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I got a a Touch Pro 2 in November of 2009 and I hate the friggin thing. It's slow as hell and no way compares the to X. I called Verizon and they said I was not able to upgrade until August 2011. I simply can't have that. So does anyone have any advice as to what I can do to get this amazing phone within the next couple weeks. I am almost desperate enough to sign up for another plan just to get this phone.
Hell if your going to sign up for another plan you mas as well just pay full retail for the phone because its going to eat you up with early termination fees. Or you can always hit up ebay you might find a new never opened clean esn phone
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You may be able to buy a cheap dumbphone on craigslist (verizon branded) and have that activate don your main line (change ESN) then you can call customer service and tell them you no longer need the unlimited data for your current plan (so they drop the $30 a month) So then you're basically just paying for your minutes and any extra features you may have such as texting etc.
THEN, go to a verizon store or Best Buy and add a line to your account with the droid X, this will run you $9.99 + $30 a month on top of what you were paying for just minutes and text.
In essence if you get the data package canceled on the first line, then added on a second line, you will only be paying $10 more a month plus the price of the droid x, which can be offset by selling your touch pro 2
I agree with everyone here, but don't worry about getting a dumb phone to replace your tp2. When I got my incredible I went in the store ready to pay full retail, they said just open a new line and we can place a fake esn on your line. Just depends on where you go. And I'm glad I didn't pay full retail, cuz I wouldn't have been able to get it replaced with a droid x.
I actually still have my old Chocolate and an old LG phone that I can't remember the name of, so should I just use those? And will VZW just let me cancel the $30 data plan?
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I actually still have my old Chocolate and an old LG phone that I can't remember the name of, so should I just use those? And will VZW just let me cancel the $30 data plan?
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I got a a Touch Pro 2 in November of 2009 and I hate the friggin thing. It's slow as hell and no way compares the to X. I called Verizon and they said I was not able to upgrade until August 2011. I simply can't have that. So does anyone have any advice as to what I can do to get this amazing phone within the next couple weeks. I am almost desperate enough to sign up for another plan just to get this phone.
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I AM IN THE EXACT SAME BOAT AS YOU, Explodee. I bought the TP2 the day it came out for Verizon; before I had actually seen one. It was so hyped up that I thought it would be the best phone to EVER grace Vzw. Well turns out its a complete and total DUD. WinMo is by far the worst OS and I have only found about 3 apps that are worthwhile, while android has TONS of apps.
But, I know how you can get the X for the 2 year price. Just add a line. I added my family onto my account and they all got brand new BB's for the 2 year price, while my phone number didn't get any upgrade. I would just put a dummy phone on your current line, take off the data package, then open up a new line on your account with the Droid X, and switch to a family share plan.
I just switched my entire family over to my plan from Sprint, so I told the Vzw people I wanted an early upgrade if they were going to get 4 extra phone lines from their competitor. They agreed, thank god! I couldn't go another year with this TP2.
Good luck!
I should have mentioned this earlier. I am already on a family plan with my mom, bro and sis. None of them are eligible for upgrades for about a year as well. I also wanted my number to be on the X and if I had to sign up for a new account I would want to get the X for the new one, then immediately switch the service between the phones. Is that possible?
Also, would I be able to sign up for the X and cancel the data package and put the dummy phone on the X account?
Look lol I've screwed Verizon over every way possible lol, I've had EVERY Droid branded phone they made (yes even the eris ewww) and have never paid over the two year price for them and have kept the same line everytime. It just depends on how much the rep you talk to wants your business. I go to the same guy everytime, so I get a really good deal everytime. Your best bet is to make friends with someone at your local corporate store and go from there, or just add a line with the x, switch a dummy esn to that line and cancel the data package. Then switch the x to your original line, and your done. You don't even have to take the data plan off your line that way. Hope this has been helpful.
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I have to chuckle every time someone posts that they have screwed a cell company.
Really? Keep reminding yourself that every month when you pay the bill.
I've been on VZW for a long time, have numerous lines with them, and have convinced them to give me early upgrades on several occasions. Not once did I think I had screwed them. At 'BEST' I felt like I got a little recognition for being a long time customer. I'm pretty sure they are still very profitable on our business.
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Zaphod, you have a point. Cell phone companies make all their profit in their monthly bills, not in selling cell phones. If they did, you could get a new phone every day if you wanted.
My buddy works at walmart in the electronics department, and I had mentioned the Droid x to him. He said that a guy came in and bought a X for full retail price, 500 something dollars from him. On the register he can look up and see what how much Walmart made off of the transaction (percentage value and only for certain electronics like computers, tvs and carrier based cell phones). He told me that even at full retail, Walmart still lost money.
Vzw screws you over every month, we just help take the edge off the price by giving them 200 bucks towards a droid x
I should have posted this two months ago when I found out, but got lazy. The now $30 fee reminded me and I decided I should pass the info along. I had a conversation with:
Handsets, Product Distribution, Business
Brenda Raney
908-559-7518
[email protected]
This conversation was about the NFC blocking but I baited her with a comment and she responded by saying something along the lines of "Unlimited Data would no longer be an option on "Advanced" handsets released later this year (2012). When you upgrade to one of these new "Advanced" (IE Smartphone) you will have to give up your unlimited data plan and pick a paid package."
She would not tell me when it would happen, but said that Verizon was not under any obligation to continue to grandfather people with unlimited data. I fully expect this to happen as soon as Quad Core phones hit the market.
Just one more drop in the bucket. Removing unlimited data packages for new subscribers, removing early upgrades, every two discounts, blocking Google from releasing direct updates for developer devices like the Galaxy Nexus, and now the $30 upgrade fee.
No, I did not record the phone conversation but the removal of grandfathered unlimited data will happen, and sooner then later. Feel free to chalk it up to a rumor if you don't believe me but when it happens, don't say I didn't warn you.
New Verizon devices use Sim cards, welcome to the world of buying off contract devices.
I wonder if this will let you break contract.
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I wonder if this will let you break contract.
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Sounds like it would to me
It seems like something they would do. I think I know there "plan" to get every one off unlimited data.
I have herd some things, but not like this. I think this is about spot on.
Now I will hold on to both of my unlimited data for dear life.
Edit: yes they do throttle 4G and will be doing more and more intill the next iphone and then will pull an AT&T X2. They will likely force you out of unlimited when you upgrade or if you you are on a "old" 4G phone they will throttle you on 4GLTE. I know, becuase I was throttled on 4G and then I stoped using the phone for 3 days, now I am unthrottled and sit at 90+hours of uptime with 2GB of use.
Link to some one who got throttled on 4G:http://www.phonearena.com/news/Is-Verizon-throttling-4G-speeds-too_id22818
Now he did use a crap load of data and I think he got what was coming, but I know when the new iphone with LTE comes out, WE ARE DOOMED. I have a 2nd line with unlimited data on AT&T, thats my back up plan. If not oh well.
Once again Verizon showing how little they care about their customers. From a legal standpoint they could probably do this because when you get a new phone you are under a new contract. But what if you buy the phone from ebay, etc and just add it to your plan. You are still technically under the same contract but they could track ESNs and force your plan to switch.
I hope they don't do this. I just left att after months of looking to take over someones Verizon contract. I found a person with 2 unlimited lines hopefully its not short lived. I really don't want to go to sprint
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New Verizon devices use Sim cards, welcome to the world of buying off contract devices.
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Verizon is CDMA only. The SIM cards are used for LTE, not GSM (a few phones have SIM slots for international GSM, but they're useless while on the Verizon network). So no, there is no buying of unlocked phones from Verizon.
Speaking of this, in China and other Asian countries, CDMA devices have SIM cards called R-UIM cards that work exactly the same way as GSM SIM cards, but CDMA carriers here in the US want to be able to stranglehold you in terms of what kinds of phone you use.
Hopefully Sprint still has unlimited data and their act together when my current contract is up in two years. Verizon charges an arm and a leg for their services and it's not enough? They have to nickel and dime us every step of the way. Aside from decent service I can't say that I feel like I get a whole lot for my money with Verizon. I've just had enough bad experiences with AT&T, and Sprint that I've been afraid to go back to either of them. Maybe it's not so bad these days?
I hope so too, becuase I need a 3rd back up plan and for every one elses sake.
My experience with AT&T has been very good, but I don't think that would be true if I was locked in for 2 years. Sprint has really come up in the last year or so and they seem like they are upgrading fast. (NV and LTE)
Not surprising in the least. Sprint will have to soon end too and remove grandfathered unlimited. Aside from that though, thanks for this update.
I wouldn't read a ton into all this stuff. And I don't know how good of an idea it is to publish someones personal/professional contact info for them on any forum...
I worked with verizon for a while, and on a daily basis I was upgrading phones and allowing customers to keep these 5 or 6 year old alltel rate plans.
It is absolutely correct that verizon can remove unlimited from grandfathered accounts if it wants to, but verizon's course of action with old alltel plans and the like, suggest that it won't happen.
I'm not saying it will or wont happen, all I'm saying is that its definitely possible that they will allow you to keep unlimited data, as long as you are playing nice and not DLing 100 gb's a month on their network.
I love all the misinformation, conjecture, an the posting of a professional email, signs of the derogation of society.
First: Yes VZW is charging an upgade fee. To say everyone is doing it is a cop out. To say that they are loosing money on equipment subsidies is true and the fee helps recap som of the cost while keeping prices competitive even with their own indirect partners.
Second, the only time you can loose a grandfathered plan per contractual agreement is a) older Altel devices that upgrade or change devices because there is no longer an Altel contract. b) you change to a basic (from smart) phone for over 30 days or c) you agree to it.
There are no exceptions to the three listed above. Don't believe me: 1800-922-0204 and ask for the loyalty department.
I love all the verizon fan boys who think they are the best and they would NEVER pull some thing over them like: taking away unlimited data, THROTTLING or the $30 "upgrade" fee.
The contract only lets you keep grandfathered plan's for the lenth of time you signed up for (AKA 2 years) and then They can make you sign a new contract with out unlimited data if you want to upgrade and if you don't upgrade, then they can just take it away.
Why is so easy for me to type this you may ask? Becuase they throttled me at 12Gb and now I can't go over about 10-15gb with out ricking this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCbvDEewcJU&feature=channel&list=UL
P.S I sit at 65GB on AT&T and no throttling. Eat that verizon
I really came in under the wire on this one. I upgraded about three months ago; still have my unlimited data. I never really understood why providers are simply eliminating unlimited plans rather than charging exorbitant amounts of money which plenty of people would pay.
do you expect anything less of Verizon?
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Nope, this is what I think they will do. They are thinking about razing the price up as well to get every one off of it, like AT&T did the $20 unlimited to 30, but with more kick. I have herd every thing from 30 going up to 50, all the way to it replacing the 20GB plan.
Any way: They are going to do some thing soon and well I will just say it's not likely going to be good.
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I love all the misinformation, conjecture, an the posting of a professional email, signs of the derogation of society.
First: Yes VZW is charging an upgade fee. To say everyone is doing it is a cop out. To say that they are loosing money on equipment subsidies is true and the fee helps recap som of the cost while keeping prices competitive even with their own indirect partners.
Second, the only time you can loose a grandfathered plan per contractual agreement is a) older Altel devices that upgrade or change devices because there is no longer an Altel contract. b) you change to a basic (from smart) phone for over 30 days or c) you agree to it.
There are no exceptions to the three listed above. Don't believe me: 1800-922-0204 and ask for the loyalty department.
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Pretty much the exact thing I heard when I called them a few weeks ago. I've been out of a contract for almost 6 years now (just lucky that my phone breaks when they dont have any more and get a free upgrade). I currently have a HTC Trophy with Windows Phone 7 and dont have a newer one because they have not gotten newer WP7 devices, YET.
I called them up and was asking on new devices and presented them with the same question. According to Verizon, I can buy a new Smartphone today, sign a new 2 year agreement and I still will not lose my unlimited data plan according to them.
Of course the day I do it, that will be my first question and will ask for it in writing
As of this moment you are not forced off of your unlimited plan when upgrading phones or switching between current phones
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I wouldn't read a ton into all this stuff. And I don't know how good of an idea it is to publish someones personal/professional contact info for them on any forum...
I worked with verizon for a while, and on a daily basis I was upgrading phones and allowing customers to keep these 5 or 6 year old alltel rate plans.
It is absolutely correct that verizon can remove unlimited from grandfathered accounts if it wants to, but verizon's course of action with old alltel plans and the like, suggest that it won't happen.
I'm not saying it will or wont happen, all I'm saying is that its definitely possible that they will allow you to keep unlimited data, as long as you are playing nice and not DLing 100 gb's a month on their network.
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So it's ok for Verizon to publish her information on their public website, but not for me to copy and paste it from that site to this one? I will edit this post later to provid the direct link to Verizon's corporate PUBLIC website that lists this PUBLIC information. As a "former Verizon employee" you should know all about their public site and what's listed on it. Even if it wasn't Verizon does not respect its customers so I have no respect for their employees at the upper level management.
I will get you that link tomorrow (today really, but later). My nephew is having a bad night teething and is co sleeping next to me so this post is on my device not a pc or I would do it now.
Fyi I have never gone over 5gb on my cell. I don't abuse my unlimited. Oh and I am rooted and can tether for free. Not everyone deserves to be ppunished for the crimes of a few. Wish VZW would figure that out but in reality people abusing unlimited is just an excuse to increase profits, which gets their CEO a bigger bonus. It's all about the money. Corporate Greed.
Obviously were talking subsidized, not full retail. Verizon preorders keep their unlimited, but not Best Buy.
That's what both Best Buy and Verizon are telling me. I have a preorder at Verizon, and they say because when I preordered I accepted the new contract (with Verizon directly), I can keep my unlimited data. Best Buy however takes a deposit but does not renew your contract until the phone is available to purchase. This is because Best Buy is a reseller and can't renew a contract until a phone is physically sold.
Originally Best Buy was telling people they could keep their grandfathered unlimited data on GS3 preorders because at the time Verizon had not launched the new "Shared Everything" plans. Verizon had originally said that the new plans (which removed grandfathered unlimited data) would not happen till mid summer hence, your preordered GS3 at Best Buy would be in your hands activated before that date.
Today things changed. Verizon just released today a statement saying shared data starts June 28th which happens to be Best Buys SG3 release date. As stated above, even if you preordered at Best Buy, you don't sign a contract till the date you have the phone in hand and call to activate it with Verizon. When you pick up your phone on or after the June 28th you will be signing a new contract and grandfathered unlimited data will no longer be an option.
Congrats Best Buy GS3 PreOrder Customers! Verizon just found a way to screw you, and odds are they have no intention on telling you until it's too late. For the record, Best Buy was NOT lying to when they originally told you that you could keep your grandfathered unlimited data if you preordered, unless they told you this with in the last few hours. Verizon just released the new plan dates, and according to Best Buy they didn't know the change would happen this early. Hence, when they told you it was true, but now Verizon has changed things. Best Buy preorders are "subject to carriers discretion".
If Best Buy decides to keep quiet on this matter now that they know (and not tell preorders things have changed) then they are scumbags; because as of this afternoon store managers spoke with Verizon and this is what they were told.
Verizon apparently thought Best Buy releasing the phone early would cut into their profits, hence the not so coincidental release date of "Shared Everything" plans on June 28th. Also if they keep quiet then they get to drop a lot of people off of grandfathered unlimited data, which is exactly what they want. Even better they get to blame Best Buy for telling people wrong information.
Got to love Verizon. Bunch of dicks.
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Obviously were talking subsidized, not.full retail. Verizon preorders keep their unlimited, but not Best Buy.
That's what both Best Buy and Verizon are telling me. I have a preorder at Verizon, and they say because when I preordered I accepted the new contract (with Verizon directly), I can keep my unlimited data. Best Buy however takes a deposit but does not renew your contract until the phone is available to purchase. This is because Best Buy is a reseller and can't renew a contract until a phone is physically sold.
Originally Best Buy was telling people they could keep their grandfathered unlimited data on GS3 preorders because at the time Verizon had not launched the new "Shared Everything" plans. Verizon had originally said that the new plans (which removed grandfathered unlimited data) would not happen till mid summer hence, your preordered GS3 at Best Buy would be in your hands activated before that date.
Today things changed. Verizon just released today a statement saying shared data starts June 28th which happens to be Best Buys SG3 release date. As stated above, even if you preordered at Best Buy, you don't sign a contract till the date you have the phone in hand and call to activate it with Verizon. When you pick up your phone on or after the June 28th you will be signing a new contract and grandfathered unlimited data will no longer be an option.
Congrats Best Buy GS3 PreOrder Customers! Verizon just found a way to fk you in your bum and odds are they have no intention on telling you until it's too late. For the record, Best Buy was NOT lying to when they told you that you could keep your grandfathered unlimited data if you preordered before whatever date unless they told you this with in the last few hours. Verizon just released the new plan dates, and according to Best Buy they didn't know the change would happen this early. If Best Buy decides to keep quiet (and not tell preorders things have changed) then they are scumbags; because as of this afternoon store managers spoke with Verizon and this is what they were told.
Verizon apparently thought Best Buy releasing the phone early would cut into their profits, hence the not so coincidental release date of "Shared Everything" plans on June 28th. Also if they keep quiet then they get to drop a lot of people off of grandfathered unlimited data, which is exactly what they want. Even better they get to blame Best Buy for telling people wrong information.
Got to love Verizon. Bunch of dicks.
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Ahh... One more gs3 thread in the sg3 section.....
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Crap. Thank you for pointing that out, can a mod please move this to the correct forum section. I am really sorry!
My damn psu blew last night so these posts have been typed on my phone (what a pita!) using Tapatalk. I just started using it again and have no idea how to move topics. If I was on my pc I would have noticed this was the wrong section.
Thanks for pointing it out!
Thats not what I was told by three different VZW people.
"Good evening Chris,
Congratulations on your new phone! I know how exciting it is to get new devices. My name is Nikki and it'd be my pleasure to review the data package for you.
After reviewing your account, I see you already spoke with one of our great customer service representatives and they were able to confirm your request. I just wanted to confirm again for you that yes, you will be able to keep your unlimited data plan.
I'm glad we were able to assist you. Thank you for being the best part of Verizon Wireless and have a great weekend!
Sincerely,
Nikki
Verizon Wireless
Customer Service"
My original email them before calling and confirming the same thing.
"Primary Subject: Other
Secondary Subject: Other
Message Body: Hello, earlier today I preordered the new Samsung Galaxy S III from BestBuy. While I was there I asked the mobile manager if he could confirm that by placing my preorder today that my unlimited data would be grandfathered into my upgrade. He said he was not positive and the best thing would be to call VZW. I called and spoke with a nice woman who after asking her supervisor said that yes I would be keeping my unlimited data plan by preordering today through BestBuy. I am now reading online today that people are being told that the will not be guaranteed their unlimited data if they preorder through BestBuy. I would like to confirm that what I was told earlier by your support staff was correct and that I will indeed still have the same plan for voice and data when I go to pick up my new phone from BestBuy, even though it is after the official shared data plan pricing change that is going into effect. Thank you"
Best thing to do would be to call them and ask, if they say yes ask them if they could please mark that onto your account so that when you do get the phone and go to activate it they see that you have been told that you can indeed keep your unlimited data package.
Is it possible to switch phones temporarily to grandfather unlimited?
I have two phones on a family share, both with unlimited data. I have a Razr I bought used and am already on 4G, grandfathered unlimited. My wife is eligible but still using her Droid X because we're not sure what phone she wants.
Is it possible for me to move my Razr to her line temporarily so that 4G is activated on the line, and then switch it back?
(I found this thread because I was trying to figure out if preordering worked to protect unlimited, so thanks OP!)
I just called VZW to get my daily update on the GSIII (lol still hasn't shipped) and while I was on the phone I asked the guy about the situation you mentioned. It's rare I get a CS person who knows what they are talking about, though this guy seemed to be on point. I would still call yourself and have it noted on your account, but from what he said you don't need to do anything.
He explained that in the system, 3g/4g are listed on the account separate from the data plan itself and only denounced whether the phone had a sim card. If you look at your bill you will see 3g/4g is listed on a different line of the bill then the unlimited data package. From what he said, if you have 3g unlimited then you already have 4g it's just not listed because the 3g phone does not have a sim card. He also said if you did what you wrote above they would add the 4g but would remove it as soon as you switched the phone back to 3g.
He said that 3g/4g feature on the account was irrelevant, and only the unlimited data plan feature mattered. Lastly, he reminded me that any phone bought after the 28th of this month that was not full retail price, would result in a plan change and loss of unlimited.
I asked him again one final time, so if I were to have a line with unlimited data but only 3g on the account, and I upgraded to a 4g device after the July 28th but paid full price, would I get 4g unlimited and he said yes. He repeated himself stating the 3g/4g part was not part of the plan rather something the system adds for your account to work properly. Again he said the unlimited data (in general) part is what mattered.
I would take it cautiously optimistic, and then call VZW and have them put a note on my account saying you will not loose unlimited. Good luck!
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After 7+ years as a loyal Verizon customer, and 2+ years as a fanatical Incredible user, I'm leaning strongly towards leaving it all behind. The straw was the recent change to mandatory Shared Data plans. I just can't justify spending $30+ more per month when I upgrade for essentially the same service I am getting now. I understand why Verizon needed to make a change...but it's just too much for me.
I've been eyeing the GNex for a while, and with the continued disappointing turnout of HTC on Verizon (Inc 4G...really? Small screen, no ImageSense), I am planning to get the $350 unlocked, GNex direct from Google and then sign up with a month-to-month plan with a GSM provider.
Sad to see it all go, but also excited with the new possibilities.
If anyone else is mulling this conundrum, I found this thread to be very helpful...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
I'm not happy with that either but to my understanding the shared data is an option not a requirement. I believe the tiered plan will still be an option.
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I'm not happy with that either but to my understanding the shared data is an option not a requirement. I believe the tiered plan will still be an option.
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Im up for my upgrade so i went on the vzw site logged in, went to upgrade device, picked a phone and went to the plan portion and there is only the one, 40 per phone 50 for 1gb shared data. No option to keep my current plan unless i buy the phone for retail with no contract. I am just going to save up my cash and when the inc dies, buy a phone retail or off amazon or ebay or something. That way i keep my 60 dollar a month bill with the unlimited data plan forever. I dont do a lot of talking or texting so the whole unlimited deal dosent really seem like a deal to me. And 50 for 1gb, thats just outrageous.
I know losing unlimited sucks, but I voluntarily gave it up. The shared plan gives me unlimited talk time, and 4gb a month between my girlfriend and I. We only averaged around 1.5-1.75gb per month each anyways and now that I figured out my employers network password I'm on their wifi at work lol. Saving $40 a month and gaining unlimited talk time was well worth it for me.
That said, I'm still considering leaving Verizon. Their service has been exceptionally poor in my area lately. My friend at work is on sprint and using speedtest his 3g speeds are consistently much greater than mine. But I don't know if I want to keep my Inc until January 2013.
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Well I'll be with big red until they actually take away my unlimited, and willing to buy phones retail value if need be. I can't give up my free wifi via phone through internal modem. I use my phone (gnex) as a hotspot for everything and would be lost without it....lol. Monthly is 72.67 every month. If that changes I change. Tc
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I know them feels bro.
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I plan on doing the same thing when the new iPhone (yes, sorry) comes out in Sept/Oct. I've been a Verizon Wireless customer since I was 16, and would end up paying about $20 more a month on their new plan as well. Verizon has good coverage where I am, so I'll either buy it unsubsidized and keep my unlimited data, or switch to a GSM month to month provider.
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I plan on doing the same thing when the new iPhone (yes, sorry) comes out in Sept/Oct. I've been a Verizon Wireless customer since I was 16, and would end up paying about $20 more a month on their new plan as well. Verizon has good coverage where I am, so I'll either buy it unsubsidized and keep my unlimited data, or switch to a GSM month to month provider.
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blasphemy i tell you, BLASPHEMY
The Shared Data plans work great if you have someone to share it with. Engadget, Android Central, et al have done the analysis and these are good deals for groups of 3 or 4 people who use less than 4GB together...for individuals like me it's a really bad deal. I would basically pay $30-40 more for a capped data plan.
I've thought about getting a retail price phone...you can get an Inc 2 on ebay now for $250-350. But then I wonder, why settle for an old phone, when, for the same price, I can get a brand new, unlocked GNex and be free of all this. Coverage is a concern. Support is a concern. Verizon has been fantastic for me on both. But I live in DC and friends with AT&T and T-Mobile are happy with their coverage.
Still haven't decided...but I appreciate everyone's thoughts and feedback. The Incredible dev community has been just that....another reason I'm looking at the GNex...gotta follow the devs.
Yeah dude I'm considering a nexus for my daily driver. I'm already on tmobile and pay $15-30 a month. They have a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 voice minutes, unlimited texts, and unlimited data (first 4 or 5gbs at hpsa+ speeds). Beats any Verizon plan for a single user. Only thing is you have to have T-Mobile coverage in your area. I get better coverage on T-Mobile than Verizon in some places where I live
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Big Red's BS is the reason I left and went PP years ago.
It has worked out very well.
http://www.pagepluscellular.com/
I was not lucky enough to upgrade before 6/28 and now im stuck on this angry little boat. I swear to god I'll be the last mofo on 3g. I'm the only one on my plan. Data tiers are complete bull****. A complete rip off the consumer.
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My wife just left sprint because of crappy service and support, and went to straight talk. $43 a month with tax, unlimited talk text and data, and here service is excelent. It even comes in at the beach where vzw has no service. But straight talks best android phone is still junk. If i could get my inc or another newer better android phone flashed to straight talk, i would leave big red in a heartbeat.
Woh im only use Rp 45.000 or 5$ per month for my Dinc for unlimited data plan. it's cheap and enough for social media and download apps..
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My wife just left sprint because of crappy service and support, and went to straight talk. $43 a month with tax, unlimited talk text and data, and here service is excelent. It even comes in at the beach where vzw has no service. But straight talks best android phone is still junk. If i could get my inc or another newer better android phone flashed to straight talk, i would leave big red in a heartbeat.
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I tried straight talk and was not happy you could not bring your own device and that the data was throttled back,
With page plus its the same network , you can bring your own device and the data is throttled back.
I have had good coverage when I travel.
Just ran the numbers for all the lines on our plan and it is better for us to stay with what we have now. If we do upgrade we will go retail or upgrade and opt for the 2GB non-shared data at 29.99 It will keep our price the exact same and the lines that have unlimited can keep it. It also makes it 10 dollars cheaper for us to do 3 lines with 2GB data than shared 6GB data. I totally get the new plans and such, but it suck to only be one phone on the plan.
If we didn't live in the middle of nowhere we might change, but VZW offers the best service for us.
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Just ran the numbers for all the lines on our plan and it is better for us to stay with what we have now. If we do upgrade we will go retail or upgrade and opt for the 2GB non-shared data at 29.99 It will keep our price the exact same and the lines that have unlimited can keep it. It also makes it 10 dollars cheaper for us to do 3 lines with 2GB data than shared 6GB data. I totally get the new plans and such, but it suck to only be one phone on the plan.
If we didn't live in the middle of nowhere we might change, but VZW offers the best service for us.
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So you can get a non shared data plan? When i went on the vzw site to do an upgrade, it only gave me the shared data option starting at $50 for a gb.
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So you can get a non shared data plan? When i went on the vzw site to do an upgrade, it only gave me the shared data option starting at $50 for a gb.
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Have you tried calling VZW customer service? I went into my local store last week and asked the gal at the counter what I needed to do for my stbxw will be getting off my account and getting her own account. She said in my case that she made a note in the computer allowing her to take her phone/phone number off my account. But once she did that, then I needed to call customer service for them to change my family share plan to something else, because they no longer sell a unlimited data plan so customer service would have to make my account a single tiered account so I don't get cornered into a share everything plan and lose my unlimited.
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So you can get a non shared data plan? When i went on the vzw site to do an upgrade, it only gave me the shared data option starting at $50 for a gb.
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That is my understanding from the rep I spoke with on the phone on Thursday. I was told the 2GB plan would still be around for any line I would want to put it on. I think it would for sure be something you would need to call in about b/c I don't see it listed under online options.
i had the incredible, went through a bunch of phones, lost some money, but ended up on a nexus with unlimited data. now that i only have ~9 months left on contract, im thinking of going to tmobiles $70 a month unlimited everything. its more then i get now, for a lot less. if you guys are in the market for used phones, try swappa.com. really good site. ive used them several times. nexuses can be had for $360
I just got off the phone with a Verizon representative about adding the hotspot to my unlimited plan. Now yes I'm rooted and already had access to the hotspot, but I'm fixing to go on a trip where I would probably use enough data through it to get noticed. The woman I spoke to asked if I wanted to add a line and use the jetpack or just use the hotspot and let it use my data. Well obviously with a unlimited plan I wanted the latter. I asked two times during the call if this would change my plan and or cost extra and was told no. So I guess I will find out at the end of the month.
Now it was my understanding that the data share plans had the hotspot already but I was unaware of the old unlimited plans having this and Verizon not charging the extra $30. As I said I will find out at the end of this cycle if my plan goes up $30 or not but I though I would put it out there to the others who still have there unlimited plan.
This makes me nervous. I hope you are safe and they don't try any funny business.
I no longer talk to Verizon if possible. They almost had a heart attack last time I was in there. I then realized having over 30GB per month is not normal. So over 59GB this month would be even more crazy.... If that was true... Because I am not really saying that is me..... Just saying....
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Well they don't have a plan to accommodate my usage. Last month was around 25 gig and so far this cycle I'm at 11 gig. I was ready to pay the $30 so I'll buy have to see what happens. I haven't received a email saying anything has changed so "fingers crossed".
When I upgraded from my Droid X (3G) to a Droid Razr Maxx (4G) the VZW store rep told me that because I have unlimited data, I could add hotspot too, and said it would cost more (don't remember what it was), but it would also be unlimited. I didn't do it, because I didn't need it, and if I did, I could probably root and get it.
I've never had a major need for it, but will be interested to see what happens with this. I seem to remember reading stuff about the FCC ruling that customers should be allowed by the carriers to use their data any way they wish, whether on their phone or tethered (wired or wireless) to other devices as they choose. But there was some strange wording that meant it only applied to people on non-unlimited plans, so Verizon never honored it.
I bought my Moto X outright to keep my unlimited data, and rarely use more than 2-3GB anymore. I used 10-12/mo when I didn't have internet at home for a while watching lots of stuff on Netflix and listening to Pandora a lot.
Keep us posted...
In the past I had the hotspot on my account because where I lived there was no internet but there was cell service then when I was able to get internet I canced it. I would think that it would still show that it had been on my account in the past but who knows. There is a possibility that she didn't know what she was talking about because at one time she said that there wasn't a option for a hotspot in my phone settings. I told here there was and the app was on my phone. Then she saw it. So there are some questions in my head and I will keep a close eye on it and come back with what I find.
My fingers are crossed for you. If that girl was clueless and the change forces you off unlimited there is practically no chance you will get it back unless you know the right someone on the inside. I don't see any way Verizon would allow a user with unlimited data to tether at no extra charge... especially when you consider unlimited data was explicitly disallowed from tethering when then FCC dropped the hammer on their use of band 7.
What if I have an old Verizon unlimited data plan? Can I download an app and avoid the $20 tethering fee too?
Unfortunately, the answer to this question is no. Verizon says that customers under the unlimited plan are required by the company's terms of service to pay an additional fee to tether their device.
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-http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ns-fcc-tethering-settlement-means-to-you-faq/
I tether off my unlimited here and there but don't make a habit of it... plus I rarely go over three gigs of usage so whenever I hear all these 30, 40, 50+ gig users brought up I think I have very little to worry about for the foreseeable future. I've heard any changes to the account will force you onto a tiered plan so I only talk to Verizon when absolutely necessary, and only in a store, on the off chance that just having them look at my account would constitute a change.
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My fingers are crossed for you. If that girl was clueless and the change forces you off unlimited there is practically no chance you will get it back unless you know the right someone on the inside.
I tether off my unlimited as well but I rarely go over three gigs of usage so whenever I hear all these 30, 40, 50+ gig users brought up I think I have very little to worry about for the foreseeable future. I've heard any changes to the account will force you onto a tiered plan so I only talk to Verizon when absolutely necessary, and only in a store, on the off chance that just having them look at my account would constitute a change.
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I agree that I am very wary about any potential changes to my account. When I brought my Moto X in to activate it (bought it from Moto directly, off contract), I asked to speak to the manager and made it very clear that I ONLY wanted to activate the phone if I would absolutely NOT lose unlimited data. He chuckled and told me that they get a lot of people who are super paranoid about it, and there are always shady employees who want to upsell on stuff so they will tell you that you can get XYZ new feature for only $5 more per month, but not tell you that making that change will also take you off of unlimited data. I told him that was EXACTLY what I wanted to avoid and he again chuckled and said I wouldn't lose unlimited, then proceeded to upgrade my device, and then exited out of the computer program and pulled up my account a second time to show me it was still in there as unlimited.
My girlfriend used to work at Radioshack and there were people there (including managers) that did those shady "upgrades" all the time just to get more commission. People at authorized phone stores do that stuff too. Never deal with those people.
I have checked my online account twice today and its still showing unlimited. And she said it would not change or make me lose the unlimited. I did let her know that I didn't want to lose that.
I remember when I had an unlimited data plan and got a new cell + new "subscription" that meant that it wasn't unlimited anymore, lol.
Anyway, I forgot all about it and downloaded a few movies during that weekend.
The following monday they blocked all outgoing calls from my phone and directed me to their customer service (I was furious because i didn't know why) and told me that my subscription fee was around 2600usd (one MB was like 3usd at that time when you reached your limit).
I totally **** my pants and told them the story (acted kind of dumb, pretended to be technically handicapped) and they erased the whole amount.:laugh:
I'm still faithful to that carrier
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This makes me nervous. I hope you are safe and they don't try any funny business.
I no longer talk to Verizon if possible. They almost had a heart attack last time I was in there. I then realized having over 30GB per month is not normal. So over 59GB this month would be even more crazy.... If that was true... Because I am not really saying that is me..... Just saying....
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You can relax sir I use the least 40 gigs per month and Verizon is very well aware of this any **** to do with anything about it other than they think its quite funny
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You can relax sir I use the least 40 gigs per month and Verizon is very well aware of this any **** to do with anything about it other than they think its quite funny
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This. I routinely use between 80GB & 200GB a month and no problems as of yet. The last time I was in a Verizon store the guy asked me what the heck I was doing, I told him I watch a lot of Netflix. (Which isn't a lie, my last phone had HDMI out and I would Stream Netflix/GPM&TV/HBOGO/HULU through my phone) What I DIDN'T tell him was that about 20-30 of those gigs were through hotspot to other devices.
Yea that doesn't sound right. Where I work there is no "unlimited hotspot" option at all. If anything you'll probably see the 5 GB hotspot option for $50
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Ok I got my bill the other day and there is no extra charge for the hotspot. So I figured that I would go ahead and update to 4.4.2 and when I tried to turn on the hotspot I got the familiar sign that I needed to contact verizon. But after rerooting and unlocking the wifi tether it worked. So obviously the rep that I talked with just didnt know what she was talking about and figured that it was on my plan or something as she didnt activate the hotspot. So scratch the free hotspot on unlimited plans.
I just updated my two computers at work and have to teather them. I also have an enormous music library because I am an elementary school music teacher and occasional DJ. This month I am at 109+ GB. I need to add my fiancée to my family plan by creating a data plan on her current number (not my unlimited plan) and just worry they might pull something. Maybe I should wait until the 13th when billing cycle resets current usage?
Also, my old phone (the one she will use) is x912 Droid RAZR Maxx. Will putting my old sim card that is used with that phone be able to get switched to her info? Just curious because I would rather hear information on this thread then at the Verizon store. Thanks!
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I just updated my two computers at work and have to teather them. I also have an enormous music library because I am an elementary school music teacher and occasional DJ. This month I am at 109+ GB. I need to add my fiancée to my family plan by creating a data plan on her current number (not my unlimited plan) and just worry they might pull something. Maybe I should wait until the 13th when billing cycle resets current usage?
Also, my old phone (the one she will use) is x912 Droid RAZR Maxx. Will putting my old sim card that is used with that phone be able to get switched to her info? Just curious because I would rather hear information on this thread then at the Verizon store. Thanks!
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I think you should be able to add her to your family plan for an extra 10 bucks a month plus the data plan. She will only be able to get a capped plan, but I'm sure you know this already. Even still she should be able to get 2gb for 30 bucks I think. They will probably try and get you to switch to their Share Everything plan.
As far as the Sim card is concerned, just trash it. They will give her a new one for the RAZR and assign it to her account. They're free anyways.
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