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Hi guys,
I have a problem with my Jade. I've charged it last evening and I've barely used it. When I've went to bed it was 96% charged (ARIELbattery) and 10 minutes used.
This morning, when I've woke up, The battery was 33% and and the phone was 34 minutes usage time.
Something is wrong. Since there were no bluetooth, no wifi, no anything activated. And for sure, nobody played with the phone during the night.
This is not the first time when I see this behavior, but is the first time when the decrease is so big.
I suspect an app, but I do not know which of them. How can I see it?
Do you have other suggestions?
thanks!
There are some possible reasons:
Some SD-Cards seem to drain battery, so you can take it out for a test.
Some additional software is told to drain battery. Did you install something?
It is also helpful to switch to "flight-mode" over night. This normally reduces battery drain to nearly zero, if no additional consumers exist.
Hi,
Yes I've installed some software, like gAlarm, S2U2, icontact,ThumbCal, Skype, etc but last night none of them was started.
What can I do with the SD Card?! I need the SD-Card. Which card does not drain battery and which does?
I cannot turn off the phone over night.
Some clues here in this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514556&highlight=battery
I've read those before posting, but there was no answer to my problem. I have 67% drop of battery in 8 hours without touching the phone.
This is most likely that your device goes to screenoff or unattended power state instead of sleep. Your power settings might be corrupted. To change that go to your power settings advanced tab and change everything there (checkboxes and sliders), press ok and then change them back as they were, press ok. I'd suggest to keep the device turning off in one minute while on battery and none of the checkboxes for cord powered mode. There is a really freaky thing that even if you get your device to sleep with power button it will go back to screenoff mode after time specified by the turn off device slider while on battery IF you don't have that turn-off-while-on-battery checkbox checked there.
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even if you get your device to sleep with power button it will go back to screenoff mode after time specified by the turn off device slider while on battery IF you don't have that turn-off-while-on-battery checkbox checked there.
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Thanks for the answer. But I do not really understand what you are saying here.
My power settings are: 30sec for Screen Light and 1 min for Device (on battery).
None of the check boxes is set for the case when the device is powered.
It could also be due to the battery defect. After some time the battery could lose its storage ability (because of the defect), despite the mAH stated.
As a comparison, my battery is nearly one year old. On full charge, overnight drawdown (on sleep mode) is about 2%-3% .
ungureanub said:
Hi,
Yes I've installed some software, like gAlarm, S2U2, icontact,ThumbCal, Skype, etc but last night none of them was started.
What can I do with the SD Card?! I need the SD-Card. Which card does not drain battery and which does?
I cannot turn off the phone over night.
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I have no own experiences with this programs but Skype for example needs permanent connection to internet when activated (be care of the background job!). This uses data connection and this drains battery. I can not quantify this in %. In addition Skype does not allow the system to switch to deep sleep because it needs permanent connection!
None of the app was started. I just have Skype installed, but it was not used.
Uninstall S2U2 !!!!!
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Uninstall S2U2 !!!!!
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I found some German threads that discuss a problem with this software and battery life. Some loose 10% over night others 50%. I think you should try to uninstall (and afterwards soft-reset!) for a night and see what happens.
Please keep us informed.
First of all, I've disabled the 3G. Now it only gsm with gprs. Since I've done this it seems the battery drop is ... super ok. If yesterday morning I've had 33%, this morning I've had 20%, so 13% drop in 24h, and the phone was used normally as before.
last night the S2U2 was not started.
I will wait until the battery level reaches 10% an I will do a full charge.
I will keep you informed. Thanks to all for advices!
Some clues here too ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471365&highlight=battery+3g&page=2
Hi,
So now, 2 weeks later... after setting my Jade to GSM only (no 3G) I get 7-8 days of normal usage. As I said, before I always had to charge it the third day.
Normally, i get -28mAh drain in standby. When the screen is on around -130mAh (for wake up) and then -70mAh. In a gsm call i get around -250mAh.
I did not switch the phone back to 3G yet, but I will and I will see again the battery drain.
PS: the values were provided by Mobadi.
i believe i have S2U2 installed... and my phones fine!
i have the overloaded rom... and battery life seems great only needs charging every 3 or so days and i do use it quite alot!
so...
after some time of testing and re-testing I still have, from time to time, the behavior that during night I see a massive drop in battery level and an increase of the usage time.
I do not know what is going on, but I suspect that some app is waking up the device to do some work (without turning on the screen), and the Jade cannot go to sleep anymore for a while.
I've notice the same behavior on a HTC Diamond 2.
Since none of the app I have installed on my Jade are installed on my friends Diamond2, I have no idea what app could do that.
If anybody has any idea, feel free .... I am idea-less!
I've made myself a little application to log the current values of the power data. So, I've saw that my phone wakes up each hour by himself, without turning on the screen, does some work (cca -70mA) and after 30sec goes back to sleep.
Any ideea about this?
found this on another site don't know if it has any relevance since i just tried it but will keep you posted:
Disclaimer: the following may *not* to the HTC EVO! And yes, of course we should NEVER have to deal with this kind of kluge. But it might help…
There’s a known bug in the cell radio software on at least one other HTC Android phone (Eris) that can significantly reduce battery life. Basically, it thinks it doesn’t have a signal (though it’s connected) and frequently keeps trying to connect, which steadily drains the battery, even when the phone is apparently idle.
To check if this is affecting your phone:
From the home screen, press Menu, Settings.
Scroll down to the bottom and press About Phone.
Press Battery
Press Battery Use
Press Cell Standby.
Take a look at Time Without Signal. If it’s 0% or a bit higher, then your phone is not affected and you can stop reading. If it’s 50% or significantly higher than you know it should be (e.g. you were in cell range all or most of the time), then the phone is being affected by this problem. BTW, Time Without Signal may not be displayed in some circumstances – try again later. AFAIK, all HTC Eris’s are affected, not sure about other phones.
The good news is that there’s a simple way to fix it (usually called the Airplane Mode trick):
Power your phone off and then restart it.
Once it’s fully booted, plug in the charger.
From the Home screen, press Menu, Settings and Wireless & Networks.
Press Airplane Mode and wait until it’s checked and back to full brightness.
Unplug the charger.
Press Airplane mode and make sure that it’s unchecked.
That’s it!
Will this fix cut down down on searching for a cell signal? Can anyone verify thi works?
Trying this now. Will report back in a few hours.
It doesn't make any sense, but I think this might have worked. I tried this about 4 hours ago and I'm still at 0%. I was getting as much as 50% without service. I'll report back again after I have some more time to test it.
I'm at 10 hours now and it's still at 0%. I don't know why this works, but it appears to actually work. I was even able to turn on always on data with no negative battery consumption since I don't really have much auto-syncing.
Thank you very much OP.
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I'm at 10 hours now and it's still at 0%. I don't know why this works, but it appears to actually work. I was even able to turn on always on data with no negative battery consumption since I don't really have much auto-syncing.
Thank you very much OP.
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Same here, went from 4:00pm yesterday to 5:00am this morning and still had 50% battery. Watched some trailers, used a flashlight app ( alot, thanks to being without power till this morning), did some texting, and was watching weather radar. My time without a signal is staying at 0% also.
Thanks also.
Here's an easier way to do this from a previous post. FYI - I did this a few days ago. Here's my current battery test stats (I'm letting it drain itself out and see how long I can go).
Uptime: 32 Hours, 45 Minutes
Awake Time: 4 Hours, 30 Minutes
It has not been on a charger since it was last fully charged. Love it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700601&highlight=battery
Wow, my stand by was at 58%, though I am inside a building with horrible reception, I sure hope this fixes it.
Will this fix be permanent or will I have to do this every time I plug the phone back in or after reboot?
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Will this fix be permanent or will I have to do this every time I plug the phone back in or after reboot?
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The original thread stated it had to be done every time, but mine has stuck since I changed it using the method here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700601&highlight=battery.
One other thing to note: If you download the app in the Market called "Network", you can access the screen to change it without having to do the dialing or airplane mode thing. This would be the easiest way to do it if you happen to have to do it every time you reboot.
Final stats:
Uptime: 35:15
Awake Time: 5:15
This is about twice as good as I was getting before.
My battery had a full charge. I shut down the A7 (not standby), went to use it a day later and it wouldn't boot up.
Why would the battery drain while it's shut down? Anyone else experience this?
The only thing I can think of is the device was in sleep not shut down.
I have shut mine down after a full charge and then the next morning the full charge is still there.
If it keeps happening then something is wrong with the device.
Rob
Thanks, I am quite sure that I chose power off, but of course I'm not infallible.
I'm paying close attention (hold power button for 2 seconds, select "power off" not suspend), so I'll have to monitor the situation when I'm not using it as much.
By the way, last night after posting this thread, I shut off the Wifi and Bluetooth. I know those affect my phone's battery.
Does anyone else need to disable Wifi and Bluetooth? I don't recall it being in the manual.
I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?
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I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?
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I just discovered this "feature" this morning as well. -_-
Did u find how to fix this?
I love the feature where the A500's battery doesn't last overnight with the screen off. I didn't think I needed to charge it overnight since the battery was at 95% anyways, so I just set it on the table next to my bed and went to sleep. Woke up this morning and it wouldn't power on. Pretty cool. Wonder what is draining the battery? My DroidX can sit on the same table for almost a week w/o being charged.
I haven't seen it, then again I play music from getting into bed till I wake up so ill try leaving it to sleep and see what happens.
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Me too
Same issue here.
i have not tried the trick that I just found that seems to extend the batery life....I put the tablet in "airplane mode" , enable the WiFi and the battery looks like it is draining alot slower. There is power being used for "cell standby" even though is a wifi only tablet
Same problem here with shutdown on charge. Right now it seems fairly consistent-
I'm experiencing them same thing when leaving asleep for extended periods. It first happened while I was charging... now it happened again when I left for dinner and came back. I don't see any setting options for that
Same here. Thought it was a "feature" to keep from using as much battery.
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So shutting off notifications seems to stop the problem for me.. except that I don't get notifications At least it boots pretty fast
Lets run some tests, shall we?
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I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?
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I don't think they're shutting off, I think they're crashing/freezing during sleep and not rebooting.
This is speculation by me, and could be different for different people.
Finding the problem:
The test.
Night/Bedtime
This is an overnight/while you sleep test and requires about 2hrs. of your time beforehand. Record your figures if you can and post them for debunking. A couple hours before bed and while you use the tablet during the evening, charge it. After 100% and once it's off the charger please don't use it for anything. We want to simulate the sleep process for about 90m before bed. So if you use the tablet even for a quick web surf, plug it in and getting back to 100%. We're going to allow ~3% for errors anyway but we want to be as close to accurate as possible.
90m before you're ready for bed remove the charger. Don't use the tablet simply set the brightness to auto and take note of your battery level and the time. 60m in take a look at that battery charge again and record the time and charge level. 90m in is the last check and after this whether you go to bed or not please don't wake the tablet. Don't worry if it seems to wake and go back on it's own. That's inconsequential for this test. Just put it somewhere that no one will bother it and resist using it until you wake up. Please
Morning/Wake time
Wake it up.
1. Comes on? Record the charge level and time for posterity so we get an idea of idle drain here on the thread. Everyone gets different values. You'll have to run this test at another time as your shutdown/freeze hasn't been reproduced this time.
2. Doesn't come on? Try a power on press. Comes on? Same as 1. Record the charge level and time and post it here.
3. Doesn't come on? Try a power on press. Doesn't come on? Plug it in and power it on. Now do the same as 2. Record the charge level and time and post it here.
I hypothesize a few different scenarios the summary of which is that I don't think they're shutting down, but this is mostly based on the assumption that the batteries are being charged while the unit is frozen. If they do not charge then my entire test would have to be re-designed. I surmise they freeze and don't restart so they either run out of juice or they're actually frozen when you try to power them on and the long press is rebooting the unit, not powering it on. If I am right then we should see that the batteries are drained as if they have been on all night. This is going to be very imprecise, but my idea is that we'll take the charge % of your bedtime check which is a 60m mark check and just times that by the amt. of hours you were sleeping.
So if you were at 95% when you touched the tablet for the last time, this would mean a drain of ~5% give or take ~1% due to your use while checking, per hour. You take that and multiply it by how many hours you've slept and you'd get X x 5 = 40% which leaves the tablet with ~60% battery when you wake up, again give or take 3% for errors, syncing during the night etc.
If you're seeing a somewhat accurate numerical representation of this formula then it means the tab drained all night.
If you're seeing something way off like the tablet still having way more than it should then it means at some point in the night it really did shut down on its own.
People who are actually saying it shut off probably just reboot the tablet without realizing it as it was on the charger when it froze. Since a power off/reboot press of the power button is roughly the same length as a power on press, it's difficult to differentiate sometimes.
Solving the problem:
I have had this happen twice and it was while I left GPS on.
I haven't had an android cell phone yet that hasn't frozen or reboot itself when I left GPS on for extended periods (aka overnight) so the first time this happened I instantly knew to check and I purposely left it on the second time to reproduce and the second time, the tablet ended up rebooting not freezing. If you're not technical the easiest way to know if your tablet reboot during the night is to leave a web page or IM window on the screen or leave music playing.
You may want to skip the above "finding the problem" tests and attempt this "solving the problem" test. As I mentioned, this is all speculation so I'm just trying to get to the bottom of it and I'm sure we can as a grp.
Once you rule out hardware though, then it's a problem. So if it is indeed NOT the GPS then we're at the mercy of Acer and Google because otherwise there'd be just too many factors to track down.
I'm getting this and i'm loosing a ton of battery somewhere in the process too. I think the above poster is right.
I plug in tabby. go to bed. wake up to pee. see tabby is 100% battery. unplug and go back to bed. wake up to go to work and tabby is powered off completely and battery is anywhere between 85%-90% in a matter of 2-3 hours after being unplugged.
Its likely a rogue app I would get a program like advanced task killer watch it and see what apps are loading in background after you kill all apps.look for apps you installed.not so much the ones Acer put on your tab.
With Ti backup freeze the first one you think should not run give it a day.if that's not the issue keep going down the list.
Had a similar issue it was a app I got from amazon.that was So CALLED FREE.they are not so I uninstalled everything from amazon. No more battery drain.
SOME APPS do not fallow the drained android or social rules
Watching the apps to be sure nothing is running CPU cycles allow the time I loose about 2 to 3 % batter life over night with wifi set to stay awake.
This is ideally from 11 pm until around 10 am the fallowing day.
Yes I sleep in alot giggles
re-flashed with Taboonay v.2.0/Richardtrips v.3.3 Kernel and it fixed everything.
JiggaGeazY said:
re-flashed with Taboonay v.2.0/Richardtrips v.3.3 Kernel and it fixed everything.
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had this on my tab for 2 days and reflashed back to stock because battery life was awful.
Was having trouble with both issues, pulled battery with phone on, waited a minute, put battery back in, both problems fixed!
isnt this bad for the phone? Im having horrible battery life so I'll try anything but just wanna make sure
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isnt this bad for the phone? Im having horrible battery life so I'll try anything but just wanna make sure
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You wouldn't want do it if on a regular basis but you can try turning phone off, pulling battery out, putting it back in after a minute and if that doesn't work, try my method.
I would wait until the battery is super low and then reset network settings under the reset menu. Power down, pull battery and sim wait 30 sec to a minute and replace everything. Then plug in the phone first and then reboot. Let it charge completely and for about 20 minutes more after it reaches 100. If you do a lot of rebooting I have found the phone has issues. I only reboot with the phone plugged in, otherwise it drops 2% every reboot..
Be careful, I did that with a ZTE Zmax 2 once (75% charged battery) and it sent a phone into a bootloop. The only means of fixing it was that I luckily had a 2nd Zmax2 laying around and used its battery on the bootlooped phone which remedied the problem. Both batteries work fine , I just swapped them between the two phones.
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isnt this bad for the phone? Im having horrible battery life so I'll try anything but just wanna make sure
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I used to worry about this too. This is my first LG product and it MAY be different but at the Sprint store the first thing they would normally do is pull the nattery to look at the ESN. They never bothered to power it doen forst so I asked a couple times and was told it will mot hurt anything. I had Samsung products for uears and have done battery pulls at all levels of charge and for many reasons, but I never had a problem as long as the battery had enough juice left to boot the phone. If not I had to charge it, LoL.
Just thought I would share, I personally wouldn't worry.
I know on my old Nexus 6 pulling the battery with phone on was only an issue with fsync disabled using a custom kernel. I think most phones have built in protection to stop this from damaging the file system.
so a battery pull is your fix? lol some ppl should be hard resetting every so often regardlessi reboot at least once a day
hi
my v20 phone battery draining was about 1% per hour before (about 7% totally ) and recently increased to 2% during sleeping time overnight. (draining 15% overnight in sleeping state)
it seems that during day either performance off battery is decreased.(about 5h with wifi and screen on usage)
Fast charging while second screen is On , is slower than when it is off therefore when second screen is Off , fast charging goes better . exactly , first 30 mins fast charging makes about 40% battery charge(instead of 50%) and after 60 min leads to 85% and full charging taking place after about 100 min instead of 80 mins.
another important thing is that sometimes shades have been seen on the LCD that many users have complained about it.
phone information is :
Android security patch level: September 1, 2017
BASEBAND : MPSS.TH.2.0.1.c3-00045-M8996FAAAANAZM-1
KERNEL : 3.18.31
BUILD NUMBER : NRD90M
SOFTWARE VERSION : V10g-AME-XX
MODEL NUMBER : LG-H990ds
my actions are as follows :
phone is factory reseted. No third party apps is installed. [especially social media apps.]
battery calibration steps for not rooted phones is taken place.(turning off the phone and charging several times repeatedly).
testing battery drain in safe mode in done and didn't change results
turn off location services and location scanning for WiFi and Bluetooth scanning
turn off WiFi being On during screen is Off.
turn off auto sync, NFC, GPS etc.
not using auto brightness.
not using comfort view .
turn off location services and location scanning for WiFi and Bluetooth scanning
second screen is off during test overnight. (either with second screen is ON with faced down to lower brightness in other day test )
phone is in Air Plane Mode and all data services is off.
system apps like Google services and Play and Assistance is limited by permissions.
following are some advanced battery drain overnight figures of my phone for more analyzing.
any help with this issue is appreciated.
While I don't get extremely bad battery drain. The few times I've noticed it going down a bit faster than normal have had Android system at the top of the list or at least 2nd in place. A reboot usually fixes it for a while. This has happened in every ROM I've tried. Also I swear that stupid Wi-Fi scanning when WiFi is off option in locations settings turns itself on when it feels like it. I rarely turn my location on and I've checked a few times and that feature is on for whatever reason
Power down.
Pull battery.
Hold power button for one minute to discharge any juice that may be on the motherboard.
Let phone sit for 30 minutes.
Put battery back in.
Power up.
The motherboard and battery should now be re-calibrated. If you still have problems, try a new battery.