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OK, heres the situation, I recently got an S4 phone here in Europe UNLOCKED.
I want to know how to install the Stock version of Android 4.3 on this phone (cureent version is 4.2.2).
* Do I have to ROOT the phone?
* Do I have to install or flash ROMs or install custom ROMs?
* My carrier is T-Mobile.
If its too too complicated or running the risk of "bricking" my phone to do this, then I would just pass and stick with the default Samsung's Android version.
Is there any detailed step-by-step guides to this?
One more VERY VERY important question. I also run Samsung KNOX for security. If I would have the Stock Google version of Android on this, will the Samsung KNOX feature be wiped out???
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/mobile/solution/security/samsung-knox#con02
Thanks in advance!
itsonlyme999 said:
OK, heres the situation, I recently got an S4 phone here in Europe UNLOCKED.
I want to know how to install the Stock version of Android 4.3 on this phone (cureent version is 4.2.2).
* Do I have to ROOT the phone?
* Do I have to install or flash ROMs or install custom ROMs?
* My carrier is T-Mobile.
If its too too complicated or running the risk of "bricking" my phone to do this, then I would just pass and stick with the default Samsung's Android version.
Is there any detailed step-by-step guides to this?
One more VERY VERY important question. I also run Samsung KNOX for security. If I would have the Stock Google version of Android on this, will the Samsung KNOX feature be wiped out???
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/mobile/solution/security/samsung-knox#con02
Thanks in advance!
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1. Yes, Root, download GooManager from playstore install a Custom Recovery.
2. Install the rom from the zip file via the custom recovery
3. Yes there are plenty of guides, check out youtube videos. Just search for install 4.3 Samsung S4....
4. Yes you risk bricking your device, there is always an element of RISK.
5. Samsung KNOX will not be there.
nookcoloruser said:
1. Yes, Root, download GooManager from playstore install a Custom Recovery.
2. Install the rom from the zip file via the custom recovery
3. Yes there are plenty of guides, check out youtube videos. Just search for install 4.3 Samsung S4....
4. Yes you risk bricking your device, there is always an element of RISK.
5. Samsung KNOX will not be there.
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Ok, forget it. My day to day work environment MUST require the use of the KNOX feature. It is a requirement and must have it.
But thanks anyway for the help.
There is no need to root. Just flash custom recovery via Odin and follow the next steps above.
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KNOX feature is Touchwiz framework... Since your workplace force you have KNOX enabled, you cannot flash 4.3 (there is no 4.3 TW ROM) nor keep root permission (KNOX). Id rather stick with stock if I were you.
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Radukk said:
KNOX feature is Touchwiz framework... Since your workplace force you have KNOX enabled, you cannot flash 4.3 (there is no 4.3 TW ROM) nor keep root permission (KNOX). Id rather stick with stock if I were you.
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Ahhhh, my fault. I think I mis giuded you all here.
Its OK if I still have the 4.2.2 version of Android. But, I would like steps on how to install the Google Stock Android version KEEPING version 4.2.2. It does not have to be 4.3 at this point.
If its very complicated, then I will buy the S4 Google Play edition in the future.
The play edition will still not have Knox
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I want to ask a question. Will samsung galaxy s4 GT-I9505 be able to update to 4.3 stock android (like google play edition) via OTA? I dont want to root the phone,and i am enough patient to wait until 4.3 stock is released for this model.
fiogos said:
I want to ask a question. Will samsung galaxy s4 GT-I9505 be able to update to 4.3 stock android (like google play edition) via OTA? I dont want to root the phone,and i am enough patient to wait until 4.3 stock is released for this model.
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No. Touchwiz version out next month. Google edition had touchwiz frame work also mind you so isn't truly stock. The two devices are completely different and the Google edition rom will not be available for this phone. Outside of custom rom that is.
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Hey guys, I've done a lot of searching in this forum and found a lot of conflicting answers, so decided to start a fresh thread. I've been on 4.2.2/MF3 for a while now running Safetrap. I'm looking to take the OTA from AT&T and upgrade to 4.3.
I havent seen any root methods for 4.3 yet, but the question is, can I upgrade to 4.3 and retain root if I am running the latest version of SuperSU Pro with survival mode enabled?
A custom recovery with the option for installing ROMs is not needed, especially since I havent been able to do that since I updated to MF3. All I need is to keep root under 4.3 and I'll be more than happy, thanks!
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Hey guys, I've done a lot of searching in this forum and found a lot of conflicting answers, so decided to start a fresh thread. I've been on 4.2.2/MF3 for a while now running Safetrap. I'm looking to take the OTA from AT&T and upgrade to 4.3.
I havent seen any root methods for 4.3 yet, but the question is, can I upgrade to 4.3 and retain root if I am running the latest version of SuperSU Pro with survival mode enabled?
A custom recovery with the option for installing ROMs is not needed, especially since I havent been able to do that since I updated to MF3. All I need is to keep root under 4.3 and I'll be more than happy, thanks!
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This is my exact question. I just need some concrete answer as to yes or no... but as you said way too many conflicting answers!
YES.
I used "Survival mode" and it worked for me.
ROOTED ATT MK2 using Tapatalk
Hi so there is a way to update stock to 4.3 and continue using safestrap to run 4.2.2 roms????I would doubt that with what Ive read so far.
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jball said:
YES.
I used "Survival mode" and it worked for me.
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I too can confirm this works using Survival Mode from SuperSU Pro (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu.pro&hl=en).
Now, that being said, being a very big noob myself (switching over from heavily tweaked jailbroken iPhone 5), I did this, all was well, I thought I had some issues with some apps and thought 'hmm... maybe I'll just downgrade to MF3 and see if the problem is fixed'. Yeah, attempting to do that with Odin has left me soft-bricked, but for all intents and purposes (that I can tell) it's actually hard-bricked 'cause Kies did nothing, Odin does nothing, if I understand things correctly the only thing that could possibly help is if we had the MD5's available to us for MK2, which, my searching is coming up empty. So, point is according to what I can tell, if you go MK2, there is NO going back to 4.2.2, so use caution.
So just an important safety tip there (unless someone wants to correct my noobness).
Yes. I can confirm that enabling "survival mode" in SuperSU and updating will keep your root; i did this on my pphone coming from MF3.
However, with that being said, i quickly unrooted from there because i had issues with MMS/messaging and phone calls not being recieved, and i did not want to reset my phone. If you run into similar issues as i am not the only one reporting those issues you can so a reset on your data (your root will not be affected, you will be rooted after the reset) or an unroot will work.
happy updating
kevinco1 said:
Hey guys, I've done a lot of searching in this forum and found a lot of conflicting answers, so decided to start a fresh thread. I've been on 4.2.2/MF3 for a while now running Safetrap. I'm looking to take the OTA from AT&T and upgrade to 4.3.
I havent seen any root methods for 4.3 yet, but the question is, can I upgrade to 4.3 and retain root if I am running the latest version of SuperSU Pro with survival mode enabled?
A custom recovery with the option for installing ROMs is not needed, especially since I havent been able to do that since I updated to MF3. All I need is to keep root under 4.3 and I'll be more than happy, thanks!
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First with Safestrap you CAN flash Roms. It is just limited to about 10 or so Roms that will work as they need to be 4.2.2 based.
Now with that said for those that ONLY want root on MK2 then someone in the Verizon thread has a WORKING ROOT available for MK2 4.3 firmware here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758 and it DOESN'T come with the maliscious code that Kango and VRoot does. This DOES NOT give you recovery but it does give root. So thank the OP in that thread for helping out the community. I did and I HOPE I will never need to use it!!!
Good luck and Happy Rooting...
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Hi , I run custom roms on my tablets at home , but ideally I would like to leave my Note 3 able to have official updates with no need to install myself via SD card etc , but will rooting it , but no new custom rom , still allow me to have latest releases direct from Samsung .
If the answer is yes , I assume , when a new update comes out , any bloatware I have disable will be re-enabled and I might have to go and uninstall all the rubbish I did not want again....
But if the answer is NO , would I need to install CWM to update to the latest version of Samsung releases ?
My phone is still under warranty and I kinda don't want to mess with it too much , my tablets are old and 2nd user , so no worries with those
Advice please.
You can still get the update notification, but you can not update.
However you can flash the latest firmware using Kies or Odin.
it depnds on how you root... towel root and de la vega expolit system whitout changing kernels recovery or whatever so you should be able to receive OTA update , but you will problably loose root once you update.
Ok, so i rooted my note 3 with Towelroot method but i also instaled samsung update and now that i read this i was scary about loosing root or activating knox. I just check and seems that my root it's ok.
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mesimple said:
Ok, so i rooted my note 3 with Towelroot method but i also instaled samsung update and now that i read this i was scary about loosing root or activating knox. I just check and seems that my root it's ok.
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You must do the process every time a new ota arrives to your phone
Towel root doesn't work on the Samsung gs5 g900a. Root is blocked on this phone from at&t.
Same thing is happening to me. I had it rooted until the phone updated itself and now I can't root it through TowelRoot anymore. This sucks.
I'm sure it won't be long before one of the clever guys around here has it figured out.
I was towel rooted before the update.
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Thats a known "problem"…
Towelroot used an old kernelbug for rooting, but since june/july Samsung use a newer kernel without this bug and towelroot cannot work anymore!
But following should work:
Update the Firmware and reboot! (Wait some time after reboot, to finishing the update on reboot!)
Then flash the old Kernel (ONLY the Kernel) and root with Towelroot. Ignore the Errors that comes from old (wrong) Kernel.
After rooting flash back the actual kernel…
… FINNISH
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Thats a known "problem"…
Towelroot used an old kernelbug for rooting, but since june/july Samsung use a newer kernel without this bug and towelroot cannot work anymore!
But following should work:
Update the Firmware and reboot! (Wait some time after reboot, to finishing the update on reboot!)
Then flash the old Kernel (ONLY the Kernel) and root with Towelroot. Ignore the Errors that comes from old (wrong) Kernel.
After rooting flash back the actual kernel…
… FINNISH
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That's ask interesting approach. Perhaps i will take a look today.
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Mine is rooted, no problems doing it.
I'm new to android.
Never done a kernel change.
I'm going to read about it.
What I do know is I was rooted with towel root, the then it installed software updates from att. At this point I was no longer rooted and towelroot now says it is incompatible with this phone.
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How-To thread here. Confirmed working.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/g900and3tong3keeprootota-zip-t2862299
Hi,
I am not a programmer / developer but just wanted some expert opinion on how to root and what are the advantages. I have now ended my warranty so please can someone let me know:-
1. How to root safely without messing up KNOX
2. Can I bring the device to the same state if something goes wrong while rooting
3. Is there any substitute for firmware updates
Thanks,
Subbu
Rooting trips knox. You can try Towelroot, probably won't work. Flashing recovery will allow you to flash superuser/obtain root, or just flash a new Rom that's pre rooted.
Any samsung device can be Odined back to stock if needed, just not knox.
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What version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1(2014) do you have? Towelroot won't work with the p600 or the p601. Also it is better to use Obin then a one click root. Read through this topic it explains the whole process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2490805
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Towel root works for P605 up to latest software update as in the link below. The trick is to downgrade the boot.img using odin to a lower firmware e.g. NF2, root with towel root and then upgrade boot.img back to current firmware version. It keeps Knox 0x0. Try and keep your Knox 0x0 status in case it becomes important to you. Flashing custom recovery and kernels will trip knox, and using other rooting methods is likely to trip it also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/general/p605xxucnj1-firmware-update-t2936219
Good luck.
Thanks for all your responses.
I am looking at orion's website and clear how to root now. Please can someone clarify these for me :-
1. We can root the note but need to remove KNOX (after rooting) as it will not work properly for rooted devices?
2. Is it possible to get the note to the current state if something goes wrong during rooting. If yes, how can we do this?
3. Is it possible to install latest firmwares either from dev community or official Samsung? If it's from the DEV community, then wil it be a simple task of updating firmwares like how we do for official Samsung or do we have to start the process of rooting / stock recovery etc. again?
subram said:
Thanks for all your responses.
I am looking at orion's website and clear how to root now. Please can someone clarify these for me :-
1. We can root the note but need to remove KNOX (after rooting) as it will not work properly for rooted devices?
2. Is it possible to get the note to the current state if something goes wrong during rooting. If yes, how can we do this?
3. Is it possible to install latest firmwares either from dev community or official Samsung? If it's from the DEV community, then wil it be a simple task of updating firmwares like how we do for official Samsung or do we have to start the process of rooting / stock recovery etc. again?
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1. You are correct KNOX will not work and will give annoying and intrusive notification about your tablet being modified. But that is a small price to pay. Your warranty will be invalid after rooting, also a gift from KNOX, and it cannot be reset back to valid.
2. Yes, it is possible to reflash stock through Obin by downloading the firmware from Sammobile.com, not sure if I have the web address right, and flashing it like you do CF-Autoroot and twrp.
3. You cannot take ota updates because it will see the custom recovery and say your system has been modified. Again you can flash official updates from Samsung by using obin and Sammobile or for faster updates use a custom ROM which is actually probably better, but it depends on what you use your tablet for. If you want I can link you to some custom Roms that are stock based or CM based.
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Many thanks Orion. I have SM-P600. Basically, I want to root because I want to remove the official software and other bloatware.
1. Clear
2. By reflashing the stock, you mean setting the note 10.1 2014 to it's original state but through the 'odin-flash method'? So, if I do this, then will I be back to normal (including KNOX) and be able to download firmware updates? How do I do it through
3. What is the difference between sammobile formware and custom ROM?
Two more questions
1. Is it possible to download android 4.4.4 / Android L and install it in my device now than waiting for Samsung to officially release it?
2. Will it be possible to root, remove the unwanted software and then unroot to come back to normal again?
subram said:
2. By reflashing the stock, you mean setting the note 10.1 2014 to it's original state but through the 'odin-flash method'? So, if I do this, then will I be back to normal (including KNOX) and be able to download firmware updates? How do I do it through
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Not quite. Reflashing the stock ROM via Odin will return your device's software configuration to the way it was out of the box. No custom recovery, no root, etc. However, nothing can reset the KNOX counter. Once tripped, it's tripped for good. Reflashing a stock ROM will not allow you to receive OTA updates, you will have to download updates (from SamMobile or another site) and flash via Odin, or use Kies to update. Updating the firmware on your device through either method will cause you to lose root and custom recovery, but you may be able to re-root and reflash custom recovery.
subram said:
3. What is the difference between sammobile formware and custom ROM?
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SamMobile only hosts Samsung official stock firmwares for devices.
And yes, you should be able to root, uninstall unwanted system apps, and then unroot. But again, you will be unable to accept OTA updates.
Understood about the fact that if I root, then I should forget about KNOX once and for all.
- Ok, how do I unroot? Is that straightforward.
- If sammobile releases a firmware update for SM-P600 (let's say android 4.4.4 for US), can I install that via KIES (without root) though I am in the UK?
- If I root, I can then install android L as soon as it is available in the DEV community?
subram said:
Understood about the fact that if I root, then I should forget about KNOX once and for all.
- Ok, how do I unroot? Is that straightforward.
- If sammobile releases a firmware update for SM-P600 (let's say android 4.4.4 for US), can I install that via KIES (without root) though I am in the UK?
- If I root, I can then install android L as soon as it is available in the DEV community?
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1. Yes I have never had to unroot any Samsung device but as far as I know it is just that simple.
2. As long as it is for the p600 then yes it is compatible you should be able to flash without root through Obin.
3. This is a developer to watch this is a CM based rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2938652.
This is a TouchWiz based ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2793898. They will be updated quicker then Samsung firmware. Here is a complete list of Roms available for our devices. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723420
Edit: Forgot another useful post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2878586
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siralsmooth said:
Rooting trips knox. You can try Towelroot, probably won't work. Flashing recovery will allow you to flash superuser/obtain root, or just flash a new Rom that's pre rooted.
Any samsung device can be Odined back to stock if needed, just not knox.
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Speaking of which, how does one go about restoring the P600 back to stock? I'm starting to miss some of the S Pen functionality.
Download the stock firmware and flash via Odin with the tablet in download mode. Backup anything important first.
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Chainfire includes an unroot in his SuperSU app, which means you can just root to remove stuff the use the unroot function and then you have stock. There also Roms available that are just debloated stock without root installed. You have to root first to install.
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So, if we root to remove stuff and unroot through SuperSU app, will KNOX mess up again? To be honest, this is all what I want to do.
Another question, if we root, how can we get android L - the same method as odin flash?
1. No knox won't come back if you use the unroot function it just removes root.
2. Yes, obin flash when Samsung release, or install a custom ROM which then you get Lollipop faster.
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I looked at the website for custom ROM. It says I need to have a 'custom recovery' installed and be rooted as well. What do you mean by custom recovery and what should I do to install it?
subram said:
I looked at the website for custom ROM. It says I need to have a 'custom recovery' installed and be rooted as well. What do you mean by custom recovery and what should I do to install it?
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You need to first flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2490805 through Obin. Then make sure you have root. Then from the play store download flashify. Once you have flashify open it grant it root access and it should say something about a custom recover chose twrp. Flashify will take you to twrp download 2.6.3 not 2.8.1. Then enjoy your custom ROM.
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Thanks Orion. Clear on the process but what is custom ROM and why would I need it?
subram said:
Thanks Orion. Clear on the process but what is custom ROM and why would I need it?
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You don't necessarily need a custom rom(can be called custom OS to) but they are updated faster then stock TouchWiz and they run twice as fast because they are slimmed down. Plus you have control of everything. Some people just want want a more pure android experience but with more customization. TouchWiz is a custom ROM of android because it has features pure android doesn't have a.k.a. multi-window and quick settings with KitKat.
Like I said you don't need a custom ROM but it is a lot more fun to play then rooted TouchWiz. I am linking two custom Roms one is TouchWiz based so it has all of Samsung's features. The other is CM which doesn't have any of the cool features of Samsungs TouchWiz. TouchWiz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2793898. CM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2936863. There are a ton of different options. My a back up with twrp save it to your SD card and enjoy being rooted.
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Thanks for answering my questions patiently Orion. Ok, so if I follow the steps mentioned in http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2793898, then
1. Will I have Samsung touchwiz ROM and also get all the features mentioned there including notePRO?
2. Will I have multi-window and s-pen features retained?
3. Is the above website free to download?
4. Is it possible to just get the notePRO features after rooting my SM-P600 instead of getting everything from the above website
5. It looks like there is a 1.7 GB file that I need to download in my local PC before I flash it with odin?
6. There is a mention in the above website that we need to be rooted and also have custom ROM installed so If I have to install hyperdrive as per the website, I need to have done both I guess or can I just root my note and directly flash the 1.7 GB with odin without having a custom recovery installed? Also, how is custom recovery different from root?