as simple as downloading a theme and activating it through your launcher settings. Very easy and straight forward.
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Thanks everyone for your comments.
Anthro- I am receiving my Note 4 today and need it for a long plane journey so I can have a removable battery and keep a spare, also I want the SD card function to switch between the phone and my GoPro on holiday. Hopefully with a ROM like Dr.Keaton it will be fast and smooth. As for the theme advice, thanks for that but I like a full theme which themes the full system like the setting and pull down menu etc. I am sure Iw ill figure this all out tonight when playing with my phone.
I may consider the Note 5 in the future but I can't seem to get one in the UK at the minute.
Thanks again