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So as many other users I've been having lots of problems with battery life. I've done so many things in an effort to try to improve battery life but it doesn't seem to improve as much as it has for other people
This is what I have done:
Installed Baked Snack 9.7
Have brightness set to automatic
Changed the preferred network type GSM Auto (PRL) to CDMA Auto (PRL)
Installed Juice Defender
Installed SetCPU and have it so that my phone is under clocked to 245mhz when screen is off.
Turned haptic feedback off
Turned Off Auto-Sync
Manage my running applications with Advanced Task Manager and have it so that it ends apps every 30 minutes.
Flashed the newest Radio
Reconditioned my battery like HTC representatives suggested
Even with all these changes I'm lucky to get 10 hours of battery with moderate use. Far below the 16-20 hours that other users claim to get.
I don't understand why my battery life is so bad. Any tips? Maybe something I did wrong?
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So as many other users I've been having lots of problems with battery life. I've done so many things in an effort to try to improve battery life but it doesn't seem to improve as much as it has for other people
This is what I have done:
Installed DC 3.2.3 and have it set to the Battery Saver Profile
Have maximum Brightness Set to 25%
Changed the preferred network type GSM Auto (PRL) to CDMA Auto (PRL)
Installed Juice Defender
Installed the OverclockWidget and set it so that when the screen is off the processor runs at 245 mhz.
Turned haptic feedback off
Turned Off Auto-Sync
Manage my running applications with Advanced Task Manager
Even with all these changes I'm lucky to get 10 hours of battery. Far below the 16-20 hours that other users claim to get. I use my phone mainly for texting, send maybe 200 per day. Connect to the marketplace for about 20 minutes in total and and never watch youtube videos or surf the web. I spend around 20 minutes a day on the phone at most.
I don't understand why my battery life is so bad. Any tips? Maybe something I did wrong?
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Perform the HTC suggested battery cycling.
Charge until full, unplug, recharge, unplug, recharge, turn off, recharge, turn on, recharge for a few times.
No comment on the battery life as I have no problems but why did you want this phone in the first place if you only text and don't use the internet? I would own a Blackberry or Nokia E71 if I used my phone in that way.
Minjin said:
No comment on the battery life as I have no problems but why did you want this phone in the first place if you only text and don't use the internet? I would own a Blackberry or Nokia E71 if I used my phone in that way.
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I expected someone to say that, I used the internet heavily for the first few days and saw the horrible battery life so I started limiting how much I went on and this is how much battery I'm getting now. I do use apps sometimes though
jerryparid said:
Perform the HTC suggested battery cycling.
Charge until full, unplug, recharge, unplug, recharge, turn off, recharge, turn on, recharge for a few times.
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I tried that, it worked on the first day but then battery went back to normal the day afterwards
Try running dcpowertop via ADB to see if something is causing a lot of wakes and preventing your phone from sleeping. Also try running Systempanel monitoring to see what is using up the CPU time and draining the battery.
Also, this does nothing unless you are running a custom kernel (You didn't mention if you were, so just sayin'):
Installed the OverclockWidget and set it so that when the screen is off the processor runs at 245 mhz.
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But, even so, you should be well above 10hrs battery life with the other changes you made.
rockethot said:
I expected someone to say that, I used the internet heavily for the first few days and saw the horrible battery life so I started limiting how much I went on and this is how much battery I'm getting now. I do use apps sometimes though
I tried that, it worked on the first day but then battery went back to normal the day afterwards
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Bad luck? Could try replacing battery and getting a 1750.
DanBergundy said:
Bad luck? Could try replacing battery and getting a 1750.
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He's better off with this deal really, many members have purchased them (including myself) and they perform near as well, or just as well as the OEM battery - but you get 2 of them, AND a charger:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715739
Most batteries above 1500mAh do not even perform close to what they say they should. Check out batteryboss.org for details.
Philosuffer said:
Try running dcpowertop via ADB to see if something is causing a lot of wakes and preventing your phone from sleeping. Also try running Systempanel monitoring to see what is using up the CPU time and draining the battery.
Also, this does nothing unless you are running a custom kernel (You didn't mention if you were, so just sayin'):
But, even so, you should be well above 10hrs battery life with the other changes you made.
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I'll give dcpowertop a try.
I just uninstalled overclockwidget and installed SetCPU instead, the new version has the perflock disabler which should allow me to underclock.
If you are in a sketchy service area, your battery will drain fast.
How much do u use your phone? That's right there the key when other people say ILL GET 16-20 HOURS OF BATTERY LIFE. Yes cause they don use it as much as i do, maybe u use.ur phone hardcore too, texting mms back and forward like no joke. Lots of them. I do over 600 just the morning. So my battery die around 2 then i use my hero battery that i have as back up. Its BS when other ones say that they get crazy amount of battery. Yes it can be but cause they don't use the phone as much, my buddie has a iphone 4 and we tested it against the evo and yes he's better but not crazy better like when i was on 50% left he was on 62-65 % my phone died first he was on 10% left. ...
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Ok, so SetCPU does actually work and I have successfully downclocked my phone.
If you send 200 texts per day and do little else, as smart phone is not for you. Get a more basic phone that would give you 3-4 days of heavy usage.
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That's very strange especially with how little you use it now to try to get more battery life.
Only other thing I can't think of that's not on your list is disabling Google Talk auto sign-in. Not that I think that will make up the difference you are seeing, but it's something else to try. You seem to be doing everything right, maybe try a clean ROM install?
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If you send 200 texts per day and do little else, as smart phone is not for you. Get a more basic phone that would give you 3-4 days of heavy usage.
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I started limiting myself to try to squeeze as much battery life as I could.
rockethot said:
So as many other users I've been having lots of problems with battery life. I've done so many things in an effort to try to improve battery life but it doesn't seem to improve as much as it has for other people
This is what I have done:
Installed DC 3.2.3 and have it set to the Battery Saver Profile
Have maximum Brightness Set to 25%
Changed the preferred network type GSM Auto (PRL) to CDMA Auto (PRL)
Installed Juice Defender
Installed the OverclockWidget and set it so that when the screen is off the processor runs at 245 mhz.
Turned haptic feedback off
Turned Off Auto-Sync
Manage my running applications with Advanced Task Manager
Even with all these changes I'm lucky to get 10 hours of battery. Far below the 16-20 hours that other users claim to get. I use my phone mainly for texting, send maybe 200 per day. Connect to the marketplace for about 20 minutes in total and and never watch youtube videos or surf the web. I spend around 20 minutes a day on the phone at most.
I don't understand why my battery life is so bad. Any tips? Maybe something I did wrong?
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Im running "bakedsnacks" latest version, try that. Ive been having insane battery life. It already has the undervolting kernel in it. Give it a try, u have nothing to lose. But you have to remember that the Evo is a beast .
What is your dcpowertop
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Follow the Battery Recalibration instructions in the cyanogenmod wiki.
Doing this, I was at 73% after 26 hours unplugged. Yes, I was using the phone: 20 Text messages, about 20 minutes of pocket empires, 20 minutes of another game, WiFi enabled for most of those hours, and I even ran the "Relax and Sleep" app for half an hour when I went to bed.
DC 3.2.3 with the Balanced profile.
brownmc77 said:
Im running "bakedsnacks" latest version, try that. Ive been having insane battery life. It already has the undervolting kernel in it. Give it a try, u have nothing to lose. But you have to remember that the Evo is a beast .
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I'll give baked snack a try
You don't need to turn off all those features to get better battery life.
If you really have trouble, simply downclock the cpu to something like 460 Mhz and you battery life will double.
Then have someone make an undervolted kernel for you, and your battery life will triple.
When you say managing your apps with ATM? Are you using it to kill your processes? You probably don't need to manually or even schedule task killing with the lowmemkiller in DC.
One thing you didn't mention is what your signal strength in the area is. My 3g reception is utter trash in my office, so I have an extra cable to keep it charged. Overall, my phone drops about 1% while idle and I don't have any task management or cpu throttling apps going.
In the last couple of days I started experience strange battery depletion. The battery starts to depletes in a fast rate (fully discharging in 6-8 hours), EVEN while it is just idling, and eventually discharge faster when in use. Furthermore, the phone's chin gets very hot during this behavior. I checked if there are any apps still being run in memory, but there weren't any.
PS: I am running CM6; It happened on both batteries (1150mah and 1600mah)
Any help is greatly appreciated with this issue. Thanks
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hats normal in a 2.2 rom because its overclocked really high for speed . you can download set cpu and unoverclock it but it'll be slow
duffman23 said:
hats normal in a 2.2 rom because its overclocked really high for speed . you can download set cpu and unoverclock it but it'll be slow
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At the very least many of the current kernels support min 122uv but are set higher by default.. you will get better battery if you set it at the lower min even if Max remains high.
Just if you get weird crashes on wake raise the speed some.
all the underclocks etc just dont work for me so i went to a cell phone store and they gave me a better battery that was suppose to last longer then my old and now i get like 6-8 hours charge but i use both so i get about 8-11
well but i don't think its normal for the phone keep running hot while idling, and having the battery depleting very fast... it is also set to be underclocked while the screen is turned off, so it surely does not have to do with clocks.
Hey guys im in the process of doing a little experiment to see actually how much Juice Defender with Ultimate Juice actually improves the battery life on my Evo4G. I'm sure this has been done somewhere else i just couldn't find it so i decided to do the experiment myself and post my findings this may be useful to some people or may not!
Phone: Evo 4G
ROM: Cyanogen Mod 6.1.2
Kernal: Zendroid BFS @ 1.52ghz w/ smartass scaling
Launcher: Go Launcher
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Phone running Juice Defender With Ultimate Juice
Phone Unplugged At 11:42am
Phone Died At 8:59pm
Usage: For the most part it was moderate use, no gaming, 2 calls lasting for a total of aproximatly 45 minutes. 120 texts were sent and received 146 within the time frame. There was no browser usage just mostly texting like i said. 3 Pictures were taken. No Wifi. Bluetooth or 4G used either.
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Phone running without Juice Defender With Ultimate Juice
Phone Unplugged At: 2:50pm
Phone Died At: Never
Usage: Well my phone has been unplugged since 2:50pm and its now 12:35am and my battery is sitting at 55%. Weird... very weird. I had about the same usage as yesterday i played 1 game for a total of probably 10minutes and installed 4 apps. A had wifi enabled for probably an hour total.
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Final Thought: I think Juice Defender doesnt help at all, infact it seems to hurt your battery more than anything. I think it may be because its constantly turning things off and back on consuming battery? Thats the only thing i can think of. Does anyone else have any thoughts on why this is? Using Juice Defender reduced my battery life dramatically it almost cut its life in half as a matter of fact. Please share your thoughts on why this is people!
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beanx said:
Hey guys im in the process of doing a little experiment to see actually how much Juice Defender with Ultimate Juice actually improves the battery life on my Evo4G. I'm sure this has been done somewhere else i just couldn't find it so i decided to do the experiment myself and post my findings this may be useful to some people or may not!
Phone: Evo 4G
ROM: Cyanogen Mod 6.1.2
Kernal: Zendroid BFS @ 1.52ghz w/ smartass scaling
Launcher: Go Launcher
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Phone running Juice Defender With Ultimate Juice
Phone Unplugged At 11:42am
Phone Died At 8:59pm
Usage: For the most part it was moderate use, no gaming, 2 calls lasting for a total of aproximatly 45 minutes. 120 texts were sent and received 146 within the time frame. There was no browser usage just mostly texting like i said. 3 Pictures were taken. No Wifi. Bluetooth or 4G used either.
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Phone running without Juice Defender With Ultimate Juice
Phone Unplugged At: 2:50pm
Phone Died At: Never
Usage: Well my phone has been unplugged since 2:50pm and its now 12:35am and my battery is sitting at 55%. Weird... very weird. I had about the same usage as yesterday i played 1 game for a total of probably 10minutes and installed 4 apps. A had wifi enabled for probably an hour total.
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Final Thought: I think Juice Defender doesnt help at all, infact it seems to hurt your battery more than anything. I think it may be because its constantly turning things off and back on consuming battery? Thats the only thing i can think of. Does anyone else have any thoughts on why this is? Using Juice Defender reduced my battery life dramatically it almost cut its life in half as a matter of fact. Please share your thoughts on why this is people!
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thanks for the info. i try to tell people that juice defender doesn't help. but no one listens so i gave up and just tell them cool app and walk away lol.
very helpful post. I noticed too it doesnt seem to really help it just monitors mobile data and turns it off when screen is off and occasionally powers it on to download emails and ****. I dont like it because i like to kno when i get an email instantly versus it checking every 30 min.
I also found that juice defender seemed to have a negligible impact on my battery life while also decreasing speed of sync/convenience. You'll notice that it also makes android system skyrocket towards the top of the battery use list.
On a related note, I also found that setcpu profiles don't have an impact on battery life and may even hurt.
Ultimately, android is optimized to manage a lot of these things on its own and introducing an app that consumes battery both monitoring and brute forcing some of these activities doesn't make sense. The only active monitoring app I use now is Tasker for some specialized automation activities.
i cant believe this is an app that most people recommend to improve battery life tho. Especially with how much it hurts rather than helps. Very disappointing.
It has helped mine because I use the widget to manually shut it off and on. I don't let it control it. Since the epic doesn't have the shut off data in the power menu its good for me. Otherwise I agree with you all. I keep my data off until I need it to look something up. Personal preference. But hey it does shut my data off when I tell it to.
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Rom: Never stock, but always with some Gingerbread.
I had been using juice defender and setcpu for a while trying to get the best battery life, but I ditched them both about a month ago and I'm getting better life than ever before lol
I've got 58% left in the battery and the phone has been up for 32 hours. I thought I was helping by micromanaging the phone with JD but I think it was really just hurting it.
deathsled said:
I've got 58% left in the battery and the phone has been up for 32 hours. I thought I was helping by micromanaging the phone with JD but I think it was really just hurting it.
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32 hours up and only down to 58%? Mind if I ask how you set thigns up that your phone is so energy efficient?
It was a great application, Donut times, it literally made my Magic 32a survive the day against the not-even-a-day battery life at those times. Nowadays it is simply useless due to android better app management.
Hmmm...I have been using this for a few months now and I've seen dramatic improvement in my battery life. I usually unplug my phone at 7 each morning and by noon on moderate usage days I'm at 60%. Using JuiceDefender, my phone is typically at 80%. By 5pm with its only at %60. Normally I would get home at 5 and it would be around 30%. Interesting.
Running Samsung Captivate
Stock Android Eclair 2.1
Rooted
Zeam Launcher
With more iterations of Android they are improving power managment, Ya back a little bit ago this helped some people alittle it closing out processes and way to handle things but with android development alot of this stuff is getting worked into the OS, basically now all your doing is running a app constantley that does something handled by the OS now in newer builds.
I wonder in some cases if the juice defender and the OS both trying to do power management if it can actually cause more power loss due to a conflict in the two trying to controll items. Of course OS should have higher pid but could cause some of your increased power drain using both
try the beta
im using it on my epic and my evo i think it helps both but i am also using the free beta i dont think the regular one works
i'm shocked there's even a thread for this. i put it on a stock epic and it made a WORLD of difference.. especially in locations where my signal was poor and evdo service kept dropping. my issues with it are of a different nature. seems to get corrupt alot and the wifi locations service sucks
Hmm, i'm confused on how this could actually hurt battery life, especially by the amount you displayed unless you have it doing all kinds of other management as well. I have mine setup to only manage the data APN, disabling on screen off, and seem to have gained decent battery life from it. The widget to toggle data on/jd on/off is very handy as well.
Pretty sure android doesn't do anything natively that turns off data when phone is at rest/screen off, does it? Someone please correct me if i'm wrong.
I will admit, the new versions of JD do seem to be pretty bloated and sluggish.. i've been on the fence of whether to remove or not... The main reason i keep it on my device is because i work in a basement and get about 65% TWS and severe battery drain from that. With JD managing 3G, it helps mitigate that somewhat, and having it be automatic is much more convenient than toggling it manually all the time.
I may have to join you on some testing, because if JD is not gaining me anything, i'll definately be removing it as it sometimes causes some initial sluggishness when turning the screen on. From daily usage experiences (and i watch it like a hawk), my battery life has definately not been made worse.. older versions seemed to net me more life, and i'm undecided on the new versions. Not enough time with it on/off to decide yet.
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JD helps... it will slow down notifications and stuff, if you need always on data then this won't help. However, during the day I'm usually already online and don't need non-stop notifications and if you use JuicePlotter you can clearly see that while sitting idle with JuiceDefender on you use significantly less battery than if you don't have JuiceDefender active and have it sitting idle.
for those that think jd works...
are you using the free, pro, or ultimate version? looking to buy if it really saves battery life.
which configs did you use? I had it a few months ago and my battery did actually improve. Trying some different settings makes a huge improvement.
I am using superpower now. (from XDA actually) And this is really working, it also takes some configuration, but eventually it will benefit your battery life.
Superpower turns data to 2g when your screen is off, disables wifi and bluetooth and sets your cpu to a 400mhz cap (at least with my phone) I noticed a 1% overnight drain and a 200% increase in battery life. (basically I do two days with heavy use vs. one day before)
Hope this helps some people!
The only thing that actually changes the battery in an evo is a kernel. No quick fix app is going to help how your system interacts with your battery! Senseui is garbage and it sucks up battery life like no bodies business!
I'm using AOKP (4.1.2) and I really love the rom itself, but I got the feeling that my battery is drained more when screen is on than usual.
With screen off I get good battery life - like 0.5 - 1% battery loss per hour with the standard samsung battery.
But when I surf over wifi for like 15 minutes the battery is drained like 10%. (I always use lowest brightness setting)
I know that the screen really eats through the battery, but this still seems rather high, doesn't it?
zroice said:
I'm using AOKP (4.1.2) and I really love the rom itself, but I got the feeling that my battery is drained more when screen is on than usual.
With screen off I get good battery life - like 0.5 - 1% battery loss per hour with the standard samsung battery.
But when I surf over wifi for like 15 minutes the battery is drained like 10%. (I always use lowest brightness setting)
I know that the screen really eats through the battery, but this still seems rather high, doesn't it?
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Same here
I am on stock german xxlsz and i have same problem
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Welcome to Jelly Bean. :highfive:
That could be it - so far all jellybean roms I tested seemed to drain more power with screen on than ics or gb ever did.
And my problem is not related to no deep sleep or something keeping cpu alive - when screen is off everything feels normal.
I have reverted to rocket rom v12 cause that... JB is nice but this battery leak is not acceptable for me. Rr v12 is best solution definitelly.
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What I found out so far: auto-rotate on is a battery drainer - with it on system_server constantly stays at like 5-10% cpu usage, android.system.ui also uses more CPU % with auto-rotate on, CONSTANTLY.
I've read this is due to a too short polling interval for the location sensors, if someone knows how to change that please let me know, but I'm also trying myself.
Use BetterBatteryStats, my friend, to check if there's a wakelock with some app.
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i am watching this thread, because i also encountered battery drain on JB. thought battery is gone. hence bought a new one. slightly better but still drains a lot. i think the battery drain is because of smart stay. smart stay uses front camera to decide whether you are looking at screen. so when screen is on, front camera is also on and hence the double drain. at least for last four hours, battery drain is in check, after i turned off smart stay. hope this is right and help all of you.
I have the same issue.. Infact I believe this damaged my Battery.. it was working fine until I was on Stock ICS. After I flashed JB LSZ, I noticed heavy battery drain as well as wierd battery status indications..
Just today I noticed that the battery is slightly bulged..
it might just be the wrong time, or something with the ROM..
my phone is just 15 months old now.
Well to be honest my battery life is "ok" - I do get like 1-2 days depending on usage. As I already said, when the phone is in standby mode it drains very few power like it should. (I do have flight mode on almost all the time too, because I don't use it as a phone, just for data when I need it)
But I got this feeling that the battery drains alot faster than I was used to on screen on time since I'm on jellybean. The thing is, that I've checked almost anything, with BetterBatterystats, BatteryMonitor Widget and Powertutor.
The drainers when screen is on are #1 the Screen and #2 Android-System using the CPU. I've already deactivated auto-rotate and the media-scanner, this helped a bit. The only process that's really showing up in System Load is "android.system.ui" at like 2-5% CPU.
Is this jellybean-wide or could this be due to the additional AOKP tweaks?
How can I break it further down to find what really causes the load? (beside Screen taking more energy on JB which would make no sense from a physical viewpoint, the cpu-usage of android.system.ui can only be the other cause of the battery drain right?)
Guys, please post your battery life screenshots. Mine is fine :laugh:
Dont have screenies but my SOT is 3 and half hours . Pac rom Lp 5.1 Caf D802 .
There is already a thread about battery life where users posted their screens...anyway your screen in the first post is useless to determine battery life. Dont mean to be rude but it really is useless, because if you barely use the phone, you can reach 120h+ easily. You have to give more information. Even the screen on time is not accurate to determine battery life, because there are some users who use their phone like an e-reader and get massive amounts of screen time that are impossible to reproduce when using the phone on normal conditions. Not everyone uses the phone in the same conditions. A good way to determine it would be the screenshot like you gave, another one with the apps showing consumption, another one with screen time and a screenshot of cpu spy or any other cpu measuring app(because this will make it easy to spot how those e-readers get so much sot, usually their lowest cpu frequency is used a LOT, unlike normal users)
always 6-6.5 hours sot. can hold up to 3 days or more with light usage using Cloudyg2 2.2.
Fyi, cloudy g2 is not the reason you get 6h+ sot... unless you're significantly reducing performance and/or screen brightness. No rom can beat physics(and logic).
I average 5h sot over 2-3 days with wifi/data/sync/auto brightness on. Can easily go a week in standby if check it a few times a day. Running stock sprint lollipop with latest zvi update.
Well that's depressing....I have a battery life of maybe 4 hours with 1 to 1,5 hours of screen on time........I made a post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/help/battery-messed-t3297770.
If anybody has a suggestion I would be more than pleased. Been using the phone for +2 years. And looking at the screenshots of yours, I hadn't had that in a loooongloooong time
At full charge, plugging in earphone and listening to music or videos on youtube , i get like 3 and half and sometimes 4 hours depending on the rom. Screen is set to the lowest. I dont install much app, especially which connects to the internet silently in the backgroud. Disable location services and all too helps. At idle with wifi on and phone radio is 90% or more good signals, it lasts for about 3 or 2 and half days (depends on kernel too) . What rom you using @deereper ??Have you tried reducing google service battery drain via script and all ?
deereper, and anyone else getting under 3h sot, your battery is shot. I had similar battery performance until I replaced it. In my experience custom roms/kernels may make a very minor difference but have much worse performance and stability.
Yeah, I ordered a new battery.
I really don't want to but a new phone just for the battery.
And yes, with those battery stats it doesn't matter if you run stock or aosp
It's D802 btw, auto brightness 0%, wifi data gps always on. SOT 6-6.5hours only with continuous usage, if add in standby SOT average around 4.5-5 hours