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[Q] Help! My kids have my Tab and they wont give it back!

LOL! Seriously tho, I need a cheaper alternative to my Tab for my kids to play with.
Does anyone have a recommendation on a WiFi-only 7" Android 2.2 (Froyo) [i.e. must support Flash video] tablet for about $200 USD that support full access to Android Market?
I looked at things like this one:
http://www.lightinthebox.com/Cortex...2-2--Froyo--WiFi-Tablet--800MHZ-_p165566.html
or this one:
http://www.lightinthebox.com/Android-2-1-C-MID-Tablet-with-7-Inch-HD-Touchscreen---WiFi_p158354.html
The second one is Android 2.1 and probably doesn't support Flash but I think SkyFire Browser may be a good fix for that with its built-in Flash support.
Use cases: Angry Birds, Doodle Jump, Zebra Paint, Fruit Ninja, Mini Squadron, Need for Speed, Pandora and YouTube.
Can someone from this board recommend a replacement for my Tab so my kids will give me my Tab back!?!?!?!?
-dan k
San Diego.

Nook color
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@ayman07: Can I get Nook Color with Froyo pre-installed from somewhere? And whats the specs on the processor for Nook Color?

Or how about this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Coby-MID7024-...f=sr_1_23?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1302319231&sr=1-23
or this:
http://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-Vie...ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1302319539&sr=1-5
-d

da_in_sd said:
@ayman07: Can I get Nook Color with Froyo pre-installed from somewhere? And whats the specs on the processor for Nook Color?
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I concur with Ayman07 that the Nook Color is the way to go.
You will need to hack it to get the best out of it though, unless you can find one on Ebay/Craigslists where it's already been done.
As to the processor, it is an 800Mhz Cortex A8 TI OMAP3621, which is very good.
The Coby you linked to doesn't look bad, but apparently it has a resistive screen and that would be the deal breaker for me.
Regards,
Dave

da_in_sd said:
@ayman07: Can I get Nook Color with Froyo pre-installed from somewhere? And whats the specs on the processor for Nook Color?
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I had a nook for my first tab, it was so easy to put froyo on it, and easier to put honeycomb on it. Those nooks are impossible to brick.
Go for the nook, best bang for the Buck, and the only tablet I'm aware of with the most flexibility for flashing roms. Wifi worked fine after flashing, even on the hc port.
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I commend you for this useful post.

the archos 70 is a good choice
good luck trying to find one, they are sold are everywhere

My recommendation is another galaxy tab. You can get a nice used one from ebay or craigslist for $350. Why hassle with a nook, which is only $100 cheaper and lacks gps and soft keys. Plus it takes time to set it up to your liking.
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what about a galaxy tab wifi?
otherwise a nook color, but galaxy tab is definetely easier to use than nook color.

thanks to all for the great replies. im looking into a cheap tab from craigslist. if not, i will look into Nook Color too.
-dan

I thought Tigerdirect.com had the wifi only SGT for $350 last week.

[Q] Is the NC 1.2 update worth it?

I have been wading through the talk about the 1.2 update to get a stock version of Froyo and I don't see any real advantage over the NookieFroyo I am running now (emmc). I saw a video from another thread that showed a 1.2 NC running and some apps didn't load and it doesn't really look like an Android Native. More like a slowly developing B&N OS. Am I missing something?

Obviously there's no point right now as it can't be nootered. So until the developers play with it, there really is no point.

Gin1212 said:
Obviously there's no point right now as it can't be nootered. So until the developers play with it, there really is no point.
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Beyond that, there isn't much to the 1.2 update over the original with regards to functionality. The market that is now included is dismally scarce of apps; 137 total count as of this post and is actually B&N's own site, not the actual droid market. The overall functionality is still that of the simple ebook reader that the NC is created as in the first place. Rooting it is still the only real way of waking this tablet out of the B&N slumber that has been placed on it in its out-of-the-box form.

It will eventually be with it.
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Gin1212 said:
Obviously there's no point right now as it can't be nootered. So until the developers play with it, there really is no point.
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That was my thought exactly. Even if it gets rooted, it doesn't look like it will have the cool "status bar" with the back and home natively working. Until something like that comes along for the B&N OS, I think I will stay NookieFroyo for now.

My question would be does the market work? I keep seeing the BN Apps but nothing to indicate if the Market is functional or included.

When my DroidX went from 2.1 to 2.2 I was expecting WOW with all the anticipation and hype, but the reality is that outside of flash support, there was nothing worth upgrading for. It's as exciting as upgrading Windows XP from service pack 1 to service pack 2 but less exciting than going to service pack 3.
So if you already have a rooted stock NC, upgrading to 2.2 won't really make much of a difference to you other than flash which in many cases means less flash based ads. But heck, we are hackers and what's the point of the NC if you can't hack it again and again when new releases come out. Otherwise it would be like buying a puzzle, solving it and not having an opportunity to start over with new pieces. Get though this one and I'm sure B&N will have the 2.2.1 upgrade in a few months and we can do this again, woohooo!

flash is about the only thing i see that makes the update worth it.
raze

oh yeah and the overhauled JIT complier should speed up things for our non rooted brethren. Stock software gives the only advantage of newspapers and magazines.
Ill rock the new stock. since the buying the nook for android reasons mostly I have found myself reading agian and have a few magazine subscriptions.

I'm glad for the new kernel, can't wait for dalingrin to play with it

NewZJ said:
I'm glad for the new kernel, can't wait for dalingrin to play with it
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Exactly =D.

It seems (to me anyway) that flash runs quite a bit better on 1.2 (vs the ROMs I've tried). I hope we can see the same results with some ROMs

I've had Unrooted Stock since day one. Instead I run CM7 from my 4gb Class 6 SD. It runs well and, thanks to it, I've had the best of both worlds.
I've played with the update a bit today and I'll have to agree that for Rooters until 1.2 is Rooted it's not worth it, but for the None Techie this Update is great as it enables New NookBook and KidsBook features and it gives them Apps and Flash. So it's up to you whether you update or not.
Either way this Update makes life easier for Devs as they'll have an Official Stable 2.2 kernal for the Nook to work from, and other helpful additions. Good Luck Guys
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B&N will never make the nook like a normal tablet. They need to preserve the market space it occupies as an eReader with extras, not a tablet that can be an eReader.
If you are running stock, then its a decent upgrade. Otherwise, its just refinement for the system.

I updated since I just run CM7 off an 8gb card. What I have to say really annoyed me is the pricing of the apps. Take angry birds for example. In the Android Market its free. On the itunes appstore its either 99¢ or $1.99, I can't remember. But in the Nook Color appstore its $2.99. Other apps are similarly priced. I see BN upping the price on more apps that would normally be free or cheap.
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I just bought a nook at lunch today, planning on rooting it tonight (I recently rooted my Samsung Epic happily, and when figuring out to do that I read about rooting nooks). So during the afternoon at the office, I got an email from ZDNet raving about the upgrade, how it turned the Nook into a Real Android Tablet. so I thought, well, maybe I should just do this instead of rooting it. So I downloaded the zip file, and once the Nook was charged I ran the upgrade, which went fine. But I see now that the upgrade is pretty much a waste of time, no comparison to the features of a rooted nook, and it is currently unrootable.
There are quite a few posts here about restoring a nook to stock, but I am not sure if they apply to 1.2. What is the best method of restoring my 1.2 to 1.1, then rooting?

If you have stock, simply force the reboot 8 times, and the Nook will return to stock 1.1 for you (rather than the 1.2).

JohnnyDanger said:
I updated since I just run CM7 off an 8gb card. What I have to say really annoyed me is the pricing of the apps. Take angry birds for example. In the Android Market its free. On the itunes appstore its either 99¢ or $1.99, I can't remember. But in the Nook Color appstore its $2.99. Other apps are similarly priced. I see BN upping the price on more apps that would normally be free or cheap.
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B&N aren't allowing any Ad supported Apps in their store so Devs have to makeup with pricing. On top of that, the Angrybirds is the more expensive HD version. So, at least for Angrybirds, the pricing makes sense. Unfortunately, the lack of Ad support means that most likely there won't be that many free Apps on the Nook Store since Devs need to get money somehow.
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I just installed 1.2 and downloaded angry birds. It will not install. Tried numerous times. GRRRRR!!!

bgalb said:
I just installed 1.2 and downloaded angry birds. It will not install. Tried numerous times. GRRRRR!!!
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The Fix is to remove your SD card then install. B&N should fix that because this Fix isn't obvious to most people.
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[Q] Is the Nook the best choice for me?

Hey all I'm in the tablet market with about $300.. I'm trying to make sure the NC is the best choice for me before I go buy one.
I want to play Droid games, watch movies, read books and get good support for my device.
Is there any other tablets in my price range I should be considering other than the NC?
Also can a new NC be rooted and booted right off the showroom floor purchased new?
Thanks for the replies!

Well, yes, there are other tablets in the 250-350 range. Is your 300 a hard number? I flexed it up and down by 50 dollars.
NC can be rooted fairly quickly. I actually looked online here for a few days before I bought mine and knew what to do off the bat. I knew to buy a couple 4 gb disks, what I didn't realize is I needed sandisk branded ones.
So for what you're going to be doing get some sandisk 4 gb discs, prob 2, and get a larger one or two (16 or 32) for a alternate boot for cm7, sandisk of course.

Phatdawg said:
Well, yes, there are other tablets in the 250-350 range. Is your 300 a hard number? I flexed it up and down by 50 dollars.
NC can be rooted fairly quickly. I actually looked online here for a few days before I bought mine and knew what to do off the bat. I knew to buy a couple 4 gb disks, what I didn't realize is I needed sandisk branded ones.
So for what you're going to be doing get some sandisk 4 gb discs, prob 2, and get a larger one or two (16 or 32) for a alternate boot for cm7, sandisk of course.
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So in your opinion is there an easier device to use thats as supported? My $300 range isn't really a hard number.. I'd love a Transformer - but thats over doing it.
I've considered the Viewsonic Gtab cause a friend has one.. but not sure at this point which road to travel.

Easier to use?
I mean, if we're talking out of the box. Nook is the worst tablet out there because the e-reader and functionality sucks.
After getting CM7, it's pretty nice but that takes about an hour to do.

Once you root the Nook and put CM on it, it becomes golden.

Nook Color Gaming
There's gaming for you. For what you are looking for, you can't go wrong with the NC. It just depends on if you are willing to take the time to optimize it.
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Granted that reminds me of the imei problem with nooks. I guess that's something else to consider. Re: gameloft stuff and a few other programs here and there.

,I agree with iammarino...the nookcolor is pretty sweet once you root it. Cm7... if u want to watch movies I have found the easiest and nicest way is to install Netflix...

Phatdawg said:
Granted that reminds me of the imei problem with nooks. I guess that's something else to consider. Re: gameloft stuff and a few other programs here and there.
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But with my IMEI Generator program... that becomes nothing to worry about.

DizzyDen said:
But with my IMEI Generator program... that becomes nothing to worry about.
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true and there are work arounds about other issues like setting model to htc/vision, probably could do htc/flyer and be a bit more accurate with another 7 inch table in regards to market.

talk2nate said:
Hey all I'm in the tablet market with about $300.. I'm trying to make sure the NC is the best choice for me before I go buy one.
I want to play Droid games, watch movies, read books and get good support for my device.
Is there any other tablets in my price range I should be considering other than the NC?
Also can a new NC be rooted and booted right off the showroom floor purchased new?
Thanks for the replies!
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I love my NC. I'm running CM7 off an SD card, and I've used Dizzy's IMEI program so now I have that working too. There are a number of things you can do to make the NC experience very fulfilling. And at 250 new, ~200 refurb, that leaves you a bunch of extra dollars for playing and extra kit (sdcards, case, etc.)
Having said that though, it really depends on your personality and the amount of time you have to tweak the NC to fully bring out it's capabilities. You can now get a refurb Samsung Galaxy Tab (carrier version, not Wifi-only one) within your budget and have vendor supported Gingerbread out of the box, IMEI is solved due to being a carrier edition, slightly better stock hardware without needing to overclock, camera and GPS.
If I had to do it all over again, I would personally still pick the NC simply because I have the time and inclination to play and tweak. But do you?

Just got a new tablet....

As the title says I just got a new tablet. However I didnt see my model listed in the XDA app, so I am wondering if this is the right forum for it? Model info listed below. Got it from a client as a gift. It's pretty sweet. Honeycomb 3.2 is nice on it, but I got used to ICS on my Nook Color and the ability to ckose apps by sliding them out of the app switcher thingy. How do I replicate that in Honeycomb?
General imoressions are that it us even faster than my Nook Tablet (yes I own both the NC and NT). I am debating in selling my kess than a month old NT and using this device as my primary tablet and the NC as a backup device / letting my kids use the NC.
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Try the Galaxy Tab Plus forums for that model.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1426

[Q] Nook Color performance vs Tablet?

My wife had a Nook Tablet a while back and I believe it was the 8gb version, but I could be wrong. We had returned it for personal reasons. We are now looking to get her another reader. First off here's a few bits of info:
1. She will be using it primarily as a book reader.
2. She may use some apps but not many.
3. We will not be rooting it.
As far as apps go she will use whatever she can get from the B&N store. With the tablet she had previously she bought some Susan Salon game and the Angry Birds games. She would also use weather apps, Facebook if it's available, and possible Netflix. It comes with a free month of Netflix I believe and she has expressed interest in that, but not sure whether it will be long term or not. She does have a Macbook to use for everything that this device can't.
So with all that said is the performance gain from the dual core processor in the Tablet worth the extra $50 for what she would be using it for?

mhuffman_81 said:
My wife had a Nook Tablet a while back and I believe it was the 8gb version, but I could be wrong. We had returned it for personal reasons. We are now looking to get her another reader. First off here's a few bits of info:
1. She will be using it primarily as a book reader.
2. She may use some apps but not many.
3. We will not be rooting it.
As far as apps go she will use whatever she can get from the B&N store. With the tablet she had previously she bought some Susan Salon game and the Angry Birds games. She would also use weather apps, Facebook if it's available, and possible Netflix. It comes with a free month of Netflix I believe and she has expressed interest in that, but not sure whether it will be long term or not. She does have a Macbook to use for everything that this device can't.
So with all that said is the performance gain from the dual core processor in the Tablet worth the extra $50 for what she would be using it for?
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Given how you plan to use it, I would say yes it is worth it.

Yes, the Nook Tablet is definitely better at running video. However, I'm not sure how much better the 8GB Tablet is since it has the dual core processor but only 512MB of RAM. On my 16GB Tablet with the 1GB of RAM the video performance is clearly better and the overall speed just a little faster.
Although you say you will not be rooting I would highly recommend running a bootable SD card on either. The changes to being a real tablet are significant. You are also able to access the Google Play store, Amazon App store and others where there are many more apps than B&N has and you can even find the same ones for free or for as little as 1/4 of the price that you will be charged in the B&N app store.
Books and Magazine subscriptions through B&N are still readable using their Android app. Even if it is mainly for reading and only a few apps are downloaded these and other reasons make using something other than the stock OS highly compelling. Since you can do it from a bootable SD card that leaves the internal Nook OS totally stock why wouldn't you give it a go?
JP

If you're not going to root it, you're probably asking the wrong forum. This is XDA; the whole purpose of these forums is for development There's plenty of enthusiast sites out there with users more like you.

Get the regular Nook Color. Even if you get the Nook Color with rooting should be sufficient. Nook Color vs Tablet is speed/ram different. Good Luck.

Id like to make a suggestion for the Galaxy Tab 2 7inch model. It's only 250$ like the Tablet and you will get a far more complete tablet/ereader device than the nook tablet/color.

crimson12 said:
Id like to make a suggestion for the Galaxy Tab 2 7inch model. It's only 250$ like the Tablet and you will get a far more complete tablet/ereader device than the nook tablet/color.
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Seconded. No working around what B&N think you should be able to access. Ability to access both Google Play Store and Amazon App Store at will. No need to dread OTA updates.
I've got 3 NC and a NT in the family, but am now very happy that I have my own SGT2.

mhuffman_81 said:
My wife had a Nook Tablet a while back and I believe it was the 8gb version, but I could be wrong. We had returned it for personal reasons. We are now looking to get her another reader. First off here's a few bits of info:
1. She will be using it primarily as a book reader.
2. She may use some apps but not many.
3. We will not be rooting it.
As far as apps go she will use whatever she can get from the B&N store. With the tablet she had previously she bought some Susan Salon game and the Angry Birds games. She would also use weather apps, Facebook if it's available, and possible Netflix. It comes with a free month of Netflix I believe and she has expressed interest in that, but not sure whether it will be long term or not. She does have a Macbook to use for everything that this device can't.
So with all that said is the performance gain from the dual core processor in the Tablet worth the extra $50 for what she would be using it for?
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Item 1, where do she get the book from? Buying directly from B&N?
If so, get the refurbished NOOKColor, not new one, not Nook Tablet for roughly $100, $120. It will do just that.

I bought a nook color as a fun toy when it came out for me to learn about android and tablets. My wife ran off with it and used it as a reader. The nook color turned her into an e-book enthusiast from a skeptic.
We got her a nook simple for xmas and she is way happier with that. Why are you looking at the tablet instead of the simple w/light if she doesn't use apps much? The simple has a great form factor, no glare screen, and weighs less than half of a color plus GREAT battery life.
I still like my nook color but the batter life is still suboptimal if you are using it as a reader only. I couldn't buy myself a simple because I just like the extra bells and whistles, but for her needs it rocks. Just double check your wife's needs/perspective before you lay down the cash.
my 2 cents

I hope this doesn't side track this thread. Is it as easy to get the tablet to run on a bootable SD as the color is?

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I hope this doesn't side track this thread. Is it as easy to get the tablet to run on a bootable SD as the color is?
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No. The Nook Tablet has a locked bootloader. The devs have found a loophole that makes it work, but it is not as straight forward as the Nook Color. But for the user, it is probably transparent and you would not know the difference.
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