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I gotta know if anyone else is having the same problems connecting to wifi as I am. Whenever I try to connect to my wireless network with any of my devices, it's sporadic. Sometimes it'll connect right away. Most of the time, it takes two or three minutes (!) and sometimes it'll puke on itself and say it doesn't see the network.
In the latter two cases, I can delete the profile for the network and power-cycle the device and it'll connect to the network almost immediately. As you might guess, this is an annoying process to go through.
It never really bothered me until my wife got an iPhone and it connected immediately to the network and does so EVERY TIME SHE USES IT!
Can anyone help me out? Why do these devices take so darn long to connect?
This is the second router I've used (first was a Linksys, currently I'm using a Trendnet), the Raphael (Fuze) and Tornado (SDA) are running their stock ROMs. The Wizard (MDA), I've gone a little flash-happy on, but I've encountered the same problem with all ROMs I've tried.
I'll admit I haven't checked what channels neighboring wifi networks are using (I'm pretty sure I'm the only one on my channel), but when I first got my Tornado and Wizard, mine was the only network (visible) and I was still having problems. And regardless, is the wifi radio in the iPhone that much better than my HTC devices?
(Just a side note, I have three wireless laptops that are all able to connect to the router without a hitch, adding to my belief that my network is on its own channel.)
Just wanted to update everyone that, last night, I checked the wireless networks I could see from my house and none share the same channel as mine, however I didn't take overlap into consideration. The lack of response to this thread would suggest to me I'm the only one encountering this type of problem, so I'll do some experimenting in an area with no other wireless activity and see if connecting is still slow.
O.K. I tested the Wizard and Raphael with a router in an area with no other wireless activity and discovered the following:
If the devices are set for DHCP, it takes a long time to connect. However, they did connect and remain connected without any problems.
If the devices have static IP addresses, they connect immediately and remain connected without any problems.
Conclusion:
The DHCP discovery on these devices takes too darn long to acquire addresses. That, and the slightest bit of EM noise can cause them to crap out. Since I don't have problems with other wireless devices (laptops, iPhone), I'm left with the assumption that either the radio is poor quality (unlikely) or the driver needs some serious fixing (most likely).
When and if the noble developers of this board get linux up and running on the Raphael, I'll be more than happy to test it out.
Since this thread was self-answering and would seem to be of little value, please feel free to delete it, moderators.
Hi all,
I just got my device, and still thinking whether to send it back in 7 days. My main complain is the wifi. I have never seen more than 2 bars (out of 4) signal strength, even when sitting 2 meters from the router. Moreover it always drops the connection. I realized it when I tried to use IE for browsing, since that doesn't tolerate it and I keep getting the connection lost messages. Seems that Opera can live with it, but I see when the connection dropped during the page load. Youtube watcher also cannot manage to download videos when the signal is dropped.
The Tx/Rx rate also changes chaotically from 1Mb/1Mb to 54Mb/36Mb.
Before you ask: the Power Mode of wifi is set to "Best Performance", since this is the only way it is usable.
Anybody else with similar experiences?
Any solution?
I really appreciate any help, I would like to keep it!
I have no problems what-so-ever with the wifi on my D2...
It runs very well, in all applications that can use it.
- and I have full signal when I am within 5 meters of the router.
I haven't changed any settings on the device, and the router is running on WPA2-PSK at a channel not used by any of my neighbours.
Maybe you have many wireless networks in your area?
Hi,
I have more or less your problems (I opened a thead about it the day I unpacked my D2 but wasn't really condiderated). Here's my condition: I have 3 HTC devices...Artemis-->regular functioning (balanced power), TytnII-->Power Performance MUST be set to high performance, Topaz..well I could connect with balanced power but since I upgraded radio I have to keep it set to best performance, otherwise I would get "fake" connections (connection established but no data taffic). I don't really bother to have to set it like that because the connection is dam fast, which compensates the higher power consumpion.But beside this, I must say that my router is not very friendly with my D2,e.g. when I don't get a connection,I restart it and it works (this must have to do with DCHP service). I have much less trouble connecting alsewhere. So ,what to say? Try to change radio...Do you have other wireless devices working regularly in the same area?Do you have an original rom?You could also try to change wifi channel..would be happy to help
Hi,
Thank you for the answer. I have original ROM, just checked the radio, it is: 3.43.25.19. I didn't experience "fake connections" when it is connected, it is so .
I cannot change the wifi channel, the same router is used by others. However it cannot be the cause of my issues since my notebook's network works fine on the same router.
Changing the radio... seems a good idea. It is my very first smart device, I even thought that this version number was for the hardware, not the software . I will find out how to do it, maybe give it a try. Hope it is an officially supported action .
Hi Lamsebamsen,
The TD2 sees 4 wifi networks, my notebook sees 8. Is it many or not? I think the 4 which the TD doesn't see is many .
foldip said:
Hope it is an officially supported action .
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I'm afraid not, as you would have to HardSPL your device first. There would still a way to get back to your original configuration but I don't know if you are prone to do so, that depends on how much responsability you can take on your device (is it from work or..). Another thing to try is to manually configurate your connection (e.g. assign D2 always the same IP, but watchout for network collisions!router should be set aswell)
Hello all,
I've had my Nexus 10 since Christmas and it's never given me any problems. Within the last 3 or 4 days, however, I noticed my videos weren't loading like normal, so I've been running speedtests and it is completely inconsistent. My phone and computer will consistently pull 20+ Mbps, but the N10 is crazy. Sometimes it's 3Mbps, sometimes it's 10Mbps, sometimes it's 16Mbps. Every time I check, it's different. I've used multiple programs and websites to read the speeds, and they're all reporting the same. I can stand in another room, or right next to the router, same story. The wifi never fully drops, it just slows way down. I don't have a case on it. I've turned on and off the Wi-Fi optimization in settings. I've turned on and off location settings. Nothing helps! Please let me know if you have any ideas. I am hoping I won't have to return the darn thing, it seems crazy.
As per my internet, it's Comcast, Surfboard modem with a Linksys E1000 (Wireless-N, 2.4GHz) using WPA. Restarting that did not help. I am open to the idea of changing some settings on the router however, if that might be a solution. Also, signal strength on the N10 says "Excellent" and link speed says 130Mbps.
Thanks for your help!
muchnginawkt
I too have this problem so now Im going to attempt to root the device
Glad to hear someone else is having similar problems.
Possible good news: I changed my protection from WPA(mixed) to WPA2, and so far things seem to be much more consistent. This may just be a fluke, but it's looking much better so far.
If you have a router with 2.4GHz band only, try changing it to 2.4GHz under WiFi settings on the Nexus.
I had some disconnection problems due to that and somewhat inconsistent speeds, I've seen it fix a lot of peoples problems, I've yet to have a transfer problem so far with limiting WiFi to the speed of my router.
Other issues some see is using N wide or dual channel (40Mhz). As the N10 only supports 20 Mhz in 2.4GHz it seems to get confused.
Most other devices either support 40GHz or handle switching more gracefully.
In short force router to 20 Mhz/single channel, may report more consistent behaviour.
On 5Ghz it does not matter as the N10 supports 40Mhz/Dual channel.
Odd, I know.
My experience is that sometimes with wifi issues, wiping the cache (if custom recovery is available) would resolve the issues for some time, but it might be due to an beta ROM.
P.S> on 5GHz wifi I am able to hit 122Mb/s
it has WIFI, mine hardly works
After a few hours of testing, I am now consistently getting 20mbps + as I should be. My router is set to 20MHz only, but I think the main issue was the security settings. It just wasn't dealing with WPA(mixed) well.
Hey guys,
My nexus 10 had a gray Wi-Fi bar and is failing to connect any of the Google services such as play store, search app, or gmail. Basically GAPPS. I cannot find a solution to this besides factory resetting, can someone help? My tablet is on stock rooted.
Thanks!
add12364
My N10 either has a grey WiFi bar or it disconnects completely. This happens very often and occurs no matter what rom I have, even stock. I've always felt that the WiFi has always had issues but never got resolved. I've looked around for solutions but not found any. Much appreciated if someone explained or had a solution.
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I completely cannot use Google play, someone please help.
Toggle the Wifi off and then back on a few seconds later.
If this doesnt fix anything then you need to modify your router settings to be compatible.
Don't use 5g on router.
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5GHz networks work fine on this tablet.
trickster2369 said:
Don't use 5g on router.
Sent from my Nexus 10
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No offense meant, but that's a pretty silly claim. The transmission technology involved (2.4GHz/5GHz) or protocol (802.11a/b/g/n/ac) has no bearing on the color of the Wi-Fi indicator, which indicates just one thing: does a request to Google's secure servers work, or not? It's virtually always a problem with the network setup, be it with the ISP or the router blocking a port. OP should try using a public access point (coffee shop or something) or mobile hotspot to see if they're able to connect that way.
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5GHz networks work fine on this tablet.
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My apologies. There was a lot of discussion concerning the use of 5ghz when the tablet was released. My comment was more of a suggestion than an absolute, and probably wasn't written the best.
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No offense meant, but that's a pretty silly claim. The transmission technology involved (2.4GHz/5GHz) or protocol (802.11a/b/g/n/ac) has no bearing on the color of the Wi-Fi indicator, which indicates just one thing: does a request to Google's secure servers work, or not? It's virtually always a problem with the network setup, be it with the ISP or the router blocking a port. OP should try using a public access point (coffee shop or something) or mobile hotspot to see if they're able to connect that way.
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None taken. I was under the impression that grey/no bars, meant that there was no signal or there was a connection issue. I had no idea that the wifi state on the tablet had anything to do with Googles secure servers. I would like to learn more about that, if you would be so kind.
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None taken. I was under the impression that gray/no bars, meant that there was no signal or there was a connection issue. I had no idea that the wifi state on the tablet had anything to do with Googles secure servers. I would like to learn more about that, if you would be so kind.
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The Wi-Fi state doesn't depend on the connection to Google's servers-- that's why it's quite possible to get full graybars. You'll also notice that if your Wi-Fi goes to sleep, when you wake up a (stock) Android device, you should basically always see it gray first, then turn blue after a second or so (speed depends on how good your connection is).
It's also not as simple as just going to google.com, because you can (usually) do that regardless of the status reported. That's because going to google.com only relies on basic HTTP/HTTPS web traffic through ports 80 and 443, which on most functioning networks are never going to be blocked (mostly because it would make even basic web browsing more or less impossible without workarounds). All of your "real" transactions with Google (Gmail sync, location reporting, etc.) happen through secured connections that run on different ports.
Some networks will block those ports for security reasons (the more ports you have open, the greater the network's functionality-- and its vulnerability to outside attack). In those situations, you'll see a gray bar indicating that while you've got connectivity, you won't be able to establish the connection to Google needed for some services to run (most importantly, any GCM/C2DM-based push notifications).
And no problem. Unfortunately, many OEMs muck around with the iconography, making this distinction meaningless on a pretty wide range of devices. It's annoying because this is one of the more common reasons that Google services don't work.
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The Wi-Fi state doesn't depend on the connection to Google's servers-- that's why it's quite possible to get full graybars. You'll also notice that if your Wi-Fi goes to sleep, when you wake up a (stock) Android device, you should basically always see it gray first, then turn blue after a second or so (speed depends on how good your connection is).
It's also not as simple as just going to google.com, because you can (usually) do that regardless of the status reported. That's because going to google.com only relies on basic HTTP/HTTPS web traffic through ports 80 and 443, which on most functioning networks are never going to be blocked (mostly because it would make even basic web browsing more or less impossible without workarounds). All of your "real" transactions with Google (Gmail sync, location reporting, etc.) happen through secured connections that run on different ports.
Some networks will block those ports for security reasons (the more ports you have open, the greater the network's functionality-- and its vulnerability to outside attack). In those situations, you'll see a gray bar indicating that while you've got connectivity, you won't be able to establish the connection to Google needed for some services to run (most importantly, any GCM/C2DM-based push notifications).
And no problem. Unfortunately, many OEMs muck around with the iconography, making this distinction meaningless on a pretty wide range of devices. It's annoying because this is one of the more common reasons that Google services don't work.
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Would you happen to know if roms can affect wifi reception?
ikenvape said:
Would you happen to know if roms can affect wifi reception?
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ROMs and kernels shouldn't affect reception in a technical sense (unless the kernel developer really messes up or something), but they will affect what your device can do with the signal it has. There are also various modes your device can follow that offer compromises (i.e. for CDMA devices, EVRC-B vs. EVRC-C -- one is better for normal usage, the other holds clearer calls with low signal).
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ROMs and kernels shouldn't affect reception in a technical sense (unless the kernel developer really messes up or something), but they will affect what your device can do with the signal it has. There are also various modes your device can follow that offer compromises (i.e. for CDMA devices, EVRC-B vs. EVRC-C -- one is better for normal usage, the other holds clearer calls with low signal).
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Really appreciate the reply Rirere
I tried several lately. Since day one I have been receiving such poor reception. We have heavy wireless users here ranging from multiple game stations,phones tablets ,PC's etc. All have been receiving full strength except for the N10. From what your saying it seems like I have adjust the router for this one.
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Really appreciate the reply Rirere
I tried several lately. Since day one I have been receiving such poor reception. We have heavy wireless users here ranging from multiple game stations,phones tablets ,PC's etc. All have been receiving full strength except for the N10. From what your saying it seems like I have adjust the router for this one.
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Could you be a little more specific? Android has some nasty Wi-Fi issues (never have as many on my iOS devices), but the situation you describe doesn't sound like it helps. I'm the student manager at a college helpdesk, so we sometimes have this kind of problem in the dorms. If you give some more info about your setup, I might be able to at least point you in the right direction.
Things like what's the make and model of the router, where it's located, how close are neighbors, and so on. You can also use this app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLDEsImNvbS5mYXJwcm9jLndpZmkuYW5hbHl6ZXIiXQ) to see if there's channel interference. If your router is new enough, you could also potentially kick it up to use 5GHz only (although that causes lower speeds the further you get much faster than auto 2.4GHz/5GHz).
Rirere said:
Could you be a little more specific? Android has some nasty Wi-Fi issues (never have as many on my iOS devices), but the situation you describe doesn't sound like it helps. I'm the student manager at a college helpdesk, so we sometimes have this kind of problem in the dorms. If you give some more info about your setup, I might be able to at least point you in the right direction.
Things like what's the make and model of the router, where it's located, how close are neighbors, and so on. You can also use this app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLDEsImNvbS5mYXJwcm9jLndpZmkuYW5hbHl6ZXIiXQ) to see if there's channel interference. If your router is new enough, you could also potentially kick it up to use 5GHz only (although that causes lower speeds the further you get much faster than auto 2.4GHz/5GHz).
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Your too kind Reiere Thank you,
I'm using a Media Link MWN-WAPR150N. I see, it doesn't support 5ghz which seems to be a total bummer. I could have sworn that I purchased a dual band model. It's a wonderful device as I'm not having to constantly power cycle it like in the past. We do catch a neighboring facility's wifi here on our devices so I believe this can be causing interference and it would be best to switch up to a 5ghz router? Definitely will check out the app. Thanks allot. I apologize for the ignorance in this area.
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Your too kind Reiere Thank you,
I'm using a Media Link MWN-WAPR150N. I see, it doesn't support 5ghz which seems to be a total bummer. I could have sworn that I purchased a dual band model. It's a wonderful device as I'm not having to constantly power cycle it like in the past. We do catch a neighboring facility's wifi here on our devices so I believe this can be causing interference and it would be best to switch up to a 5ghz router? Definitely will check out the app. Thanks allot. I apologize for the ignorance in this area.
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You're almost always going to get some degree of interference from other devices. How bad it is depends on the power of your neighbors' rig and its proximity. Other items, such as microwaves can cause temporary disruptions in wireless power, but it's much more unusual these days than it was in the past.
Given the way other devices in your network seem to be functioning alright, it might be a device-side issue. However, before that I would look into a Wi-Fi analyzing app like I posted earlier and try setting your network to a particular channel. If you pick one clear of your neighbors' wireless network, then if it's set to auto (which it probably is), it should adjust around yours and grant you a clear channel. (two networks on auto can occasionally snarl with one another, and the one with more power is going to win. Since yours is a single-band N home router, there's a good chance you'd lose with the routers out these days).
So I just picked up the S5 2 days ago and noticed a problem with it as soon as I connected to WiFi at home. I have the S3 and Note Pro 12.2 tablet and they run perfectly on my WiFi at home.
The first thing I noticed was in the Google Play store. When I start typing in the search bar, usually a drop down with suggestions would appear once you type in a few letters. It doesn't do that when connected to WiFi. When I click search, the apps will show but the thumbnail pics won't load right away like they should. After clicking install the bar will say downloading but won't actually start and show any progress for about 10-20 seconds. Turn off WiFI and try through 4GLTE and it works perfectly. Suggestions show up as I search, pics load right away and downloading starts immediately when clicking install.
On WiFi - the Facebook app keeps giving an error that it can't log in. After several tries it will log in and the newsfeed will show but no pics will load, not even the little thumbnail profile pics of people who posted. I go into app settings and clear the Facebook data so nothing is cached, turn WiFi off and open the app while on 4GLTE. The app opens right away and all pics load as they should.
On WiFi - open the Youtube app and it takes about a minute for the main screen to load. Then when it finally does load and show the list of videos, the pics of the video screenshots don't load for a minute or two. Same with Google Play, when I search for a video, no drop down menu appears when I start typing. After typing, click search and the videos will appear right away but no pics load again for a while. Again, clear the data/cache in app settings, turn off WiFi and open YouTube in 4G and it loads everything right away.
Browsing with Chrome however works perfectly on WiFi. Pages and pics load right. This doesn't make any sense to me.
I took the phone back to the Verizon store and explained what was happening. Facebook and YouTube are my test apps. I cleared the data/cache on both apps, connected to Verizon's WiFi and of course everything worked as it should which leads me to believe the S5 does not like my router which is a D-Link DIR-615. I no expert when it comes to routers. I changed a few settings but nothing worked.
I posted a screenshot of my wireless settings. Right now it's on mixed n,g,b and I tried n only and g only. I disabled auto channel scan and tried each channel individually. Nothing.
My next course of action is to buy a new router which I shouldn't have to do. If anyone can help me avoid doing that it would be much appreciated.
Thanks
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connected to Verizon's WiFi and of course everything worked
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I agree with your tentative conclusion. There is scant evidence that it is the phone. And your phone works fine on a different wifi. Most of your app quirks simply sound like expected behaviour if your dlink is slow to establish a connection. It's far more likely that it is the router doing something odd or not coping well with local channel interferrence.
Moreover dlink routers are famous for having quirks not normally seen on other name brand routers. Try defaulting your router configuration, setting it to a low performance mode if your dlink has that, force it to use a different channel and upgrade the router firmware. Even better, buy a real router.
This isn't a router forum though. You'd be farther ahead posting in a router forum than here.
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I agree with your tentative conclusion. There is scant evidence that it is the phone. And your phone works fine on a different wifi. Most of your app quirks simply sound like expected behaviour if your dlink is slow to establish a connection. It's far more likely that it is the router doing something odd or not coping well with local channel interferrence.
Moreover dlink routers are famous for having quirks not normally seen on other name brand routers. Try defaulting your router configuration, setting it to a low performance mode if your dlink has that, force it to use a different channel and upgrade the router firmware. Even better, buy a real router.
This isn't a router forum though. You'd be farther ahead posting in a router forum than here.
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I didn't know D-Links were garbage. I'm not going to bother troubleshooting in a router forum. I think you're right and I just need a to buy a new one. What brands are considered "real routers"? I'll head over to Micro Center today. I see on their web site that Asus, NetGear and LinkSys have gotten decent reviews. Anyone with the S5 use any of those brands?
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I didn't know D-Links were garbage. I'm not going to bother troubleshooting in a router forum. I think you're right and I just need a to buy a new one. What brands are considered "real routers"? I'll head over to Micro Center today. I see on their web site that Asus, NetGear and LinkSys have gotten decent reviews. Anyone with the S5 use any of those brands?
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Any of those three are fine. I'm not a huge fan of Netgear but they're okay. Linksys is good. The higher end Asus routers are some of the best consumer routers period. I'll vouch for the rt-n66u and rt-n16. The last time I looked about $130 and $75 respectively. If you want to spend less, buy whatever brand name, gigabit class router is on sale.
An advantage with the Asus models is that you have the option of flashing more powerful, third party firmware like tomato to add all the features you'd find on a $600 enterprise router.
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Any of those three are fine. I'm not a huge fan of Netgear but they're okay. Linksys is good. The higher end Asus routers are some of the best consumer routers period. I'll vouch for the rt-n66u and rt-n16. The last time I looked about $130 and $75 respectively. If you want to spend less, buy whatever brand name, gigabit class router is on sale.
An advantage with the Asus models is that you have the option of flashing more powerful, third party firmware like tomato to add all the features you'd find on a $600 enterprise router.
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I went out and got the rt-n66u and problem solved. Thanks for the recommendation.
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I went out and got the rt-n66u and problem solved. Thanks for the recommendation.
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Great to hear.