joined those not happy with vzw, especially since move to mass. I have s5 I want to use with att, but with additional concern I have yet to find answered in my research.
because vzw 4g lte phones are not carrier locked--so vzw says, I gather there should be little or no problem with an att sim in the vsw s5. research confirms many with no problem after the transfer. however, and this is the reason for the thread, what happens when no 4g lte signal from att?
please excuse my ignorance if common sense should reveal that answer, but I am so angry with vzw right now I can't see straight. the ignorance is the s5 capability regarding signal drop to non-4g lte with vzw purchased phone and att network.
why? I started service with att, another phone, to see how the signal is in this area, prior to the transition, and I rarely have lte and often with hspa, not hspa+.
not impressed with the cellular service just outside of boston yet both vzw and att claim strong coverage. go figure. anyway, I hope someone can help me understand what the s5 can do versus what the carriers have done to them. recommendations or whatever, please fire away.
thanks.
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maybe this will help if unclear: rarely do I have lte on the screen. sometimes I have 4g, not often. so, is it possible a 4g lte phone can drop to 3g? if so, does the cdma/gsm difference come back into play?
it would be nice to see from someone with vzw to att experience.
thanks.
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The lack of replies might be because your questions have been asked and answered many times. There are more than 20 existing threads on this subject that answer your questions. Why not read the wealth of information in those threads first? More than likely that would answer all of your questions. And if not, then your remaining questions would be better informed.
In short, a Verizon phone can be used on ATT but it will always be a poor fit that won't work well in many circumstances. You can find the particulars discussed at length in existing threads.
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The lack of replies might be because your questions have been asked and answered many times. There are more than 20 existing threads on this subject that answer your questions. Why not read the wealth of information in those threads first? More than likely that would answer all of your questions. And if not, then your remaining questions would be better informed.
In short, a Verizon phone can be used on ATT but it will always be a poor fit that won't work well in many circumstances. You can find the particulars discussed at length in existing threads.
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I know this is not the first effort at xda-dev as my subject indicates, but I have yet to find the particulars once a transferred phone is in a non-4g environment. did I miss it? if it is here, yes.
I get the sensitivity some have for repeat entries, but it is a forum for sharing information and that often evolves. It is not always practical or the information uptodate or even accurate or whatever to think it unreasonable to have another instance surface. okay, I could bump one and see where it goes; some will cry about the thread is old. doesn't it make sense to revisit just in case new information or whatever?
with that said, I have not read that is it a poor fit in Many circumstances..still looking. Thank you.
moderator, please close the thread; no longer attending.
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I realize this is a TMO forum but since the HD2 is a TMO phone, I'm hoping someone has already done this.
I've been with TMO since April and while I'm generally happy with lesser dropped calls than AT&T, TMO's 3G service is very sporadic and does not seem to be as prolific in its availability as AT&T's.
Has anyone successfully used an unlocked HD2 on AT&T?
I would appreciate any information and suggestions on this, especially which ROM(s) to use to de-brand it and any tips/tweaks that will allow the HD2 to fully function on AT&T, including Data and Carrier/Frequency settings.
I don't plan on using the AT&T 2GB plans, just their "Unlimited" package for "dumb phones". Tethering is definitely needed.
ANY help in this will be greatly appreciated. If you don't feel like posting, you can PM me with the details.
Thanks
im guessing you didnt read much before you posted. yes tons of people use the tmous on at&t, yes it works, no you wont get 3G.
samsamuel said:
im guessing you didnt read much before you posted. yes tons of people use the tmous on at&t, yes it works, no you wont get 3G.
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Actually I did, and after wading through a seemingly endless barrage of "chatty" mostly unfocused and unrelated posts, I decided to cut to the chase and post my own thread with the hope that someone with SUBSTANTIVE answers would respond.
You see, a common theme in most forums (this one included) is that direct and specific answers are seldom posted. Instead, there is the obvious posts from those that just like to post and see their post published for the world to see and appreciate.
Personally, I find posts like "I have that same problem..." or "why don't you like TMO..." or even "have you read the other posts..." adds very little to the discussion and only serves to inflate the thread to a multi-page diatribe that does little to serve or answer the original question.
I really don't care to hear about the mother-in-law that has the same issue, or the poor guy with a bricked phone, posted in the same thread as a specific and succinct request for assistance.
Please don't be offended but if you feel like flaming me on this then I respectfully request that you do so in a specific flaming thread and not this one. I would really appreciate responses from those willing and wanting to answer my question, sans lectures and unrelated tripe.
Thanks in advance for understanding.
heh, fair enough.
direct answer, yes, it will work once you network unlock it, no you won't get 3g or hsdpa, and no amount of radio or rom flashing will be able to enable 3g, its a hardware limitation.
hd2 att 3g
The only way to get 3g on this phone HD2 on the AT&T network is to buy the Australian version Telestra T9193, they go for between 500-700 on eBay.
Thanks for the straightforward answer Now that the question's been answered I would ask the mod to please close the thread to keep it small and easy for others to see the answer as posted above and from having to endure twenty pages of nonsense like in other threads. I would never have posted this thread had I found the above answer succinctly posted sans tripe in other threads.
Again, thanks for the simple and direct response.
Now I can go try and justify selling this TMO HD2 and fork out more $$$ for a Telstra unit.
Hello, i have flashed my htc with most of these roms and i like alot of them, my concern is that it shows up as H and not 3G , on one rom it says u may have additional fees for your set up. i have unlimited internet on my plan so does this really make a diffrence? another thing is there a setting to take the H of and leave it as 3G? thanks
what ever happened to the simple YES or NO answer ....you come to this website to look for it and everybody is a smart ass..not everybody is tech smart and just want simple answers.
For the record, I am a little offended by at least one of the above responses, and it was not even directed towards me.
To answer your question, No, you will not be charged more for 'H' (HSDPA) over 3G.
Yes, you can disable it, but you will not want to. H is a better connection than 3G and is preferable. You are fortunate to be in an area where it is availble.
Don't be afraid to ask questions in the future, as we ALL started out as newbies.
thank you very much supersport...
Have cleaned this thread. Please post on topic or not at all.
Also note the rules on interacting with others on here. At least one of the posters on the cleaned out posts was worth a ban.
Please let's just help the OP and keep this clean. Appreciate your cooperation.
WB
yeah bro just disable it in advance net work settings. mine also runs better disabled.
This is just an idea and may not be possible but Ive been following the thread on the new EURO firmware and was about to flash my Verizon tablet last night i did read thought all the posts but didn't see anything that stuck out enough for me to remember, about not flashing this firmware on a Verizon and T-mobile tab. Croak saved me a lot of time and frustration many props to him for the quick replay on my question. Now i did go back and looked at the thread and clubtech did edit a warning which may have been there last night i don't remember seeing it, thanks for that, but i looks like there are many more GSM models out there that CDMA. I believe i would be beneficial to everyone to split these tablets into there own sub categories it would help to also keep the posts and threads relevant to the particular hardware version. I guess this is kinda a petition to see if more of the XDA members agree
It's generally pretty safe to assume that any firmware, particularly if it includes a new radio/modem, will not be compatible with both types of device, it'll be one or the other, and as CDMA is pretty outdated technology-wise now, it's generally assumed to be GSM/WCDMA unless specified otherwise.
That said, the same issue exists with the HTC Hero and they have a separate sub-forum, although the CDMA version of that is significantly more common than the CDMA Tab. We'd probably end up diluting topics for a lot of common-to-both-devices subjects (apps/themes/maybe recovery etc)
This is a cross-post from the General section; figured I'd ask my community here too.
Hi, all.
I realised today that having a 5GB cap on my main internet connection is pretty low, since I either go over it or edge close to it every billing cycle. It really sucks when they throttle it; it's worse than EDGE in most cases, and totally impossible to use with work. Since I found out that they now have a plan with a 10GB data cap, I figured I'd jump on it.
Turns out that not only would doing this extend my contract two more years (don't want to do this), it would actually increase the amount I pay now since the rate plan on the 5GB data plan was increased to $49.99 from $39.99. That obviously sucks.
Worse, I head over to Verizon's page and they're offering the same plans at, practically, the same prices. On top of that, they have real 4G coverage (FiOS- or cable-ike speeds) whereas T-Mobile's HSPA+ signal is not great in my area (not much better than 3.0 Mbps DSL connection).
I'm extremely close to switching (don't mind paying cancellation fees; could probably get some of them back from selling the modem) , but want to hear other people's experiences first. Does anyone here have a data plan with them and, if so, are you satisfied?
I'm assuming you're talking about data stick prices, and not phone prices? Why is this in the DZ forum then?
Because some people on here might have those plans too.
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Because some people on here might have those plans too.
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You'll get better responses posting in general sections, not specific hardware questions. Especially in a section like this, where a large group of the users don't live in the USA.
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REMOVE pls wrong place
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REMOVE pls wrong place
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Geez, Not everyone has the time to browse all the portals to find all the postings !!! Forewarned is Forearmed, and multiple postings whether in the "right" place or not, affords more people to be informed so let's not get so dammed uppity and posting "remove" comments etc. If YOU don't like it, just ignore it.... someone else may be thankful of having read it, and if not, they'll ignore it, too...... just my 2 cents on seeing some "Gestapo" attitudes. Guess they have so much time they have to POLICE things, having nothing better to do. Chill out Dudes! LIVE ALOHA !!!! (if you can understand that)
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Geez, Not everyone has the time to browse all the portals to find all the postings !!!
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We're just trying to help you get your answers, you won't find them by posting to non-relevant topics.
For example: could someone here help me find some knitting patterns? I'm sure some Desire-Z users must also knit...
I can't help with your question though as I'm based in the UK, and I find all US plans seem to be very expensive.
Andre
Can this thread be closed/locked please? I made the switch and will be posting my findings in the proper subforum. Thanks!
It was very difficult to find a concrete 'yes' or 'no' answer on the various threads here (a lot of discussion of bands and such which may be insanely intimidating to a new user / member). So, from what I've discovered from use and forums, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that if you are use the 4G LTE network in America you will not be able to connect and use the enhanced speeds on the G900F model. Instead, you'll be stuck with 3G (if you're lucky) and 2G speeds.
Like I said, if anyone knows otherwise and if so can correct me in a very direct (and respectful) way so as to not intimidate new users (like my self) please do so. Especially since I'll be selling my G900F shortly. I truly do thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster that I kept my G900A version just in-case I found any problems with the international version.
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It was very difficult to find a concrete 'yes' or 'no' answer on the various threads here (a lot of discussion of bands and such which may be insanely intimidating to a new user / member). So, from what I've discovered from use and forums, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that if you are use the 4G LTE network in America you will not be able to connect and use the enhanced speeds on the G900F model. Instead, you'll be stuck with 3G (if you're lucky) and 2G speeds.
Like I said, if anyone knows otherwise and if so can correct me in a very direct (and respectful) way so as to not intimidate new users (like my self) please do so. Especially since I'll be selling my G900F shortly. I truly do thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster that I kept my G900A version just in-case I found any problems with the international version.
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You could have Googled this info within 10 minutes like here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2709458, instead you layed back to wait for others to answer your question This is not the XDA way mate!
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You could have Googled this info within 10 minutes like here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2709458, instead you layed back to wait for others to answer your question This is not the XDA way mate!
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Thank you gee2012 for feeling the need to be insulting instead of adding anything productive. Because I am a new user to the Android OS, mentioned that I scanned through the forums here and did not find a clear and concise answer to my very direct question, and found conflicting information through google searches as well as threads here I thought I could possibly help out other new users who may have the same question and feel a bit daunted by the sheer wealth of technical information here. I thought helping each other out, especially those brand new to the OS, was the XDA way. Not responding with a purely negative message to someone trying to be helpful.
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Thank you gee2012 for feeling the need to be insulting instead of adding anything productive. Because I am a new user to the Android OS, mentioned that I scanned through the forums here and did not find a clear and concise answer to my very direct question, and found conflicting information through google searches as well as threads here I thought I could possibly help out other new users who may have the same question and feel a bit daunted by the sheer wealth of technical information here. I thought helping each other out, especially those brand new to the OS, was the XDA way. Not responding with a purely negative message to someone trying to be helpful.
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I`am not insulting or dissing anyone mate but you only had to compare for instance the G900F supported LTE bands with the used ATT bands on Google and you`re question would have been answered.
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You could have Googled this info within 10 minutes like here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2709458, instead you layed back to wait for others to answer your question This is not the XDA way mate!
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I`am not insulting or dissing anyone mate but you only had to compare for instance the G900F supported LTE bands with the ATT bands and thats it on Google and you`re question would have been answered.
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No disrespect meant and I apologize for not being specific in my response to you. When I say conflicting information it was based on a google search for what I felt was a basic question, "Does the S5 G900F support the ATT 4G LTE network?" That query led to websites with conflicting information (a few said it did, a few said it didn't, and a few more said 'maybe'). When I came across more information via these forums and more google searching there was no clear and distinct answer that was readily found. What was found, like you referred to, was information on base bands. Because I was new not only to the Android OS but the complexities of phones outside of the walled garden that is iOS I investigated what a base band was. From here I continued my search into the ATT bands and compared them to the S5 G900F model to see if they were compatible. Once figuring out that they were not I had answered my own question. After realizing that there are others out there who either don't have the knowledge, access to, or time I thought I'd share my 'discovery' (and yes, I realize it was not really one) with others.
So yes, you were insulting when you said I "'layed [laid] back to wait for others to answer your question" as I didn't. You assumed from my simple and brief post that I had not taken the time to do any actual searching and was lazily waiting for someone to answer my question. It was an incorrect inference which led to a seemingly sarcastic response (and associated ) which while it won't dissuade me from posting or asking questions does not, IMO, represent the helpful community aspect of XDA.
With that said I see you are a Recognized Contributor, so thank you for the information you've contributed to others throughout XDA.
I am noting more than you are. Just trying to help others by reading and trying to figure out how things work.
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