Need help with Stock NC4 - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have looked through these threads over and over but i just cant find this. I received a replacement phone over a week ago and since then i have not been able to get a custom rom to installed. Can someone help?
Here are the steps I have tried:
TowelRoot to get root
Safestrap Installed
Removed Knox with SuperSu
Rebooted to Safestrap
backup Stock Rom
Full Wipe and tried installing Custom KK NC2/NC4 Rom
After Samsung BootScreen i just get a black screen nothing else ever.
Then i tried after i restored my backup from SafeStrap by flashing NC2 Modem before i did the custom ROM and still Nothing.

I think you need to install busy box and the NC2 kernel. Follow the steps 1-10 in this thread...and use Jasmine ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760380

xxperrin said:
I think you need to install busy box and the NC2 kernel. Follow the steps 1-10 in this thread...and use Jasmine ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760380[/QUOTE
i did have busybox installed before i installing safestrap. The thing i was getting messed up on was that I knew being on a Ret Locked Bootloader Device didnt think we could install Kernels. and since i didnt see Kernels in the Modem/Firmware/Tar collection Thread I thought when mentioned to install the NC2 Kernal they were referring to NC2 modem.(i know that modem wouldnt stop a boot since it is just for radio signals but i guess im tired from to much work). But i did a search for NC2 Kernal and found it and now I am up and running. I didnt do Jasmine Rom but Im up.
Feels good to be back on custom roms. Can not stand Stock on Samsung. I just need to bite the bullet and get a Dev so i can get AOSP/k.
Thanks for pushing me in the right directions.
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I'm glad you are back up and running!

computerguydd said:
xxperrin said:
I think you need to install busy box and the NC2 kernel. Follow the steps 1-10 in this thread...and use Jasmine ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760380[/QUOTE
i did have busybox installed before i installing safestrap. The thing i was getting messed up on was that I knew being on a Ret Locked Bootloader Device didnt think we could install Kernels. and since i didnt see Kernels in the Modem/Firmware/Tar collection Thread I thought when mentioned to install the NC2 Kernal they were referring to NC2 modem.(i know that modem wouldnt stop a boot since it is just for radio signals but i guess im tired from to much work). But i did a search for NC2 Kernal and found it and now I am up and running. I didnt do Jasmine Rom but Im up.
Feels good to be back on custom roms. Can not stand Stock on Samsung. I just need to bite the bullet and get a Dev so i can get AOSP/k.
Thanks for pushing me in the right directions.
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so you did not use the unified tar that the post included? can you tell me where you got the nc2 modem? im currently in y our same state, i did all the steps for towelroot, SU, busybox, and safestrap, all is there and working, but when i make a rom slot and a install a rom in that slot the phone just boots and stays black.....i installed the alliance BTW, and its a no go.
i just want to do this cause i cant seem to get my vz note 3 to pick up T-mobile signal. i traded my iphone 5s for this and made $80 and now im stuck.....i though the note would work off the bat like the iphone did, which was verizon as well, my phone is on the latest 4.4.2 nc4 build......im just really lost caus nothing of what the posts mention to do work on my phone.....it just wont pick up signal....:crying:
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Use the stock ROM slot.

xxperrin said:
I think you need to install busy box and the NC2 kernel. Follow the steps 1-10 in this thread...and use Jasmine ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760380
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Thank you so much!!!! i WAS GOING CRAZY, thought I had lost my touch....
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kevace1 said:
computerguydd said:
so you did not use the unified tar that the post included? can you tell me where you got the nc2 modem? im currently in y our same state, i did all the steps for towelroot, SU, busybox, and safestrap, all is there and working, but when i make a rom slot and a install a rom in that slot the phone just boots and stays black.....i installed the alliance BTW, and its a no go.
i just want to do this cause i cant seem to get my vz note 3 to pick up T-mobile signal. i traded my iphone 5s for this and made $80 and now im stuck.....i though the note would work off the bat like the iphone did, which was verizon as well, my phone is on the latest 4.4.2 nc4 build......im just really lost caus nothing of what the posts mention to do work on my phone.....it just wont pick up signal....:crying:
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I'm about to install this. http://galaxynote3root.com/verizon-...to-install-custom-roms-on-verizon-note-3-nc4/
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[Q] SS 3.72 problem

I have an ATT Galaxy S4 and installed safestrap 3.72 no prob…flashed goldeneye no prob, used it for a cpl days then made a backup of it and tried to flash hyperdrive15 as directed by xda thread and when i rebooted just went black for a cpl mins and kept going back to safe strap so i tried to wipe again and install recovery first my golden eye backup(which i later learned was a no no on the stock rom) then my stock rom and getting i keep getting fail…something about unable to mount /system and /systemorig..so i tried advance wipe everything except extsd and also receive fail (unable to mount /system and /systemorig) only success is regular wipe but its not doing me any good. I know im a complete noob and probably did something stupid and also that you senior members hate stupid post here but please I really dont understand what happened....Also I have tried to flash golden eye rom over again and it is just going black and shutting off mid flash...I tried making a new rom slot to see if maybe i could just flash rom on new slot but no luck. I have looked EVERYWHERE and havent found anyone that has had this issue,lol which add to my feling of stupidity...ANY IDEAS???:crying:
omino323 said:
I have an ATT Galaxy S4 and installed safestrap 3.72 no prob…flashed goldeneye no prob, used it for a cpl days then made a backup of it and tried to flash hyperdrive15 as directed by xda thread and when i rebooted just went black for a cpl mins and kept going back to safe strap so i tried to wipe again and install recovery first my golden eye backup(which i later learned was a no no on the stock rom) then my stock rom and getting i keep getting fail…something about unable to mount /system and /systemorig..so i tried advance wipe everything except extsd and also receive fail (unable to mount /system and /systemorig) only success is regular wipe but its not doing me any good. I know im a complete noob and probably did something stupid and also that you senior members hate stupid post here but please I really dont understand what happened....Also I have tried to flash golden eye rom over again and it is just going black and shutting off mid flash...I tried making a new rom slot to see if maybe i could just flash rom on new slot but no luck. I have looked EVERYWHERE and havent found anyone that has had this issue,lol which add to my feling of stupidity...ANY IDEAS???:crying:
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You did not mention your phone firmware but based on your post, your firmware might be NB1 or NC1 since you said that you successfully installed the safestrap 3.72.
You did not mention which version of GE you flashed but I guess that might be GE28 or later. If you did, those roms are based on KitKat (android 4.4.2)
You flashed the hyperdrive15 which is written for jelly beam (android 4.3) based on the rom for the MK2 firmware.
GE rom installation for safestrap did not mention to install the rom in the different slot, so I guess you installed the GE rom in the stock slot.
Hyperdrive15 installation for safestrap mentioned to create/switch slot so you may or may not install the rom in the stock slot.
As far as I know, safestrap 3.72 does not support extra rom slot other than the stock rom slot. It appears that hyperdrive instructions were written for the safestrap 3.71.
May be that was your mistake.
My suggestion been odin the stock rom that corresponding to your firmware. Use tworl root to get rooted.
sway8966 said:
You did not mention your phone firmware but based on your post, your firmware might be NB1 or NC1 since you said that you successfully installed the safestrap 3.72.
You did not mention which version of GE you flashed but I guess that might be GE28 or later. If you did, those roms are based on KitKat (android 4.4.2)
You flashed the hyperdrive15 which is written for jelly beam (android 4.3) based on the rom for the MK2 firmware.
GE rom installation for safestrap did not mention to install the rom in the different slot, so I guess you installed the GE rom in the stock slot.
Hyperdrive15 installation for safestrap mentioned to create/switch slot so you may or may not install the rom in the stock slot.
As far as I know, safestrap 3.72 does not support extra rom slot other than the stock rom slot. It appears that hyperdrive instructions were written for the safestrap 3.71.
May be that was your mistake.
My suggestion been odin the stock rom that corresponding to your firmware. Use tworl root to get rooted.
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Thank you so much SWAY...that what i did and just started back over...you were right i was running nc1 and had GE35....so to explain the reason i used hyperdrive15 was bc i tried 17 and on first boot it stayed on boot animation for 30+mins so i figured something was wrong and shut it down...and i was also very confused bc it says to falsh correct compatibilty pack and the only one i found is for 15...am i wrong? is there one for 17 or do i just use the one for 15?...thank you again
omino323 said:
Thank you so much SWAY...that what i did and just started back over...you were right i was running nc1 and had GE35....so to explain the reason i used hyperdrive15 was bc i tried 17 and on first boot it stayed on boot animation for 30+mins so i figured something was wrong and shut it down...and i was also very confused bc it says to falsh correct compatibilty pack and the only one i found is for 15...am i wrong? is there one for 17 or do i just use the one for 15?...thank you again
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I do not know much about the Hyperdrive since I am a GE user. Also, Hyperdrive 17 mentioned that it would work for the ATT phone but 17 is posted only the Verizon forum.
For the ATT phone with NC1 firmware the steps for flashing the custom rom involves - 1)flash the rom, 2)flash the NC1 kernel module and 3) flash the supersu.
The correct compatibility pack might be referring to the kernel module, I guess. In that case, the pack for 15 might be written for the MK2 kernel module and it might not work with your NC1 firmware.
sway8966 said:
I do not know much about the Hyperdrive since I am a GE user. Also, Hyperdrive 17 mentioned that it would work for the ATT phone but 17 is posted only the Verizon forum.
For the ATT phone with NC1 firmware the steps for flashing the custom rom involves - 1)flash the rom, 2)flash the NC1 kernel module and 3) flash the supersu.
The correct compatibility pack might be referring to the kernel module, I guess. In that case, the pack for 15 might be written for the MK2 kernel module and it might not work with your NC1 firmware.
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Is the kernel module the att module that they say to flash to make sure wifi works or is it something else? if so any ideas on where i can find it?
again thank you for taking the time to help me...
omino323 said:
Is the kernel module the att module that they say to flash to make sure wifi works or is it something else? if so any ideas on where i can find it?
again thank you for taking the time to help me...
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Yes. The kernel module is the att module needed to get WiFi working. It can be found after extracting the download from the deadly venom KitKat magic tool thread.
jmjoyas said:
Yes. The kernel module is the att module needed to get WiFi working. It can be found after extracting the download from the deadly venom KitKat magic tool thread.
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thank you so much! okay so just to make completely sure...to flash hyperdrive17 just flash rom, flash module, and flash su?
Again thank you so much!
omino323 said:
thank you so much! okay so just to make completely sure...to flash hyperdrive17 just flash rom, flash module, and flash su?
Again thank you so much!
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Yes. That should work.

Questions about nc2... nc4

Just got my note 3 yesterday and I am no stranger to rooting, roms and everything in between. However I've never owned a Samsung phone before either so I need some help. I've been reading through the forums but things are still a bit fuzzy. I am assuming my phone is on nc4 according to what my settings say. 4.4.2. I rooted using towel root and such is up and running. Safe strap installed. I have also downloaded Odin and a stock 4.4.2 system image file for a restore if need be. Now do I need to flash a nc2 kernel before I flash any roms? How is that done? And my model is smn900v. Which is OK to flash miui for smn900 models right? V just meaning Verizon correct? Thanks for any and all help!
cconcepts said:
Just got my note 3 yesterday and I am no stranger to rooting, roms and everything in between. However I've never owned a Samsung phone before either so I need some help. I've been reading through the forums but things are still a bit fuzzy. I am assuming my phone is on nc4 according to what my settings say. 4.4.2. I rooted using towel root and such is up and running. Safe strap installed. I have also downloaded Odin and a stock 4.4.2 system image file for a restore if need be. Now do I need to flash a nc2 kernel before I flash any roms? How is that done? And my model is smn900v. Which is OK to flash miui for smn900 models right? V just meaning Verizon correct? Thanks for any and all help!
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I'm at work now but give me a few hours and I'll give you a detailed answer.
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Thanks man I greatly appreciate it!
cconcepts said:
Thanks man I greatly appreciate it!
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Okay, I'm assuming you're on NC4 since you used Towelroot. You can flash roms but since the bootloader is locked no CM, AOSP, AOKP or Miui as far as I know. No custom kernels yet either so don't try to run any apps that change the governor or CPU frequencies. It may happen in time but not yet...:fingers-crossed:
Beans has a guide here and roms in this link read the first two posts : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787627
Modems, you're on the NC4 modem but we can change modems even though our bootloader is locked. You flash them in Odin. Put your phone in download mode and flash the modem in the ap slot. Modems can be found here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47400062&postcount=1
You may want to stay on the NC4 modem. I took the NC2 leak from 4.3 and that modem didn't work well for me at all. I'm on NC2 with the NC4 modem. Modems depend on your phone and your location. Some people haven't seen a difference in NC2 vs NC4, some people went all the way back to the MJE modem. It's something you have to try for yourself but if your signal is good then leave it.
You put on safestrap so you're good there. Don't even try clockwork mod or rom manager. Safestrap is cool in the fact that you have rom slots. You can put roms in different slots and switch back and forth with wiping and reflashing. Kinda like dual booting your computer with OS X and bootcamp or Windows and Linux. Right now the rom slots work but people have had battery issues using anything but the stock rom slot so for right now use the stock rom slot and it's like old school flashing, there can be only one for now (Highlander reference). As of right I wouldn't dirty flash anything make sure it's a clean wipe.
Next, the rom you chose to use is pure personal preference, they're all good just make sure you read the OP and browse the threads to get an idea. If you get stuck just post a question. The crowd for the Note 3 has been the most courteous and helpful since I've been on XDA.
Welcome to the funhouse!!!
Thank you again. Any more questions I'll post em here.
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Thank you again. Any more questions I'll post em here.
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No problem at all, have fun... ?
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My main concern was bootlooping with flashing roms on nc4. I thought I read that somewhere a few different times.
cconcepts said:
My main concern was bootlooping with flashing roms on nc4. I thought I read that somewhere a few different times.
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You should be fine, alot of the bootloops come from being on Nc2 and hitting reboot to recovery on the power menu. There's a fix for it but I just haven't done it yet. If safestrap is on and working properly just reboot your phone and wait for the safestrap screen and hit the recovery button. If you bootloop hitting reboot to recovery just pull the battery. Reboot to download mode and reboot to system from there.
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I was told on beans thread I need to flash the nc2 kernel before any roms. Now I'm getting confused. Lol
Just tried biggins rom in slot 1 after making a backup and it hung after Safe strap boot screen. Had to pull battery and switch back to stock slot and reboot. Something isn't right....
cconcepts said:
Just tried biggins rom in slot 1 after making a backup and it hung after Safe strap boot screen. Had to pull battery and switch back to stock slot and reboot. Something isn't right....
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Did you use the nc2 firmware package in his OP? Also in reading his Op he says flash it in the stock rom slot. Even though Hashcode has working rom slots I still think they're not functioning like they should.
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thegamerdarkseid said:
Did you use the nc2 firmware package in his OP? Also in reading his Op he says flash it in the stock rom slot. Even though Hashcode has working rom slots I still think they're not functioning like they should.
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I figured I didn't need the nc2 firmware. That's what I was wondering about. If I need to flash that after flashing roms.
Never mind I feel like an idiot. ..lol I didn't dl the rom through his post but from another site and it said nothing about nc2 firmware. Lol I just read his post......
cconcepts said:
Never mind I feel like an idiot. ..lol I didn't dl the rom through his post but from another site and it said nothing about nc2 firmware. Lol I just read his post......
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It happens, at least it was just a boot problem and not a brick. To be on the safe side always download from the thread... ?. Plus he said try the stock slot instead of slot 1.
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[Q] Can I install bootstrap 3.75 on KK NC4 ?

I see it mentioned that I can use bootstrap 3.75 on KK NC2, but it's unclear if it works on NC4 ?
This for n900v model
I installed 3.71 but it never goes into recovery. When I tell it to reboot into recovery it locks up and I have to do a battery pull.
Figured I ask before I screw it up.
Can't post int he dev forum since I don't have enough postings yet.
thanks
az_r2d1 said:
I see it mentioned that I can use bootstrap 3.75 on KK NC2, but it's unclear if it works on NC4 ?
This for n900v model
I installed 3.71 but it never goes into recovery. When I tell it to reboot into recovery it locks up and I have to do a battery pull.
Figured I ask before I screw it up.
Can't post int he dev forum since I don't have enough postings yet.
thanks
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You can use SafeStrap on both, NC2 and NC4. The Reboot into Recovery appears to have been resolved for some, just make sure you follow Hashcode's directions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
Happy Flashing :good:
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shaggy_kobain said:
You can use SafeStrap on NC2, yes. The Reboot into Recovery appears to have been resolved for some, just make sure you follow Hashcode's directions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
Happy Flashing :good:
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I know it works on NC2, but what about NC4? I have NC4
az_r2d1 said:
I know it works on NC2, but what about NC4? I have NC4
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I corrected my original post after I realized I forgot to include NC4.... it does support BOTH.
az_r2d1 said:
I know it works on NC2, but what about NC4? I have NC4
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If you read the OP for Safestrap it says you can use it on both but only NC2 supports rom slots, however you can use the stock slot on NC4.
kinstre11 said:
If you read the OP for Safestrap it says you can use it on both but only NC2 supports rom slots, however you can use the stock slot on NC4.
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I installed it and all went well.
I was able to create ROM-slot-1.. is that what you refer to ?
Seems to work ok now.
I was just going off of what the OP said. I don't run multiple roms so I've never tried after upgrading to kitkat. I know you can create a rom slot on NC4 but I'm not sure if toms actually install or not. Good luck.
kinstre11 said:
I was just going off of what the OP said. I don't run multiple roms so I've never tried after upgrading to kitkat. I know you can create a rom slot on NC4 but I'm not sure if toms actually install or not. Good luck.
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Well, I installed 3.75 and it installs except I can not boot off of slot-1. It just freezes. Had to revert back to stock rom booting.
Hope a newer safestrap will resolve this.
az_r2d1 said:
Well, I installed 3.75 and it installs except I can not boot off of slot-1. It just freezes. Had to revert back to stock rom booting.
Hope a newer safestrap will resolve this.
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You have to install your ROM to the stock slot, as was repeatedly stated above.

Samsung Galaxy Note 3 N900V 4.4.2

Samsung Galaxy Note 3 N900V 4.4.2
Im really confused on rooting this thing.
Just got it last night and cant wait to get rid of all this bloatware!!!
Anyway,I'm reading sooo many different things here...Can root, can't root, cant install custom roms...Im not sure what I can do. All the tuts Ive seen so far are one devices wiht firmware lower than 4.4.2. Am I better off waing. Thanks
20phileagles said:
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 N900V 4.4.2
Im really confused on rooting this thing.
Just got it last night and cant wait to get rid of all this bloatware!!!
Anyway,I'm reading sooo many different things here...Can root, can't root, cant install custom roms...Im not sure what I can do. All the tuts Ive seen so far are one devices wiht firmware lower than 4.4.2. Am I better off waing. Thanks
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Go here: https://towelroot.com
Download towel root app and install. You are now rooted. Install safe strap 3.75 from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
Now you have custom recovery. You can now install custom TW rooms from the VZ android development thread.
^^^^this but if you have NC4 out the box Jasmine Rom is the only one that supports NC4 kernel. You can odin the NC2 kernel and flash any TouchWiz rom.
You can do it I did no problems, easy as it can get. Also install Super SU and busybox, don't forget to run them.
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figured it out thanks
neopolotin75 said:
^^^^this but if you have NC4 out the box Jasmine Rom is the only one that supports NC4 kernel. You can odin the NC2 kernel and flash any TouchWiz rom.
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it is NC4 and the only safe strap i see is NC2, is it cool to install the NC2??
BTW The root worked fine, Thanks, I just need to verify that I can use NC2
20phileagles said:
figured it out thanks
it is NC4 and the only safe strap i see is NC2, is it cool to install the NC2??
BTW The root worked fine, Thanks, I just need to verify that I can use NC2
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Safe strap will work just make sure you install busy box 1st then the KK safestrap.
neopolotin75 said:
Safe strap will work just make sure you install busy box 1st then the KK safestrap.
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Im confused, post #2 don't say nothing about busy box but the post #6 say install busy box before KK safe strap..i search in the play store for busy box but there are a different ones. What is the one that i need.any link would help..thanks..
android-incredible said:
Im confused, post #2 don't say nothing about busy box but the post #6 say install busy box before KK safe strap..i search in the play store for busy box but there are a different ones. What is the one that i need.any link would help..thanks..
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After you run towel root and you're rooted you then install busy box then safe strap. Most custom roms have busy box installed already.

[Q] Proper Rooting and SafeStrap Process NC4

Okay so I've been browsing through the forums and been reading up on this phone (even contacted Samsung about info on unlocking the bootloader, no go on that. Had to try though)
Basically I want to know what's the proper procedure for installing custom roms on an NC4 device 4.4.2
Things I know:
Bootloader is unlockable at the moment (hoping for some good news in the future)
Towelroot for rooting
Safestrap for recovery
(Both just download and install the apk)
Things I don't know:
Kernel?
Somebody said I had to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin?
Knox?
What is this? What trips it?
I did see the list of guides and I did read and watch all the necessary ones, but the date on those are from 2 years ago and I just need confirmation on if I'm going about this right.
Any help is appreciated. I thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.
Please excuse my lack of knowledge, this is my first Samsung device.
Also, what would happen if somebody were to flash the DE stock files via Odin to a Retail N3?
If you upgraded to NC4 or NK1, you're stuck until Samsung unlocks the bootloader or Verizon stops lying to their customers. There is no root available after upgrade at this moment in time.
Dravekx said:
If you upgraded to NC4 or NK1, you're stuck until Samsung unlocks the bootloader or Verizon stops lying to their customers. There is no root available after upgrade at this moment in time.
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I didn't upgrade to NC4, it came like this.
rdar_93 said:
I didn't upgrade to NC4, it came like this.
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That sucks. You can't do anything about it at the moment. I was forced to upgrade and lost root. Custom ROMs won't be available to you or me until someone finds a hole to unlock the bootloader. Welcome to our Verizon Note 3 rooting dilemma.
mirrin said:
You do not have a dev version so cm 11 or 12 is a far off dream you won't get. Your bootloader is locked there is no unlock.
You are in luck nc4 is root able using towel root then safe strap and the unified firmware. You will need odin and a pc for flashing a few things the NK1 modem towel root and the unified firmware. Pick a rom from the development thread i suggest jasmine 1.x or eclipse.
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Copied from another post I had.
I don't know much about the device which is why I'm trying to find out.
Dravekx said:
That sucks. You can't do anything about it at the moment. I was forced to upgrade and lost root. Custom ROMs won't be available to you or me until someone finds a hole to unlock the bootloader. Welcome to our Verizon Note 3 rooting dilemma.
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I actually just got root on my phone, I felt adventurous and installed towelroot and voila it rooted my phone.
I should state that I'm on 4.4.2, not 4.4.4.
Checked root status with Titanium Backup Pro, everything checked out a-okay.
rdar_93 said:
Okay so I've been browsing through the forums and been reading up on this phone (even contacted Samsung about info on unlocking the bootloader, no go on that. Had to try though)
Basically I want to know what's the proper procedure for installing custom roms on an NC4 device 4.4.2
Things I know:
Bootloader is unlockable at the moment (hoping for some good news in the future)
Towelroot for rooting
Safestrap for recovery
(Both just download and install the apk)
Things I don't know:
Kernel?
Somebody said I had to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin?
Knox?
What is this? What trips it?
I did see the list of guides and I did read and watch all the necessary ones, but the date on those are from 2 years ago and I just need confirmation on if I'm going about this right.
Any help is appreciated. I thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.
Please excuse my lack of knowledge, this is my first Samsung device.
Also, what would happen if somebody were to flash the DE stock files via Odin to a Retail N3?
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Ahhhh... You're good to go then! Find a good custom ROM and follow the instructions. Whatever you do.. Don't upgrade!
rdar_93 said:
I actually just got root on my phone, I felt adventurous and installed towelroot and voila it rooted my phone.
I should state that I'm on 4.4.2, not 4.4.4.
Checked root status with Titanium Backup Pro, everything checked out a-okay.
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Dravekx said:
Ahhhh... You're good to go then! Find a good custom ROM and follow the instructions. Whatever you do.. Don't upgrade!
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Lol I still need clarification on the Kernel information that I don't know about.
What do I need to flash?
Do I flash it after I install a custom rom or before?
rdar_93 said:
Lol I still need clarification on the Kernel information that I don't know about.
What do I need to flash?
Do I flash it after I install a custom rom or before?
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My opinion: If you're doing a custom kernel, make sure it works with whatever ROM you're flashing. I suggest sticking with the stock kernel* until you get the hang of things OR do a little research and learn a bit before you attempt anything. There's a lot of forums with details and help here. I've installed kernels before and after installing ROMs with little or zero problems, but I'm more of a dabbler than a professional.
I would suggest backing up your current setup in case you need to reflash. That's a definite.
Dravekx said:
My opinion: If you're doing a custom kernel, make sure it works with whatever ROM you're flashing. I suggest sticking with the stock kernel* until you get the hang of things OR do a little research and learn a bit before you attempt anything. There's a lot of forums with details and help here. I've installed kernels before and after installing ROMs with little or zero problems, but I'm more of a dabbler than a professional.
I would suggest backing up your current setup in case you need to reflash. That's a definite.
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Lol that doesn't really answer the question. I hope somebody sees it and clears it up for me
rdar_93 said:
Lol that doesn't really answer the question. I hope somebody sees it and clears it up for me
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The kernel can't be changed...although it can be "tuned" if you have root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=58813428
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Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
rdar_93 said:
Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
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It really depends on the ROM, there is no set guide for all ROMs.
Did you install busybox? I like using busybox on rails. Just download the app and click install.
Download the safestrap apk (3.75 B04) and install that, open it and install recovery.
I'm currently running Clean ROM. I am on NC4. I downloaded the rom, and moved it to my SD card. I rebooted to safestrap, wiped data, cache and dalvik then installed the ROM to the stock slot. Then, following the instructions for Clean ROM, I rebooted to download mode from recovery and flashed the NC2 Kernel with odin.
The main thing is to read the installation instructions for the particular ROM you want to flash.
Don't forget to use Titanium backup to freeze SDM app (I think that's what its called) so your phone will stop trying to update.
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rdar_93 said:
Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
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If you're at all proficient with Odin it is really REALLY hard to brick these phones.
BladeRunner said:
It really depends on the ROM, there is no set guide for all ROMs.
Did you install busybox? I like using busybox on rails. Just download the app and click install.
Download the safestrap apk (3.75 B04) and install that, open it and install recovery.
I'm currently running Clean ROM. I am on NC4. I downloaded the rom, and moved it to my SD card. I rebooted to safestrap, wiped data, cache and dalvik then installed the ROM to the stock slot. Then, following the instructions for Clean ROM, I rebooted to download mode from recovery and flashed the NC2 Kernel with odin.
The main thing is to read the installation instructions for the particular ROM you want to flash.
Don't forget to use Titanium backup to freeze SDM app (I think that's what its called) so your phone will stop trying to update.
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If you're at all proficient with Odin it is really REALLY hard to brick these phones.
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Thanks man, I was supposed to update this thread saying that I got through with the proper procedure for installing Jasmine Rom
Although I was running Eclipse before, and I wanted to try going back to stock but it just got stuck on the Verizon splash screen
I'm thinking it's because I had the NC2 kernel active when I should have gone back to the NC4 kernel
I looked for a NC4 kernel to flash but I only saw the modems and tar files, so not knowing if those were the same as kernels I decided to just try Jasmine. So far, I like it.
I have crazy battery drain though. I think it's because I'm running it in Slot 1
just picked up a verizon note 3 android 4.4.2 NC4
one of the very first posts above says you cant do anything on NC4 and then another post says NC4 is ok but just not android 4.4.4
NC4 is the latest update as of this writing isnt it?
what can actually be done with this vzw note 3 on android 4.4.2 NC4?
non dev edition of course
what about knox?
if rooting can be done with this phone on this OS is there any safe way not to trip knox?
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just picked up a verizon note 3 android 4.4.2 NC4
one of the very first posts above says you cant do anything on NC4 and then another post says NC4 is ok but just not android 4.4.4
NC4 is the latest update as of this writing isnt it?
what can actually be done with this vzw note 3 on android 4.4.2 NC4?
non dev edition of course
what about knox?
if rooting can be done with this phone on this OS is there any safe way not to trip knox?
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I'd be happy to answer your questions
If you have an NC4 device that's running 4.4.2, you are able to gain root access and install safestrap recovery on your device. However, if the android version is 4.4.4, you cannot root or install safestrap.
NC4 is just our last build number, but there are two versions I think, the 4.4.2 and the 4.4.4. In the 4.4.4, they blacklisted every single compatible kernel that could work on the device. They forgot to do it in the 4.4.2 version, that's why we're able to gain root.
On our NC4 4.4.2 Verizon Note 3, we can root, install safestrap recovery and install a very limited amount of roms from the non developer edition selection on the XDA forums.
Rooting via towelroot, to my knowledge, does not trip knox. However, installing safestrap recovery does. But if you're worried about your warranty being voided, I wouldn't panic too much because with our bootloader being locked, it is very easy to flash the original Stock Verizon files through Odin to go straight back to factory settings so it looks like if you just pulled it out the box. The knox code would be reset and you would have a device that looked like if it has never been rooted or modified.
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I'd be happy to answer your questions
If you have an NC4 device that's running 4.4.2, you are able to gain root access and install safestrap recovery on your device. However, if the android version is 4.4.4, you cannot root or install safestrap.
NC4 is just our last build number, but there are two versions I think, the 4.4.2 and the 4.4.4. In the 4.4.4, they blacklisted every single compatible kernel that could work on the device. They forgot to do it in the 4.4.2 version, that's why we're able to gain root.
On our NC4 4.4.2 Verizon Note 3, we can root, install safestrap recovery and install a very limited amount of roms from the non developer edition selection on the XDA forums.
Rooting via towelroot, to my knowledge, does not trip knox. However, installing safestrap recovery does. But if you're worried about your warranty being voided, I wouldn't panic too much because with our bootloader being locked, it is very easy to flash the original Stock Verizon files through Odin to go straight back to factory settings so it looks like if you just pulled it out the box. The knox code would be reset and you would have a device that looked like if it has never been rooted or modified.
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Safestrap does not trip knox.
mjh68 said:
Safestrap does not trip knox.
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Thanks. I must have tripped mine somehow cause my device says "custom" when booting.
I'm guessing it might be Xposed but I'm not too sure.
rdar_93 said:
Thanks. I must have tripped mine somehow cause my device says "custom" when booting.
I'm guessing it might be Xposed but I'm not too sure.
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It will say custom, but that isn't tripping knox. Custom can be removed with the triangle away app. Custom just gets flagged like you were saying by changing the recovery , but it doesn't trip the knox counter.
mjh68 said:
It will say custom, but that isn't tripping knox. Custom can be removed with the triangle away app. Custom just gets flagged like you were saying by changing the recovery , but it doesn't trip the knox counter.
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Then I must be confused about what knox really is.
What is "Knox" then?

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