Hello all,
I'm pretty new to all this Android stuff...and forum stuff, for that matter. Your patience is appreciated.
I have a SG Note 3.
I've been learning a bit about battery drain issues and how I can mitigate some of them by shutting down apps in different ways, and have recently been messing around a bit in the application manager and turning off some of the "bloatware" in there.
I live in quite a rural setting, on the fringes of cell reception. There are a couple of different reasons why I am interested to know if it's possible to turn off the phone app when I know that my phone will not have good reception (which causes it to constantly search harder for a signal, thus draining the battery PDQ) but I don't want to power down the device....For instance, when I'm out on my boat, or hiking/camping where there is little or no signal, and I want to use the GPS-related apps.
In the application manager, for some apps you have the choice to 'turn off', and for others the only option is to 'force stop'. The warning prompt that appears somehow seems more ominous for the 'force stop' option. Perhaps I'm just more cautious about 'forcing' any function because of my son having warned me years ago, with computer related issues, about how it's to be used as a last resort, and using it too often is potentially flirting with disaster.
I do NOT want to root my phone, as I don't trust my level of understanding with these types of thing. If it comes down to buying another battery or two and a charger for them and rotating them in and out of the phone, I suppose I may resort to such a PITA, but hopefully some better ideas come up here.
Thanks in advance,
Bruce
Disabling the phone app won't help. What you need to do is turn on airplane mode, then turn on the radios you want on individually (wifi, bt, etc). On stock at least, it'll leave the cellular connection off, and turn on the individual selections until you turn off airplane mode.
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First of all, you guys doing the development for our devices are simply amazing. By improving the usability of our pda phones you are actually significantly improving the quality of day to day life (at least for me personally). It's a big deal, so thank you for all your work.
I don't post very often, but I lurk every day and generally have no issues to post about, but now one has come about that I need some help with.
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So I just began using Chainfire's WMWifiRouter yesterday for the first time, and it works perfectly for me. To be able to wirelessly tether multiple laptops is an unbelievably useful and cool capability. One of the features built in which is a very welcome one is also causing me a problem.
As you all know (if you've used the program) it is set up to keep the wifi active if you hit the power button and put the device in standby.
My issue is that it seems that the change it makes to keep the wifi active in standby doesn't revert to the default setting when the program is closed. So when I'm not using the program and I am connected to a wifi network in my house, and I press the power button, the battery is still draining very fast. Normally I can keep it in standby all day just waiting for calls to come in to wake it up and the battery will barely go down. But today I put it in standby and try to turn it on a couple hours later and it's completely dead.
It is just my assumption that the problem is caused by what I described because using this program is the only new thing I've begun doing since yesterday before the problem existed. Soft reset doesn't change anything, and the "crash cleanup" option doesn't help.
Can anyone confirm that I am correct in my assumption of the cause of the problem? Or any other ideas of what could be causing it? Just to be clear, I'm using a version that came with my rom (Colonel's 12-28-07 custom rom for the sprint mogul) and it is an older verion, v.081. I would try the newest version, but I couldn't find any details on the website about how much it costs once the trial is over.
Thanks a lot if anyone can help, I'd appreciate any bits of insight even if you're not completely sure.
THANK YOU!
So, no one has any thoughts on this?
It is becoming quite annoying to have to turn off the wifi in the comm manager every time I put the phone into standby just so it's not dead in an hour and a half.
Also, if I leave the wifi on and hit the power button, when I turn it back on the symbol shows the wifi connection still active but when trying to stream a radio station or open a browser it won't connect, and I have to turn off and back on the wifi to get a new working connection.
I'd just like to know if any of the other thousands of wmwifirouter users have the same experience, or just haven't noticed it or what.
Thanks.
Mogulus: Please try my Wifi Profiles -option Wifi Power->Normal Mode in menu.
BINGO!!!
Your program absolutely did the trick, thank you so much.
The only other suggestion I got was to flip off the wifi switch before entering standby and flipping it back on when returning from standby. Well that is simple enough but when you're picking the thing up every few minutes to check a random thing that pops in your head, that extra step gets so annoying.
Again, thanks a lot, you can expect a donation from me.
Thank you!!
Mogulust:
You are welcome
And Your suggestion - added to tasklist
Ok, although I do not have a solution it seems that their are a small percentage of people on here that have the same problem as me.
This is what I know:
The EVO has a bigger display, a faster proccessor, 4G, and alot of advanced features this means battery is not going to be the greatest.
However, I am now rooted running CM6 RC2, and although I love this ROM I have been having terrible battery. Also, I was using Fresh's and stock unrooted ROM and had bad battery also, AFTER I PUT IN ALL MY SETTINGS.
When I would hard reset my phone, it would sleep like normal, and the battery would run great, however, I think their is a setting that I use with my phone that is keeping it awake.
Now I am going to give all the settings that I use on my phone without installing any apps from the market. Because I know some apps keep your phone awake but I did a factory reset, put in my settings without installing any apps and my phone stayed awake.
***I have already tried the HTC and Sprint method of "conditioning your battery" I know their are 2 methods I have done both. I have setCPU, juice defender, spare parts, all that stuff that supposedly saves battery, but so far none have helped. Also my phone is set to auto CDMA, i tried that*****
Here is what I think. I am changing some setting in the phone that is keeping it awake and I can't seem to find what it is, I had this same problem with google sync setting and thankfully someone helped me fix it and it solved the problem however, after that I am still having the issue.
Keep in mind I HAVE NOT INSTALLED ANYTHING FROM THE MARKET YET, I have only entered my settings in apps that came with the phone because I believe that is the culprit.
My settings
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Battery history, since last unplugged
running: 14.6%
Screen on: 10.4%
Phone on: 3.5%
Wireless and network
Airplane mode, wifi, bluetooth, tethering and portable hot spot VPN are all off
Under Mobile network
The options are: data enabled: Checked
data roaming: unchecked
System select (change the cdma roaming guide) options are either home only, affiliated networks, or automatic. I have automatic set.
Voicemail service my carrier
Nothing in the CM6 settings have been changed
Auto brightness, screen timeout 30 sec
Location: wireless network:checked
Use GPS sattelite: unchecked
Accounts and Sync:
Background data: enabled (checked)
auto sync: Enabled (checked)
Facebook-sync if off, I have not synced contacts with Facebook, and the problem I had last time was with google sync, I had google sync turned off and that kept my phone on. Now I have facebook sync turned off, COULD THAT BE THE PROBLEM?
Privacy: Back up my data-checked
automatic restore-checked
Mail settings, never update, I manually update.
News and weather is same thing, could google be trying to update even though its set not too and keep my phone awake?
Under facebook settings: refresh interval is set to never
Notifications are inactive.
About phone
Cell standby:37%
Phone idle:28%
Android system:20%
Voice calls:11%
Display:7%
If anything looks not right, or you think something as little as it may be may be causing the problem, even if it doesn't make sense please suggest it, I have tried everything, thanks.
Not to burst your bubble, but it's been pretty much proven that CM6 has unsatisfactory battery life.
Try Burnt Droid v1 + netarchy-toastmod kernel for optimum battery life.
I know,
but after reading through the thread it seems that about half of them half pretty good battery life, however I had poor battery with other roms, because something was keeping my phone awake.
I'm having a similar problem. On any ROM that's based of HTC's 2.2, my phone will run fine for about a day and then it will begin to stop sleeping. Once that happens the only way to get it to stop is to do a factory reset. What's funny is that using the exact same settings with CM6-RC2 I don't get the 100% awake issue. I've tried everything and can't figure it out.
I've tried turning off all automatic syncing, turning off network time and network location...didn't work. I deleted my Exchange account since I had heard that some people were having Exchange problems...didn't help. This last time around I didn't install anything from the market, it was just the stock apps. I did connect the phone to Sync in my truck and used it quite a bit before the problem cropped up.
I've got a sneaking suspicion that it's some kind background process that tries to run after a specified amount of time, but there's some kind of problem with the Sense-based ROMs that I've tried that won't allow it to run properly. So we need to figure out what the process is and either stop it from running in the first place, or figure out a way to take it out of the ROM so it isn't there to begin with.
I'm going to wipe everything and try installing Fresh 3.1.0.2 again. I'm going to try to remember to reboot my phone every night when I plug it in to charge and see if that helps. While it isn't ideal, it's way easier than having to do a factory reset every other day. I'll post back and let everyone know what happens.
Today for the first time since I got my G2 a few of weeks back I used Maps to double check my location in an area I'm not overly familiar with. So I toggled Location Access on, found where I was via GPS, then turned it off. All good so far.
However, later in the day, noticing that the battery was dropping quicker than you'd expect, I looked in the battery stats and saw that Maps was consuming a extremely large percentage (nearly 50%!). I tried a force stop but that didn't seem to have any real effect. I re-checked Location Access, all off, didn't seem to be any other option.
So what's the deal, is it a G2 thing (I'm currently on rooted stock 4.2.2), a general Android problem or Maps misbehaving? More importantly what, bar a reboot or not using Maps, is the solution? Do I need to buy the enhanced versions of Titanium Backup and Greenify to effectively put Maps into stasis or is there a more elegant way of doing it?
A quick, inconvenience way to solve this issue is rebooting the phone.
votinh said:
A quick, inconvenience way to solve this issue is rebooting the phone.
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Ok. Is it Maps bug or something specific to the G2?
Honestly, I have no clue.
I turn off location reporting to save battery. If you are on an AT&T Rom Carrier IQ could be the problem.
Greenify?
I have the same problem! Even greenified it, but it says still draining battery. The only way is to reboot!
Any help?
I'm using Cloudy stock 2.0
So, here's my issue: I started to notice that bluetooth audio, which was usually good, started to suddenly cut in and out. At the same time, my battery life went to pot, and the top battery sucker was the Bluetooth share. I also noticed that the phone got really hot and very slow when charging when all of this was happening (usually I don't have to worry about the phone getting super hot when charging and using bluetooth).
I installed BBS and GSAM, and they both basically told me that the phone was not going to sleep because the bluetooth share was keeping it away. I even tried installing Naptime, and the phone still refuses to go into deep sleep, and the bluetooth share keeps sucking battery.
So here's what I've done so far...
- Uninstalled recent apps, no change
- Clear Bluetooth share, restart phone, no change
- Unpair all bluetooth devices, no change
- Restart phone (several times), no change
- Start the phone in safe mode, phone behaves normally....
In the course of trying to figure out what's going on, I basically uninstalled every app and the bluetooth share was still keeping my phone awake.
The only way I've found that fixes this issue is to completely format the phone and reinstall stock firmware. And I don't mean just to fastboot flash system system.img, I mean I have to fastboot erase system and then flash the system in order for bluetooth to behave. After I do this, and reinstall all my usual apps (I allow Google to download them, then I use titanium backup to restore the data on apps that don't sync their own data), the phone works brilliantly for about a week and a half, then the ordeal starts all over again.
The only thing I haven't tried is going bone stock... when I reinstall my phone I root and put Frankenclar on it. I used to use Xposed, but I tried going without to see if that made a difference... and, nope. Even without Xposed the bluetooth share keeps the phone awake.
I've started going through the steps to contact Moto, but they may balk because I've unlocked my phone (even though the warranty says valid).
Any ideas??
Oh, I'm on Verizon, so my choice of roms are limited... and I really like the wake on approach, twist for camera, chop for flashlight, and being able to call to my phone when the screen is off and it's not charging.
Thanks for your time!
Okay, so for anyone else who may be having an issue like this... here was my problem:
After doing a lot of searching online, I discovered that the CVS app was causing the issue. Apparently CVS uses bluetooth beacons to discover your location and push "deals" to your phone. Only, this causes the phone to never go to sleep and causes the bluetooth to stay active and scanning.
So I uninstalled the CVS app, restarted the phone, and have been happy ever since. The app was handy, and some people have said that disabling the location ability in the app permissions may fix it, so I might try that later.
In addition, the Gasbuddy app has also caused similar issues, so if you have random battery drain and have either Gasbuddy or CVS installed, try uninstalling those and see if it helps.
I'm currently using the Pumpkin 8.0 unit and I really like it - however, the process of when I get in my truck is not nearly as simple as I would like it to be and usually involves several minutes of having to stop-start personal hotspot on my iphone (or unlock the screen) and then often opening the wifi settings, sometimes seeing an authorization error that clears up on the next attempt. It's never the same process, seems like there are several things that happen different to get in the way of it just happening.
I have an iPhone 8 Plus I dont use very often that I was just keeping in there with Personal Hotspot turned on, which seems to stay on for a day without turning off. But I usually have to unlock it to get it to show up in the wifi section. Should I disable the lock, would that make a difference? What about using my Galaxy S7, would that be "easier", I havent really tired messing with it yet since that is my main phone.
What hotspot solutions do people use in their setups to avoid the "process" of getting online?
Assuming Android would be much easier. The quickest way I can turn it on off is with bixby with note 8.
Since I'm not rooted I couldn't get Tasker to automate it. I tried nfc tags also. Eventually bixby was my solution.
I'll follow the thread for other recommendations
I also tried NFC tag, but for some reason cellular data can not be switched ON by NFC soft on non-rooted phone (it's OK with WiFi hotspot) - keeping this down during day helps to save battery.
I tried the NFC tag and while I dont turn off cellular data, I was disappointed to learn from the developer that the API to turn on and off hotspots was removed by Google and is not supported in 3rd party apps. I put the quick setting in my drop down notification screen, so at least I can turn it on and off easily. I'm going to try the android phone for a couple days and see if its just another reason for me to dislike apple.
So I have noticed that this is only an issue after the device wakes from sleep via the fast boot. If you reboot the head unit for real it connects first time with no issues.
It also seems happy to connect to real wifi networks without any issues. I don't have an android phone so have not been able to try that, but it would be good to know others findings. I'm not sure how the iPhone hot spot works but it must differ slightly to a normally wifi base station.