[idea] Creating MACRO LENS out of WATER droplets - Xperia Z1 General

Hey XDA'ians!
You may remember that our Sony Xperia Z1 is waterproof.
You may also remember from physics class that water has a very high surface tension.
Now my question is: has anyone tried putting the phone upside down on a (preferably glass or other see-through) table, added droplets of water to the lens and tried macro photography? Because water on the lens will create a macro lens!
(see the attached photograph below)
The thing is, if you can manage to shape the water 'lens' perfectly round, you got yourself a perfect macro lens.
I haven't been able to play with this for too long because I couldn't shape the water too well, and I'm too impatient to try over and over again. It's also pretty difficult to know what distance to hold an object at when you don't have a see-through table
If you've got time to spare, I wish you luck trying my idea :cyclops:
P.S. Any improbable water damage will be your own responsibility, obviously ^__^

Haha, I did mine with an DVD ? lense, it's working amazing.
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You can search on Google how to do it, it's very to do it, hehe, here are some examples...
It's hard to grab the lens and the phone together, that's why because there are some photos with not much quality, but it's nice, I love it.

Wow! Cool ideas! You put out the laser from DVD rom right?
I wanna try that! :good:

I use the lens found in laser pointers.
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You can use lens from bicolaur if you have one that you don't use.
It does pretty good job.
Tried this when I had satio, I will post picture and video later.
EDIT: Here is the video showing off, post picture later.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-DnpKkjHKs&list=UUkJCS-eNMogMeOgr3CRYsNw
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Me and my girlfriend managed to extract the lens from DVD RW ROM, because we didn't find the same in CD ROM and the results are awesome! :good:
This is great! I will share some photos later. We are now trying to make some holder for the lens to the phone. Thanks for the idea! :laugh:

Just a note:
I created this thread to discuss the idea of a 'water lens', not necessarily for discussing macro photography in general because I'm sure there are plenty of those already.

Wouldn't be simpler to just use one of this:
http://www.dx.com/p/universal-13mm-...al-cameras-and-cell-phones-14953#.U-JOuvl5Nyg

Hermantje said:
Just a note:
I created this thread to discuss the idea of a 'water lens', not necessarily for discussing macro photography in general because I'm sure there are plenty of those already.
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Thanks for creating this thread. Not a problem, we'll stick to the idea of "water lens"

Nice lens
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My HD2 Supermacro shots :D

I took an idea out of Lifehacker and ripped out the lens from a DVD player to make a ghetto macro lens. I taped this to my HD2 and took a couple of these shots. They were grains of rice about 1mm in diameter. (Rice grains can come in huge sizes too, but these were tiny )
Photos were then touched up in Resco Photo Manager and sharpened a little in Pocket Artist. I used Photoshop on my laptop to resize the shots to exactly 604 pixels on the longest end. This ensures maximum sharpness when uploaded to Facebook... however, that step was not entirely necessary of course and I could have just sent it straight from my phone to FB or Flicker using Resco Photo Manager 7.03 (an AWESOME program!)
DOF was tiny and there was no additional lighting used apart from the camera's LED. It wasn't easy. The lens was almost touching the rice. In post processing, I had to reduce gamma and brightness and boost contrast. However, in keeping with the main goal of the project, I did all such modifications to the photo on the HD2 itself
What do you think?
Here is a link to that Lifehacker site;
http://lifehacker.com/5345067/turn-a-dvd-lens-into-a-cellphone-macro-lens
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Thats actually fairly impressive! Is the colour balance your choosing, or a side-effect of the HD2s camera in such proximity?
All we need now is a way to turn this macro lens into a flip-on flip-off attachment to a phone
When I say "fairly", I mean "very", btw
They look pretty damn impressive!
Can you get a close-up of your fingertip? It's always a good judge of a lens as to how clearly they can get a fingerprint.
johncmolyneux said:
They look pretty damn impressive!
Can you get a close-up of your fingertip? It's always a good judge of a lens as to how clearly they can get a fingerprint.
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I will try that later tonight I did have a go yesterday but didn't keep the shot... The magnification was so great though I think I could only have 5 -6 lines of my fingerprint show up....
ftr2k8 said:
Thats actually fairly impressive! Is the colour balance your choosing, or a side-effect of the HD2s camera in such proximity?
All we need now is a way to turn this macro lens into a flip-on flip-off attachment to a phone
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That was the HD2... after adjusting gamma and contrast... before, there was a blueish glow to it. The rice was sitting on my black HD2 case which came with the phone
Ah I see. Still, I will have to dig out an old PC and see if I can get the lens from it and do this myself. I think with a few people working on it and sharing settings/ideas we can get a good thing going!
That's pretty damn trick. I like it!!
Simply awesome

Macro Shots w/ Vibrant camera

Just wanted to share some macro shots I took today of a butterfly sitting on my porch. The sky was overcast with no sun. Shots were taken in Macro mode at 400 ISO. I would like some feedback from a photographer who knows what their doing. Let me know what you think of the Vibrant's camera.
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Nice pics, I'm amazed the butterfly Hung out that long. Now as a photographer (decent) at best I would say the pics are great for a cell phone but nothing makes up for a good dslr camera and controlled lighting... that being said the pics look great for the hardware they were accomplished on
Pretty awesome for a cellphone.
I personally can't make my phone stable for some reason especially hitting the on screen shutter.
Nice pics! I am loving having such a good camera with me all the time. I took this the other afternoon in my backyard. Macro mode works nicely.
Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is macro mode? Looking through the settings in the camera I don't see a 'macro mode'. Granted, I do have the Captivate camera mod, but pretty sure all the options are the same.
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Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is macro mode? Looking through the settings in the camera I don't see a 'macro mode'. Granted, I do have the Captivate camera mod, but pretty sure all the options are the same.
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I am no photographer but what macro mode does if you are going to be taking an extreme close-up picture of something. It makes the camera focus different so when the lenses is close to an object its not blurry.
I found it. Under 'focus mode' in the settings. Now time to play with it.
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i think we should have a Camera Forum under Vibrant.. because it feels like we're going to be having alot of amatuer (but brilliant) Photography!!!
I'm going to start posting some pics i've taken on a new thread.. hopefullly ppl will share their brilliant photography!!
p.s. I know there is probably a Flickr group for all that goodness.. but i just feel at home in XDA
Really nice pictures guys
Here's a similar thread (not Macro Shots) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745704&highlight=photos maybe some of you want to pass by and post some pics in there.
400 ISO
The quality is quite decent for a camera lens the size of a small pencil eraser (if that).

HD2 LENS MOD anyone???

Has anybody considered creating an extension lens that can be mounted onto your CCD?
They already have some custom kits developed by users for pocket HD video recorders that adds wide angle lens capabilities.
Any ideas?
You mean something like this
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It works really well for me but I can't fit it in my pocket... any ideas?
First this would be an attachment not a mod. Second it's a phone what are you expecting from such a small lense. I mean if you want to take a good picture use a true camera.
well, wouldnt it be cool, for the sake of nerdism, to pull a lens and mount it onto your phone like some form of SPEC OPS tactical kit???
and yes, thats a nice add on. Any video or pic?
You may laugh but - there is actually an add-on macro lense avaliable for the EVO.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/09/htc-evo-4g-meets-magnetic-macro-lens-shoots-gorgeous-closeups/
However its not working on hd2 I guess (different shape)
but try it out please
check this out
I understand wanting nice pictures. I use the camera on my phone all the time but when I do it's to do things like take a picture of something and send it via email or mms to somebody to ask them a question or laugh about something. Sometimes it's just to take a picture but I know it's a phone and not to expect much from it. If I'm going to waste the space to carry around some bulky attachment I might as well carry a nice half decent size camera and get a real quality picture. Hell I can even go so far as to use my camera take a series of pictures put the card in my phone because the camera uses micro SD with adapter. So I can still be able to send them or view them.
To prove a point that this is a waste of energy.
These pictures were done really quick using a special macro tool I found sitting on my desk.
ISO set to 100 no flash..using Android NAND
holding the phone no more the 2 inches away...could have been a bit closer.
Same distance with my macro tool
the tool............
hmm, maybe this is what you are looking for: http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/cell-phone-lenses/
I don't understand the point.
No matter what kind of lens you attach to the HD2 or any smartphone for that matter, you're still significantly hindered by the tiny, crappy little image sensor on the phone. The image sensor is at least as important as the glass. (I'd say it more important)
I suppose one could benefit from being able to shoot more creatively by being given more control of depth of field and what-not, but I doubt the image sensor can capture enough detail to make it worthwhile.
relax people this is just for entertainment and exploring ideas no need for it to be useful. Im simply exploring
In my youtube channel, ive posted some of my experimentation with post enhancements softwares for the sake of learning something about video quality. Note that these videos were all shot by HD2 (under Froyo 2.2):
Nov Sun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSjEySzGutE
Nov Sun 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFd2Ms7DY_o
dusk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZA_nNwyaHs
indoor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_OcY5-A-iM
snowy day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGo80DXiWyY
Thanks for the post so far
In the wm6.5 there was this fellow, who was modifying the registery to increase the bit rate for the video recording. Also, there were adjustments on the color, sharpness and etc

Simple CameraFix for better pictures.

First, there will be no disassembly pictures, because i did not have a camera, just look at the youtube disassemblyvids.
You basically open the batterydoor, unscrew the screws for the back, pop it of, pop out the cameraglas, and polish away the faded AntiReflective coating with a rag and toothpaste.
Clean the Camerasensor and glas with windowcleaner afterwards. Put it back togheter.
Profit.
Before and after pictures.
This i guess, works for all phones.
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I did this to mine the other day, although I didn't disassemble it, I just cleaned the lens while it was on the phone. It really made a huge difference to my photo's, before they were all bloomy and blurry, now they are nice and sharp! :laugh:
Reminds me of the 'fix' back when I had a MyTouch 3G Limited Edition Fender (i.e.: HTC Magic/Sapphire). Except the glass filter was much much easier to remove.
But yea for me, since I'm already walking around with an expensive Olympus Pen E-P3 I have a number of Lens pens in my bag, one of which being a micro that just enough to cover the G2's glass cover and take any film right off.
Wouldn't that have a negative impact on shots outdoors in sunlight?
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Wouldn't that have a negative impact on shots outdoors in sunlight?
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Indeed it would, harsh glare/flare, the alternative would be to simply kick up the contrast a little on the image. Which is what I suspect the software did on gb, when full camera driver/control was available.
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Exactly what I suspected, thanks for clearing that up.
One thing I read about. CM7 and such ROMs compress pics, causing picture quality to be subpar. Believe someone posted a fix on another phone thread, I could never figure out how to implement that for the G2. It explains why Sense ROMs and stock have better picture quality.
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Exactly what I suspected, thanks for clearing that up.
One thing I read about. CM7 and such ROMs compress pics, causing picture quality to be subpar. Believe someone posted a fix on another phone thread, I could never figure out how to implement that for the G2. It explains why Sense ROMs and stock have better picture quality.
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Depends on the camera drivers used in the kernel and how the provided software works with it. For example If the Desire HD had gotten ICS, or when the Virtuous team manages to rewrite the drivers, direct control over camera's hardware will allow some camera apps (third party or otherwise) to make the most use of the camera's raw data, which can then be tweaked prior to compression.
I'm not very familiar with how it even works now, just that the drivers some of the ICS roms use currently is kind of a work around, i.e.: no real control over the camera but 'functional' for the most part. It's like getting your 3D accelerated graphics card working with at least some 2D functionality.
I also used tootpaste today for cleaning glass and result is very big! :good:
Thank you, I hadn't considered the glass.

Dust in lens?

Hi all,
I just noticed that my SGS4 has some small black spots in the camera. It's just in the main camera, the front camera is OK. They appear in the top quarter of the image.
I already tried cleaning the lens with a micro-fibre cloth but it did nothing.
At first I thought it could be dust beneath the lens but one thing strikes me as odd, these dots remain the same while I change focus from close to far. Shouldn't they change shape while focus distance changes if it was dust? If I zoom in the camera the spots disappear.
I attached a crop of a photo from my phone. Do you think this is dust? What can I do to solve it?
Hey. I had the same issue when I had the xperia z. It was no where near as bad though.
I never found out what it was although it did move when I was on video recording. Does it move for you also while video recording?
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When I go to video mode it stays in the same place. They only disappear when I zoom the image preview.
Could it be dust? How did it get beneath the lens? This sucks.
*boy*racer* said:
Hey. I had the same issue when I had the xperia z. It was no where near as bad though.
I never found out what it was although it did move when I was on video recording. Does it move for you also while video recording?
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AlexandreT said:
Hi all,
I just noticed that my SGS4 has some small black spots in the camera. It's just in the main camera, the front camera is OK. They appear in the top quarter of the image.
I already tried cleaning the lens with a micro-fibre cloth but it did nothing.
At first I thought it could be dust beneath the lens but one thing strikes me as odd, these dots remain the same while I change focus from close to far. Shouldn't they change shape while focus distance changes if it was dust? If I zoom in the camera the spots disappear.
I attached a crop of a photo from my phone. Do you think this is dust? What can I do to solve it?
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there is a protective plastic on camera lens. check if u have taken it off or not.
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I took it out when I bought the phone. With naked eye I can't see anything on the lens.
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there is a protective plastic on camera lens. check if u have taken it off or not.
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I ended up taking it in for service at a repair center. They replaced the camera module, under warranty. Now the problem is solved.

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