Hey everyone. I've been looking around, and I was just wondering if anyone knew of an extended battery cover/case combo which does not compromise the S5s water resistant capabilities. Thanks!
neoslink1 said:
Hey everyone. I've been looking around, and I was just wondering if anyone knew of an extended battery cover/case combo which does not compromise the S5s water resistant capabilities. Thanks!
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see Android central website
they have a great collection.
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Only the stock extended battery door will offer you any meaningful assurance that it is really water resistant. Third party battery doors may have the gasket but how can you discern their quality control i.e. whether the gasket really works as promised? You can't unless it's a major brand name vendor whom you trust when they say that their products meet specs.Or if some trustworthy third party undertakes to test non-OEM parts.
If you want to gamble, Ebay, et al have lots of Chinese battery doors which may or may not actually seal against water.
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all Chinese Extended battery are IP 00 ;(
There's a genuine Samsung 3500mah one that has an IP67 cover posted here.
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Well it looks like the back battery cover is the first to get scuffed even if you take care of the phone otherwise.
Anyone know of a good place to buy a cheap OEM quality battery cover? I have the Sprint Touch Pro but it would be cool to get a different cover if possible.
This is a link to a site that sells extended batteries with covers to accept the larger batteries. You can get a bigger battery and a new cover...David.
http://www.fuzedepot.com/fuze-batteries.htm
While I really do like my Samsung Focus, I couldn't care less for the plastic battery cover.
Does anyone out there know somewhere to have custom battery covers made out of aluminum or some other metal? Maybe if enough of us are interested we could get someone with metal working skills to fab one.
that would be nice. i worry a little about the back of my focus to get all beaten up and scratched. but there is a case out now that covers the entire phone i'm not sure how well it stands up to impact but it's better than nothing at all.http://www.seidioonline.com/category-s/4841.htm
Is this normal after having taken time??? the phone is not 15 days
Your fault. You bent the battery cover too much when taking it off.
henrybravo said:
Your fault. You bent the battery cover too much when taking it off.
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but the materials were not polycarbonate???
henrybravo said:
Your fault. You bent the battery cover too much when taking it off.
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A lot of people have the same or hardest problem on this thread http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=405612&page=10
Bent a cover to much is the easy way to break but, a lot people?
Many people have complained that the cap is broken or scratched with a glance.
Samsung has answered that them have broken it by misuse, but I do not think many people misused the cover.
Manufacturing defect? I think so...
henrybravo said:
Your fault. You bent the battery cover too much when taking it off.
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Have left many defective and no fault of the user.
The complaint we have begun in Spain, but this affects thousands of users.
Whoever wants to look the other way is your problem, the SIII to cost € 600 and is not acceptable by any means.
There are several places where this news
http://www.xatakandroid.com/moviles...o-tambien-tiene-problemas-con-su-tapa-trasera
http://andro4all.com/2012/07/problemas-tapa-blanca-samsung-galaxy-s-iii
well if you sell millions of these phones i guess there are bound to be some to have their top bent like that... personally mine's still pristine, been using my phone for a month now
klander said:
Have left many defective and no fault of the user.
The complaint we have begun in Spain, but this affects thousands of users.
Whoever wants to look the other way is your problem, the SIII to cost € 600 and is not acceptable by any means.
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OK I understand now. I've taken mine off 3 or 4 times with no issues, so I just figured the OP had been a little rough on the battery cover.
Edit: also, I didn't realize the OP was just copying pics from a web site.
Gembol said:
Many people have complained that the cap is broken or scratched with a glance.
Samsung has answered that them have broken it by misuse, but I do not think many people misused the cover.
Manufacturing defect? I think so...
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Manufacturing defect and bad materials
anarki919 said:
Manufacturing defect and bad materials
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I disagree.
The material used is allowing some flexibility but it's very thin to allow for little weight and thickness of the overall phone. Even if it was made by carbon OF titanium and it was that thin it could brake. Its not unbrakeable. I have taken the cover off and on lots of times and I always take it slow and careful. What's the point of overreacting? You are holding 600€ of delicate electronic equipment covered in thin covers. You think just because you paid that amount it should also be unbrakeable?
I have had my share of confrontation with htc for their one S but that is because they claimed its so durable that doesn't need a case, though it chipped in a week without any misuse. But this claim to samsung's rear cover I think its pushing it.
Just get a new rear case and be careful how you handle the phone. Its not a hand tool but delicate equipment.
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I still have no idea how people break the Samsung battery covers and the SGP Neo Hybrid frames. As shown in the YouTube videos, you can literally bend the crap out of them. People must be extremely rough with theirs.
did you guys ever see the video of the S2 back cover being bent in two and it was fine, looks like it does not apply to the S3
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Mine has lots of dinks in it all around the side I'm not happy at all of course somehow have applied pressure to course this but I'm aware that I handle my phone very carefully so I think the battery door is very very poor quality
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vasp3690 said:
I disagree.
The material used is allowing some flexibility but it's very thin to allow for little weight and thickness of the overall phone. Even if it was made by carbon OF titanium and it was that thin it could brake. Its not unbrakeable. I have taken the cover off and on lots of times and I always take it slow and careful. What's the point of overreacting? You are holding 600€ of delicate electronic equipment covered in thin covers. You think just because you paid that amount it should also be unbrakeable?
I have had my share of confrontation with htc for their one S but that is because they claimed its so durable that doesn't need a case, though it chipped in a week without any misuse. But this claim to samsung's rear cover I think its pushing it.
Just get a new rear case and be careful how you handle the phone. Its not a hand tool but delicate equipment.
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We all try to carefully S3, but we must recognize that the quality of the finishes are terrible.
Youtube videos are very nice and the lid bends easily, try to cover your S3 and comets that we ido this to you and if possible record, you'll take a big disappointment.
The S2 was a great phone, both in quality and performance, the S3 is very good interpretations but not the quality of their materials.
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I still have no idea how people break the Samsung battery covers and the SGP Neo Hybrid frames. As shown in the YouTube videos, you can literally bend the crap out of them. People must be extremely rough with theirs.
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this also??
My solution.
I took out my original battery cover and put this one in its place along with the bumper. Mine did not break, I just wanted a better looking cover some form of protection.
Sango2 said:
My solution.
I took out my original battery cover and put this one in its place along with the bumper.
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That is not the solution, the solution is to give the samsung.
I do not like to take my S3 as Robocop
klander said:
We all try to carefully S3, but we must recognize that the quality of the finishes are terrible.
Youtube videos are very nice and the lid bends easily, try to cover your S3 and comets that we ido this to you and if possible record, you'll take a big disappointment.
The S2 was a great phone, both in quality and performance, the S3 is very good interpretations but not the quality of their materials.
regards
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No, apparently not all are carefully with their phones. If you regard the you tube videos of presentstion of the phone as how much you CAN bend the cover, then you are wrong. The people testing the phones are there to sometimes show you the limits of the phone's capabilities or reach them, not to show how you can use it everyday.
The first time you hold the phone you understand that the rear cover is very thin and the clips are delicate. That should increase your attention on how you open and close the cover. Quality is fine ifyou ask me, as I consider quality the fact that the case doesn't squeek and the cover fits well the rest of the phone. I feel you have to go into a lot of effort to crack a clip.
Sorry, that's how I see it.
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klander said:
That is not the solution, the solution is to give the samsung.
I do not like to take my S3 as Robocop
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I know. That is a brushed aluminum battery cover.
Robocop, I like that ha ha, good name! Actually it was a friend who suggested me to go with that. My original choice was to get a case-mate tough case which I did with my Galaxy Nexus but then it appeared to make the phone too bulky even thou it did have good protection so I wanted to something slimmer without adding much bulkiness and have some form of protection.
I was once interested in the Galaxy S4 Active, but four important things have kept me away from it altogether:
I just got the S4 in April, so I'd need to sell it to buy a new Active (and there would be a price difference of course).
The S4A is only waterproof to 3ft or so (some reports of less than that). And for only 30min at that.
Probably most importantly: I hear there's no liquid coverage in the warranty still, even though it's designed to be submerged!
8MP camera? What gives? One of the biggest bragging rights of the S4 is the 13MP camera.
That being said, I want to waterproof my S4, so that I can completely submerge it. I mean, like bottom-of-the-14ft-pool submerge, while still taking pictures, even. I'd consider hacking the S4A camera app onto the S4 just for the Aqua mode it has (and maybe try to hack in the 13MP capability too?).
Key thing, though: I don't normally use a case on my phone. I like the slimness of my naked phone.
So, I've seen different nano-coatings (liquipel for example - or even the NeverWet spray). Most of them coat the outside of the phone, and don't offer submersion as an option. They're designed for "accidental spills only". Here's what I want from a nano-coating:
Submersible to say, 15ft. Maybe 10ft would be acceptable.
No time limit.
I'm willing to completely disassemble my phone to coat the motherboard, inside and out, if needed.
Some form of guarantee against water damage would be nice. I swear that I saw one company that offered this, but I can't seem to find it now.
I'm curious how this stuff would work with heat dissipation on the motherboard components. Also, how well would the contacts work after? Examples would be the connections to the motherboard (for the screen, or daughterboard, or cameras...), or even the battery connection? Does nanocoating interfere with these?
Anywho, the point of this thread is to ask the S4 community about different brands of nano-coating/water-proofing options. It might be impossible to get exactly what I want, but I'd be curious to see how close I could get.
Thanks for your time.
I highly doubt you will find a nano coating that can meet your needs.
Regarding the neverwet spray, I recently read a review on it and it only lasted roughly 30 minutes in water before the coating began to deteriorate plus it makes the device sticky.
Your best bet would probably be a case even though you specifically asked for a nano coating. LifeProof juat recently released an S3 case and its safe too assume an S4 case is in the works aswell.
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I highly doubt you will find a nano coating that can meet your needs.
Regarding the neverwet spray, I recently read a review on it and it only lasted roughly 30 minutes in water before the coating began to deteriorate plus it makes the device sticky.
Your best bet would probably be a case even though you specifically asked for a nano coating. LifeProof juat recently released an S3 case and its safe too assume an S4 case is in the works aswell.
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Yeah, that's what I'm gathering. Thank you for the feedback. I did find that it was Liquipel that offers the guarantee against water damage, but only with accidental exposure only (explicitly prohibits intentional submersion). I happen to be travelling over in the L.A. area soon (near their HQ), so I've asked them two questions this weekend, without response:
If I were to bring in my device to have it treated, would they allow me to physically disassemble the device and let them place the individual components into the chamber?
If I were to invest in a nice waterproof case, and for some reason the case failed to protect the device, would the Liquipel guarantee protect the device at this point?
I'm thinking that a lot of these nano-coatings will give-out after 30 minutes of continuous water exposure. That's why I'm thinking of a really good waterproof case for intentional diving with the phone, and then the liquipel for all the accidental stuff (as intended). It'd be nice to go to a theme park and ride the water-rides without risking anything.
Eventually when LifeProof releases their Galaxy S4 case which shouldn't be that bulky in comparison too other waterproof cases you could buy the case and apply the Liquipel coating. This way you have a 2 step barrier for any water damage, if the case gives way too water, the liquipel should protect it and any damage should be covered by their warranty.
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Eventually when LifeProof releases their Galaxy S4 case which shouldn't be that bulky in comparison too other waterproof cases you could buy the case and apply the Liquipel coating. This way you have a 2 step barrier for any water damage, if the case gives way too water, the liquipel should protect it and any damage should be covered by their warranty.
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I called Liquipel today, because apparently the monkeys behind their keyboards don't respond to emails.
- They will allow me to disassemble the device, have it coated by them, and then I would have to re-assemble it myself. No problem.
- They recently had another customer with a LifeProof case file a claim. The LifeProof case leaked on his iPhone (dunno which model) without the customer knowing, and the water sat for a long time. The corrosion/etc. that resulted was too great, and Liquipel would not cover the device. The customer had to buy a new device, which Liquipel subsequently treated the new device for free.
But yeah, if LifeProof created a case for S3, there's little doubt they would not create one for the S4. The only fallback would be if the S3 case didn't sell well - at which point they might re-think creating a case for the S4.
Does anyone have any tips on preserving the water resistance of the S5 after opening it? I need to replace the front camera in mine as it died after a water intrusion incident while testing a wireless charging card, and that requires removing the screen from the phone.
I ordered precut replacement adhesive to reattach the screen, but can't find any supplier that guarantees it's the OEM type that Samsung uses.
Too many variables to say for sure its a suck it and see scenario
If you meant preserve your warranty, good luck. The IP57 rating is water resistance, not water proof. So far and given that the S5 is a new model, Samsung has been pretty lenient about water intrusion claims under warranty. But unless you can demonstrate a gross manufacturing defect.. it's a best effort. Water proof and intrusion aren't guaranteed.
As time goes by and the number of water damage claims rises Samsung will likely tighten up their policy about water damage claims under warranty. And you can bet that the very first exclusion will be no coverage if the case has been disassembled by a non-Samsung employee no matter how good of a job they may have done.
As to preserving the effectiveness of the seal, it's actually not that hard provided that you have a competent technician doing the work. The materials properly applied are more than adequate to the task. So it's just a matter of the die cut framing adhesive and OCA being installed square and flat on a clean surface, with no gaps whatever. A conscientious repairman that takes pride in his work and double checks is not likely to sabotage the seal.
As to materials, as long as they are made by a reputable, name brand concern e.g. 3M, Dupont, et al and not some shady Chinese knockoff manufacturer you'll be fine. Fine in respect to the seal working. Again I'm sure that using anything other than OEM parts and authorized technicians would invalidate the warranty coverage.
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No warranty to speak of, as it was a used phone and I've already tripped knox. I will be doing the work myself, and have plenty of experience repairing and even soldering in phones.
My only worry is the materials, I can't find any reputable manufacturer of the seal, only ebay sellers and have no idea about the quality.
HDR said:
No warranty to speak of, as it was a used phone and I've already tripped knox. I will be doing the work myself, and have plenty of experience repairing and even soldering in phones.
My only worry is the materials, I can't find any reputable manufacturer of the seal, only ebay sellers and have no idea about the quality.
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I got adhesive parts from 'etradesupply'. I messed up the first time around , but at the next attempt it was fine. Use a stencil or tool of sorts to line up the adhesive seal. They claim 'OEM' and the quality to me seemed the same as stock. Would advise you to order at least in pairs.