hie i moved from iphone 4s to note 4 in oct last year however kept busy so could realy get in customizing it much yet howeve now tht i do have time i was thinking of rooting it and seeing how it goes however i understand then ota updates dnt work if i root would then updating over kies with a cable b fine also i understand tht knox is tripped so no warranty after tht however say after rooting i install custom roms would the s pen and finger print scaners and stuff normally cause they are a few thing tht i do use frequently . any other cons that i shd know before rooting or flashng custom roms ?
Installing a custom rom without rooting does not break the warrenty and you will be able to use all the features of the Note 4 as you would if you were using the stock firmware. Rooting just makes you a super user and allows you to install apps which require root privilages such as Titanium Backup.
Pardon me but to install custom roms you require a custom recovery which would trip Knox?
Okay, so first of all ask yourself whether you want to use knox specific features such as secure pay (Pay by using NFC), KNOX enterprise features which an average user will not use.
Secondly, If you wish to remove apps that are pre-installed on the device as they may be slowing down the device and ruining battery life then you will have to root or install a custom rom to deal with those, or you could simply try disabling them in the app manager without root.
After rooting if you use Touchwiz based custom roms you will still have 99% of the Note 4 features still available and sometimes you get additional features which would otherwise not be available for example removing restrictions such as recording calls which maybe disabled in your region or carrier. This is just one of the many features that you gain.
So your Spen, fingerprint scanner will all work as long as you use a Touchwiz based rom.
If however you want to use the latest and greatest version of Android and enjoy a clean and smooth experience then you may wish to install AOSP roms however they currently do no support fingerprint scanner and nor do they have built in SPen features.
A custom recovery will allow you to backup your current rom and restore it later if you so desire, this backup will store you settings, apps and the current rom which can be restored if you want to return to the setup.
The only con of rooting and flashing is that you read the instructions in the thread and do no deviated from it unless you know what you are doing.
Voiding your warranty is also a potential con, however here in the UK and Europe Samsung will have to repair your device in accordance to the law and I have had my Samsung Galaxy S4 repaired multiple times with the KNOx warranty tripped; however Samsung have rejected some claims in the past for some people.
If you have anymore questions then please do not hesitate to ask.
The best advice I can give is Google till you just can't any more! Read everything you can about rooting your model of handset...then read it two more times. I've rooted a few phones now and never hit more than a simple soft brick which is easily fixed. Because I read everything I can find before I start.
Not a direct answer to your questions I know but hopefully both reassurance and warning at the same time.
On a side note if is really just customisation you want without the adventure of rooting try a launcher like nova, Go etc. You can really go wild with customisation without losing any features or tripping Knox.
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I just got the Note 3 and as usual the huge amount of info / threads is making it hard to get some basic overview even after hours of reading the subforums and I have xda experience ever since I had the original Galaxy S.
If we can get these Q's answered in a short summary, it might also help others who are just getting started with this device and don't have more than a day to spend on setting up their Note 3 the way they need it:
4.3 to 4.4 KitKat - pro's & con's ?
My SM-N9005 shipped with Android 4.3 Jelly Bean, if I update OTA or with Kies to 4.4 KitKat, will I have any disadvantage at all at this stage? Will it prevent me from doing something, especially in relation to KNOX, custom ROMS or recoveries, rooting, etc?
Rooting: CF-Auto-Root or De La Vega?
The Note 3 subforum has a "Root Info" tab and it refers to the CF-Auto-Root method, which I understand works for both 4.3 and 4.4 as long as the correct version is flashed with Odin. Seems to be the No. 1 choice.
In the Subforum however another Rooting thread is stickied instead, refering to the "De La Vega" method. What are the pro's & con's?
KNOX summary / current status?
From what I could gather there is no way yet to hide the fact that there was ever a custom ROM or recovery on this device, not even if you flash back to stock, correct?
Rooting however can be undone.
Getting rid of the "My Magazine" when pressing home button - wtf?
Only when you have an internet connection can you get into the My Magazine app to enter the settings and disable it to launch when pressing the home button, without internet connection to disable the Terms & Conditions, the app won't even start, so you can't get to the menu to disable it, is there any other way?
Using an alternative launcher seems to help.
What stable ROM should a privacy & security minded person use, who still wants to ensure not to miss out on the features and performace of the camera & the S Pen ?
If I want to get rid of at least most of the google and Samsung stuff that clogs up my RAM and "phones home" to Samsung and Google servers, but still don't wanna deprive myself of Google Play and Google Maps for navigation (got lost too much using OSM) and I want to be more of a power user having root, using Titanium backup and otherwise running AFWall firewall, VPN, and lots of cool open source privacy stuff, what would be the recommended ROM for my Note 3?
To bump and to further clarify:
I installed Kies 3 and it's asking me to update my Note 3 as follows:
Current firmware version : PDA:MJ7 / PHONE:MJ7 / CSC:MJ1 (VIA)
Latest firmware version : PDA:NB4 / PHONE:NB1 / CSC:NB1 (VIA)
If I update, will it have a disadvantage? I still can't figure out how to root it, and if there is a way to flash custom ROMs or recovery without triggering the KNOX flag.
This is a German phone, I am not sure if it's locked to a certain carrier and not sure how to find out.
I'm in the same situation as you - don't have the links at hand but yet I know that it's better to not upgrade to 4.4 because you'll get a new bootloader that gets you a hard time using custom roms after rooting the device.
This is the link I got asking for a safe rooting Note 3 without tripping Knox [No Warranty Void] Safe Root Android 4.3 for Samsung Galaxy S3..., remember to stay with Android 4.3!
For support in your native language this one was helpful for me too http://www.androidpit.de/de/android/forum/category/2003626/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-Forum
To remove standard apps from Samsung/Google installed on the device take a look at Samsung GALAXY Note 3 Cleaner
Hope I could help a little
My question is in the title of thread? So i had an xperia sp, and i unlocked bootloader and installed a cyanogenmod and i had an warranty (broke my microphone) And they gave new phone to me, i hope that they will be stuipid in services if i somehow spoil my phone (god forbid (google translate)).... But never mind for warranty, probably i will install cwm and flash new roms cause i want to make more video reviews about roms kernels etc.. Also check out my channel on youtube if you want. Whats your opinion?
Well if you want to flash roms then you HAVE to root
Best thing I did was to root & flash this phone
4.2.2 original rom should equal to no knox enabled so root away. On the other hand, if you're worried about warranty and you're on 4.3.x or 4.4.x then your warranty is lost if you tinkle with it - Knox is going to be triggered and warranty is void.
Do the math and root awayall the same , and do take care about your phone there are much more benefits from rooting it, then not doing so
Last week I received a brand new S5 G900F, no carrier, and want to have administrator privileges in order to remove bloatware. Plus, it would be nice to have adblock and apps to back up the entire system, both which aren't available in the phone's stock form, and maybe a custom ROM and Kernel.
I have never rooted a phone nor messed with its system files, so I'm a complete newbie on this. Also, I haven't connected it to the Internet yet, so that the phone is in its stock form before rooting it.
What's the simplest, safest yet effective method for rooting my phone? Afterwards, can I just update the phone to the latest version using the regular system settings menu, or should I do it externally (downloading the update on the PC)? Any particular tips on what to do next, such as what apps to remove, which to install and so on, if possible while keeping it simple? I read that CM 12.1 (ROM) + Ktoonsez (Kernel) is the way to go.
Thanks in advance.
Hi Avensvvvvvv
The best, safeest way to Root? - Have a look in the Q&A Forum, its mostly all here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2700073
Some people use TowelRoot...
I used CF Auto root and found it easier. You can find here at XDA or at http://droidors.com/2015/03/24/root-samsung-galaxy-s5-sm-g900i-android-lollipop-5-0/ be aware that this link is for the g900i ot the g900f.
As for updating etc....a lot of the latest ROMS come with OTA (over the air) updates. Which ROMS? There is kind of a rule here that you dont ask which ROM is best because the idea is that you do loads of reading and try them out for yourself Lately Ive been playing around with PhoeniX ROM, Alliance ROM and some of the CM stuff...but all are good. Removal of Bloatware is pretty straight forward using Titanium Backup - or some ROMS supply their own method for doing do. Just be sure to not mess around with any of the system files while your still learning. Search Bloatware and you should find some good advice.
Thats about it mate - the main thing is to read, read, read and ask lots of questions before you do anything. Otherwise you'll have a very expensive paperweight on your desk Most of the people here are cool with Noobs asking questions in the correct forums....by the way this post should really be posted in the Q&A forum
Good luck flashing and rooting...and most of all....have fun!
Mugsyfied
You have a good answer in the above post.....
But in future, you need to give us more information about your device so that we can offer advice that is suited more exactly to your circumstances....
The version of Android currently running on your device is one critical bit of info you didn't provide.....
Some things to bear in mind about your phone....
1) Samsung have included something called Knox on these phones....it is basically an un-resettable 'eFuse' which 'tripps' when you flash any custom software to your device. Samsung are using it as an indicator to allow them to deny warranty claims.
2) when you root your phone you WILL trip knox, this will probably prevent you from receiving OTA updates to your device....and even if (by some miracle) you did get an OTA, it will remove your root access, and you'll have to start again....
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
Hey guys,
I always used custom rom in my life, i was at Xperia Z1 and the stock was very bad... But with S6 i don't feel i need to get a custom, i enjoy a lot the Samsung work on the stock, but after looking the Miui 7, i really thought in flashing the custom rom.
So the question is... I saw that Knox and Samsung Pay will not work after the process, is there a way, later, that I can get back to original and get the Knox and Pay working again? My concern is about the security on Knox and the Pay when i sell the phone in the future, because I don't use this feature...
Thanks a lot if anyone can answer me!
Im no expert on android devices but from what I am heard you have to do a full factory reset to a stock rom and samsung pay will be enable but knox counter will still show that it has been tripped.
I haven't touched my S5 (G900F) since I rooted it 3.5 years ago. At the time I was careful to retain KNOX.
Now I'm looking to upgrade - found a thread allowing me to put Android 5.0 on it pretty easily but it that the latest I can safely use?
Also, I assume that anything other than flashing a Stock Rom will result in the loss of KNOX - is that something I should worry about given that the warranty on the phone is long expired? Do any apps check KNOX and refuse to run if broken (e.g. Paypal and other Banking apps)?
If I should retain KNOX, what ROM should I be flashing?
If KNOX doesn't matter any more, then is there a debloated Stock ROM available for the S5?
tangoman99 said:
I haven't touched my S5 (G900F) since I rooted it 3.5 years ago. At the time I was careful to retain KNOX.
Now I'm looking to upgrade - found a thread allowing me to put Android 5.0 on it pretty easily but it that the latest I can safely use?
Also, I assume that anything other than flashing a Stock Rom will result in the loss of KNOX - is that something I should worry about given that the warranty on the phone is long expired? Do any apps check KNOX and refuse to run if broken (e.g. Paypal and other Banking apps)?
If I should retain KNOX, what ROM should I be flashing?
If KNOX doesn't matter any more, then is there a debloated Stock ROM available for the S5?
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If you are already rooted, a custom OS shouldn't affect it, if the OS wants you to update SU after installation, you may want to look at magisk when you run the OS. Do a nandroid back up before you do this.
OK - thanks for the input - a few things to clarify:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-triggering-knox-2nd-method-t2843044
Suggests that to FLash Android 5 WITHOUT triggering KNOX, I need to see https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/rom-ane4-kitkat-4-4-2-multi-csc-t2813628
The link is clearly out of date though as the latter is now at Android 6.01, but more importantly, the latter states that Installation is via CMW/TWRP recovery and KNOX is triggered.
Presumably I need to flash the new ROM from within the current ROM - what's the best software for that - I found Flashfire, but it was a post dated 2015.