It was very difficult to find a concrete 'yes' or 'no' answer on the various threads here (a lot of discussion of bands and such which may be insanely intimidating to a new user / member). So, from what I've discovered from use and forums, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that if you are use the 4G LTE network in America you will not be able to connect and use the enhanced speeds on the G900F model. Instead, you'll be stuck with 3G (if you're lucky) and 2G speeds.
Like I said, if anyone knows otherwise and if so can correct me in a very direct (and respectful) way so as to not intimidate new users (like my self) please do so. Especially since I'll be selling my G900F shortly. I truly do thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster that I kept my G900A version just in-case I found any problems with the international version.
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It was very difficult to find a concrete 'yes' or 'no' answer on the various threads here (a lot of discussion of bands and such which may be insanely intimidating to a new user / member). So, from what I've discovered from use and forums, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that if you are use the 4G LTE network in America you will not be able to connect and use the enhanced speeds on the G900F model. Instead, you'll be stuck with 3G (if you're lucky) and 2G speeds.
Like I said, if anyone knows otherwise and if so can correct me in a very direct (and respectful) way so as to not intimidate new users (like my self) please do so. Especially since I'll be selling my G900F shortly. I truly do thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster that I kept my G900A version just in-case I found any problems with the international version.
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You could have Googled this info within 10 minutes like here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2709458, instead you layed back to wait for others to answer your question This is not the XDA way mate!
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You could have Googled this info within 10 minutes like here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2709458, instead you layed back to wait for others to answer your question This is not the XDA way mate!
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Thank you gee2012 for feeling the need to be insulting instead of adding anything productive. Because I am a new user to the Android OS, mentioned that I scanned through the forums here and did not find a clear and concise answer to my very direct question, and found conflicting information through google searches as well as threads here I thought I could possibly help out other new users who may have the same question and feel a bit daunted by the sheer wealth of technical information here. I thought helping each other out, especially those brand new to the OS, was the XDA way. Not responding with a purely negative message to someone trying to be helpful.
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Thank you gee2012 for feeling the need to be insulting instead of adding anything productive. Because I am a new user to the Android OS, mentioned that I scanned through the forums here and did not find a clear and concise answer to my very direct question, and found conflicting information through google searches as well as threads here I thought I could possibly help out other new users who may have the same question and feel a bit daunted by the sheer wealth of technical information here. I thought helping each other out, especially those brand new to the OS, was the XDA way. Not responding with a purely negative message to someone trying to be helpful.
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I`am not insulting or dissing anyone mate but you only had to compare for instance the G900F supported LTE bands with the used ATT bands on Google and you`re question would have been answered.
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You could have Googled this info within 10 minutes like here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2709458, instead you layed back to wait for others to answer your question This is not the XDA way mate!
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I`am not insulting or dissing anyone mate but you only had to compare for instance the G900F supported LTE bands with the ATT bands and thats it on Google and you`re question would have been answered.
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No disrespect meant and I apologize for not being specific in my response to you. When I say conflicting information it was based on a google search for what I felt was a basic question, "Does the S5 G900F support the ATT 4G LTE network?" That query led to websites with conflicting information (a few said it did, a few said it didn't, and a few more said 'maybe'). When I came across more information via these forums and more google searching there was no clear and distinct answer that was readily found. What was found, like you referred to, was information on base bands. Because I was new not only to the Android OS but the complexities of phones outside of the walled garden that is iOS I investigated what a base band was. From here I continued my search into the ATT bands and compared them to the S5 G900F model to see if they were compatible. Once figuring out that they were not I had answered my own question. After realizing that there are others out there who either don't have the knowledge, access to, or time I thought I'd share my 'discovery' (and yes, I realize it was not really one) with others.
So yes, you were insulting when you said I "'layed [laid] back to wait for others to answer your question" as I didn't. You assumed from my simple and brief post that I had not taken the time to do any actual searching and was lazily waiting for someone to answer my question. It was an incorrect inference which led to a seemingly sarcastic response (and associated ) which while it won't dissuade me from posting or asking questions does not, IMO, represent the helpful community aspect of XDA.
With that said I see you are a Recognized Contributor, so thank you for the information you've contributed to others throughout XDA.
I am noting more than you are. Just trying to help others by reading and trying to figure out how things work.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G900F met Tapatalk
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have anyone tried this?
have you tried searching (as per forum RULES)?
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have you tried searching (as per forum RULES)?
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Obviously they didnt, and its their first post, perhaps we could be a bit nicer? you know, not scare everyone new away. This whole website has become very draconian in the last few years perhaps its users could at least try and maintain some politeness and common sense
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Obviously they didnt, and its their first post, perhaps we could be a bit nicer? you know, not scare everyone new away. This whole website has become very draconian in the last few years perhaps its users could at least try and maintain some politeness and common sense
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I don't know... if we are too nice to everyone, every noobie will post whatever they want without a second thought or searching... at least if they are worried about being flamed they may do a better job searching before posting. This forum seems to be attracting more and more noobies every day who post ridiculous things without searching first. This forum is suppose to be for developers and advanced users... at least that was what I though when I first joined and that's what attracted me to this site. I didn't post anything for years after joining because I didn't feel I had anything important to offer, and any information I needed I was able to find by searching and reading. I read these forums everyday. It seems, though, since I got a HD2 and started browsing the HD2 forums, there has seemed to be a flood of noobies and a lower quality of posts on average.
Sorry for the rant... it's just been getting irritating with all the noobie who just joined posting countless threads asking the same questions over and over because they can't spend 5 minutes to search and read.
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I don't know... if we are too nice to everyone, every noobie will post whatever they want without a second thought or searching... at least if they are worried about being flamed they may do a better job searching before posting. This forum seems to be attracting more and more noobies every day who post ridiculous things without searching first. This forum is suppose to be for developers and advanced users... at least that was what I though when I first joined and that's what attracted me to this site. I didn't post anything for years after joining because I didn't feel I had anything important to offer, and any information I needed I was able to find by searching and reading. I read these forums everyday. It seems, though, since I got a HD2 and started browsing the HD2 forums, there has seemed to be a flood of noobies and a lower quality of posts on average.
Sorry for the rant... it's just been getting irritating with all the noobie who just joined posting countless threads asking the same questions over and over because they can't spend 5 minutes to search and read.
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i understand where your coming from but look at it this way, there will always be people posting comments like this, its human nature, no one reads "signs" you could have it blinking in red neon at the top of the page and still one one would see it, the polite way to deal with it rather than slag people off for asking a question that they have already asked is to answer it then tell them to search, wiki etc next time, if the user has had several posts then there is no excuse, but first time posters or even very new posters shouldnt have their heads bitten off because regardless of "rules" they do not know any better.
Think of them as children, most kids learn through doing, telling them its hot doesnt always work!
and regards to your point about every noob posting, well yes they will, you wont stop it unless like yourself they have some common sence, most do not, for many on here english is not their first language, all im saying is
they ask a stupid question, its their first question/post, politely either tell them the answer or point them too it then explain how to do it next time.
They have already created the thread, you will post a reply anyway, you may as well make it a useful reply
ironically none of us has answered him! lol
ok, go to the forum lists and look near the top you will see WP7 development, the HD2 is the most likely piece of current hardware to support the software so its mostly related to HD2
and search next time, as you can see it gets peoples backs up!
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I don't know... if we are too nice to everyone, every noobie will post whatever they want without a second thought or searching... at least if they are worried about being flamed they may do a better job searching before posting. This forum seems to be attracting more and more noobies every day who post ridiculous things without searching first. This forum is suppose to be for developers and advanced users... at least that was what I though when I first joined and that's what attracted me to this site. I didn't post anything for years after joining because I didn't feel I had anything important to offer, and any information I needed I was able to find by searching and reading. I read these forums everyday. It seems, though, since I got a HD2 and started browsing the HD2 forums, there has seemed to be a flood of noobies and a lower quality of posts on average.
Sorry for the rant... it's just been getting irritating with all the noobie who just joined posting countless threads asking the same questions over and over because they can't spend 5 minutes to search and read.
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I have been using WinMo since O2 Mini days. That is at least 8 years ago (if my memory serves me right). However, I still consider myself a newbie as there are so many new things each day.
And yes, I do search the forums before posting questions. But sometimes, even searches generate so much results that filtering them one by one would take a long time.
So please, have mercy on newbies like us and give us the chance to learn, and maybe we can contribute better later.
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I searched all formums before I posted.
I even searched this forum before I posted when I was only 14!
So why cant other people do the same.
i think a newbie section should done or a block on until u have looked at post info for newcomers then give people a quick guide of where to look etc
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Well I too haven't posted because I haven't had anything to add, but I think that when you bear in mind the increasing popularity of smartphones as well as this site you are bound to come across more questions from the inexperienced.
Just remember that the search methods and site structure may not be apparent to everyone at first, as such feel free to chided them for their inexperience but at least help point them in the right direction. After all the times I have been helped by someone else asking a simple question.
There are no stupid questions, only stupid people.
No, WM7 will NEVER work in an HD2. Here is why. Each WM7 capable phone has a unique hardware ID number spacific too WM7 phones. This is for XBL Live intergration, as its a way to lock out cheaters phones from XBL and keeping the playing field even. No ID, no WM7, and only WM7 spacific phones have this ID system.
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No, WM7 will NEVER work in an HD2. Here is why. Each WM7 capable phone has a unique hardware ID number spacific too WM7 phones. This is for XBL Live intergration, as its a way to lock out cheaters phones from XBL and keeping the playing field even. No ID, no WM7, and only WM7 spacific phones have this ID system.
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Your making one huge assumption, and that is that they can not find away to get around the block of running native code and having direct access to the APIs
i see what your saying about the online cloud intigration with live and yes that may prove to be an issue but only if your using the live software, i believe the idea would be to get the OS running with the hardware (which is a huge take in its self perhaps impossible) then Native code to allow execution ofwhatever we want, then the modding can start bypassing live intigration, remember android has heavy ties with google which has been largely stiripped out.
all im saying is dont knock it just yet, the xbox and xbox360 has been "tweeked" to work, fair enough zune HD wasnt but that had little intrest. getting drivers will be the biggest issue
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I searched all formums before I posted.
I even searched this forum before I posted when I was only 14!
So why cant other people do the same.
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you speak english i assume, many many people on here do not speak it as their first language, that makes it tricky to search for things, try searching for something in google thats french, you should have had basic french at school but i bet you'll not find things so easy then
Just because you know something and find it easy doesnt mean others do too, the world does not revolve around English and your abilities.
All im saying is we shouldnt shout at new people, its rude, you are replying anyway so why not make it constructive by either giving the answer or showing them where to find it, THEN politely slap their wrists and correct them on the error of their ways
What Wiki says....
Wiki says, " Windows Phone 7 was thought to have been unofficially ported to the HD2, but it was later demonstrated as easy to fake with the use of a Remote Terminal connection. [9]"
What the heck?? "If it walks like a duck......"
Search for Wiki HD2. Interesting.
Junior Member???
What is this Junior Member stuff anyway. Twenty four hours ago I **** evn spel noob.
Please list me as "Second Assistant to a Junior Apprentice to a Junior Noob".
Thank You.
I realize this is a TMO forum but since the HD2 is a TMO phone, I'm hoping someone has already done this.
I've been with TMO since April and while I'm generally happy with lesser dropped calls than AT&T, TMO's 3G service is very sporadic and does not seem to be as prolific in its availability as AT&T's.
Has anyone successfully used an unlocked HD2 on AT&T?
I would appreciate any information and suggestions on this, especially which ROM(s) to use to de-brand it and any tips/tweaks that will allow the HD2 to fully function on AT&T, including Data and Carrier/Frequency settings.
I don't plan on using the AT&T 2GB plans, just their "Unlimited" package for "dumb phones". Tethering is definitely needed.
ANY help in this will be greatly appreciated. If you don't feel like posting, you can PM me with the details.
Thanks
im guessing you didnt read much before you posted. yes tons of people use the tmous on at&t, yes it works, no you wont get 3G.
samsamuel said:
im guessing you didnt read much before you posted. yes tons of people use the tmous on at&t, yes it works, no you wont get 3G.
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Actually I did, and after wading through a seemingly endless barrage of "chatty" mostly unfocused and unrelated posts, I decided to cut to the chase and post my own thread with the hope that someone with SUBSTANTIVE answers would respond.
You see, a common theme in most forums (this one included) is that direct and specific answers are seldom posted. Instead, there is the obvious posts from those that just like to post and see their post published for the world to see and appreciate.
Personally, I find posts like "I have that same problem..." or "why don't you like TMO..." or even "have you read the other posts..." adds very little to the discussion and only serves to inflate the thread to a multi-page diatribe that does little to serve or answer the original question.
I really don't care to hear about the mother-in-law that has the same issue, or the poor guy with a bricked phone, posted in the same thread as a specific and succinct request for assistance.
Please don't be offended but if you feel like flaming me on this then I respectfully request that you do so in a specific flaming thread and not this one. I would really appreciate responses from those willing and wanting to answer my question, sans lectures and unrelated tripe.
Thanks in advance for understanding.
heh, fair enough.
direct answer, yes, it will work once you network unlock it, no you won't get 3g or hsdpa, and no amount of radio or rom flashing will be able to enable 3g, its a hardware limitation.
hd2 att 3g
The only way to get 3g on this phone HD2 on the AT&T network is to buy the Australian version Telestra T9193, they go for between 500-700 on eBay.
Thanks for the straightforward answer Now that the question's been answered I would ask the mod to please close the thread to keep it small and easy for others to see the answer as posted above and from having to endure twenty pages of nonsense like in other threads. I would never have posted this thread had I found the above answer succinctly posted sans tripe in other threads.
Again, thanks for the simple and direct response.
Now I can go try and justify selling this TMO HD2 and fork out more $$$ for a Telstra unit.
I believe this forum right not can confuse the new people and make the others pissed off. The tags are all random right now. Why wasn't it asked to the community if this is a good idea? Instead it was "I". Come on now.
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I believe this forum right not can confuse the new people and make the others pissed off. The tags are all random right now. Why wasn't it asked to the community if this is a good idea? Instead it was "I". Come on now.
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I agree The Dev forums are now more difficult to read. I'm not new to the community(not that you can tell that by my posts), but even I am getting a bit confused reading through the posts.
Dude, you should only be posting dev projects in here not your general discussions.
The forums were previously split and have now been rejoined as it did more harm then good. I just cant see how its "confusing" to anybody with common sense.
If you have a CDMA device you only need the CDMA roms, and if you have a GSM device then you want the GSM roms, simple.
Reporting post as its in wrong place.
PS. rating your own thread 5 starts is sad.
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Dude, you should only be posting dev projects in here not your general discussions.
The forums were previously split and have now been rejoined as it did more harm then good. I just cant see how its "confusing" to anybody with common sense.
If you have a CDMA device you only need the CDMA roms, and if you have a GSM device then you want the GSM roms, simple.
Reporting post as its in wrong place.
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this guy cracks me up....hes all like, im telling mom. why so damn anal? the topic had nothing to do with dev, you didnt even need to waste your time posting trying to correct someone.
im with the op, it WAS easier to navigate gsm/cdma split up. the ONLY reason it got brought back was because of this honeycomb crap...which looky there, it's primary devs are all cdma anyways. people complained after a cdma link ended up in a gsm thread...then they cry, oh WHYYYYY do i have to click another button?!? its the end of the world and my tablet wont survive unless its all cluttered in one place.
i agree with a couple posts saying the OP should just put the info in [brackets] and call it a day.
i still think they should be split up again.
as for reporting this thread, its a legit req to the devs, def not in the wrong section...there are other ways of telling them what you think but this way everyone can put in their 2 cents (myself included)
Yup, there should be 2. With most of the dev threads being non-indicative its much harder to find anything, let alone whether or not the thread is for your device or not. Recombining the 2 SGT type threads was a bad idea. We're all gonna get carpal tunnel anyways, what's one more click?
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It was split into 2, now its back to 1?! Our mod is confusing.
Sent from inside a whale.
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this guy cracks me up....hes all like, im telling mom. why so damn anal? the topic had nothing to do with dev, you didnt even need to waste your time posting trying to correct someone.
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Nothing to do with been anal, Its to do with wanting the forum to be organized and posting crap in wrong places hinders that.
Back on topic, Splitting of the forums just isnt needed, If you want CDMA topics do a title search for CDMA using search option or just browse section as normal, its not hard to differentiate the topics.
A good vB forum mod to install to make it easier for you would be the prefix mod that enables posters to choose set prefix's, these are color coded so would be immediate more distinguishable.
If they were to re-split the forums it would be good to have some sort of third forum as a middle ground, maybe something like..
Galaxy Tab GSM Android Development
Galaxy Tab CDMA Android Development
Galaxy Tab MISC Android Development
That way we could have a non specific section for adding stuff that relates to both device types.
I believe most of the devs ACTUALLY make it clear which device their ROMs and kernels are for. People just don't read properly.
For me, it's more of actually being of help to the guys who don't read properly and complain about broken tabs rather than being able to be more organized. After making mistakes so many times they'll finally learn to do proper reading.
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Dude, you should only be posting dev projects in here not your general discussions.
The forums were previously split and have now been rejoined as it did more harm then good. I just cant see how its "confusing" to anybody with common sense.
PS. rating your own thread 5 starts is sad.
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I believe most of the devs ACTUALLY make it clear which device their ROMs and kernels are for. People just don't read properly.
For me, it's more of actually being of help to the guys who don't read properly and complain about broken tabs rather than being able to be more organized. After making mistakes so many times they'll finally learn to do proper reading.
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I'm smart enough to look at the title, and I liked it the way it was before.
At 3am, tired, doped up on my meds, feeling frisky to flash a new rom, brain fried, it was easier to go to the CDMA section, now I have to be even more careful. Not that it matters if I flash a GSM on my CDMA as I can always restore, but that's not the point.
Yes there are way to many kiddies that wont read for a week before they flash a kernel or rom and get stuck on a normal samsung boot loop, and it is normal for someone like me to ask if putting a gsm on a cdma tab will completely break it, or if it would work, and there are the lurkers who just want to install stuff.
So separating was a better idea, I could have gone to the forum for the device I wanted to read about, knowing i was in gsm or cdma, now I have to decipher what is what, or the more popular GSM threads might push an important cdma thread to page 2, where it would have been at the top for a week, and don't get me started on the HC ports for both GSM and CDMA, that alone could really screw someone who doesn't have 3 tablets and can afford to be without a daily use tab for an entire weekend.
A good mod/admin looks beyond what they feel the more established crowd might like, and makes adjustments for the new people that could provide help for projects like the HC port once they have been able to read in an organized forum. Also what exact proof is there that the former setup did more damage? what, and extra click or 2 to go back and forth between cdma and GSM? ****, put a direct link in your FF BM tab,
Like this............
It was split into two, and then people started complaining to svetius so it was put back. We're never gonna make everyone happy here, but we're trying.
My gripe about the split was that there was no middle ground. For example there was no section to post stuff that wasnt device specific.
IMO it should either be left as it is now, not split or split and a third section added for misc or "non device specific".
joined those not happy with vzw, especially since move to mass. I have s5 I want to use with att, but with additional concern I have yet to find answered in my research.
because vzw 4g lte phones are not carrier locked--so vzw says, I gather there should be little or no problem with an att sim in the vsw s5. research confirms many with no problem after the transfer. however, and this is the reason for the thread, what happens when no 4g lte signal from att?
please excuse my ignorance if common sense should reveal that answer, but I am so angry with vzw right now I can't see straight. the ignorance is the s5 capability regarding signal drop to non-4g lte with vzw purchased phone and att network.
why? I started service with att, another phone, to see how the signal is in this area, prior to the transition, and I rarely have lte and often with hspa, not hspa+.
not impressed with the cellular service just outside of boston yet both vzw and att claim strong coverage. go figure. anyway, I hope someone can help me understand what the s5 can do versus what the carriers have done to them. recommendations or whatever, please fire away.
thanks.
nothing?
20 views and nothing?
maybe this will help if unclear: rarely do I have lte on the screen. sometimes I have 4g, not often. so, is it possible a 4g lte phone can drop to 3g? if so, does the cdma/gsm difference come back into play?
it would be nice to see from someone with vzw to att experience.
thanks.
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The lack of replies might be because your questions have been asked and answered many times. There are more than 20 existing threads on this subject that answer your questions. Why not read the wealth of information in those threads first? More than likely that would answer all of your questions. And if not, then your remaining questions would be better informed.
In short, a Verizon phone can be used on ATT but it will always be a poor fit that won't work well in many circumstances. You can find the particulars discussed at length in existing threads.
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The lack of replies might be because your questions have been asked and answered many times. There are more than 20 existing threads on this subject that answer your questions. Why not read the wealth of information in those threads first? More than likely that would answer all of your questions. And if not, then your remaining questions would be better informed.
In short, a Verizon phone can be used on ATT but it will always be a poor fit that won't work well in many circumstances. You can find the particulars discussed at length in existing threads.
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I know this is not the first effort at xda-dev as my subject indicates, but I have yet to find the particulars once a transferred phone is in a non-4g environment. did I miss it? if it is here, yes.
I get the sensitivity some have for repeat entries, but it is a forum for sharing information and that often evolves. It is not always practical or the information uptodate or even accurate or whatever to think it unreasonable to have another instance surface. okay, I could bump one and see where it goes; some will cry about the thread is old. doesn't it make sense to revisit just in case new information or whatever?
with that said, I have not read that is it a poor fit in Many circumstances..still looking. Thank you.
moderator, please close the thread; no longer attending.
I've rooted every phone I've owned and was expecting to do the same with my new s7 Edge (Snapdragon on android 6.0.1). After much google searching/reading I want to confirm that not only is there no root but there likely will be no root because of a locked bootloader?
Are you able to root the S7? I may switch to that if so.
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I've rooted every phone I've owned and was expecting to do the same with my new s7 Edge (Snapdragon on android 6.0.1). After much google searching/reading I want to confirm that not only is there no root but there likely will be no root because of a locked bootloader?
Are you able to root the S7? I may switch to that if so.
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Didn't you bother to read the forum yet?
It's pretty much EVERYWHERE!
No. No root.
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easy-firmware dot com/index.php?a=browse&b=category&id=11969 today icheck here is root for g935p its right or fake can anyone tell plz
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Didn't you bother to read the forum yet?
It's pretty much EVERYWHERE!
No. No root.
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I did see it, I'm just in disbelief/denial. I love this phone and now I think I'm going to return it
I think it's safe to say that by the time root is available for this phone the s8 edge will be coming out lol
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I did see it, I'm just in disbelief/denial. I love this phone and now I think I'm going to return it
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed
Here's a link for you to go explore the xposed forums that you failed to read.
Xposed has been around quite a bit longer than the S7. And simply because you are "in disbelief" or "denial", doesn't change the ability to read all the threads for xposed, and all that has been posted quite a bit before the s7 was mentioned.
ENOUGH! Unless you want this thread moved to the Asperger's section you guys are way off topic.
OP, you have your answer. There is no ETA for root. There probably won't be root at all.
My opinion which was inspired by my own perspective is that if you were able to find the forum, you could have taken at least FIVE minutes to read on the progress of root. It seriously would have taken less time to search than to start a new thread. Most of us on here are hoping, wishing, begging and even praying for root access. We've been following the results closely and some of us are even risking our own devices out of desperation to acquire to what has only have been complete failure so far. So with that being said, we're all a bit edgy. So on behalf of the forum, please just accept this as our excuse and most formal apology for any "rudeness" or "inconsiderate" responses to your inquiry. For future reference, all XDA members are encouraged to search prior to starting a new thread for the very reason of avoiding situations such as this. You've been a member for five years and so far have had 50 posts, 10 threads and two of those (threads) are the EXACT same.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/external-usb-keyboard-mouse-htc-10-t3406812 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/external-usb-keyboard-mouse-htc-10-t3406655 posted about five hours apart. (How do you even do that?)
So in conclusion, it's unfair to be defensive when in all honesty all of this could easily be avoided by using the forum for it's very purpose which is to gather and share information to each other, not to have everyone research for you.
Sorry if this was long winded, but I felt that it was necessary to say.
Binary100100 said:
ENOUGH! Unless you want this thread moved to the Asperger's section you guys are way off topic.
OP, you have your answer. There is no ETA for root. There probably won't be root at all.
My opinion which was inspired by my own perspective is that if you were able to find the forum, you could have taken at least FIVE minutes to read on the progress of root. It seriously would have taken less time to search than to start a new thread. Most of us on here are hoping, wishing, begging and even praying for root access. We've been following the results closely and some of us are even risking our own devices out of desperation to acquire to what has only have been complete failure so far. So with that being said, we're all a bit edgy. So on behalf of the forum, please just accept this as our excuse and most formal apology for any "rudeness" or "inconsiderate" responses to your inquiry. For future reference, all XDA members are encouraged to search prior to starting a new thread for the very reason of avoiding situations such as this. You've been a member for five years and so far have had 50 posts, 10 threads and two of those (threads) are the EXACT same.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/external-usb-keyboard-mouse-htc-10-t3406812 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/external-usb-keyboard-mouse-htc-10-t3406655 posted about five hours apart. (How do you even do that?)
So in conclusion, it's unfair to be defensive when in all honesty all of this could easily be avoided by using the forum for it's very purpose which is to gather and share information to each other, not to have everyone research for you.
Sorry if this was long winded, but I felt that it was necessary to say.
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To answer your question I had no idea I double posted that thread, I don't even know how it happened lol
I actually did a lot of searching on this forum before posting, honestly there's just no obvious post title's that talk about root for the s7 edge snapdragon. Go check it out, search "root access", "root", "s7 edge root" on these forums and see what you come up with, the thread titles definitely do not indicate that root is discussed within them (for snapdragon).
itsmattgw said:
To answer your question I had no idea I double posted that thread, I don't even know how it happened lol
I actually did a lot of searching on this forum before posting, honestly there's just not obvious post title's that talk about root for the s7 edge snapdragon. Go check it out, search "root access", "root", "s7 root" on these forums and see what you come up with, the thread titles definitely do not indicate that root is discussed within them (for snapdragon).
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If there was root then there would be a "HOW TO ROOT" guide. It's how it's always been. But stating that you searched and somehow didn't pick up the obvious that it isn't possible (yet) is only going to get you flamed. Members only assume that you're either trolling or at the very best too lazy to search it out. There are several threads and comments regarding lack of root. There are petitions and bounties for it as well. So you still defend that with all of your searching you didn't see ANY of that? That's what most of us find hard to believe.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s7/how-to/petition-to-unlock-phones-t3337450
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s7/development (nothing there because there is NOTHING)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/root-discussion-future-sticky-root-t3327399
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/s7-bootloader-unlock-petition-t3337524
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/how-to/root-unlocked-bootloader-update-t3392841
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...nty-rooting-verizon-s7-edge-tripping-t3382611
And the S7 thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/discussion-galaxy-s7-root-information-t3335594
Where it says "Currently unrootable devices:
Snapdragon 820-based models in the US including SM-G930A/T/P/R/V
These devices have a locked bootloader (including even the T-Mobile version) and cannot be rooted at this time."
I spent exactly 5 minutes getting all of this from my phone.
There's no way you could have missed it.
Please try harder to search. Thanks.
Binary100100 said:
If there was root then there would be a "HOW TO ROOT" guide. It's how it's always been. But stating that you searched and somehow didn't pick up the obvious that it isn't possible (yet) is only going to get you flamed. Members only assume that you're either trolling or at the very best too lazy to search it out. There are several threads and comments regarding lack of root. There are petitions and bounties for it as well. So you still defend that with all of your searching you didn't see ANY of that? That's what most of us find hard to believe.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s7/how-to/petition-to-unlock-phones-t3337450
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s7/development (nothing there because there is NOTHING)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/root-discussion-future-sticky-root-t3327399
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/s7-bootloader-unlock-petition-t3337524
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/how-to/root-unlocked-bootloader-update-t3392841
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...nty-rooting-verizon-s7-edge-tripping-t3382611
And the S7 thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/discussion-galaxy-s7-root-information-t3335594
Where it says "Currently unrootable devices:
Snapdragon 820-based models in the US including SM-G930A/T/P/R/V
These devices have a locked bootloader (including even the T-Mobile version) and cannot be rooted at this time."
I spent exactly 5 minutes getting all of this from my phone.
There's no way you could have missed it.
Please try harder to search. Thanks.
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Your post really drives my point home.
I was looking/searching for s7 edge root information. The only logical place for me to search these forums is in the "s7 edge" forums. Many of the links you gave below are in the S7 forum; why would someone search in the s7 forum for information on the s7 edge? They wouldn't...But here's the actual issue, the rest of the links you gave either do not show up when you search the forum for "root" or they are buried so far into the search it's not practical to find it. Again, try it yourself. go to the S7 edge page here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge
and do a search for "root" and see what you get. Can you honestly not see how these search results do not lead to a definitive answer? To prove my point even more, I actually typed in one of the titles you gave below, "Root and unlocked bootloader update" into the search box and it didn't even bring that thread up after searching the title directly. Maybe the search is broken. Try it yourself, it doesn't work.
itsmattgw said:
Your post really drives my point home.
I was looking/searching for s7 edge root information. The only logical place for me to search these forums is in the "s7 edge" forums. Many of the links you gave below are in the S7 forum; why would someone search in the s7 forum for information on the s7 edge? They wouldn't...But here's the actual issue, the rest of the links you gave either do not show up when you search the forum for "root" or they are buried so far into the search it's not practical to find it. Again, try it yourself. go to the S7 edge page here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge
and do a search for "root" and see what you get. Can you honestly not see how these search results do not lead to a definitive answer? To prove my point even more, I actually typed in one of the titles you gave below, "Root and unlocked bootloader update" into the search box and it didn't even bring that thread up after searching the title directly. Maybe the search is broken. Try it yourself, it doesn't work.
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You're just making excuses. You failed to search and read. We're not going to open more threads discussing how rooting is NOT possible when it should be clear for anyone with common sense would see that if it WAS possible, there would be guides to do it. You don't need to post a thread asking for something that doesn't exist when it clearly isn't otherwise there would be guides, roms, kernels, recoveries, themes, mods, etc. You don't see any of that because they don't exist. They don't exist because there's NOTHING TO GIVE! Not sure why the concept is so difficult to grasp though. The S7 and S7 Edge (Qualcomm) is almost identical with the exception of the screen. Neither of which has root.
But I gave your search a try. Under S7 Edge forum. I searched for "Qualcomm root" and resulted in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/root-available-t3406774
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/one-rooted-s7-s7-edge-snapdragon-version-t3357695
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/sprint-s7-edge-root-custom-rom-t3383181
which were all on the search same page. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=420757026)
Binary100100 said:
You're just making excuses. You failed to search and read. We're not going to open more threads discussing how rooting is NOT possible when it should be clear for anyone with common sense would see that if it WAS possible, there would be guides to do it. You don't need to post a thread asking for something that doesn't exist when it clearly isn't otherwise there would be guides, roms, kernels, recoveries, themes, mods, etc. You don't see any of that because they don't exist. They don't exist because there's NOTHING TO GIVE! Not sure why the concept is so difficult to grasp though. The S7 and S7 Edge (Qualcomm) is almost identical with the exception of the screen. Neither of which has root.
But I gave your search a try. Under S7 Edge forum. I searched for "Qualcomm root" and resulted in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/root-available-t3406774
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/one-rooted-s7-s7-edge-snapdragon-version-t3357695
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/sprint-s7-edge-root-custom-rom-t3383181
which were all on the search same page. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=420757026)
So with that being said, please take time to search and read prior to posting new threads.
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lol, seriously man. You really think someone who just bought an s7 edge looking to root would know to search for the term "Qualcomm"? That's the first I have ever heard that term, I searched "root" and even knew to search "snapdragon". The search you used is only obvious after you know more than the average person about the s7 Edge.
But anyway let me make sure I have everything straight now:
Searching "root" in the S7 Edge forums may not yield the results you are looking for because the S7 Edge is also known as the Snapdragon and may at times also be referred to as the Qualcomm or Qualcomm S7 Edge but can be more commonly referred to as MODEL TYPE: SM-G935P however depending on the locale of purchase it will be referred to as the Exynos which is the international version MODEL TYPE: (SM-G935T) of the snapdragon QUALCOMM s7 "edge" SM-G935P and contains a Samsung processor instead of the Snapragon but may be confused with the identical model (except for the screen) which is the s7 and also has a counterpart in Europe and like it's edge sister model has a locked boot-loader which prevents it from gaining root access unlike the overseas version which is currently unlocked and is able to be rooted so when you see threads talking about the SM-G935T Exynos root then you should know that it's not necessarily referring to the version of phone you have although it may be if you purchased it online through a third party with an unlocked sim card.
It's all very obvious to anyone with common sense.
itsmattgw said:
lol, seriously man. You really think someone who just bought an s7 edge looking to root would know to search for the term "Qualcomm"? That's the first I have ever heard that term, I searched "root" and even knew to search "snapdragon". The search you used is only obvious after you know more than the average person about the s7 Edge.
But anyway let me make sure I have everything straight now:
Searching "root" in the S7 Edge forums may not yield the results you are looking for because the S7 Edge is also known as the Snapdragon and may at times also be referred to as the Qualcomm or Qualcomm S7 Edge but can be more commonly referred to as MODEL TYPE: SM-G935P however depending on the locale of purchase it will be referred to as the Exynos which is the international version MODEL TYPE: (SM-G935T) of the snapdragon QUALCOMM s7 "edge" SM-G935P and contains a Samsung processor instead of the Snapragon but may be confused with the identical model (except for the screen) which is the s7 and also has a counterpart in Europe and like it's edge sister model has a locked boot-loader which prevents it from gaining root access unlike the overseas version which is currently unlocked and is able to be rooted so when you see threads talking about the SM-G935T Exynos root then you should know that it's not necessarily referring to the version of phone you have although it may be if you purchased it online through a third party with an unlocked sim card.
It's all very obvious to anyone with common sense.
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You also admitted that you did manage to find it:
itsmattgw said:
I did see it, I'm just in disbelief/denial. I love this phone and now I think I'm going to return it
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Yet you still made this thread. For what purpose though? Did you expect your thread to remind us, "Oh! That's what we're missing! Let's create a 'How to root' thread so that people can figure out how to root it because we all know how incapable the forum is without a guide."
For one thing, the forum is very capable. This is how we acquire root access in the first place. Smart ones acquire root and make a guide for the rest of us (dumb ones) so that we can have root as well. If the "smart ones" haven't created a guide for us "dumb ones" (ie the rest of us) then clearly it's not available. But like you said, you're in denial. So in your eyes, we should definitely have root but for some reason it's not being shared with the rest of us. So what do YOU do to fix it? Post a thread to remind everyone that there isn't a root guide. That. That right there is what perplexes me and I'm 100% certain that I'm not alone. Now I'm not trying to be rude but please search, research and read prior to starting a thread. ONLY create a thread if after a LOT of searching and posting in relevant threads you still come up empty. You've created 10 threads with 50 posts. Two of which are duplicate somehow. No including the threads started or your defensive responses here, that's 40 posts. That's a 20% "I can't find it so I'll ask the forum to give it to me instead of searching more" ratio. I'm a retired forum moderator, former developer, regular contributor and I only have 51 threads to my 5,600 post count. since 2009. That's a 1% "Let me start a thread for this" ratio for a moderator / developer. On average, that's 5 threads a year as a moderator / developer. See where I'm going with this? There is almost nothing new that hasn't been mentioned or discussed somewhere within this forum. You just need to take the time to find it instead of just jumping to start a new thread. This is actually a forum rule. Number #1 to be exact. I'll post the link just in case you can't find it either.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=256
So with that being said, please take time to search and read prior to posting new threads.
Again, I'm not trying to be disrespectful. Simply acknowledge that you should spend more time searching, reading, researching and participating in other threads prior to creating new ones. We're trying to reduce clutter and needless threads such as this. Moderators are constantly trying to clean and close them when they should be focusing on more important issues within the forum. We're all doing our part to help out in this forum but while I've spent at least a collective helping you for something that you really could have done for yourself, I could have been focusing on more important issues. I simply could not go without trying to give you sound advice before getting majority of the forum upset at you. Which WILL happen if you're not careful.
Best wishes and good luck. I'll be reporting this thread for closing if that's okay?
itsmattgw said:
I've rooted every phone I've owned and was expecting to do the same with my new s7 Edge (Snapdragon on android 6.0.1). After much google searching/reading I want to confirm that not only is there no root but there likely will be no root because of a locked bootloader?
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TL;DR confirmed.
THREAD CLOSED as it's run off course and become pointless.
@OP, don't start another one like it. Feel free to read up on the currently open threads if you still have questions.