I know that the Note 3 got the Snapdragon 800 8974AA(GPU clocked at 450 MHz).
So i ran the latest GFXBench 3.0(Manhattan offscreen) and got a score of 11.1, which is even better than the scores the Snapdragon 800 8974AB(GPU clocked at 550/578MHz) got.
How can this be?
mull54 said:
I know that the Note 3 got the Snapdragon 800 8974AA(GPU clocked at 450 MHz).
So i ran the latest GFXBench 3.0(Manhattan offscreen) and got a score of 11.1, which is even better than the scores the Snapdragon 800 8974AB(GPU clocked at 550/578MHz) got.
How can this be?
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maybe its caused by throttling down due temperature
Maybe memory of Note 3 is faster and larger than other phone, which shouldn't be Samsung because S5 uses AC version. I think Note3 has very fast RAM and if other phone has slower (read cheaper) RAM it could bottleneck there. Also, as the other poster said the other phone could be thermally throttling, especially if the benchmarks were run multiple times to get average. You figure people running benchmarks would know better, but who knows.
Hundsbuah said:
maybe its caused by throttling down due temperature
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Yeah maybe that's the case.
pete4k said:
Maybe memory of Note 3 is faster and larger than other phone, which shouldn't be Samsung because S5 uses AC version. I think Note3 has very fast RAM and if other phone has slower (read cheaper) RAM it could bottleneck there. Also, as the other poster said the other phone could be thermally throttling, especially if the benchmarks were run multiple times to get average. You figure people running benchmarks would know better, but who knows.
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The thing is that, other Note 3 get's around 9-10 FPS, which is normal for a 8974AA SoC. So either some Note 3's got the AB(which is unlikley) or Samsung is cheating again and overclocking the GPU to AB levels only for the Bench.
mull54 said:
Yeah maybe that's the case.
The thing is that, other Note 3 get's around 9-10 FPS, which is normal for a 8974AA SoC. So either some Note 3's got the AB(which is unlikley) or Samsung is cheating again and overclocking the GPU to AB levels only for the Bench.
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Samsung never overclocked anything, what they did in the past is ramp up frequency to maximum before benchmark started running, so there was no delay to get CPU/GPU to full speed, like you have with on demand governor. I don't believe it's cheating because you can set the governor to run full click yourself (if rooted) and benefit from this as well with any game/ benchmark. It also shows how inefficient ondemand governor is and maybe we should be using different governor setting which is interesting topic all by itself. I remember there was similar "scandal" few years ago in graphic card business, where drivers were optimized for particular benchmarks. Well, now all video drivers are optimized for specific, mostly graphic intensive games and we all benefit from it by having better performance, from lesser hardware. Maybe this could also benefit all of us by giving us better governors, so the phones can run faster with the same hardware, instead of being artificially slowed down with poor choice of governor settings. As far as other Notes running slower, thermal throttling due to multiple benchmark runs to get average would be my wild guess. Or maybe you deleted factory bloatware and change settings to make your phone faster, but no, you don't have AB version.
Hey guys. I have really put this phone through the paces. Something isnt reallly making sense for me. I tested a lot of phones in this category and price range. On paper, it seems to be more powerful than the rest but im not noticing this. I had my deviced rooted etc but I have reverted back to stock reruud and tried to use the phone normally for a week or so with just the internal memory being used. I wanted to get the most realistic use case benchmarks possible.. Here are my results.. I just ran the test. Then I ran it again. Then I enable CPU high performance mode through dev options and ran it one more time. ANNNNNDDD one more time with CPU HP Mode Enabled with Airplane mode on. FYI.. this did nothign. Here are my ANTUTU RESULTS (P.S. I am using v6.1.4 on android 5.1)
Run 1
Overall Score 20734
3D 898
UX 7984
CPU 7799
RAM 4053
Run 2
Overall Score 20159
3D 894
UX 7611
CPU 7830
RAM 3824
Run 3 (CPU high performance mode)
Overall Score 20734
3D 898
UX 7926
CPU 7810
RAM 4025
Run 4 (CPU high perf mode x airplane mode)
Overall Score 20845
3D 903
UX 8111
CPU 7780
RAM 4051
CAN ANYONE POST THERE RESULTS and THE DEVICE VARIANT? Thanks!
Here's a pic with results from all four, I used quadrant because my phone wasn't compatible with the 3d app that AtTuTu needed for there test. I'm am the sprint variant and I'm on stock marshmallow 6.0.1
Hi there,
I recently bought a used v20 and found it to be really slow for a SD 820 device so today i ran Antutu and Geekbench and i'm getting like 73k in antutu and 1800 multicore in Geekbench.
That does not look right. Any suggestions?
I've searched around and no one else who thinks their phone is lagging did the benchmarks.
That doesn't sound right. Mine is running nice and smooth with no issues, did you purchase the phone from a carrier of 3rd party?
antutu average for this phone is around 130k i believe so your phone isnt working right
Your scores are really low.
I've just ran both tests and get the following results:
Antutu - 148346
Geekbench 4 - Multicore - 4061
Hi all bro, first time sorry for my bad English, I really need your help!
I bought a new Leeco 3 pro last month.
It has :
-Snapdragon S821 2.35Ghz cpu, Adreno 530 652Mhz gpu with 524 GFLOPS.
-4Gb ram
-64Gb rom
-Full HD screen
-4070mAh battery
-159000 of antutu scores (62000 3D scores)
That's a hi-end performance smartphone but some thing not match its might. When play game, light to heavy graphic requires, the framerate often drop so bad.
Ex in Ace of arenas, Rules of survive, war song, desitive war, the fps can reach 4, 50 per second but sometimes they can drop to 17 18 not with a clearly reason although the Xiaomi Redmi note 3 pro with S650 cpu can run it with 40-45fps stability. Testing with Cpu metter, I see the max frequency of adreno 530 gpu is always change and gpu load only about 20-40% and in S650 is 50-70%.
I rooted it and run some overclock app to turn both of gpu and cpu to the highest frequency but nothing happen, the fps still drop suddenly, i get a lot of lags when play game. Asking some le eco 3 pro users, they said they have the same problem. I tried to install some le 3 pro 's rom, the Miui rom but stil can't resolve this problem. Can anyone help me????
I don't know what i have to do now!?
More info, when open the antutu app, i see enable high performance mode notification, so it can reach 159000 antutu score easily. Le 3 pro don't have the high performance options, it's only working full power when antutu testting but when play game, it 's looked like a lazy device.
Maybe your phone is so hot that it starts to scale down frequencies. On AICP 8.1 I have no problems with fps I dont trust EUI in case of performance
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More info, when open the antutu app, i see enable high performance mode notification, so it can reach 159000 antutu score easily. Le 3 pro don't have the high performance options, it's only working full power when antutu testting but when play game, it 's looked like a lazy device.
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Are you running stock?
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So does this bad performance only occur in 3D and real time games or all games? If you're on stock eUI, or an eUI ROM then you should uninstall literally every LeEco app and piece of bloatware you can find. LeEco's apps slow everything down. Have you tried LineageOS?
Hmm. I should try some of these myself. I'm curious about my Elite's performance. It handles 2D online games very well.
Set the 2 big cores to ondemand governor. If that doesn't improve it, try setting the 2 small cores to ondemand as well. You could also play with gpu governor.
Xiaomi decided to make a trick on us, and I think that might be even called a sort of scam - yet, my accusations may seem without proper argumentation quite invalid, so let's begin.
I bought this phone in a 6/128 version a month ago, as a successor to my previous experience with Xiaomi devices - The Redmi note 4(Mido). Immediately after unpacking it and installing latest OTA updates I ran AnTuTu benchmark in order to ensure myself whether it's a good upgrade or not(deciding factor was processor - whopping 2.35 GHz and GPU should be at least 1.5x as good as Snapdragon 625 had to offer). Average scores varied around 160k, while my device was... 95k. I didn't believe it's this bad, so I ran a few highly demanding titles(such as PUBG) and my fears rendered to be true. Everything was worse than my old Mido, with price tag twice as high! Not to even mention that battery life was sensibly worse, though capacity is almost identical.
This triggered the first red flag.
I made hard reset, and AnTuTu rose to 130k. I still didn't accept that state of matter, so I basically unlocked it, flashed TWRP and LineageOS. Results were... Non-existent. Yet, I decided to use it for some time because of just my pure love to LOS.
Things started getting... BAD. My phone started to literally bake itself(80°C avg) when screen was unlocked, causing thermal throttling which only made performance worse.
As soon as MIUI 10 came up I decided to say "f*** it" and return the phone to original state. I flashed the stock ROM, overwrote TWRP and started using it again.
I thought this update is a solution to all of my problems, but general ****ty performance seemed to happen each time the charger was connected instead. Google Pay didn't work as well because by device was "rooted", so I installed TWRP with Magisk just to make it work and terrible truth came to my eyes.
This update basically CLOCKED DOWN THE CPU.
On battery, all cores were underclocked to Snapdragon 820 clocks(2.35->2.15;2.1->1.6GHz) while connecting to charge makes all cores go at 1132 MHz, and GPU to 132 MHz - that's slower than Snapdragon 400!
Luckily, the performance on battery can be changed with root, but on charger - it's stuck on 1.1GHz.
Why do I write it all here?
I want to ask you guys if my data is the same as yours, and to ask bigger brains for a possible way to take control over clock when charging. This is frustrating to face performance throttling in such way - Is Xiaomi copying from Apple even their battery policy? I bought this phone only because of the CPU.
Thanks for any advice :angel:
You can always try a custom kernel that has all the tools to tweak your phone's performance.
I found that for my own use MIUI 10 is better than any other custom rom at the moment, including Oreo based examples, but that's just me and how I use the phone. I have it for a year now (4/64 international version) and still happy with it. Couldn't care less about the benchmark scores as long as my experience is lag free without overheating and enough battery life to get me through a day and a bit.
I found that occasionally I need to reboot it just to "reset" the OS and get battery performance where it should be.
Thanks for any advice :angel:
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I'm running Xiaomi.eu weekly 8.9.20 MIUI 10 Android 8.0 with no problems on the international version 6/128.
Looking at the cpu cores in AIDA64 there seems to be no problems, last I checked with antutu (several versions back) it was fine.
You should be thankfull for thermal throttelling, when charging for example.
I do not recommend quickcharging on any phone.
The Mi Note 2 does not have well implemented cooling apparently, you can damage the motherboard if running too hot for too long.
There is a quite detailed informative thread on the MIUI forum about this:
http://en.miui.com/thread-2541123-1-1.html
So perhaps not the best choice for extreme gaming, otherwise fine.
hypixus said:
Xiaomi decided to make a trick on us, and I think that might be even called a sort of scam - yet, my accusations may seem without proper argumentation quite invalid, so let's begin.
I bought this phone in a 6/128 version a month ago, as a successor to my previous experience with Xiaomi devices - The Redmi note 4(Mido). Immediately after unpacking it and installing latest OTA updates I ran AnTuTu benchmark in order to ensure myself whether it's a good upgrade or not(deciding factor was processor - whopping 2.35 GHz and GPU should be at least 1.5x as good as Snapdragon 625 had to offer). Average scores varied around 160k, while my device was... 95k. I didn't believe it's this bad, so I ran a few highly demanding titles(such as PUBG) and my fears rendered to be true. Everything was worse than my old Mido, with price tag twice as high! Not to even mention that battery life was sensibly worse, though capacity is almost identical.
This triggered the first red flag.
I made hard reset, and AnTuTu rose to 130k. I still didn't accept that state of matter, so I basically unlocked it, flashed TWRP and LineageOS. Results were... Non-existent. Yet, I decided to use it for some time because of just my pure love to LOS.
Things started getting... BAD. My phone started to literally bake itself(80°C avg) when screen was unlocked, causing thermal throttling which only made performance worse.
As soon as MIUI 10 came up I decided to say "f*** it" and return the phone to original state. I flashed the stock ROM, overwrote TWRP and started using it again.
I thought this update is a solution to all of my problems, but general ****ty performance seemed to happen each time the charger was connected instead. Google Pay didn't work as well because by device was "rooted", so I installed TWRP with Magisk just to make it work and terrible truth came to my eyes.
This update basically CLOCKED DOWN THE CPU.
On battery, all cores were underclocked to Snapdragon 820 clocks(2.35->2.15;2.1->1.6GHz) while connecting to charge makes all cores go at 1132 MHz, and GPU to 132 MHz - that's slower than Snapdragon 400!
Luckily, the performance on battery can be changed with root, but on charger - it's stuck on 1.1GHz.
Why do I write it all here?
I want to ask you guys if my data is the same as yours, and to ask bigger brains for a possible way to take control over clock when charging. This is frustrating to face performance throttling in such way - Is Xiaomi copying from Apple even their battery policy? I bought this phone only because of the CPU.
Thanks for any advice :angel:
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Too right mate.
After firmware update, this device became a ****ty one.
I've been using Lineage with 8.5.24 firmware and it was "OK". My old Zuk Z2 was still better (faster and better battery life).
Now, with 9.xx firmware, this Mi Note 2 is pure garbage.
I'm waiting for a stable Lineage 16 to decide if I keep this device or buy another one.
One thing is sure: I'll never buy any Xiaomi devices again.
Later my device very similiar problem with you, then i update to miui 10 global stable, with twrp and magisk applied and still have problem when intense playing game becoming hot above 60 degrees. I tweak with kernel aduitor try to lock each core big.LITTLE max at 1500 mhz and delete thermal throttling in system/vendor/etc then my device perform smooth and acceptable temp with longer battery.
Im not into benchmarking with antutu just play with PUBG mobile I get high and stable fps with no hot temperature which is actually good.
piway said:
Later my device very similiar problem with you, then i update to miui 10 global stable, with twrp and magisk applied and still have problem when intense playing game becoming hot above 60 degrees. I tweak with kernel aduitor try to lock each core big.LITTLE max at 1500 mhz and delete thermal throttling in system/vendor/etc then my device perform smooth and acceptable temp with longer battery.
Im not into benchmarking with antutu just play with PUBG mobile I get high and stable fps with no hot temperature which is actually good.
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did you use any custom kernel for tweaking or just the default one? and may i know what ROM did you use?
hypixus said:
Xiaomi decided to make a trick on us, and I think that might be even called a sort of scam - yet, my accusations may seem without proper argumentation quite invalid, so let's begin.
I bought this phone in a 6/128 version a month ago, as a successor to my previous experience with Xiaomi devices - The Redmi note 4(Mido). Immediately after unpacking it and installing latest OTA updates I ran AnTuTu benchmark in order to ensure myself whether it's a good upgrade or not(deciding factor was processor - whopping 2.35 GHz and GPU should be at least 1.5x as good as Snapdragon 625 had to offer). Average scores varied around 160k, while my device was... 95k. I didn't believe it's this bad, so I ran a few highly demanding titles(such as PUBG) and my fears rendered to be true. Everything was worse than my old Mido, with price tag twice as high! Not to even mention that battery life was sensibly worse, though capacity is almost identical.
This triggered the first red flag.
I made hard reset, and AnTuTu rose to 130k. I still didn't accept that state of matter, so I basically unlocked it, flashed TWRP and LineageOS. Results were... Non-existent. Yet, I decided to use it for some time because of just my pure love to LOS.
Things started getting... BAD. My phone started to literally bake itself(80°C avg) when screen was unlocked, causing thermal throttling which only made performance worse.
As soon as MIUI 10 came up I decided to say "f*** it" and return the phone to original state. I flashed the stock ROM, overwrote TWRP and started using it again.
I thought this update is a solution to all of my problems, but general ****ty performance seemed to happen each time the charger was connected instead. Google Pay didn't work as well because by device was "rooted", so I installed TWRP with Magisk just to make it work and terrible truth came to my eyes.
This update basically CLOCKED DOWN THE CPU.
On battery, all cores were underclocked to Snapdragon 820 clocks(2.35->2.15;2.1->1.6GHz) while connecting to charge makes all cores go at 1132 MHz, and GPU to 132 MHz - that's slower than Snapdragon 400!
Luckily, the performance on battery can be changed with root, but on charger - it's stuck on 1.1GHz.
Why do I write it all here?
I want to ask you guys if my data is the same as yours, and to ask bigger brains for a possible way to take control over clock when charging. This is frustrating to face performance throttling in such way - Is Xiaomi copying from Apple even their battery policy? I bought this phone only because of the CPU.
Thanks for any advice :angel:
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I am in agreement with you in everything, I also checked it. The solution for me, after trying roms based on Miui was to change a custom rom. And with Aosp Ext. I'm doing very well.
You don't need to try a custom ROM.
Just follow the steps mentioned in this video to activate the PERFORMANCE mode and you'll be fine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5gKKk2BGIM
Kind regards,
Lexx
we shouldnt need outside apps or tweaks to get this phone running..maybe thats why xiaomi leave it behind..for me its running fine, i dont play intensive games, only top eleven and works fine, heats to 38º maximum..battery SOT is about 5-6 hours all day but i need to charge it at the end of the day..im running MIUI 10 xiaomi.eu 9.4.25, dark mode ,all black..nice..great sound,****ty camera at night..worst that i ever had..day time decent photos, not for this price tag..for sure...
smokerman said:
we shouldnt need outside apps or tweaks to get this phone running..maybe thats why xiaomi leave it behind..for me its running fine, i dont play intensive games, only top eleven and works fine, heats to 38º maximum..battery SOT is about 5-6 hours all day but i need to charge it at the end of the day..im running MIUI 10 xiaomi.eu 9.4.25, dark mode ,all black..nice..great sound,****ty camera at night..worst that i ever had..day time decent photos, not for this price tag..for sure...
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Latest Gcam works great, also night photos.
But you have to tweak the settings to get it to work well and not FC.
Arnova's Advanced 1.5: GCam_6.1.021_Advanced_V1.5.190418.1850.apk (Arnova8G2, 2019-04-18, configs, changelog)
What kind of "the settings"? Could you explain it please?
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did you use any custom kernel for tweaking or just the default one? and may i know what ROM did you use?
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Looks like there isn't a custom kernel which is working with latest MIUI version
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