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Will Supercurio provide voodoo sound for the N4

Anyone heard if Supercurio will be releasing his amazing voodoo sound for the N4?
He usually likes Wolfson chipsets....
This would be a major buying decision for me as i use my phone for much of my music listening with my etymotic ear phones, although the 16gb max memory is a concern (more like 12 available after OS/apps).

Doubt it. It's not a matter of he likes Wolfson chips or not. The US version of the GS3 most likely will never see Voodoo Sound because of the Qualcomm DAC.
Even with my i9300, I'm likely not to see Voodoo Sound support in the near future. Dev support is chugging along because he has other projects he's working on.
But hey, I might be wrong.

desynch- said:
Doubt it. It's not a matter of he likes Wolfson chips or not. The US version of the GS3 most likely will never see Voodoo Sound because of the Qualcomm DAC.
Even with my i9300, I'm likely not to see Voodoo Sound support in the near future. Dev support is chugging along because he has other projects he's working on.
But hey, I might be wrong.
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Thanks.
I guess were can always use timduru's KAT sound enhancer app.

Exynos vs Snapdragon - latest thoughts?

Hi guys looks like I'll be going for the Note 4 as I defect from Apple. What's confusing me however are the the options 910C or 910F i.e.e Exynos or Snapdragon. I'm in the UK on O2.
I've done LOTS of google searching on various forums and reviews, and read most forum posts in English as well as other languages translated and if there's one thing I've learnt is that there doesn't seem to be a consensus. I've learnt some swear that C (exynos) is better, others say F (snapdragon). I've heard it suggested that one of them is better for sound quality (can't remember which). I've read that C is better in benchmarks but not in the real world (and I've read the opposite!). I've read that F is better for games due to the better GPU but C better for multitasking. I've heard that now C is better as lollipop uses 64bit, but I've read people say that's not true. I've also read that F is better for custom ROMs (but again I've also read the opposite!) Basically I've heard opposing views for everything and am putting it down to (as ever with internet searches) older posts perhaps before lollipop and people not being able to compare.
So today, 22nd April 2015, when more people have been using these and lollipop is now mainstream can anyone shed light on the latest opinion?
I'm paritcularly interested in:
General speed
Support for custom ROMs etc
Any opinions appreciated!!! I know you guys are mainly developers (and I apologise if I'm wasting your time - I've read some threads on here already on 910c v 910f) but you're the best as you understand the benefits of the extra cores more than anyone else and are more likely to have tried both!
Thanks in advance guys

I previously owned the F and I saw a little lag when scrolling. It also overheated and stopped charging in my car when I used it for navigation. I am not sure if it was a faulty unit but my N version has no lag and very cool even when I run 2 navigation apps at the same time in split view.
I'll let the others answer your question.

@applehater00
Snapdragon have more support for custom roms, a bit faster then exynos, overheating a bit(depends on which chipset and your usage)
Exynos are a bit cheaper, a bit less perfomance, more battery friendly, no overheating at all

I had the n910c exynos. Experienced minor lag only when using the app switcher / previous apps button. Was a lot slower to open apps than the nexus 6 I sold it for. Didn't like the poor signal strength, which is ultimately why I sold the phone, however, I can't say whether any of that was related to the exynos chip. Lack of choice in custom ROMs bothered me slightly, however, with the wanam lite ROM, I didn't really need any other.... Even on my nexus 6 I keep it stock and just change the kernel.
Nexus 6 has much stronger signal strength and is by far my favourite phone I've ever owned. Note 4 has put the nail in the coffin for Samsung for me until they can ditch touchwiz and leave android the f%&£ alone.
No overheating issues with the exynos note at all.
Nexus 6 has the same snapdragon chip as the snapdragon note 4, and I'd choose this phone every time over the note 4, however, if I did go back to a note 4, it would still be the exynos version

Thanks guys for the replies but this illustrates the problem
One of you suggests snapdragon may be relatively laggy, one of you suggests that actually exynos is slower and one of you suggests that although in your experience and exynos chipped device was slower than a snapdragon chipped device you used, you'd still go exynos.
Really appreciate all replies so far thanks! Good to know it's still as muddy as my reading suggested!

It all boils down to whether you want to install custom AOSP roms or not.
If you like Samsung software then get either of them, the performance differences are negligible either way. You have a detailed benchmark at phonearena, but all they show is that Exynos is a bit faster cpu, while Snapdragon is a faster GPU.
On the other hand, if you like Android as Google designed it and want to use AOSP or CM, the Snapdragon version is currently your only choice. Exynos has CM development, but they have a hard time of getting the radio working.

Cheers I think you've probably hit the nail on the head.
I don't know anything about romming as I've only ever been an iOS man. I jailbreaked a lot there but jailbreaking is different I imagine. Jailbreaking is something I did partly for 'free' apps initially (but I soon realised apps aren't very expensive anyway and buy them anyway) but mainly because iOS is extremely limited and basically junk unless you free it up. I'm tired of havign to JB iphones all the time just to bring them up to Android's standard.
So with Android why would I want to ROM? Wouldn't I lose all the S-pen and other features?
Ok, I realise now this is veering off the original topic somewhat so feel free to flame me for hijacking my own thread and deviating it, but it is relevant, because it seems that if I want to do this then I'll go with the snapdragon, otherwise I'll go Exynos.
As a techy type guy who loves control I suspect I'd love to rom it (or whatever) but not quite so sure about it yet....

applehater00 said:
Thanks guys for the replies but this illustrates the problem
One of you suggests snapdragon may be relatively laggy, one of you suggests that actually exynos is slower and one of you suggests that although in your experience and exynos chipped device was slower than a snapdragon chipped device you used, you'd still go exynos.
Really appreciate all replies so far thanks! Good to know it's still as muddy as my reading suggested!
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You can thank Samsung for much of the lag, like the Recents Button.I can only recommend our SimplRom collection for the C and the F, we managed to increase the speed and new builds with tons of enhancements are coming very soon too. Both chips are similarly capable and it really comes down to custom rom support in my personal opinion. Which is better for Snap, no doubt. I'm developing SimplKernel for the C and F at the moment and there is just more there for Snapdragon than for Exy. Its easy and fun making stuff for F and a huge pain with weird stuff everywhere with C.
I can only recommend you the F, both for installing Custom stuff and also if you should ever want to develop for it. Kernel-wise at least

Audio on SD S8 vs phones with root and viper audio.

So here is my dilemma, I have been able to root every devices I have hair I would not purchase the devices.
Now i have a HTC10, the audio through Bluetooth is not suffice without a mod, viper or otherwise.
So if i purchase a S8 through tmobile I need to figure root won't happen as a worse case scenario. Is the S8 audio good enough for a audio enthusiast to use the device and not have root.
By good enough i mean loud enough, decent bass, and at least avg clarity. Also money is tight enough that buying the international version isn't a possibility, also i need volte and wifi calling b/c of my location.
Appreciate feedback ASAP.

razrlover said:
So here is my dilemma, I have been able to root every devices I have hair I would not purchase the devices.
Now i have a HTC10, the audio through Bluetooth is not suffice without a mod, viper or otherwise.
So if i purchase a S8 through tmobile I need to figure root won't happen as a worse case scenario. Is the S8 audio good enough for a audio enthusiast to use the device and not have root.
By good enough i mean loud enough, decent bass, and at least avg clarity. Also money is tight enough that buying the international version isn't a possibility, also i need volte and wifi calling b/c of my location.
Appreciate feedback ASAP.
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I have used viper on all my phones over the last few years since my galaxy s4.
I have had my s8 for around a month now and don't feel the need for viper. I wouldn't say s8 audio is the best but it's pretty damn good. Also depends on the headphones you use but even with the AKG headphones that come with it it's still pretty decent. It has decent bass and clarity.
It's personal taste I guess :good: but I'm happy as it is

callumbr1 said:
I have used viper on all my phones over the last few years since my galaxy s4.
I have had my s8 for around a month now and don't feel the need for viper. I wouldn't say s8 audio is the best but it's pretty damn good. Also depends on the headphones you use but even with the AKG headphones that come with it it's still pretty decent. It has decent bass and clarity.
It's personal taste I guess :good: but I'm happy as it is
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Appreciate the feedback. This is definitely what i needed to hear.
Please anyone can comment still please do!!

I have a rooted S8. Without viper sound was good, but bass was too low for me (at least on stock AKG headphones). I prefer electronic music like deep house, edm, drum and bass etc so strong bass is a must for me.
With viper enabled the difference for me is huge, sound is much more alive and dynamic. But if you dont really need strong bass stock clarity is good enough I think, the most difference with viper for me is bass.
EDIT:
Just tried increasing Viper clarity and listen to some rock songs. Well the difference is big compared to stock. Previously Ive had viper clarity set almost to 0.

Exynos s8 here, audio through 3.5mm jack is good however through bluetooth its abit mute for my taste.
I would say bass is more pronounced than my s7, also the sound is much clearer.however my problem lies with not much high volume. The stock rom is really great when you disable stock samsung apps, that i dnt wana root to avoid the headaches that comes with that ( no recieving ota updates ).
Some ppl here are advising to disable sound alive app and replace with 3rd party ones and claims higher volume limits but again havent had the time to mess with that.
Verdict: exynos s8 sounds good on 3.5mm jack with good bass and just abt enough max volume. however on bluetooth they lack much volume IMO.

Appreciate all the feed back so far!!

You're going to miss viper, period. Get your Tmobile upgrade or whatever and sell it. Use that money to buy the international version.
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RuggedHunter said:
You're going to miss viper, period. Get your Tmobile upgrade or whatever and sell it. Use that money to buy the international version.
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Then lose advance calling volte or wifi calling? That's what kills that possiblity for me, i need US radio LTE bands i believe for volte.
Appreciate the feed back as well

snapdragon 820

hey guys since my s6e+ died im looking for a new phone, and saw this axion 7, but my problem is snapdragon 820, it wa the processor that overheat right ?
also i dont see any custom roms either and no root ?

Wesley_NL said:
hey guys since my s6e+ died im looking for a new phone, and saw this axion 7, but my problem is snapdragon 820, it wa the processor that overheat right ?
also i dont see any custom roms either and no root ?
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Tyr to look a little more and all your questions will be answered. There are a lot of custom rom to choose from. Magisk works flawlessly and no overheats of cpu that I know about.

Smedslund said:
Tyr to look a little more and all your questions will be answered. There are a lot of custom rom to choose from. Magisk works flawlessly and no overheats of cpu that I know about.
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there where alot problems that 820 overheat , from what i remember, so i dont know thats why i asked,
do this phone have dobly atmos and viper4android ? its something i like to have, magisk root and sn pass ?
is rooting this pgone easy or difficultcompare to samsung methode ?

Snapdragon 820 did not have problems. You are talking about snapdragon 810!. The phone is a beast, and you won't regret it if you buy it. Dolby sound, great cammera great battery life, and custom roms. For unlocking and rooting you have similar tool like for nexuses, caled axon7tool, which is preaty much oneclick tool.

Wesley_NL said:
there where alot problems that 820 overheat , from what i remember, so i dont know thats why i asked,
do this phone have dobly atmos and viper4android ? its something i like to have, magisk root and sn pass ?
is rooting this pgone easy or difficultcompare to samsung methode ?
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The SD820 is the one on the S7E, aside from the Exynos ofc. No overheat at all on normal usage. A couple of people reported CPU throttle and overheat when using Daydream for a long time, but but you basically have your phone enclosed there, and we don't know if their CPUs were binned worse.
The phone comes with Dolby Atmos preinstalled (it even has Dolby Atmos etched in the back lol) and you can install V4A on stock and LOS-based. The stock ROM has a quick-settings tile to toggle atmos on and off. But keep in mind that sound varies a lot between the stock ROM (better) and LOS, because the phone has a high-end DAC and the crappy Snapdragon one. The stock ROM has the high-end DAC drivers while the LOS-based ROMs use the good DAC but half-assedly (semi-generic drivers)
I wanna ask, How did you even search for stuff? If you really did? There are like 10 guides for rooting and at least 10 LOS-based ROMs and a couple of stock-based ones
If you come from a Samsung this might not be the phone for you. It costs $330 on the US, in which case it is totally worth it, but aside from the absolutely killer display and overall performance (on normal usage you can't distinguish from the OP3T, and it is MUCH better than the S8 after some usage) it has its caveats. The camera has very bad low light performance (but very good in lighted conditions, hell, it has a lot more definition than the S7E's), the vibrator is kinda crappy (noisy, but strong enough) and custom ROMs are just LOS variations that look just the same (except for MiFavor 5.0, which is the new software for the Chinese version). No Flyme or MIUI or other ports. But the stock ROM/MiFavor 5 are awesome really. If you don't like the look they have you simply slap a launcher on top of it.
Samsung phones have much better cameras and very good designs, but yeah, they cost 2-3 times more...
I think the phone has UFS 2.0. We ran a line of code when the P10 stuff came to light and all of us had the same results.
Rooting the axon 7 is pretty difficult if you do it manually, and you can brick it. But fixing it is very easy, you just need the stock USB-C cable and a 64-bit Win PC.
An user made a one-click-tool to unlock, root, and do some other stuff, so it's pretty nice.
The closest to Odin we have is MiFlash, and it's just as finicky. You can recover from the ugliest of bricks with it.
If you'll buy it, try to get an A2017U (US version) or an A2017G (Int'l version). The G is cheap on Germany but it costs U$S 400 everywhere else, and it has literally only 1 custom kernel made for it (mine is a G). The U has 4 or 5 kernels and some say that it has better sound (albeit the same DAC).
But try to avoid the A2017 (Chinese, Aliexpress), it has the same hardware but the recovery (and almost everything else for that matter) is in Chinese, and it just makes things harder.
Those are the only 3 models. Check out the radio bands. The G has a bunch, while the U is the only one with the special bands that US uses for 4G, and the Chinese has some additional bands for some places in Asia

Wesley_NL said:
there where alot problems that 820 overheat , from what i remember, so i dont know thats why i asked,
do this phone have dobly atmos and viper4android ? its something i like to have, magisk root and sn pass ?
is rooting this pgone easy or difficultcompare to samsung methode ?
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That was the 810 that had overheating issues

Wesley_NL said:
there where alot problems that 820 overheat , from what i remember, so i dont know thats why i asked,
do this phone have dobly atmos and viper4android ? its something i like to have, magisk root and sn pass ?
is rooting this pgone easy or difficultcompare to samsung methode ?
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To save you some trouble.
When stressed for extended periods of time 99% of phones will drop their frequency to compensate for the heat output, that's the end of story. (my S3 used to do that, my S4 and Z2 as well before the Axon)
The only phone I saw in an article that doesn't do that is (surprise surprise) iPhones since they run at a much lower frequency on their custom made SoC's, so they provide consistently high performance.
Overheating is another issue altogether, the 810 was overheating even under lighter loads, now that is a problem.
The 820 SoC doesn't have that issue.
With that being said you can grab yourself an Axon 7 and don't worry about anything really.

Most bare bones ROM with best battery life for US996

Guys at this point I'm only going to use my LG V20 US996 for V4A while traveling. I have a new flagship, so will probably never put a sim in my old phone again. I missed out on the heyday of rooting this phone, so just to catch me up, what is the most bare bones ROM with the best battery life that will support use of the quad dac and V4A? Truth be told this phone has better audio hardware than any of the new flagships, and supports cabled headsets, so I may as well keep it as a dedicated flac audio player.
Thank you!!!

What Android version were you after?
I use AO Rom - it's Android 8, almost stock.

I don't really care. Just any that uses low resources. It's only going to be a music player so UI isn't as important as battery life. I'll check out AO.
I looked at a rooted fiio m11, but they want 600 even for the used ones, so screw that. The v20 is almost as good. Better than my ears will hear.