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Hi there! New to the forum, formerly used SDX developers.
on my first TouchWiz device and was hoping to hear some opinions and get educated on how custom ROMs work on a phone with an OEM overlay. I previously ran a Nexus S with Cyanogenmod on it. I really enjoyed it, but didn't lose any features going from vanilla Android to CM.
curious what features I might lose if I were to switch on this new phone. The features I might be interested in not losing are the camera app (essentially the burst shooting mode and best picture mode) and the air gestures. There were many features I really enjoyed of CM, but I would like most some sort of compromise.
other ROM suggestions would be appreciated to hear too.
Thanks for your time.
SalomonCascade said:
Hi there! New to the forum, formerly used SDX developers.
on my first TouchWiz device and was hoping to hear some opinions and get educated on how custom ROMs work on a phone with an OEM overlay. I previously ran a Nexus S with Cyanogenmod on it. I really enjoyed it, but didn't lose any features going from vanilla Android to CM.
curious what features I might lose if I were to switch on this new phone. The features I might be interested in not losing are the camera app (essentially the burst shooting mode and best picture mode) and the air gestures. There were many features I really enjoyed of CM, but I would like most some sort of compromise.
other ROM suggestions would be appreciated to hear too.
Thanks for your time.
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You basically either got to go AOSP or TW, all the TW roms will have those features that come with stock working. AOSP roms like CM, AOKP, PA, etc won't have any of the unique TW features like air gestures and etc. In regards to the camera, it won't be the same exact app, but I'm pretty sure AOSP has a few equivalent shooting modes but I don't remember which ones, haven't used the AOSP camera in awhile.
And I'm pretty sure I've read that it won't be possible to merge those TW features, like smart scroll and all that air stuff, into CM and etc. MAYBE if the Google GS4 comes with them we will be able to port them in, but I doubt that'll the Google S4 will.
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So S Beam and S Health won't be ported to AOSP style ROMs either? I'm just trying to figure out which way to go. I like the idea of some of these features, but realistically probably wouldn't use them much. Have you experimented with any ROMs on your S4 yet? Thanks for your response.
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So S Beam and S Health won't be ported to AOSP style ROMs either? I'm just trying to figure out which way to go. I like the idea of some of these features, but realistically probably wouldn't use them much. Have you experimented with any ROMs on your S4 yet? Thanks for your response.
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I'm quite sure that the APK's of those apps are dependent on Touchwiz so they won't work if your on an AOSP rom. That might not be the case for all of them.
Yes sir! I have tried all the main TW roms out, Force Rom is a really slimmed down stock rom with some nice mods, FreeGS4 is a choose and pick everything you want from stock with everything being included and most of it being uninstallable by default, with a bunch of great mods, Blue Kuban is a blue themed out TW rom with a great built in mod downloader/updater. All three are great with different niches. There is also Highway (or something like that) and Untitled rom but those are in their early stages still.
And the AOSP roms are the usuals, CM, AOKP, AOSPA and also SlimBean. If your going to try an AOSP rom I recommend the official CM nightlies or Slimbean as the others are still in beta.
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I've been thinking I would wait for a CM milestone before giving it a shot. Might try Free GS4, that sounds up my ally. Thanks again for the answers. One last question if you have time: Have you considered dual booting?
I have been running ForceRom and have had great success with it. Battery life is great and phone has been running quite smoothly. Link below if you wanna check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261943
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Good question, and good information for new smartphone people such as I.
I am running the Team Sonic rom, I like it quite a bit. Its very similar to stock but with some important tweaks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294607&page=41
Hey guys. Let's discuss about the ROMs we use.
So I've tried both TouchWiz and AOSP style ROMs before. These are my opinion for them:
TouchWiz:
+ great UI
+ more features than AOSP
+ has TV out
+ less bugs
+ multiwindow
- sometimes slow and laggy
AOSP
+ great advance features
+ mostly customizable
+ super fast and almost lag free
+ try new versions of Android
- no tv out
- no sim card contacts support
So can I get you guys's opinion?
It will be great if you can introduce me ROMs that have TV out and probably many Samsung features too.. Best is 4.2 and onwards
Thanks ! Hope to hear from you guys
For me,stock is better for daily use.AOSP are also good but one thing that i hate about these roms is bad battery life.With stock,i can get 5-6 hrs screen on time.With AOSP,i get 3-4 hrs screen on time.
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AOSP being super fast and lag free on the S2 is a myth really. HW composer does not work on non samsung based roms meaning no project butter. That alone makes stock based roms a much more fluid experience even if it may not be as fast at opening apps for example.
try charmeleon rom base on jb 4.2.1 has a feauture of all aosp pure stock vanilla android hehe
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I find roms like CM/OMNI better than stock in many ways, but I can't stand camera drivers, these are terrible In TouchWiz we have all sorts of enhancements like real time focus, blinking detection and for me it's the only disadvantage of these roms.
is there a port of tw for ASOP 4.4 builds? i dont like the ASOP notification bar .....is hideous and has way less functionality
Aosp based - no project butter
Camera is pathetic
Battery life poor
Superb performace
Happy feeling to run latest android
Highly customisable
Sammy rom
- slow bt fluid
- superb camera
- bloated (can be removed)
-much better handling for high end games
- touchwiz ui (I like it more wid touchwiz)
-good battery life
-feeling of being ancient (when u run 4.1 even when kitkat has been launched for months)
Jockson said:
AOSP being super fast and lag free on the S2 is a myth really. HW composer does not work on non samsung based roms meaning no project butter. That alone makes stock based roms a much more fluid experience even if it may not be as fast at opening apps for example.
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On the hw composer part, is it specific to the S2? Or also the other S devices? like the S3 or S4 for example.
qxps said:
On the hw composer part, is it specific to the S2? Or also the other S devices? like the S3 or S4 for example.
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I thought all the Galaxy devices have a lack of sources when it comes to AOSP roms..
Donnie Sins said:
I thought all the Galaxy devices have a lack of sources when it comes to AOSP roms..
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Except for the galaxy s ... Which was identical to nexus s
I would prefer touchwiz...
More features and stability and also good battery life
I have tried so many AOSP/AOKP roms... but in the end I keep coming back to stock samsung based rom
AOSP roms are really beautiful and faster when it comes to opening apps. Samsung Stock based roms are just the most appropriate choice for daily use... much better battery life, can share contacts with a car's BT device, faster and better quality camera, much better performances when gaming.
its that much better battery life on stock compared to new kitkat or 4.3 aosp aokp?
stock rom+stock kernel is better then all of others when talking abt battery?
If only there's a ROM with AOSP and TouchWiz together with those latest features from AOSP and TouchWiz .. Hhahaa
whazi said:
its that much better battery life on stock compared to new kitkat or 4.3 aosp aokp?
stock rom+stock kernel is better then all of others when talking abt battery?
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bingo my friend... and u can try if u dont belive me ...
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b_ongzhenyu said:
If only there's a ROM with AOSP and TouchWiz together with those latest features from AOSP and TouchWiz .. Hhahaa
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yes there are many bt wid aosp as base.. they suffer the same drawbacks
whazi said:
its that much better battery life on stock compared to new kitkat or 4.3 aosp aokp?
stock rom+stock kernel is better then all of others when talking abt battery?
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Yes it is. All you have to do is to take a debloated stock ROM. Philz kernel is just fine (stock kernel rooted).
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guys checkout the chamaleon rom aosp feauture base on stock rom.
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dredremon said:
guys checkout the chamaleon rom aosp feauture base on stock rom.
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Yep, this is it, a perfect daily driver
GibonXL said:
Yep, this is it, a perfect daily driver
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Last time I checked, ppl reported few bugs. For example the quick settings bug.
Few months ago I tried an older version, but I came back to stock touchwiz. I had quite a few bugs all over the place (clean install).
Plinky89 said:
Last time I checked, ppl reported few bugs. For example the quick settings bug.
Few months ago I tried an older version, but I came back to stock touchwiz. I had quite a few bugs all over the place (clean install).
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Using stock ics wid xposed mods.. Superb for me
Hey there guys, I will be quite simple with this one
I love the design of this phone and also the battery + camera (those are my main reasons)
I'm getting my G2 on friday! and I normally go with custom roms (although with htc one m7 I stayed in stock because the camera quality loss (due to no libs) was huge)
does this happen also with LG G2?
Is there a considerable quality loss of taking pictures when you move to a custom rom?
What about the excellent battery? does it gets even better on custom rom?
Thanks for your answers!
mariosanoguera said:
Hey there guys, I will be quite simple with this one
I love the design of this phone and also the battery + camera (those are my main reasons)
I'm getting my G2 on friday! and I normally go with custom roms (although with htc one m7 I stayed in stock because the camera quality loss (due to no libs) was huge)
does this happen also with LG G2?
Is there a considerable quality loss of taking pictures when you move to a custom rom?
What about the excellent battery? does it gets even better on custom rom?
Thanks for your answers!
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There might be a little tiny bit, but with the 13mp, you have to zoom in quite a bit more to see noise or blurriness than with the M7. I use PA rom and i have no problem with cameraquality.
I'm new here too, there are 2 kinds of most used roms, stock roms and AOSP or CM roms I can tell you that if you want a good camera use stock custom roms, because AOSP rom's camera doesn't have all Lg features, but if you want better battery maybe the double of screen on time, use AOSP roms, for stock roms I recommend you the Cloudy ones for example, and for AOSP, Mahdi Rom is the one I use when I'm not on stock rom, try them out and decide by yourself,
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I'm new here too, there are 2 kinds of most used roms, stock roms and AOSP or CM roms I can tell you that if you want a good camera use stock custom roms, because AOSP rom's camera doesn't have all Lg features, but if you want better battery maybe the double of screen on time, use AOSP roms, for stock roms I recommend you the Cloudy ones for example, and for AOSP, Mahdi Rom is the one I use when I'm not on stock rom, try them out and decide by yourself,
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thank for the replies, I will note it down to try them out in friday when my g2 arrives!
edit: I probably think I will go for Cloudy to start with for some time ^^ thanks for the recomendations
Plz guys help to find good Rom for my S4 and without problems
Every rom is great, just try them and read a little in the threads to find the one that fits you
I prefer that you should stick to stock-based Roms because they are more stable than AOSP, MIUI, etc. Every Rom has their sets of issues just as us humans, we are not perfect. We have to overlook acceptable problems such as occasional and minimal lags or delays, but not the significant problems such as wifi connectivity, bluetooth problems, cellular data/signal problem, FCs, quick battery drain, extreme overheating, and etc.
So there is this stock-based rom that I use, called Imperium Rom v.12 by Slim80 http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/i9505-develop/rom-imperium-ll-v1-0-t3046889 It is the most stable Rom I have ever used as of now and I like to make my S4 committed to it, not commiting adultery with other roms anymore. Don't limit yourself by flashing an AOSP-based rom. The reason is the bugs that come with these AOSP roms and limited features compared to what I have been using now. Perhaps S4 is really meant to stick with its roots, not in the roots of others. So I suggest that you stick with a Touchwiz-based rom because of the premium features that AOSP doesn't have such as the amazing camera features, multi-window, great keyboard, and many more. Let the S4 grow in its roots.
I hope I could have helped you decide.
Note: This will be time-consuming, all of the flashing, organizing, and many other things. This can make us forget and ignore the existing human relationship we have now with families, friend, and the people around us and most importantly , the relationship we have with our Creator. Time is short. So I hope this android development thing will not interfere with the real priorities we have now for it had scrambled mine. So best wishes in Jesus' name.
Dirty Unicorn 9.8 or CM 12.1 SnapShot
For me i prefer Imperium Rom V12... Im also using albe95 note5 rom but still nothing compares with the original modified stockrom.. no lags, no bugs, smooth.. and the coolness whenever i play games.. especially when i play nba2k16, the temperature of my fone never changes..
PhoeniX Rom v11.6
I use PheoniX Rom (v11.6). And I think this is the best rom you can found at this moment for the galaxy s4. I am a flashaholic, so I tried every (TouchWiz) rom I could found here. But always come back to PhoeniX Rom. It is full of features, so that xposed is no more necessary (for me). The Battery life is also very good for our old device and everything is running smooth and fast. I use imperium Kernel and never had any issue with this awesome rom.
megaequs said:
I use PheoniX Rom (v11.6). And I think this is the best rom you can found at this moment for the galaxy s4. I am a flashaholic, so I tried every (TouchWiz) rom I could found here. But always come back to PhoeniX Rom. It is full of features, so that xposed is no more necessary (for me). The Battery life is also very good for our old device and everything is running smooth and fast. I use imperium Kernel and never had any issue with this awesome rom.
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its based on Older Build :crying: OF2 thats the only issue.
Touchwiz Based Roms :
[ROM] Albe95 S6 FULL PORT 4.7 [S6/Edge FEATURE PORT]
CM Based ROMS: Dirty Unicorn 9.8 or CM 12.1 SnapShot
But this isn'^t the correct section.
Request Move please.
Albe95 Note 5 port and Imperium 12 are best that i have come upon.
matthewjasperlo said:
I prefer that you should stick to stock-based Roms because they are more stable than AOSP, MIUI, etc. Every Rom has their sets of issues just as us humans, we are not perfect. We have to overlook acceptable problems such as occasional and minimal lags or delays, but not the significant problems such as wifi connectivity, bluetooth problems, cellular data/signal problem, FCs, quick battery drain, extreme overheating, and etc.
So there is this stock-based rom that I use, called Imperium Rom v.12 by Slim80 http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/i9505-develop/rom-imperium-ll-v1-0-t3046889 It is the most stable Rom I have ever used as of now and I like to make my S4 committed to it, not commiting adultery with other roms anymore. Don't limit yourself by flashing an AOSP-based rom. The reason is the bugs that come with these AOSP roms and limited features compared to what I have been using now. Perhaps S4 is really meant to stick with its roots, not in the roots of others. So I suggest that you stick with a Touchwiz-based rom because of the premium features that AOSP doesn't have such as the amazing camera features, multi-window, great keyboard, and many more. Let the S4 grow in its roots.
I hope I could have helped you decide.
Note: This will be time-consuming, all of the flashing, organizing, and many other things. This can make us forget and ignore the existing human relationship we have now with families, friend, and the people around us and most importantly , the relationship we have with our Creator. Time is short. So I hope this android development thing will not interfere with the real priorities we have now for it had scrambled mine. So best wishes in Jesus' name.
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I have to try this rom
Thx
For me i prefer Echoe ROM v5.0 wiht kernel echoe v5.7 ..stable for me
Indeed Imperium is one of the best tw ll based custom roms. But the only thing I don't understand is why Samsung themed lollipop so bright, although we all know that amoled screens have a better battery life with dark pixels. This question really bugs me.
alesu69 said:
Indeed Imperium is one of the best tw ll based custom roms. But the only thing I don't understand is why Samsung themed lollipop so bright, although we all know that amoled screens have a better battery life with dark pixels. This question really bugs me.
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Can Imperium (and Albe for that matter) be made to be dark all the way, ie how 4.4 was?
alesu69 said:
Indeed Imperium is one of the best tw ll based custom roms. But the only thing I don't understand is why Samsung themed lollipop so bright, although we all know that amoled screens have a better battery life with dark pixels. This question really bugs me.
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It's simple: they don't care
Sammy lollipop firmware is way below kk in terms of battery life. Also has more bugs, lag, etc
Edit: I think this thread should be moved into right section...
I found stock to be great but front camera works horrible on all of them. Aosp and cm roms give you better quality images and most likely better battery life too
its either Stock 5.0.1 (which is what i am on) or Imperium rom
Osmoso said:
I found stock to be great but front camera works horrible on all of them. Aosp and cm roms give you better quality images and most likely better battery life too
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You must be high or something.. everyone knows that AOSP based roms have terrible camera apps and horrible image quality.. Samsung camera app is way better.. and this is the only reason I can't stick to AOSP.. besides it gets boring after a while!
omega rom... period !!!
Hi I'm new to the galaxy s4 (i9506) I usually rock a oneplus3,
what rom should i get for my girlfriend if she wants a snappy ROM with the best camera and good battery life?
She is not using it for gaming so I don't care if it stutters a little there?
Priorities:
1. Camera
2. Speed
3. Battery
Go for cyanogenmod
https://mirrorbits.lineageos.org/fu...eage-13.0-20170422-nightly-ks01lte-signed.zip
Here you go Fast Smooth Stable
TouchWiz. People say the TouchWiz camera quality is better than custom ROM's camera.
So if camera is top priority, then she might as well stay on the stock ROM.
I have got good camera performance out of recent AOSP based builds.
markusviktorius said:
Hi I'm new to the galaxy s4 (i9506) I usually rock a oneplus3,
what rom should i get for my girlfriend if she wants a snappy ROM with the best camera and good battery life?
She is not using it for gaming so I don't care if it stutters a little there?
Priorities:
1. Camera
2. Speed
3. Battery
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Any custom ROM that is based off stock.
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Pwnycorn said:
TouchWiz. People say the TouchWiz camera quality is better than custom ROM's camera.
So if camera is top priority, then she might as well stay on the stock ROM.
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I mean, I just don't want it to be ****, but speed and battery is very important too, are there roms that are a sweet mix of all three?
markusviktorius said:
I mean, I just don't want it to be ****, but speed and battery is very important too, are there roms that are a sweet mix of all three?
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In my opinion, camera quality on custom ROMs isn't bad at all. I'm just telling you what the vast majority of people say.
Also, TouchWiz is a resource hog, so TouchWiz ROMs will never have the same performance as AOSP or Lineage ROMs.