I'm worried that because Sony made the Z3 smaller and thinner than the Z2 while overclocking the processor, it will run into heat problems quickly.
There's already a huge issue with Z2 recording in 4k as users have complained about overheating issues.
I was just watching this youtube hands on video and noticed this
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Im definately avoiding this phone if thats the case. Ill be going for note 4 instead with the snapdragon 805 processor which eats 4k for breakfast!
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Overheating while camera use is a huge issue in Z2 and sony has done nothing to resolve that. I went to the mall and checked xperia z2 in all shop abd outlets. All of them heated up n closed camera while taking simple pictures. 4k is another story. Its impossible to take normal pictures with z2 camera.
Sony needs to fix this, I had a Z2 for a few days and i have never experienced a blazing hot phone before like that Z2. It was really concerning hot.
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No issues on my z2 at all, not even 4k!!!!!
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No issues on my z2 at all, not even 4k!!!!!
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Not possible 5-8 min is max for 4K recording with my Z2. Every Z2 has limit for 4k recording thermal limit.
That device was very hot because it's charging too much time...
Charging is more heater than no charging when using.
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thanks for pointing this out, OP. i was looking for some indication one way or the other as to whether overheating would be an issue. could be, like @maple_mak was suggesting, that charging might be a contributing factor.
wonder what the app was though.
if it's GPS, that'll suck for Ingress + external battery pack.
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thanks for pointing this out, OP. i was looking for some indication one way or the other as to whether overheating would be an issue. could be, like @maple_mak was suggesting, that charging might be a contributing factor.
wonder what the app was though.
if it's GPS, that'll suck for Ingress + external battery pack.
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to answer your question, it was the camera app.
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That device was very hot because it's charging too much time...
Charging is more heater than no charging when using.
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Ding ding ding. This is the culprit.
I wouldn't be worried about overheating at all.
I dunno why more manufacturers don't make metal backed cases then like the motorola. I mean dissipate the heat. Glass is a thermal insulator
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I dunno why more manufacturers don't make metal backed cases then like the motorola. I mean dissipate the heat. Glass is a thermal insulator
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Imagine, who will hold super heated metal case? :-S
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Imagine, who will hold super heated metal case? :-S
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In fact, glass spreads heat just like aluminium.
no it does not.
Glass has a thermal conductivity of below 1 (which say it barely conducts heat) where Aluminium has over 200 (good conductor). This value tells us how fast heat is conducted (or spreaded to use your words)
What you might have meant is thermal capacity, which is of absolutely no interest in this case. Thermal capacity for glass and aluminium is rather similar and tells you how much heat is needed to heat something up.
As the glass on the back of our phones is rather thin heat will still get trough pretty quickly.
If you talk about over-heating issues, you must also consider the fact that 4k recording is not as easy like how 1080p recording works. It requires a lot of processing power. So no matter what phone you are on, and you want to record 4k, there would definitely be this overheating issue occuring. (Tested on the S5, G3, Z2, Z3)
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If you talk about over-heating issues, you must also consider the fact that 4k recording is not as easy like how 1080p recording works. It requires a lot of processing power. So no matter what phone you are on, and you want to record 4k, there would definitely be this overheating issue occuring. (Tested on the S5, G3, Z2, Z3)
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so you´re saying that all of those phones you mention, automatically shut down the camera app after a couple of minutes of recording 4k?
the only difference being that no warnings of overheating keep popping up on the other phones?
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so you´re saying that all of those phones you mention, automatically shut down the camera app after a couple of minutes of recording 4k?
the only difference being that no warnings of overheating keep popping up on the other phones?
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yes, Every phone will shutdown soon or later if you record 4K video for long.
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yes, Every phone will shutdown soon or later if you record 4K video for long.
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yeah ok, but "sooner or later" compared to the z3 (or z2, considering the z3 isn´t even out yet) is the real q here?
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yeah ok, but "sooner or later" compared to the z3 (or z2, considering the z3 isn´t even out yet) is the real q here?
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I believe all Samsung phones (Note 3, S5) have a 5 minute limit on 4k recording.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXsyK5YCid8
4K heat test: LG G3, Samsung Galaxy Note 3, S5, Sony Xperia Z2 i know its a little older phones, but it summerized some of your question.
Just take a look at it.
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Its says that G3, Note 3 and S5 have a cap limit at 5minutes of 4K video reccording, while z2 records till it get too hot (that means it can record longer then other phones in good conditions.
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Good Morning from Germany,
Sony have officialy answered on this Problem here you can read that :
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/126134
Now i decided to write an Email to XPERIABLOG.NET that they should something about the Cameraproblem or an image comparison between
HTC One, Galaxy S4 and Xperia Z
Here is the Email :
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and here you can read the article about this Comparison :
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/04/18/camera-shootout-xperia-z-goes-up-against-the-galaxy-s4-and-htc-one/
It's good that this gets more attention, but I don't hope that Sony will only look at this problem as a compression problem, because there is a lot more wrong here.
Sorry but I've had a good test of the Sony camera compared to HTC one and galaxy s3 and the xperia camera edges it barring the odd bit of over compression but I'll take it for less noise and better colour reproduction than both those phones
I believe the z has bigger fish to fry like unforgivable viewing angles, awful speaker quality, lag and ui skipping issues, over heating and odd and inconsistent battery life.
I loved this phone on face value but the more I use it the more I pick it apart
The camera is by far it's best attribute and is better than its competitors right now even if the photos are a little soft.
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I believe the z has bigger fish to fry like unforgivable viewing angles, awful speaker quality, lag and ui skipping issues, over heating and odd and inconsistent battery life.
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Viewing angles: You want to look at the phone from a 45 degree angle? For what reason? Or do you love that other people can read your text's?
Aweful speaker quality: Ok lets put a better speaker in, but remove the whole concept of the phone being water proof/resistant
Lag: Yeah lag..... where!?
ui skipping issues: ??? Examples please.
Over heating: Name 1 phone that doesn't overheat, isn't it logical that the processor becomes hot when it need to process something big?? Since our phone's are made out of glass we will notice it even more, since glass is a good heat conductor (You could/should've known that before you bought the phone)
Inconsistent battery life : Partly true, it also has to do with the apps that you run, so you can't really blame Sony for that.
ANYWAYS.....this topic is about the camera so lets leave other issues aside.
What's all this about the camera, the Zs camera is easily the best I've ever seen. Stop using reviews as a basis for a petition. Many of these sites have their own agenda. I've repeatedly heard them say the Zs camera is worse than that of the iPhone. Well they could have fooled me. That claim doesn't stand up at all. It's biased stupidity.
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What's all this about the camera, the Zs camera is easily the best I've ever seen. Stop using reviews as a basis for a petition. Many of these sites have their own agenda. I've repeatedly heard them say the Zs camera is worse than that of the iPhone. Well they could have fooled me. That claim doesn't stand up at all. It's biased stupidity.
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I don't know about other people, but I've got my own pictures as a reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38823948&postcount=39
Not mine, but you can clearly see that there is too much noise:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38847402&postcount=41
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38858346&postcount=46
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39024438&postcount=76
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I don't know about other people, but I've got my own pictures as a reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38823948&postcount=39
Not mine, but you can clearly see that there is too much noise:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38847402&postcount=41
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38858346&postcount=46
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39024438&postcount=76
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Amazing low light shots..not possible with my previous phones to look so clear (S3 and iphone5).
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You should not expect the same quality pic in a macro shot than in a night shot. With other phone, in those conditions, you would get a nice black photo. In Xperia Z you get a noisy pic, but at least it's not black.
I have to agree with the issue here. Before I even looked at the Xperia subforum, after coming from an S3, I knew straight away that I couldn't take a half decent picture and after 30 or 40 shots didn't get a single image I could use.
I could get a perfect picture on my S3, default settings almost every time, and if not, certainly the second time.
Nobody can say that's placebo caused by popular belief because I never even saw the complaints until I had decided for myself the picture quality was apalling.
the camera app itself is a big problem because it was ported from x1,x2 (windows phones) and tweaked a bit. guys who have/had x1 or x2 know what im talking about
when sony finally makes new or updates camera app some problems might go away
Some camera problems are dued to picture softness. Camera360 automatically "improves" the quality with a focus filter, you should test it.
I haven't read it yet... http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z1-Review_id3427
The photos looks miles better than the photos GsmArena took. It's pretty obvious different Review units has different hw/sf tweaks in them
Sadly, the battery wasn't reviewed. Also, I would have liked to have seen some commentary on the phone's relatively low headphone's output power. I do enjoy my music and I'm concerned this won't be loud enough with my earphones plugged in. I'll definitely be checking out a device before I even seriously consider buying a Z1, but does anyone have any input on this matter?
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Sadly, the battery wasn't reviewed. Also, I would have liked to have seen some commentary on the phone's relatively low headphone's output power. I do enjoy my music and I'm concerned this won't be loud enough with my earphones plugged in. I'll definitely be checking out a device before I even seriously consider buying a Z1, but does anyone have any input on this matter?
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The review just said power output. I mean, if it doesn't sound loud, just crank up the volume. I think the power thing relates to bass or treble. There's an option to increase those settings though.
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The review just said power output. I mean, if it doesn't sound loud, just crank up the volume. I think the power thing relates to bass or treble. There's an option to increase those settings though.
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Sorry, I guess I'm showing my ignorance? But I do know of at least one member here who is experiencing a lack of loudness, and I don't think it's the first time I've read that about the Z1
Surprised
Well, I'm a little agog,.... A good review of a Sony-made mobile phone from Phone Arena. Will wonders never cease?
Well, my handset has dropped by (review up shortly) and I have to say: pleasantly surprised by the camera - yes, the processing could be better in low light but the clarity in daylight, even on a dim and grey Yorkshire day, is actually pretty good. I'm thinking that has summat to do with the software update that I received within moments of booting it up.
ONE FLY IN THE OINTMENT,.... and it's big fella,.....
Sadly, much like GSM Arena, my camera lens appears to have an aberration - a fuzzy area to the left of centre where the focus is out. I don't have time to send it back for replacement before going way on a trip this week but it'll be heading back to O2 and onward to Sony as soon as I get back.
Dear Sony: Quality control,... you might want to look it up.
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Well, I'm a little agog,.... A good review of a Sony-made mobile phone from Phone Arena. Will wonders never cease?
Well, my handset has dropped by (review up shortly) and I have to say: pleasantly surprised by the camera - yes, the processing could be better in low light but the clarity in daylight, even on a dim and grey Yorkshire day, is actually pretty good. I'm thinking that has summat to do with the software update that I received within moments of booting it up.
ONE FLY IN THE OINTMENT,.... and it's big fella,.....
Sadly, much like GSM Arena, my camera lens appears to have an aberration - a fuzzy area to the left of centre where the focus is out. I don't have time to send it back for replacement before going way on a trip this week but it'll be heading back to O2 and onward to Sony as soon as I get back.
Dear Sony: Quality control,... you might want to look it up.
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GSMarena uses a preproduction unit, not the actual retail unit. Look at their unboxing - doesn't have headsets.
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True GSMARENA has pre production unit they have mentioned it in review itself, so this is the true potential of the phone. Absolutely flies, great work Sony!!
pictures look about the same, here's a 1:1 view of their Strong-Light indoor shot.
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as you can see it's still full of grain/over processing. no doubt that pictures look great when not viewed 1:1. What this translates to for the regular user is that some digital zoom/cropping of the 20mp image won't look so great. but when has it ever except on the 1020?
i just expected more from them...
Screen seems good enough now, major problem is bezel and SIZE of device.
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Honestly those two are personal preference, I have small hands and I don't mind it. A lot of devices have big bezels and it doesn't seem to bother a lot of people.
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I set my screen off of auto and up to 90, i cant do dim displays, and every time i run antutu it shuts down. could it be this one device or is it all the g3's
just you
I have very hot weather in the office (AC works bad). And after OTA update my phone was constantly rebooting like 2 min. after startup. I turned it off, waited 5 min to cool it down and then it worked fine...
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wow, such a grown up and not childish reply.
I starting playing golfstar which works the phone pretty hard. At first I noticed how much better the frame rate was compared to my s4, after about 5mins the frame rate went to crap. I can only assume the phone was throttling due to heat. I never got any warnings though
I dont have this problem at all. Was running antutu benchmark two times in a row yesterday with 100% brightness without auto activated, AND charging, and it reached 36C. And its about 27C in this room.
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I starting playing golfstar which works the phone pretty hard. At first I noticed how much better the frame rate was compared to my s4, after about 5mins the frame rate went to crap. I can only assume the phone was throttling due to heat. I never got any warnings though
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ya i think im going to the s5 or the nexus 5, it keeps happening, so im done.
Are you only having a problem trying to do a benchmark at high brightness or are you having problems with regular use? I use Lux for autobrightness and it's bright enough for me and I have no issues with over heating.
Also, I wouldn't downgrade to the Nexus 5 if you're giving up on this phone. Not saying it's a bad phone, but it's comparatively a downgrade. A G2 would be a better downgrade than that or side grade to the S5 or M8 or whatever it is the HTC phone is called.
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Are you only having a problem trying to do a benchmark at high brightness or are you having problems with regular use? I use Lux for autobrightness and it's bright enough for me and I have no issues with over heating.
Also, I wouldn't downgrade to the Nexus 5 if you're giving up on this phone. Not saying it's a bad phone, but it's comparatively a downgrade. A G2 would be a better downgrade than that or side grade to the S5 or M8 or whatever it is the HTC phone is called.
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it was during the bench. But i did a battery pull and ran 3 straight benchmarks with no overheating issues. But then i did the no lag trick and tried again with it powering down
So the next best device is the m8 you say?
kyomagi said:
it was during the bench. But i did a battery pull and ran 3 straight benchmarks with no overheating issues. But then i did the no lag trick and tried again with it powering down
So the next best device is the m8 you say?
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I'd first suggest you just use the phone and not worry about the benchmarks. Benchmarks are meant to push the system so that could be why you're having problems. With daily use, even with the screen as bright as you have it, you may not notice any other issue. Give it a chance first.
And from reviews I've read, it does sound like the M8 is the next best. I almost considered it, but it's about the same size as the G3 with a smaller screen. Fortunately, I'm loving my G3.
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My phone shuts down when reading books on the beach in Turkey. I think the heat sensitiviness is one thing the latest patch should fix , I hope
Mine's never dimmed but it gets warm enough such that it starts throttling back to ~1.6 GHz. Definitely not hot though.
ya i was playing a game and it was def getting pretty hot
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it was during the bench. But i did a battery pull and ran 3 straight benchmarks with no overheating issues. But then i did the no lag trick and tried again with it powering down
So the next best device is the m8 you say?
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The no lag trick, is no real trick, it turns off stuff to keep your device save from overheating, so, that's why it turned off afterwards.
I've kept the stock setting and never had any shutdowns or noticed any performance problems at games or dim, it gets warm sometimes at long gaming, but that's it.
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I set my screen off of auto and up to 90, i cant do dim displays, and every time i run antutu it shuts down. could it be this one device or is it all the g3's
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Have you tried factory reset from start up screen not settings?
i got a different phone, from a different batch, the phone gets hot still, but not too hot and its not shut down yet. so far so good. great phone
If you are returning a phone because it will shut down during a benchmark, then why did you get the phone in the first place?
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I set my screen off of auto and up to 90, i cant do dim displays, and every time i run antutu it shuts down. could it be this one device or is it all the g3's
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You are not alone. Mine can get very hot when playing games (especially when charging), and I have to stop game to cool it down.
The situation gets worse when dual layer case installed. I have to remove the case to cool the phone down.
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dondavis007 said:
My phone shuts down when reading books on the beach in Turkey. I think the heat sensitiviness is one thing the latest patch should fix , I hope
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I am sure mine does "thermal throttling".
When the phone gets hot, Quadrant goes down to 12,xxx.
When the phone cools down, Quadrant goes back to normal (23,xxx).
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If you are returning a phone because it will shut down during a benchmark, then why did you get the phone in the first place?
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sorry, your question does not make sense.
I bought the phone because it had nice specs. i returned the phone because it was apparently defective. My new LG G3 has not overheated to shut down. got a little hot but not bad
I'm still wondering how are NOW the LG G3 are this moment? do they still have overheated issue?
How is the camera in 4k recording? is that fixed?
see video;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdwZbMFT5Pk
It's gonna be hard to let go of my z1, it's been very solid and I have nothing bad to say about it.
just picked up the z3 today, havent really got a chance to play around with it yet but super excited.
I mainly got it for the highres play back so I may just use it as a high res player and keep my z1 as my main.
Pissed that I have to go get a nano sim too, had it been micro sim i'd prob be using it already.
Good new is I can use my dk31 (z1) charger, its a tight fit but it works and charges.
here some pics, I also got the z3 tablet last week......
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Pissed that I have to go get a nano sim too, had it been micro sim i'd prob be using it already.
Good new is I can use my dk31 (z1) charger, its a tight fit but it works and charges.
here some pics, I also got the z3 tablet last week......
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you can cut your micro sim card to fit as nano sim card. just google it , print out the shape and cut it. i did it myself , the chip is always the same among sim cards they just decreased the sourrounding plastic from sim-> micro sim -> nano sim
I'm coming from a black Z1 to a white Z3 Compact.
ended up giving the phone to the wifey......keeping z1 as main and using the tablet for fun
White C6906 to white D5803, kinda miss the Z1 and can't bear selling it XD
Don't miss my Z1 at all. Had to charge it way too often
Im considering changing from z1 compact to z3 compact. How much of a difference is the battery life? Is the screen colour and brightness better?
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Battery life has doubled in my case. It lasts a full day of heavy work
Colors and screen about the same I feel. At least not worse. A bit brighter.
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Battery life has doubled in my case. It lasts a full day of heavy work
Colors and screen about the same I feel. At least not worse. A bit brighter.
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Colours are much better on z3c. I have compared mine to my brother's z1c and i can confirm. They are more real and natural and also the blacks are deeper
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I am considering buying the Z3C, currently own a Z1 and I have had enough of it with the touch screen issue... This isnt carried on at all with the Z3C?
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I am considering buying the Z3C, currently own a Z1 and I have had enough of it with the touch screen issue... This isnt carried on at all with the Z3C?
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No touch screen issues on z3c. Are you talking about those ghost touches? XD i had those on my former Z Ultra and my brother does have it on his z1c. But i am yet to encounter this on my z3c. I say go for it
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hey. i changed from z1c to z3c and I'm fine with it. battery lasts longer (about 30% more time) and holds nearly 2 days now.
with the SIM issue. i also didn't see that it even uses nano SIM. I had a Micro NFC SIM from TMobile Germany and cut it off on the edges to fit. I was kinda afraid to lose the NFC ability, but it went well and all works fine now.
But I have to say I would not have changed from Z1C to Z3C if I didn't get a special offer from my company to buy it at a very low price. The difference between the two is marginal.
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It's gonna be hard to let go of my z1, it's been very solid and I have nothing bad to say about it.
just picked up the z3 today, havent really got a chance to play around with it yet but super excited.
I mainly got it for the highres play back so I may just use it as a high res player and keep my z1 as my main.
Pissed that I have to go get a nano sim too, had it been micro sim i'd prob be using it already.
Good new is I can use my dk31 (z1) charger, its a tight fit but it works and charges.
here some pics, I also got the z3 tablet last week......
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I also went from a Z1C to a Z3c, I really do miss r00t. Ik have always modified my phone with xposed, and running application like TB are essential for me. In addition I would like to be able to install software on the SD card, which is now not possible. So until I can have r00t with the conservation of DRM keys when unlocking the bootloader I will keep using my z1c. The screen btw is much better on the z3c
I just broke my Z1C and now I'm thinking about buying the Z3C.
What do you think of the plastic on the side of the Z3C? The metal frame on the Z1C was better, right?
And what about recording video in slow motion? Is it that good as it appears to be on YouTube?
Do you think I should wait for the Z4C?
Thanks
tiagogrilo said:
I just broke my Z1C and now I'm thinking about buying the Z3C.
What do you think of the plastic on the side of the Z3C? The metal frame on the Z1C was better, right?
And what about recording video in slow motion? Is it that good as it appears to be on YouTube?
Do you think I should wait for the Z4C?
Thanks
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Go for z3c slow motion is top and plastic sides actually make the phone visually outstanding
Starlith said:
How much of a difference is the battery life? Is the screen colour and brightness better?
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Battery life seems about the same, but the screen is comparatively gorgeous. Even with the bump up from 4.3", it's just as good, if not better. The brightness is iffy to me, though - adaptive brightness seems to screw with contrast and sharpness, even when X-Reality is disabled. :/
2mal16 said:
you can cut your micro sim card to fit as nano sim card
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Not always. My micro SIM had a chip that was too large for the nano form factor. Fortunately (?!) it fit because I've lost my dang SIM tray... When a replacement arrives (had to order it from Singapore or something, gah), I'll be switching to a proper nano-SIM.
You have to cut a bit into the chip , won't harm it and it will still work. Of course it always bears some risk .I dont think that Chip structure would vary a Lot, would it?
So I ran into this youtube video. Since I also have these two phones., I decided to do my own test and looks like S6 lets the SOC temperature to go over 70C while recording 4K video but Sony probably set the limit around 60C/65C for the whole camera app. Now that might be a good thing to ensure longevity of the phone, but some people might find it too conservative. So what do you guys think?
Edit: I think this limit only applies to the camera app. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I saw a temp reading of 70C (using CPU Z) after a 50 minute gaming session. Yet the game was not shut down at that point.
Battery drained to what level when you played games? Cause I saw a video within 3hrs and few minutes (I can't exactly remember) phone just shut down automatically.
Wow m glad to see that Sony Xperia Z3+ Beats Samsung S6.... great video...dude..
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Battery drained to what level when you played games? Cause I saw a video within 3hrs and few minutes (I can't exactly remember) phone just shut down automatically.
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I wasn't paying attention to battery level Did you just say you watched a 3hr long video? Battery life is less than Z2 in my case at this moment. I used to finish my day with 20% on Z2. On Z3+, it's like 10%. Also keep in mind Z3+ screen is a lot brighter. With similar brightness, the difference would be quite small.
I also checked out the GSMarena battery life rating. Their test is quite faulty as they just set brightness to 50% on all phones. 50% on Z2 would be 250 nits, for Z3+ it'd be 350 nits. They should set the brightness to the same absolute number in all tests.
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I wasn't paying attention to battery level Did you just say you watched a 3hr long video? Battery life is less than Z2 in my case at this moment. I used to finish my day with 20% on Z2. On Z3+, it's like 10%. Also keep in mind Z3+ screen is a lot brighter. With similar brightness, the difference would be quite small.
I also checked out the GSMarena battery life rating. Their test is quite faulty as they just set brightness to 50% on all phones. 50% on Z2 would be 250 nits, for Z3+ it'd be 350 nits. They should set the brightness to the same absolute number in all tests.
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https://youtu.be/31ZxtSIu9sk
This is the video I was talking about. 3hrs 33mins phone shuts down.
chesterr said:
https://youtu.be/31ZxtSIu9sk
This is the video I was talking about. 3hrs 33mins phone shuts down.
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3.5Hours is for me quite good while playing intensive games. I would ran out 25% in half an hour on my Z2:/
This is on Z2 so you can check the same on Z3+ if it does the same and I just wanted to collaborate,
Don't wanna spoil this thread, wanted to help out
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Then I recorded a 4K video without SteadyShot, managed to record 4min 36secs and temp went to 70C
The cut off temperature is dependent on the silicon fab process. You can't say whether one is wrong or one is right unless you know what it is. Sony/Qualcomm use TSMC and Samsung is proprietary...
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This is on Z2 so you can check the same on Z3+ if it does the same and I just wanted to collaborate,
Then I recorded a 4K video without SteadyShot, managed to record 4min 36secs and temp went to 70C
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I was talking about the msm_temp, which is 57C in your case. Z3+ does the same thing, camera app closes when it hits ~55C/60C. The limit is just too low. I know it's there to prevent overheating. Ironically, this is exactly why some 'experts' think camera overheats :laugh: But it doesn't as 55C is much lower than the 70C temp that S6 hits after 5 minutes of 4K recording.
Lolento said:
The cut off temperature is dependent on the silicon fab process. You can't say whether one is wrong or one is right unless you know what it is. Sony/Qualcomm use TSMC and Samsung is proprietary...
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Well, as I mentioned in the first post, this exact same silicon hits 70C during gaming and the phone just runs fine. Surprisingly, the limit is ~60C only for the camera app.
Called Sony Support today
So i called sony support today to hear what they have to say about the heating issue.
Got in contact with a tech guy, who tried to explain to me some of the reasons this might happen.
He told me that apps\processes running in the background is helping the phone to overheat when we use a camera.
So i turned everything off, and testet, but still got the heating issues, and i don't even have to start recording. Just have to turn on the camera and see through the viewfinder, and the phone instantly start heating up.
He told me to try and run the phone in safemode, that way every 3rd party apps would be disabled, and run the camera. I did this, and still same issue. First i get a message about heating could lead the app to exit, and after some minutes, the app exits to cool down the phone.
So i have been hearing rumors about people talking about maybe sony is going to fix this issue in a software update by doing some throttling on cpu, but the only thing the tech guy knew about the next update 5.1 for z3+ is, that sony is going to extend the volume button functionality so that we can control all the volume setting.