Is there anyone here with experience with the 900W8 (the Canadian version) on a customer ROM and kernel combination? I am rooted of course, want to get something that will give me more control, battery life, extra features.
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harry_fine said:
want to get something that will give me more control, battery life, extra features.
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You request is a bit vague.. what extra features are you looking for? Quite a few features require root and some require a custom kernels or recovery. The latter will trip the Knox flag. That doesn't matter to most people, but be aware that some carriers may try to deny warranty claims if you increment your Knox flag.
Towel root is the preferred rooting method for most people. It will work on pre June 6th firmware builds. You neglected to tell us what firmware build you had, but in any event if your firmware is newer than June 6th, you'd need to use the Odin software to write a pre-June 6th stock firmware to your phone first. Then use Towel root to root.
Then probably install a custom ROM that debloats your phone, making it smoother and faster, more power efficient, etc. And adding a lot of extra features and customizations. I like the Phoenix ROM for the S5. But there are a lot of other good ROMs e.g. Alliance, XtreStoLite, et al.
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Already have custom recovery and Knox tripped, thats not the issue.
There are so many different varients of S5 just looking for personal success stories for those with the Canadian W8 version to make sure radios wirk, don't brick etc.
fffft said:
You request is a bit vague.. what extra features are you looking for? Quite a few features require root and some require a custom kernels or recovery. The latter will trip the Knox flag. That doesn't matter to most people, but be aware that some carriers may try to deny warranty claims if you increment your Knox flag.
Towel root is the preferred rooting method for most people. It will work on pre June 6th firmware builds. You neglected to tell us what firmware build you had, but in any event if your firmware is newer than June 6th, you'd need to use the Odin software to write a pre-June 6th stock firmware to your phone first. Then use Towel root to root.
Then probably install a custom ROM that debloats your phone, making it smoother and faster, more power efficient, etc. And adding a lot of extra features and customizations. I like the Phoenix ROM for the S5. But there are a lot of other good ROMs e.g. Alliance, XtreStoLite, et al.
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Hello!
I've been falling behind in android workings in the last couple of years. There seems to be many different ways to flash rom these days and now that KNOX has become such an nuisance for thousands of samsung users, I'm really lost at this time.
Since introducing towelroot, me and many others have been able to root successfully note 3 android 4.4.2, so the question arise in my head that is there a way to flash custom rom without tripping knox? If so and there are more than one way, what are the easiest ways?
Mobile Odin Pro may be an option for this.
As long as you do not flash custom kernel or recovery in any way (be aware of ROMs that may do it), you shouldn't trip KNOX. Emphasis on "shouldn't", I can't give any guarantees.
I have been having the same question... Not that I care so much about the knox portion but in general it seems that roms aren't working on the 4.4.2 update, with NC4 anyway. I have my phone rooted and safestrap going which is about where I'm stuck till I get an answer.
stuff_me said:
Hello!
I've been falling behind in android workings in the last couple of years. There seems to be many different ways to flash rom these days and now that KNOX has become such an nuisance for thousands of samsung users, I'm really lost at this time.
Since introducing towelroot, me and many others have been able to root successfully note 3 android 4.4.2, so the question arise in my head that is there a way to flash custom rom without tripping knox? If so and there are more than one way, what are the easiest ways?
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Someguyfromhell said:
Mobile Odin Pro may be an option for this.
As long as you do not flash custom kernel or recovery in any way (be aware of ROMs that may do it), you shouldn't trip KNOX. Emphasis on "shouldn't", I can't give any guarantees.
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Damn... so I cannot flash any custom kernel without tripping knox? I read before about not being able to flash custom recovery, but I was hoping to be able to change at least the kernel for something that supports overclocking now that I have root access.
This knox seems to be the biggest decease of the mobile world right now. I pay few hundred euros for basically pocket sized computer and I cannot choose myself what software to run on it?
Hey,
I have recently acquired SGS4 in place of my SGS3. I have used to change a rom every week, but now all I would like is a stable, rooted and .
I just discovered all the fuss about Knox and I am even more dissapointed. I really didn't want to buy another Samsung device (Exynos resources, SDS and their horrible overlay) but the offer on it was just insanely good compared to everything else to I took it.
Anyway, below are my current bootloader/firmware information:
http://i.imgur.com/G5pThnv.png
http://i.imgur.com/sl7M1VC.png
As you can see it is 4.3 from T-Mobile from november.
Now would you be so kind and tell me:
Can I root and modify my rom and bootloader on any custom without loosing my warranty?
If not, can I root and change the rom to the google edition?
If nope again, hopefuly I can at least use root with one of the latest Samsung roms? (without T-Mobile bloatware)
You live in the EU. That means that even if Samsung doesn't want to fix your device because you tripped Knox (unlikely that they won't fix it), the store you bought it from still has to fix it even with Knox tripped. That is consumer law which should also apply in Poland.
You can only root without tripping Knox.
You can not flash a recovery without tripping Knox, thus you cannot flash custom roms without tripping it.
So just root and flash the rom you want. You can even skip the part of rooting and just flash a custom recovery.
There are no downsides if you tripped Knox.
hie i moved from iphone 4s to note 4 in oct last year however kept busy so could realy get in customizing it much yet howeve now tht i do have time i was thinking of rooting it and seeing how it goes however i understand then ota updates dnt work if i root would then updating over kies with a cable b fine also i understand tht knox is tripped so no warranty after tht however say after rooting i install custom roms would the s pen and finger print scaners and stuff normally cause they are a few thing tht i do use frequently . any other cons that i shd know before rooting or flashng custom roms ?
Installing a custom rom without rooting does not break the warrenty and you will be able to use all the features of the Note 4 as you would if you were using the stock firmware. Rooting just makes you a super user and allows you to install apps which require root privilages such as Titanium Backup.
Pardon me but to install custom roms you require a custom recovery which would trip Knox?
Okay, so first of all ask yourself whether you want to use knox specific features such as secure pay (Pay by using NFC), KNOX enterprise features which an average user will not use.
Secondly, If you wish to remove apps that are pre-installed on the device as they may be slowing down the device and ruining battery life then you will have to root or install a custom rom to deal with those, or you could simply try disabling them in the app manager without root.
After rooting if you use Touchwiz based custom roms you will still have 99% of the Note 4 features still available and sometimes you get additional features which would otherwise not be available for example removing restrictions such as recording calls which maybe disabled in your region or carrier. This is just one of the many features that you gain.
So your Spen, fingerprint scanner will all work as long as you use a Touchwiz based rom.
If however you want to use the latest and greatest version of Android and enjoy a clean and smooth experience then you may wish to install AOSP roms however they currently do no support fingerprint scanner and nor do they have built in SPen features.
A custom recovery will allow you to backup your current rom and restore it later if you so desire, this backup will store you settings, apps and the current rom which can be restored if you want to return to the setup.
The only con of rooting and flashing is that you read the instructions in the thread and do no deviated from it unless you know what you are doing.
Voiding your warranty is also a potential con, however here in the UK and Europe Samsung will have to repair your device in accordance to the law and I have had my Samsung Galaxy S4 repaired multiple times with the KNOx warranty tripped; however Samsung have rejected some claims in the past for some people.
If you have anymore questions then please do not hesitate to ask.
The best advice I can give is Google till you just can't any more! Read everything you can about rooting your model of handset...then read it two more times. I've rooted a few phones now and never hit more than a simple soft brick which is easily fixed. Because I read everything I can find before I start.
Not a direct answer to your questions I know but hopefully both reassurance and warning at the same time.
On a side note if is really just customisation you want without the adventure of rooting try a launcher like nova, Go etc. You can really go wild with customisation without losing any features or tripping Knox.
I haven't touched my S5 (G900F) since I rooted it 3.5 years ago. At the time I was careful to retain KNOX.
Now I'm looking to upgrade - found a thread allowing me to put Android 5.0 on it pretty easily but it that the latest I can safely use?
Also, I assume that anything other than flashing a Stock Rom will result in the loss of KNOX - is that something I should worry about given that the warranty on the phone is long expired? Do any apps check KNOX and refuse to run if broken (e.g. Paypal and other Banking apps)?
If I should retain KNOX, what ROM should I be flashing?
If KNOX doesn't matter any more, then is there a debloated Stock ROM available for the S5?
tangoman99 said:
I haven't touched my S5 (G900F) since I rooted it 3.5 years ago. At the time I was careful to retain KNOX.
Now I'm looking to upgrade - found a thread allowing me to put Android 5.0 on it pretty easily but it that the latest I can safely use?
Also, I assume that anything other than flashing a Stock Rom will result in the loss of KNOX - is that something I should worry about given that the warranty on the phone is long expired? Do any apps check KNOX and refuse to run if broken (e.g. Paypal and other Banking apps)?
If I should retain KNOX, what ROM should I be flashing?
If KNOX doesn't matter any more, then is there a debloated Stock ROM available for the S5?
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If you are already rooted, a custom OS shouldn't affect it, if the OS wants you to update SU after installation, you may want to look at magisk when you run the OS. Do a nandroid back up before you do this.
OK - thanks for the input - a few things to clarify:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-triggering-knox-2nd-method-t2843044
Suggests that to FLash Android 5 WITHOUT triggering KNOX, I need to see https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/rom-ane4-kitkat-4-4-2-multi-csc-t2813628
The link is clearly out of date though as the latter is now at Android 6.01, but more importantly, the latter states that Installation is via CMW/TWRP recovery and KNOX is triggered.
Presumably I need to flash the new ROM from within the current ROM - what's the best software for that - I found Flashfire, but it was a post dated 2015.
Hello,
So recently, I've encountered the same Issue I've been having for a long time with any sort of Samsung device - performance. I find my device annoyingly slow. A factory reset fixes this but then the phone bogs down.
I've decided to look into potentially flashing a custom rom to see if they're far more optimised than the stock rom. The problem is, I'm a warranty freak. I like to keep my warranty intact and modify the device later on once the warranty has gone. Obviously, the Knox flag is a thing and I don't want to trip it.
When I had my One Plus 3, I had none of this and rooting/custom roms didn't bother me as it was covered in the warranty - this is a big no no with Samsung.
I'm not so much wanting to change the kernel or the bootloader or use TWRP - just install a new custom rom to hopefully get some performance gains and maybe root too.
TL;DR Is there a viable method to installing a custom rom without tripping Knox?
I am precisly on the same situation as you are
WhaleTrain said:
Hello,
So recently, I've encountered the same Issue I've been having for a long time with any sort of Samsung device - performance. I find my device annoyingly slow. A factory reset fixes this but then the phone bogs down.
I've decided to look into potentially flashing a custom rom to see if they're far more optimised than the stock rom. The problem is, I'm a warranty freak. I like to keep my warranty intact and modify the device later on once the warranty has gone. Obviously, the Knox flag is a thing and I don't want to trip it.
When I had my One Plus 3, I had none of this and rooting/custom roms didn't bother me as it was covered in the warranty - this is a big no no with Samsung.
I'm not so much wanting to change the kernel or the bootloader or use TWRP - just install a new custom rom to hopefully get some performance gains and maybe root too.
TL;DR Is there a viable method to installing a custom rom without tripping Knox?
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If you have a exynos version then its impossible this moment to have a custom rom without having twrp, which in turn will trip Knox and may effect warranty depending what currently in
sofir786 said:
If you have a exynos version then its impossible this moment to have a custom rom without having twrp, which in turn will trip Knox and may effect warranty depending what currently in
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Dang it, I do have the Exynos version.
So is there an exploit only applicable to the SD variant?
WhaleTrain said:
Dang it, I do have the Exynos version.
So is there an exploit only applicable to the SD variant?
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Yep, the kind-of exploit is only on SD variant.
Although, it can be said that the exploit isn't that good as well, since you will be unable to flash custom ROM (only debloats etc IIRC).
So, they are unable to flash cutom kernel etc.
hi , what about installing custom rom with heimdall? no need for root, no need for twrp. will this triggger knox as well? does exynos/snapdragon matter in this scenario?
hey,
heimdall is only an alternative to odin, anything non samsung trips knox
Is there any way to flash an official rom without rooting to replace my actual one from my carrier? or just a way to at least change the boot screen logo?
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