I got a a Touch Pro 2 in November of 2009 and I hate the friggin thing. It's slow as hell and no way compares the to X. I called Verizon and they said I was not able to upgrade until August 2011. I simply can't have that. So does anyone have any advice as to what I can do to get this amazing phone within the next couple weeks. I am almost desperate enough to sign up for another plan just to get this phone.
Hell if your going to sign up for another plan you mas as well just pay full retail for the phone because its going to eat you up with early termination fees. Or you can always hit up ebay you might find a new never opened clean esn phone
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You may be able to buy a cheap dumbphone on craigslist (verizon branded) and have that activate don your main line (change ESN) then you can call customer service and tell them you no longer need the unlimited data for your current plan (so they drop the $30 a month) So then you're basically just paying for your minutes and any extra features you may have such as texting etc.
THEN, go to a verizon store or Best Buy and add a line to your account with the droid X, this will run you $9.99 + $30 a month on top of what you were paying for just minutes and text.
In essence if you get the data package canceled on the first line, then added on a second line, you will only be paying $10 more a month plus the price of the droid x, which can be offset by selling your touch pro 2
I agree with everyone here, but don't worry about getting a dumb phone to replace your tp2. When I got my incredible I went in the store ready to pay full retail, they said just open a new line and we can place a fake esn on your line. Just depends on where you go. And I'm glad I didn't pay full retail, cuz I wouldn't have been able to get it replaced with a droid x.
I actually still have my old Chocolate and an old LG phone that I can't remember the name of, so should I just use those? And will VZW just let me cancel the $30 data plan?
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I actually still have my old Chocolate and an old LG phone that I can't remember the name of, so should I just use those? And will VZW just let me cancel the $30 data plan?
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I got a a Touch Pro 2 in November of 2009 and I hate the friggin thing. It's slow as hell and no way compares the to X. I called Verizon and they said I was not able to upgrade until August 2011. I simply can't have that. So does anyone have any advice as to what I can do to get this amazing phone within the next couple weeks. I am almost desperate enough to sign up for another plan just to get this phone.
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I AM IN THE EXACT SAME BOAT AS YOU, Explodee. I bought the TP2 the day it came out for Verizon; before I had actually seen one. It was so hyped up that I thought it would be the best phone to EVER grace Vzw. Well turns out its a complete and total DUD. WinMo is by far the worst OS and I have only found about 3 apps that are worthwhile, while android has TONS of apps.
But, I know how you can get the X for the 2 year price. Just add a line. I added my family onto my account and they all got brand new BB's for the 2 year price, while my phone number didn't get any upgrade. I would just put a dummy phone on your current line, take off the data package, then open up a new line on your account with the Droid X, and switch to a family share plan.
I just switched my entire family over to my plan from Sprint, so I told the Vzw people I wanted an early upgrade if they were going to get 4 extra phone lines from their competitor. They agreed, thank god! I couldn't go another year with this TP2.
Good luck!
I should have mentioned this earlier. I am already on a family plan with my mom, bro and sis. None of them are eligible for upgrades for about a year as well. I also wanted my number to be on the X and if I had to sign up for a new account I would want to get the X for the new one, then immediately switch the service between the phones. Is that possible?
Also, would I be able to sign up for the X and cancel the data package and put the dummy phone on the X account?
Look lol I've screwed Verizon over every way possible lol, I've had EVERY Droid branded phone they made (yes even the eris ewww) and have never paid over the two year price for them and have kept the same line everytime. It just depends on how much the rep you talk to wants your business. I go to the same guy everytime, so I get a really good deal everytime. Your best bet is to make friends with someone at your local corporate store and go from there, or just add a line with the x, switch a dummy esn to that line and cancel the data package. Then switch the x to your original line, and your done. You don't even have to take the data plan off your line that way. Hope this has been helpful.
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I have to chuckle every time someone posts that they have screwed a cell company.
Really? Keep reminding yourself that every month when you pay the bill.
I've been on VZW for a long time, have numerous lines with them, and have convinced them to give me early upgrades on several occasions. Not once did I think I had screwed them. At 'BEST' I felt like I got a little recognition for being a long time customer. I'm pretty sure they are still very profitable on our business.
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Zaphod, you have a point. Cell phone companies make all their profit in their monthly bills, not in selling cell phones. If they did, you could get a new phone every day if you wanted.
My buddy works at walmart in the electronics department, and I had mentioned the Droid x to him. He said that a guy came in and bought a X for full retail price, 500 something dollars from him. On the register he can look up and see what how much Walmart made off of the transaction (percentage value and only for certain electronics like computers, tvs and carrier based cell phones). He told me that even at full retail, Walmart still lost money.
Vzw screws you over every month, we just help take the edge off the price by giving them 200 bucks towards a droid x
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This knowledge comes after talking to 5 different T-Mobile reps.
The steps to get the subisidized price if you are a 22+ month "good standing" customer with a Family Plan of any kind (legacy, myFaves, Even More, etc):
If you have a Family Plan (myFaves, Even More, etc.) you *must* split all the lines on the Family Plan off to individual Even More plans. T-Mobile doesn't allow one person to have multiple types of lines on the same account, and doesn't allow one person to have multiple accounts.
Wait 2-3** hours for Google's system to replicate account data from T-Mobile. **estimated
Now that all your lines are on individual plans, you can use the steps on Google's site to modify an existing individual plan and then upgrade your phone.
Once you have received and activated your new phone on your existing number, it will convert your plan to the $80/mo Even More plan.
At this point you can call T-Mobile and have them add all your lines to an Even More Family Plan (not the Even More Plus Family Plan).
And if all this fails, she gave me HTC's support phone number: 888-216-4736
UPDATE: It appears I was a bit hasty in writing my guide. The steps above actually lead you to be able to upgrade your existing line with a $150 discount on the Nexus One, dropping the price from $529 to $379. To get the $179 pricing, you must select "Add a new individual line of service with a new number to my T-Mobile account." This will add a new line to your T-Mobile account, which you can then add back to your Family Plan, and remove your old line.
UPDATE #2: Google is now issuing a $100 refund if you went through this process and bought the Nexus One using the "upgrade" option for an individual plan to get the price of $379. That brings your cost to $279. I thought Google folks were supposedly good at math? :O
UPDATE #3: After all this nonsense, I found out today from T-Mobile that step #5 DOES NOT WORK the way they told me it would. You can't just call them and have them add all your lines to a Family Plan. Doing so within 120 days of your Nexus purchase will cause you to pay an ETF to Google, equal to the price difference between the $179 price and the $529 price.
My journey:
I started with 3 lines on a MyFaves 1200 Family Plan and was paying about $190-200 a month. I split this into 3 Even More 500 lines with Android data on 2 of the lines (my wife inherited my G1). Total cost per month at this point was roughly $200 still ($49.99 x 3 plus tax). I then bought the Nexus One for $179 ($229 with tax), which added a 4th Even More line for another $80/mo. Total cost per month now at $280ish.
Now, at this point I could have cancelled one of my out-of-contract lines, saving $49.99/mo for that line, dropping the monthly down to about $240/mo for my 2 old lines + the 1 new line from Google (3 lines total).
Instead, I cancelled the Google line, dropping the monthly back down to $200/mo, retaining out-of-contract status on all 3 lines, and eating the $350 that Google will charge me now. Had I kept their line for another 120 days though, that's 4x$40=$160 to keep that subsidized price, plus I am committed for another 2 years. At the same time, we are now signed up for the Even More Family 1500 plan with unlimited text/data/tmo-to-tmo/nights&weekends.
So at this point, I have the option (if I can explain all this math to my wife), of just buying her an unsubsidized phone upgrade for her and the other person on our plan, and drop to an Even More Plus 1500 Family Plan, which would cost us $125+tax/mo, for a total of about $150/mo. So basically in a year's time, we will have saved $600 on our phone bill, and that will buy each of them a very nice phone. Wish me luck explaining this to her.
Sorry to get everyone's hopes up. I think Google has shown that they can f*ck things up as bad as any big company out there (at least on a first try). Hopefully they will learn from it, and/or HTC will get into direct handset sales instead (like they should have this time anyways).
MORAL OF THE STORY: Save your pennies and just buy the effing thing unsubsidized. That or don't have family. Your choice.
FYI- 888-216-4736 is HTC's number
Cheers,
Kermee
Good to know. Now totally worthless, as they seemed to know less about it than Google.
As much as I hope this works even though I paid full price already and have a family plan, sounds like a lot of bull**** to go through lol... honestly, i have no problem shelling out 530 for a product of high quality and to a company that isnt all "me me me" (fu apple)... I am still a part of my parents account and i know my father would not want to deal with splitting the plan then jumping through all the hoops haha so im going to suck it up...
good luck to anyone who tries this though!
Everything is correct.
One minor thing is that if you change the plan to the Even More for 39.99 and don't add SMS and Data (10.00 + 30.00) for line ordering Nexus One, you will get a different prices from the $179.99. I have heard $279.99 and other prices.
After you have received your upgrade price of $179.99 call T-mobile and have them place you on an Even More Family plan of your choice (750, 1500, Unl) The line(s) that ordered handset will require the $30.00 data for duration of contract. Good Luck.
Feel free to ask any other Q's.
If I was to buy the N1 from Google unsubsidized, is it possible for me to continue using the plan I have without having to switch to that $80 plan? I'm on the Even More Plus Family plan btw.
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If I was to buy the N1 from Google unsubsidized, is it possible for me to continue using the plan I have without having to switch to that $80 plan? I'm on the Even More Plus Family plan btw.
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yes, that is the point of an unsubsidized phone, no contract binds
i am in the same exact boat as you, got a family plan, bought a phone (well worth the money) and now im happy
I went through this exact process to get the phone at $279. Make sure to remove any text or web/data addon ons on your plan as this will make the system only offer you the 379 pricing
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If I was to buy the N1 from Google unsubsidized, is it possible for me to continue using the plan I have without having to switch to that $80 plan? I'm on the Even More Plus Family plan btw.
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If you buy the unsubsidized phone, you don't have to even take it to T-Mobile. You could take it to AT&T and suffer with EDGE/GPRS data speeds, or Canada on Rogers (the HSDPA frequencies are the same as TMO).
Here's how I *wish* this had been handled.
T-Mobile should have issued coupon codes to customers in good standing 22+ months, regardless of Family or Individual Plan. When they issue the coupon code, your account re-ups for 2 more years, and the coupon works on Google's site to discount $150 for upgrades. That would have solved the whole mess.
Google, if you're reading this, PM me for job offers.
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Everything is correct.
One minor thing is that if you change the plan to the Even More for 39.99 and don't add SMS and Data (10.00 + 30.00) for line ordering Nexus One, you will get a different prices from the $179.99. I have heard $279.99 and other prices.
After you have received your upgrade price of $179.99 call T-mobile and have them place you on an Even More Family plan of your choice (750, 1500, Unl) The line(s) that ordered handset will require the $30.00 data for duration of contract. Good Luck.
Feel free to ask any other Q's.
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This works if the number you have doesn't have Android Data (mine did) which is required by TMO for Android phones.
You would have to go into account management and remove the stuff yourself after you told the system you're using a different handset (like the older Dash or something). Kinda like the process we used to follow to get $4.99/mo internet on the Dash.
so is it possible to skip 5 and 6 and just keep a individual plan?
because at the moment im on a family plan and are in good standing with tmo (had them since voicestream) but im moving out on my own and starting my own life since ive started college and want bills in my name on my own line.
so could i split my line from the plan upgrade it and just do the 80 dollar even more plan with them? while still getting the 179 upgrade?
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so is it possible to skip 5 and 6 and just keep a individual plan?
because at the moment im on a family plan and are in good standing with tmo (had them since voicestream) but im moving out on my own and starting my own life since ive started college and want bills in my name on my own line.
so could i split my line from the plan upgrade it and just do the 80 dollar even more plan with them? while still getting the 179 upgrade?
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I'm not sure about the 179 upgrade, but as for your family plan problem, I would suggest staying with the same account, just give the person that pays for the bill some money every month for your part of the bill. I do that with my cousin, so since our bill is $120 I only need to pay $60
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idk if someone else has asked this but does anyone kno of a way to get the nexus one for 180 on tmobile on a family plan? without buying it for 500 somthing>?
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idk if someone else has asked this but does anyone kno of a way to get the nexus one for 180 on tmobile on a family plan? without buying it for 500 somthing>?
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first of all this is the wrong thread place. this is
nexus one android development
now to answer your question
i believe you must get the special 70$ unlimited plan to be eligible for the upgrade
Please post in the correct place. This is for development.
Mods please move thread Tehran just reg nexus thread is where this belongs on development post come here
Any way. You need to have a line that is past 24 months and out of contract. Then seperate that line from family plan. Give it 2 days to reflect and then should get that price. Family lines are not eligible at all. Info is on Google's page.
Here is my question. I current have service with VZW. There tech support has finally pi**ed me off. They refused to replace my Tour that you cant hear on every other call not to mention the horrible vibration alert. So I have decided to say BYE-BYE to big red. I have read places on the net that you should be able to by new service on T-Mo with N1 on the single plan of course. Wait a few hours and then move it to a Family plan.
Is this possible for a new customer? I prefer not to dump $530 on a phone now but will if I have to. My other option is a MT which will be no issue. A coworker says go all in with Nexus. I agree the Snapdragon processor will be the difference. Thanks for the help. Cant wait for Jan 29 to move to a real from and leave Blackberry behind. I miss my modding days with my XV6800.
My wife went from the Iphone 3G to the Focus about 2 or so weeks back.... a few days after the new windows phones were released. I myself have a tilt 2 but was ready for an upgrade. We went in to look at the new phones and at that time they didnt know about the BOGO offer that was coming up for Black friday (and presumably running through out the holidays). She went ahead and got her phone. Today we went in and asked if we could still get the free phone. As she was still in the 30 day grace period we figured it wouldn't be an issue. Sure enough.... a quick call to the manager and I had the phone in my hand. The only extra I paid for was the Zag Shield.
I'm not sure WHAT had to be done to get it. Whether you needed to add another line etc but since we already had 4 lines on our family plan we had decided to add my mom on for her Christmas. We told him we wanted to add a new line as well although he didnt actually tie the new Focus to that new line, and it didnt get tied to my number yet either. I'm not sure but I do think you need to start a new line (which luckily enough we already planned on doing) to get the BOBO deal with AT&T. He seemed to imply I could get it for free too by using my upgrade status which was also open from the original purchase of the Fuze 2 years ago.
I figure if in the new year they release some newer cooler phones (ie one with the same size screen but has a keyboard) I'll use my upgrade for that and sell the Focus off.
So anyone who did get their focus (or any other windows phone for that matter) early and wants to go in to get their free phone go and and schmooze and you'll be walking out with the second phone in your hand!
Good Luck!
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confirmed by an att rep.... if youre within the 30 day period and are eligible or you add a line, they will restock your phone and resell it to you and you get the new one... just a restock fee, but well worth the free phone.... did mine this eve, took 10 min to get it done... good deal on a solid set of phones...
Good for you guys!!
I'm stuck so no deals for me since I'm not in the upgrade timeframe. Unless someone wants to sell thier free Focus for a nice holiday discount?
I had bought 2 focuses (foci?) at 2 seperate ATT stores about a week apart from each other. I went to one store and got the money credited back to my credit card. I then received a call from the second store and they told me they would credit the account the amount of one of the phones since they noticed I had bought 2 phones within a week of each other.
If someone wants to sell the one he got for free at a fair price, please let me know
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I haven't been able to make it work, but I thought I'd post just in case.
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I haven't been able to make it work, but I thought I'd post just in case.
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That's fairly similar as to how I got my fuze... they had some promo going on and they had a programming glitch where you could put the coupon on multiple times... which I did. I got that phone for free. A year later when I got my tilt 2 my wife got it for 100 dollars upfront and then AT&T sent me a $50.00 visa gift card, so really the phone was 50 dollars. HTC at the time had this promo where they would accept ANY smart phone trade in when you bought a tilt 2 and they'd pay you 100 dollars. I sent in my HTC Vouge and they gave me 100 dollars... so really I got paid 50 dollars for getting a new phone.
Then once this promo came along, well suffice to say my wife just rolled her eyes... yet another free phone
Does this only work if you purchased it at a real AT&T store? I bought my focus at a 'CellularWorld' about 15 days ago.
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Does this only work if you purchased it at a real AT&T store? I bought my focus at a 'CellularWorld' about 15 days ago.
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Correct. As far as I understand. You could try returning your Focus and re-purchasing at your local AT&T?
Nobody interested in selling your second Focus?
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Correct. As far as I understand. You could try returning your Focus and re-purchasing at your local AT&T?
Nobody interested in selling your second Focus?
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I am just guessing that you cant get another one for free if you purchased it off contract...IS it only with a new line or contract to get the free phone?
I've contacted AT&T about this. You MUST get a new line OR upgrade an existing line that is eligible for upgrade. Since I want to give the free phone to my dad, they did say 2 things that kept my interest though:
they can be flexible on 'eligibility'
I can transfer the phone to my dad's account, as long as he's eligible and an existing AT&T subscriber
One other thing - gotta do it within the 30 day grace period.
How much each store follows these rules, of course, would depend on the store
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I am just guessing that you cant get another one for free if you purchased it off contract...IS it only with a new line or contract to get the free phone?
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Correct. Two-year contract and data plan are required on both lines. AT&T makes minimum $600 ($15 data + $10 add a line = $25/mo minimum) over two year period off you per phone. That's how they can afford to give you one for free.
I'm planning to upgrade my phone n get me a Focus, since it's BOGO deal right now. I'm wondering if this plan will work or not. Currently Im in a family plan and my dad is able to upgrade his phone too and planing to give the 2nd phone to him. however, since he's a tech noob im going to go head take the phone, but cancel his data plan so he can use his old phone. Then just sell the 2nd phone. do you think AT&T will allow me to do this, since my dad would not use the Focus.
My sister had done this before, she got an iPhone n hate it. So she use her old phone, canceled the data plan and sell her iphone on eBay.
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confirmed by an att rep.... if youre within the 30 day period and are eligible or you add a line, they will restock your phone and resell it to you and you get the new one... just a restock fee, but well worth the free phone.... did mine this eve, took 10 min to get it done... good deal on a solid set of phones...
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I didn't even have to go through that much hassle. I told them I'd bought the first one in the last 30 days and they gave me a second one for free. They did charge an $18 upgrade fee on the line I upgraded but they didn't make me go through any "resell" or "restock" ordeal. They just put in a promo code for it and gave it to me.
Amazon is selling the phones for $.01 with a 2 yr plan.
For 2 qualified plans, that's a whopping $.02. Just a tad better than AT&T's BOGO deal.
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Amazon is selling the phones for $.01 with a 2 yr plan.
For 2 qualified plans, that's a whopping $.02. Just a tad better than AT&T's BOGO deal.
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Take a look at the fine print for things like the early termination fee. Don't fool yourself into thinking that Amazon is only making $.01 on the phone.
yep not only do you get dinged with an early termination fee from ATT but one from Amazon as well... I think Amazon's is bigger then ATT's actually. Not to mention I believe you only get that on new lines.... not ones you are adding onto an existing family plan. I could be wrong here.
So my wife has the transform and she hates it. I was thinking about getting her the Epic but neither of us are due for upgrades so I would have to pay retail.
I have an idea though.. Wondering if any 'insiders' know if this might work...
we have plenty of 'approval' for extra lines on our account.. we have an available line on the account as well.. I was thinking about getting an Epic for $--- price, on a new line (on our acct.) w/ new 2 yr contract.. then swap her device to the new line and the Epic to her line (to keep the phone numbers in order)... then after a couple days, I was thinking about cancelling the new line and paying the ETF.. The way I see the math, ETF + promo rate is less than full retail.
Just brainstorming a way to keep 'momma' happy..
Any other ideas ?? will this work ?? My wife thinks we might need to keep the phone/line active for 30 or 45 days or they'll charge us full retail.
Just curious..
For the amount of work that would take, the fraud potential and the cost you would just be better off keeping an eye on craigslist. I often see them going for $250 or less. Besides if you really want to go that route wait for the evo 3d or if you want something available now go for the nexus s 4g (unless having a hardware keyboard is necessary).
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From what I've seen, you would have to keep the second line for 30 days, and at least until after the rebate clears. If you really want to avoid the ETF, you can force roaming 24/7, and let Sprint cancel that line.
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I have no idea if this would work or not. It would be best to get a Sprint employee to confirm this.
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So my wife has the transform and she hates it. I was thinking about getting her the Epic but neither of us are due for upgrades so I would have to pay retail.
I have an idea though.. Wondering if any 'insiders' know if this might work...
we have plenty of 'approval' for extra lines on our account.. we have an available line on the account as well.. I was thinking about getting an Epic for $--- price, on a new line (on our acct.) w/ new 2 yr contract.. then swap her device to the new line and the Epic to her line (to keep the phone numbers in order)... then after a couple days, I was thinking about cancelling the new line and paying the ETF.. The way I see the math, ETF + promo rate is less than full retail.
Just brainstorming a way to keep 'momma' happy..
Any other ideas ?? will this work ?? My wife thinks we might need to keep the phone/line active for 30 or 45 days or they'll charge us full retail.
Just curious..
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Not sure what the stores are like in your area, but our Sprint stores here are all franchise. They recently started selling Refurb Evos and Epics for $120 straight up, no contract. Might be something to consider if it's an option for you.
The phones are worth what they cost. I wouldn't go out of my way trying to defraud the company you are relying on for phone service just to save a few dollars.
That being said, I noticed the contract price went down $100 since a week or two ago when I was on sprints site.... used to be 249/199 Epic/Evo, now it's 199/149 Evo/Epic... interesting.
You can buy preowned Epics from BestBuy free and clear for like 275 or so last I heard. That and check Craigslist, it isn't uncommon to find them for 100-200 there as well... just be sure to transfer the phone before you leave the sellers house to make sure it's legit.
Personally I would just buy a new one. They are around $300 +/- on ebay all the time. Like I said before, they are worth every penny anyway.
thanks for the quick replies
Definitely some good info here.. gonna go check out craigslist for a deal..
I went into our local sprint store (not a corp store) and wanted to play w/ the Nexus S.. the employee said "I have them but I can't turn it on because it will auto activate".. I said no it won't.. it will try to do hands free activation, fail, then let you play from home screen (I think)..he wouldn't let me play with it..
I know we have a corp store (repair center too) that has devices turned on and connected via wifi that can be played with.. might have to stop by there for a little tinkering action.
either way, thanks for all the suggestions.. I've got some work to do.
daddymikey1975 said:
So my wife has the transform and she hates it. I was thinking about getting her the Epic but neither of us are due for upgrades so I would have to pay retail.
I have an idea though.. Wondering if any 'insiders' know if this might work...
we have plenty of 'approval' for extra lines on our account.. we have an available line on the account as well.. I was thinking about getting an Epic for $--- price, on a new line (on our acct.) w/ new 2 yr contract.. then swap her device to the new line and the Epic to her line (to keep the phone numbers in order)... then after a couple days, I was thinking about cancelling the new line and paying the ETF.. The way I see the math, ETF + promo rate is less than full retail.
Just brainstorming a way to keep 'momma' happy..
Any other ideas ?? will this work ?? My wife thinks we might need to keep the phone/line active for 30 or 45 days or they'll charge us full retail.
Just curious..
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You may have already done this, but my wife has the transform as well and it was a piece of **** lol I decided to try rooting and installing a custom kernel on it and it is a completely different phone, still not like a epic obviously but a much better phone once I unlocked it. http://androidforums.com/transform-all-things-root/317172-how-why-root-newbies.html I followed this guide for the Transform to the letter and my wife is much happier now that she can actually play angrybirds and use it as a phone lol
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You may have already done this, but my wife has the transform as well and it was a piece of **** lol I decided to try rooting and installing a custom kernel on it and it is a completely different phone, still not like a epic obviously but a much better phone once I unlocked it. http://androidforums.com/transform-all-things-root/317172-how-why-root-newbies.html I followed this guide for the Transform to the letter and my wife is much happier now that she can actually play angrybirds and use it as a phone lol
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I have ubuntdroid beta installed on her phone (from sdx-developers).. clockwork mod (not sure which version).. I have her system partition formatted as EXT4, data as RFS (for stability, no corrupt data) and cache as EXT2 for speed/stability ... it's not too bad but I still manage to break it LOL...
the transform uses swupdate utility like the moment did. I'm very familiar w/ the moment so messing with the transform was easy.
I'm not positive if non corporate account people can do this, but with our corp accound, we can put it on hold for around $8 per month. You might look into getting a new line and put the current on hold then put transform on craigs list fr 75 bucks or so. Maybe even hang around the sprint store and try to sell it out of contract to someone. We did that with some blackberrys and it went well. Our instore rep helped us out and sold a couple to some of her good customers that didn't want to pay full price for a phone when they dropped it in the pool or something like that. Lots of people don't get tep
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I'm not positive if non corporate account people can do this, but with our corp accound, we can put it on hold for around $8 per month. You might look into getting a new line and put the current on hold then put transform on craigs list fr 75 bucks or so. Maybe even hang around the sprint store and try to sell it out of contract to someone. We did that with some blackberrys and it went well. Our instore rep helped us out and sold a couple to some of her good customers that didn't want to pay full price for a phone when they dropped it in the pool or something like that. Lots of people don't get tep
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it just so happens we have corp discount on our plan
This might be another good idea... <runs to pitch ideas to my wife>
I found an Epic on craigslist for $250 OBO here locally, and a nexus for about $350.. Gonna check into that as well...
thanks again for the tips.
Hello everyone,
After the worst customer experience EVER with T-mobile...I am moving on from my beloved Vibrant. Here is what happened... I paid retail for my phone using the "Equipment Instalment Plan" and entered into the non-contract plans. At that time I was told that once you enter these type of plans you cannot go back to contract plans or get phones at the discounted price unless I start over with a whole new account only to find out that in Oct 2011 I was placed onto a contracted plan which I never authorized. In most cases it wouldn't have been a big deal, but was because my some dropped my phone on my cement driveway and cracked the screen, so after finding out that it would cost $130 for the insurance replacement (I mean really, after paying all the insurance it still costs that MUCH!!! Insurance on other carriers replaces phones for way less and even free on Verizon) and just replacing the screen isn't that much different.
Anyway, I was told I could not upgrade unless I paid retail. But, T-mobile changed the way that works. When I first started the "EIP" plan, you would pay the full retail value of a phone in payments split up over 21 months which would be added to your monthly phone bill and all you would pay upfront was the first monthly instalment, but now they make you pay 1/3 of the retail value of the phone upfront and the rest over 21 months. Which to me defeats the purpose because that is basically what you pay for a phone on a 2 year contract and then of course you don't have to pay any more toward the phone after that.
So now we go back to the problem of being on the contract I never agreed to. The rep said they knew that you couldn't get back onto a contracted plan after going to EIP plans, but somehow I was able to and they couldn't reverse it. The rep said I could file a dispute by email because no one could take care of it over the phone. So, I filed my dispute and never heard back. I was really busy with work and family and basically put this whole issue on the back burner for a few months but checked back with T-mobile at the beginning of June and was told they never got my dispute. I saved my email I sent and informed them that I have confirmation they received it...still, was told I had to filed my complaint all over again. So I did and had to wait 10 days for a response which OF COURSE was declined.
I called T-mobile back (I should add that this whole time I have been very friendly with everyone I spoke to and never once got loud or disrespectful) and explained everything going on and explained that my only intention was one of two things, either pay retail on the EIP plan like I originally should have....just that it should be done in the same manner as my vibrant which was my payment upfront be only the first of 21months, or give me the upgrade price since I was put on a contract without my consent and never used an upgrade on my account. Keep in mind that at this point it has been over two years since I got my Vibrant. I was told no and no. My only option was to pay 1/3 retail and the rest over 21 months or buy a phone somewhere else.
My intention was never to leave....in fact, I was only promising that would be there for another two years, T-mobile would not be losing out on anything except keeping a customer longer and I have been with them for 6 years already. But at this point I told them either give me an upgrade or I will take my business elsewhere. The rep said they didn't want to lose my business and that they would either put me on my previous non-contract plan or they would give me the upgrade price on a new phone. So I put aside the fact that it took over 6 months for them to give in, I agree to just go with the upgrade price and stay on contract. I asked the rep if I could go to a store to complete my purchase and they said yes. So I go to the store and the rep at the store said I was misinformed on the phone and could not get the upgrade price. My only option is to pay retail.
Now I'm back to my original spot...I can only pay retail, like I did with my vibrant and be on a contract I didn't agree to and obviously didn't want in the first place, the rep I spoke to the first time couldn't figure out how I got onto contract, but couldn't reverse it and even agreed that my situation didn't make sense. I know I could get a phone on craigslist or something, but I wanted something new and an upgrade, but now it's all about the principle of the business ethics T-mobile is using with me. So as a last resort, I go to the forums on T-mobile website and post my problem there. I get several responses saying I should contact a forum this specific forum moderator (name withheld, I don't want to get into trouble) because she is known for fixing issues like mine. So I did...AND NO RESPONSE, I sent another private message and again no response and this went on for 2 weeks.
So I hit my last straw...I'm moving on. My wife and I each are getting SGS II's free and will be on a cheaper plan then we had with T-mobile by going with Sprint. I have never used Sprint, it could turn out that I don't like their service areas compared to T-mobile in my area or their network seems sluggish but either way, T-mobile again lost another long time customer.
If you actually read through all that then thank you for listening to my complaint. I didn't even list every detail about the situation and some of the events just make it even more ridiculous.
I loved the phone, but that is only because of the developers on this site. I mean that literally. So special thanks to all the devs out there...they certainly deserve every thanks they get and then some.
FaultException-thanks for your fast and detailed responses and work with CM9.
jrongi1-thanks
Cyanogen-thanks
serendipityguy-thanks for your kernel bible
bay_wolf-loved your toolbox (haha, that sounds bad)
Fishman0919-thanks for reviving bionix
Sombionix-thanks for bionix
Romanbb-Thanks for work (loved them all)
krarvind-thanks for Slim ICS (used that for while)
sixstringsg-thanks for Glitch (My fav kernel)
Jellette-thanks for all the choices (hope life is well and live long and strong)
So many more I can't think of off the top of my head so thanks to everyone and I wish you all the best.
Wow.. seems like everything really went against you throughout the process. Instead, I wouldnt even waste time and would have began by threatening to cancel my (nonexistant) contract through the cancellation department since they have more power than your average rep.
But what is done is done, and I would do the same if I encountered that.
You might not like sprint and their mess going on over there with slow network and sketchy plan with wimax and lte. In other words, you might be miserable with their speeds, regardless of unlimited plans. Good luck. I'm looking to upgrade this vibrant to the s3 soon enough too. Served me well and still holds up against most low and mid range phones, but my GPS is just..
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I know I may not care for the speeds and all, but 90% of the time I am connected to wifi anyway so it really isn't that big of a deal and there are a few people I know around here on sprint that get good data speeds. I am in MN, so it's not like the network would get as overloaded as if I were in LA or NY. Plus I got the phone for free, and it's a good phone...but only time will tell. I will miss the trusty Vib, but I am going to use it as a music player I think...cracked screen shouldn't matter to much using it for that.
What's happened to T-Mobile's customer Service?
One of the thing that used to separate T-Mobile from other carriers was their customer service. Their one year wooing by AT&T seems to have completely screwed this once great attribute. I too am seriously dumping T-Mobile and switching to Sprint. I have a friend with 3 lines. He (and I) always buy our phones retail/Craigslist and go with No Contract plans. At the time he was using the pre-paid plan while I was on the Even More Plus plan. Both no contract plans. After getting the Galaxy Nexus, he decided to switch over to the 5GB EMP plan, but now they don't have that plan anymore. In fact, they have no non-contract plans at all anymore. I'm pretty sure, T-Mobile's going to lose 3 more customers in a couple of months. Oh well.
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One of the thing that used to separate T-Mobile from other carriers was their customer service. Their one year wooing by AT&T seems to have completely screwed this once great attribute. I too am seriously dumping T-Mobile and switching to Sprint. I have a friend with 3 lines. He (and I) always buy our phones retail/Craigslist and go with No Contract plans. At the time he was using the pre-paid plan while I was on the Even More Plus plan. Both no contract plans. After getting the Galaxy Nexus, he decided to switch over to the 5GB EMP plan, but now they don't have that plan anymore. In fact, they have no non-contract plans at all anymore. I'm pretty sure, T-Mobile's going to lose 3 more customers in a couple of months. Oh well.
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Look at their Monthly 4G plans. They are very in-expensive and contract free. (You can just buy a SIM and pop it into any unlocked/t-mo phone)
Went inside best buy mobile today to pick up my pre ordered note 4, and they told me that i had to switch my plan in order to walk out with the phone! The new plan they were trying to get me on would make me pay 800$ for my note and be "off contract". In order to switch to that plan id have to cancel all 5 of my lines, with the ETF fees up in the thousands of dollars. I told him no way and that id call sprint, and ge told me that even if I call i'd still have no choice. Anyone else encounter something similar?
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Went inside best buy mobile today to pick up my pre ordered note 4, and they told me that i had to switch my plan in order to walk out with the phone! The new plan they were trying to get me on would make me pay 800$ for my note and be "off contract". In order to switch to that plan id have to cancel all 5 of my lines, with the ETF fees up in the thousands of dollars. I told him no way and that id call sprint, and ge told me that even if I call i'd still have no choice. Anyone else encounter something similar?
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I had something similar happen to me today at the Sprint Store. The clerk insisted that I couldn't keep my plan. I told him to get bent. After a heated exchange, I turned on the phone, had the phone go through the automated activation process and viola, I was activated on my existing plan. He sheepishly mumbled something under his breath and I walked out with my phone.
I'm guessing they only make the sweet commission when they sign you up for a new plan.
I had trouble with keeping my plan at Best Buy as well but the Best Buy Mobile guy called Sprint. I didn't even have to push. He did that on his own. The woman at Sprint wanted to speak to me to get permission to speak with the clerk about my account. They were able to fix it so that I was able to keep my plan. It took a few minutes but didn't seem to be a problem. I have the old Everything Data 450 plan which I've had for a couple of years now. Got it with my Galaxy S3.
When I looked it up on Sprint's website a few days ago, it just said that you had to have an Everything Data plan (or some other type of plan but I can't remember the name) and it didn't specify that you had to have a higher plan. I'm glad I got to keep my plan. It's already more than I need. The plan he was looking to switch me to would've been $90 before taxes. Right now I pay $80.
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Im glad I'm not the only one. I'm calling sprint tomorrow first thing and heading back to BB
I was told we could keep our current plan.
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Been There Done That
I bought the Note 4 for my fiance` yesterday. We had been shopping around for phones for a while. Many of the sales rep's said the same thing, in that we had to switch plans and we could not buy the phone out right but instead had to make a $30/month payment for 24 months. This was not going to happen. I mean, what about my rebates and the 2 year contract discounts. Finally I called up the HQ corporate store in Reston VA to get the skinny on the situation. They instructed me to go to any corporate store and that they could get me the phone with my discounts and continue to use the plan I have on my phone, the S4. Long story short YES you can keep your old plan, YES you can buy the phone outright and not pay nearly $800 for the device! Now you know and anyone who says otherwise should win the employee of the month award.
PS The employees at sprint whom I have worked with at both HQ and other corporate locations are extremely knowledgeable and go out of there way to make sure you are happy with their service. One employee sat and entertained my son while the other explained how to best utilize the phones features while yet another went of to find an assortment of accessories. I felt like I was a celebrity. And they did this for every customer. It doesn't get much better than that.
Pre-order thru BB picked up yesterday no issues upgraded my line. Traded a old evo 4g got 200$ paid 123$ total for note 4. Can't beat that deal never tried or force me to change plan family 1500 here unlimited data
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Went inside best buy mobile today to pick up my pre ordered note 4, and they told me that i had to switch my plan in order to walk out with the phone! The new plan they were trying to get me on would make me pay 800$ for my note and be "off contract". In order to switch to that plan id have to cancel all 5 of my lines, with the ETF fees up in the thousands of dollars. I told him no way and that id call sprint, and ge told me that even if I call i'd still have no choice. Anyone else encounter something similar?
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When I went to pre-order at BB, that's what I was told as well.. They are saying that Sprint is forcing this issue.. I pre-ordered anyway, only because I want the 200 rebate on the old phone. I figured I'd argue the point when I pick it up.
Otherwise, I would have had my phone in hand already from Sprint instead of waiting on BB.
I picked up the note4 from the sprint store yesterday and ended up going with the new plan. They spelled out the two programs and said either are available with pros and cons of both and I ended up going with the "new" plan. Did I make a mistake ? Its still unlimited data and seemed to be mostly the same ?
So now you are paying 720 for the phone... Good deal?
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Seems wrong, here is mine
Monthly Charges, See below
Sprint Keep Existing Plan
With 2-year contract extension
Maybe you have 1 line and thats how? In mine case I got 4 lines and they cannot do anything to my plan because 3 lines have no change
I had the same issue in a sprint retail store. Im going to call tomarrow to try and get the plan back because i did not take that 720 dollar plan.
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I picked up the note4 from the sprint store yesterday and ended up going with the new plan. They spelled out the two programs and said either are available with pros and cons of both and I ended up going with the "new" plan. Did I make a mistake ? Its still unlimited data and seemed to be mostly the same ?
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the two new plans we offered now says in small writing, your plan can be throttled while watching a movie to 1 megabyte per second and people with other plans have priority over data than you do.
I tried to add a second line to my account which I have the 450 data unlimited plan and they said that they had to go into a new plan you have two phones I stated about the new rules of being throttled me act like you didn't know anything about it and would not look it up.
I don't watch alot of video over cell. So I'm fine with switching over. I can see for people who are using 10+ gigs a month that being a problem.
It's not just video. You get on the web at peak times, guess who gets bumped first. The peeps with the new plans. It might not matter to some. I live out in the boonies and have only one tower to connect to and sucks during peak. But Sprints my only choice, unless back to satillite.........NOT
I ended up getting my way by calling sprint in the best buy store to keep my existing plan, but he told me sprint was going to make me switch one way or another sooner than later.
Again that's not a bad thing. I don't get kicked off data. I just don't get priority data service. That's no different then other unlimited plans.
My data usage is somewhere between 1-2 gigs a month. I don't see it being that big of a deal. If its not your only source of net.
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I was told by Sprint rep that I would have to change plans if I upgraded through them. One Sprint rep told me other retailers such as BB could do the upgrade without changing plans. Both BB stores I talked to confirmed this. I had no problem when getting mine.
I pre-ordered two at BB and picked them up Friday. The guy during pre-order didn't have a problem with me keeping my plan and neither did the guy I picked them up from. Seems like it is hit or miss on knowledgeable versus not knowledgeable employees in both sprint and BB. It also sounds like someone us perpetuating something false to lots of people making it worse.
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Went inside best buy mobile today to pick up my pre ordered note 4, and they told me that i had to switch my plan in order to walk out with the phone! The new plan they were trying to get me on would make me pay 800$ for my note and be "off contract". In order to switch to that plan id have to cancel all 5 of my lines, with the ETF fees up in the thousands of dollars. I told him no way and that id call sprint, and ge told me that even if I call i'd still have no choice. Anyone else encounter something similar?
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I had the same issue, but at a Sprint corporate store! They kept telling me that we would have to call Sprint customer care and get their permission for us to keep our current plan (the grandfathered in 1500 Everything data plan). We called customer care from home, and they said they will put something on our account that says we wouldn't have to change our plan. When I went back to pre-order it, they told us we would have to call customer care in store in order to get this change approved. After a bunch of arguing everything was handled and I pre-ordered the phone (about 2 weeks ago). Friday comes, and that store never got the phone in. I was going out of town so I was a bit upset that I wasn't going to have my new phone. Saturday I went to a Sprint store where I was at for the weekend and they had Note 4's in-stock. While purchasing we weren't told we had to change our plan at all, and it was a very smooth process. The $80 that Samsung would send me 1-2 months from now for pre-ordering the phone was irrelevant at this point.
TLDR- One store said we had to change our plan and would not budge, Other store didn't even bring up changing our plan.