Can someone explain the nc2/nc4 thing - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So i have a note 3 im rooted and i installed safestrap 3.75. The problem i have is that when i install a rom on a rom slot, i reboot the system and all i get is a black screen. sometimes the menu and back buttons vibrate when i hit them sometimes they dont. I think its because my phone is nc4, but i downloaded an nc4 rom. Can someone explain what the difference between nc2 and nc4 is.

mrinos98 said:
So i have a note 3 im rooted and i installed safestrap 3.75. The problem i have is that when i install a rom on a rom slot, i reboot the system and all i get is a black screen. sometimes the menu and back buttons vibrate when i hit them sometimes they dont. I think its because my phone is nc4, but i downloaded an nc4 rom. Can someone explain what the difference between nc2 and nc4 is.
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The boot loop is caused by using a ROM slot. As of right now, the only slot to use that doesn't have an issue (bootloop, battery drain) is Stock Slot. You also want to make sure that you are on the correct SS (3.75 B04) see thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
I would start fresh (modem back to stock, then root). Also, depending on the firmware you have (if you have the OTA Kit Kat) then you will have to Odin Firmware then the Kernel in order for you to actually use any of the ROMS out there.
In regards to the NC2/NC4, its just a radio (signal stability). Some have preferences, so it depends on which one works best for you. I had NC4 and it was horrible, so I went back to NC2 which was more stable than MJE for me. But I live in Tampa, Fl. so it all depends.
Everything you need is on beans' thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524572
That has everything you need to get going. Hope it works out!

shaggy_kobain said:
I would start fresh (modem back to stock, then root). Also, depending on the firmware you have (if you have the OTA Kit Kat) then you will have to Odin Firmware then the Kernel in order for you to actually use any of the ROMS out there.
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Could you possibly elaborate on this or point me in the right direction? I'm having the same issue currently. No boot animation just a black screen on 2 separate roms that I try and flash in the stock slot. I'm rooted on NC4 with busybox, SU, and SS 3.72. It was my understanding that you couldn't change the kernel on the retail version?

sohcsti said:
Could you possibly elaborate on this or point me in the right direction? I'm having the same issue currently. No boot animation just a black screen on 2 separate roms that I try and flash in the stock slot. I'm rooted on NC4 with busybox, SU, and SS 3.72. It was my understanding that you couldn't change the kernel on the retail version?
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If you're on retail, then no, you wouldn't you would just do the following:
1. Root with TowelRoot
2. Install Busy Box from Play Store...open App and install
3. Install SafeStrap 3.75 B04 open App and Install
4. Reboot into SafeStrap, Wipe (Factory Reset) Stock Slot
5. Install Whatever ROM
6. Reboot into Download Mode FROM SAFESTRAP
7. Odin (AP slot) Updated NC2 Firmware for NC4 OTA
this useful thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528707 will guide you more in depth, and also, there is youtube help from someone named rootjunky.... step by step if you are like me and need visual assistance :good:

shaggy_kobain said:
If you're on retail, then no, you wouldn't you would just do the following:
1. Root with TowelRoot
2. Install Busy Box from Play Store...open App and install
3. Install SafeStrap 3.75 B04 open App and Install
4. Reboot into SafeStrap, Wipe (Factory Reset) Stock Slot
5. Install Whatever ROM
6. Reboot into Download Mode FROM SAFESTRAP
7. Odin (AP slot) Updated NC2 Firmware for NC4 OTA
this useful thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528707 will guide you more in depth, and also, there is youtube help from someone named rootjunky.... step by step if you are like me and need visual assistance :good:
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Thanks for the quick response!
So at after step 5 I do not boot to system? If I'm already on NC4, I can flash the step 7 file? Where can I find this file?

sohcsti said:
Thanks for the quick response!
So at after step 5 I do not boot to system? If I'm already on NC4, I can flash the step 7 file? Where can I find this file?
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Page 1 of the link, scroll down a bit and you'll see it. And no, you boot back into SafeStrap into download mode

shaggy_kobain said:
If you're on retail, then no, you wouldn't you would just do the following:
1. Root with TowelRoot
2. Install Busy Box from Play Store...open App and install
3. Install SafeStrap 3.75 B04 open App and Install
4. Reboot into SafeStrap, Wipe (Factory Reset) Stock Slot
5. Install Whatever ROM
6. Reboot into Download Mode FROM SAFESTRAP
7. Odin (AP slot) Updated NC2 Firmware for NC4 OTA
this useful thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528707 will guide you more in depth, and also, there is youtube help from someone named rootjunky.... step by step if you are like me and need visual assistance :good:
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so do i need to do step 7 if i install a rom that says its nc4 or can i skip that step?

mrinos98 said:
so do i need to do step 7 if i install a rom that says its nc4 or can i skip that step?
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Depends on the ROM you choose. I would look at the OP or Download section of the ROM you are going to dl and see if they require it or not. I know there is at least 1 ROM that required it, but again, it all depends on what their OP (Original Post) states in the description.
Edit: You will need to:
Updated NC2 Firmware for NC4 OTA
if you have the KK OTA, then you will need the firmware to proceed.

What if I decide to go back to the stock rom? Do I need to restore it in SS then odin the nc4 kernel or can I leave the nc2 kernel? And where can you get the nc4 kernel? Sorry didn't mean to steal this thread...just can't find the answer to that question.

cconcepts said:
What if I decide to go back to the stock rom? Do I need to restore it in SS then odin the nc4 kernel or can I leave the nc2 kernel? And where can you get the nc4 kernel? Sorry didn't mean to steal this thread...just can't find the answer to that question.
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You can Odin back to stock if you want to sell the phone or for whatever reason.
All the tars for stock are on beans' thread, along with instructions on how to get you going so you can flash the ROM of your choosing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524572
Happy Flashing [emoji106]

shaggy_kobain said:
You can Odin back to stock if you want to sell the phone or for whatever reason.
All the tars for stock are on beans' thread, along with instructions on how to get you going so you can flash the ROM of your choosing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524572
Happy Flashing [emoji106]
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Thanks!

You can use rom slots with the newest safestrap I have dual roms on my note 3

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[Q] Verizon Note 3 Rom Help

Hi Guys I'm trying to install a custom Rom on my phone but have failed 4 times now and have to reach out to the forum for help. I'm on 4.4.2 ota and have rooted w/ towel root sucessfully, installed safestrap 3.72 and 3.75, busybox and super su. I advance wipe and do a clean install. Everytime it says it was successful but when I reboot the screen goes black and does noting. The phone remains on but nobodys home. I've tried the Jasmine rom and the alliance rom with the same results. I used odin to go back to stock but I want a custom rom. Can anybody help? I've attached a screenshot of my about phone. Also can anybody recommend a Rom that helps with the signal/gps issues that started after KK?
Thanks in Advance!
cjacobs611 said:
Hi Guys I'm trying to install a custom Rom on my phone but have failed 4 times now and have to reach out to the forum for help. I'm on 4.4.2 ota and have rooted w/ towel root sucessfully, installed safestrap 3.72 and 3.75, busybox and super su. I advance wipe and do a clean install. Everytime it says it was successful but when I reboot the screen goes black and does noting. The phone remains on but nobodys home. I've tried the Jasmine rom and the alliance rom with the same results. I used odin to go back to stock but I want a custom rom. Can anybody help? I've attached a screenshot of my about phone. Also can anybody recommend a Rom that helps with the signal/gps issues that started after KK?
Thanks in Advance!
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You need to flash the NC2 kernel via odin. File and instructions can be found here. When following the steps in the OP you can substitute the rom you want for the one you can download from the post.
Also incase you didn't see it in the Safestrap OP you will only be able to use the stock rom slot, if trying to flash on a created slot it won't boot properly or at all (rom slots are only supported on NC2 firmware and previous, the ota is NC4).
Hope this helps.
That's great thank you very much for your help!
Do I just flash the kernal over my stock rom?
cjacobs611 said:
Do I just flash the kernal over my stock rom?
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To be safe you might want to flash the rooted stock rom provided in the post I linked earlier. That rom is the NC4 stock with pre-root and a couple other tweaks Basically the same as OTA but better. Just follow the steps in the OP and you'll be good to go (if you haven't already).
thank you
My pleasure.
Ok I'm sorry I'm still confused. The OP doesn't say to flash with Odin anywhere it says flash with Safe strap. Do I flash the firmware with Odin first then Rom?
cjacobs611 said:
Ok I'm sorry I'm still confused. The OP doesn't say to flash with Odin anywhere it says flash with Safe strap. Do I flash the firmware with Odin first then Rom?
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Anything firmware, kernel or modem related must be flashed in Odin as long as we have a locked bootloader. Just follow the steps as instructed and you'll be fine.
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[How-To] Root N900AUCUDNJ5 4.4.4 (11/21/2014)

This method uses a modified version of the official NJ5 OTA to update and "Keep Root." The file is flashed in Safestrap and the end result is a 100% Stock, Rooted, NJ5 Device. However you must be 100% Stock NC2 (except for root and Safestrap) before proceeding.
**You can Odin back to NC2, after taking the NJ5 update, at anytime**
1. Place the N900A_NC2-NJ5-KeepRoot_OTA.zip onto your ext-sdcard.
2. Boot into Safestrap recovery but Do Not Wipe!
3. Flash the N900A_NC2-NJ5-KeepRoot_OTA.zip in the "Stock Slot." Once flashing is complete press "Home" and reboot into "Download" mode.
4. Last, flash the N900A_NJ5_Stock_Kernel in Odin's PDA slot(AP in Odin v3.09+).
Once complete the phone will reboot then "optimize apps" before completely rebooting. Done!
Notes & Known Issues:
1. Neither User Data nor your Knox Warranty Flag will be affected using this method.
2. Should the update fail consider flashing back to factory stock NC2 using the N900AUCUCNC2_Full_Odin_Tar (flash in Odin's slot(AP in Odin v3.09+)), then root, install Safestrap, and continue with the above process.
3. Safestrap will not function after updating to NJ5 4.4.4. See workaround here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2957471
Alternative Custom ROM Method: (If you don't know the difference between each ROM please use the search function!)
N900A_NJ5_100%_Stock_Rooted_ROM.zip
N900A_NJ5_Stock_Deodexed_Rooted_ROM.zip
1. Use Safestrap's "Backup" function to backup your User Data.
2. Place the ROM onto your ext-sdcard.
3. Reboot into Safestrap recovery then perform an "Advanced Wipe" and wipe everything but your ext-sdcard.
4. Flash the ROM using the "Stock Slot."
5. Once complete press "Home" then "Restore" and restore User Data.
6. Next press "Reboot" and reboot into "Download Mode."
7. Flash the N900A_NJ5_Stock_Kernel.tar.md5 in Odin's PDA slot(AP in Odin v3.09+). Done!
Thanks to @carl1961 for sharing his nandroid backups used to create the ROM's!
Notes & Known Issues:
1. This Custom ROM process will update your Modem, Non-hlos, System, Kernel, Stock Recovery, and Bootloader to NJ5.
2. Safestrap will not function after updating to NJ5 4.4.4. See workaround here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2957471
Good work sir. Ill check it out when im back at a wifi spot to download the OTA. Congrats on being probably the first to figure out a root method so fast.
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killacam1989 said:
Good work sir. Ill check it out when im back at a wifi spot to download the OTA. Congrats on being probably the first to figure out a root method so fast.
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Thanks!
muniz_ri said:
Thanks!
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Now the only thing we missing is how to odin back to the OTA because I'm sure once we update our bootloaders will probably be updated too. And that could be a headache if we want to revert back if we f... up our devices
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killacam1989 said:
Now the only thing we missing is how to odin back to the OTA because I'm sure once we update our bootloaders will probably be updated too. And that could be a headache if we want find the proper files to odin back if we f... up
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Already checked that out. You are still able to do a full odin downgrade back to NC2 even after taking the NJ5 ota update.
muniz_ri said:
Already checked that out. You are still able to do a full odin downgrade back to NC2 even after taking the NJ5 ota update.
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Sh.. yeah.. "now we are in business my friend" -in my arab voice
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So im already in 4.4.4 theres no way to root right now . So i need to flash bakc to 4.4.2 and then do the OP stuff and that would work .. am i right. ..
One thing would this mess up the next update or anthing else
nemesisgx said:
So im already in 4.4.4 theres no way to root right now . So i need to flash bakc to 4.4.2 and then do the OP stuff and that would work .. am i right. ..
One thing would this mess up the next update or anthing else
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Correct, flash back to NC2 then follow the OP. In regard to future updates, yes having root may prevent future updates from successfully flashing.
No i mean having custume update not root i know having root wont let me flash ..but would i have problems updating ota updates later. .
nemesisgx said:
No i mean having custume update not root i know having root wont let me flash ..but would i have problems updating ota updates later. .
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No, flashing a modified ota.zip will not have any adverse effects on future ota's or anything else.
muniz_ri said:
1. Place the N900A_NC2-NJ5-KeepRoot_OTA.zip in the root of your ext sdcard.
2. Boot into Safestrap recovery but Do Not Wipe!
3. Flash the N900A_NC2-NJ5-KeepRoot_OTA.zip in the "Stock Slot." Once flashing is complete press "Home" and reboot into "Download Mode".
4. Last, flash the N900A_NJ5_Stock_Kernel in Odin's PDA slot(AP in Odin v3.09+).
Once complete the phone will reboot then "optimize apps" before completely rebooting. Done!
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I followed the steps above to the letter.
On step #3, when I flash the NJ5 KeepRoot zip in the stock slot, it get a "FAILED" message in Safestrap.
I'm stock, rooted, 4.4.2
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Picture walkthrough?
muniz_ri said:
This method uses a modified version of the official NJ5 OTA update to update and "Keep Root." The file is flashed in Safestrap and the end result is a 100% Stock, Rooted, NJ5 Device. However you will need to be 100% Stock NC2, (except for root and Safestrap), before proceeding.
Here it is: N900A_NC2-NJ5-KeepRoot_OTA.zip
1. Place the N900A_NC2-NJ5-KeepRoot_OTA.zip in the root of your ext sdcard.
2. Boot into Safestrap recovery but Do Not Wipe!
3. Flash the N900A_NC2-NJ5-KeepRoot_OTA.zip in the "Stock Slot." Once flashing is complete press "Home" and reboot into "Download Mode".
4. Last, flash the N900A_NJ5_Stock_Kernel in Odin's PDA slot(AP in Odin v3.09+).
Once complete the phone will reboot then "optimize apps" before completely rebooting. Done!
Notes:
1. Your User Data will not be affected using this method.
2. Should the update fail consider flashing back to factory stock NC2 using the files in the following thread then rooting and installing Safestrap: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703006
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I was just wondering if you could put some photos up of your ATT Note 3 doing this update to 4.4.4 by flashing it. I have rooted my note 3 ATT version, however I've never used Safestrap before. I'd like to give it a go, but I'm not sure I'll do all the steps correctly unless I have the photos or video of it being done. Thank you for putting this up btw.
theres a problem im not able to boot to recovery and i don't understand why i fallow all the steps of the OP satrap is install and everything ...is there a step or something wrong
TeldenW said:
I followed the steps above to the letter.
On step #3, when I flash the NJ5 KeepRoot zip in the stock slot, it get a "FAILED" message in Safestrap.
I'm stock, rooted, 4.4.2
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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can you post the error msg.
I am wanting to know if this will work for me. I am on NC2 rooted and safestrap loaded. I tried flashing the keep root file in safestrap but it failed.
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nemesisgx said:
theres a problem im not able to boot to recovery and i don't understand why i fallow all the steps of the OP satrap is install and everything ...is there a step or something wrong
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make sure you install busy box before installing safestrap.
muniz_ri said:
make sure you install busy box before installing safestrap.
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i did and did everything the right way im already on 4.4.4 i did the update and nothing im rooted but im no able to boot on safetrap.
muniz_ri said:
Correct, flash back to NC2 then follow the OP. In regard to future updates, yes having root may prevent future updates from successfully flashing.
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Hey does Safestrap work? It was designed for 4.4.2 and idk if 4.4.4 would break it. Had somebody on the safestrap forum say he couldn't boot into safestrap
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nemesisgx said:
i did and did everything the right way im already on 4.4.4 i did the update and nothing im rooted but im no able to boot on safetrap.
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Do you get the safstrap recovery menu when you reboot your phone? Sounds like you did it correctly but i need more info to triage
muniz_ri said:
can you post the error msg.
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I can sure try. I don't think that I can screen capture when in SafeStrap, but I'll figure something out.

Xposed and Safestrap on Lollipop?

I recently upgraded today from 4.4.2 to 5.0 OC4 and kept root using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...0-keeproot-t3068546/post59791648#post59791648
However, I had no Idea it would be so hard (impossible?) to get xposed back. Is there any way in which I could install xposed ARM without having a custom recovery on my verizon G900V running lollipop?
I also read an article on another website that said you can flash safestrap with odin, go into safestrap, install anything necessary, and then reflash current ROM? I am not TOO knowledgable with all of this, however I have found my way around all this enough to ensure myself root and all needed features. Any help or information would be amazing.
Article: http://www.droidforums.net/threads/galaxy-s5-safestrap-after-the-lollipop-update.279867/
I was considering flashing the xposed ARM file with flashfire, however I read someone else was stuck in a bootloop who tried this. Would this not work? Is there any method? I was also looking into flash gordon which lets you flash .zip files without requiring custom recovery. Thanks!
EDIT: Just did some more research and found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/nc1-flasher-odin-to-safestrap-t3082620
It seems as if its possible, however this thread is for the OC3 version, while I flashed the OC4... Anyone out there done anything like this before, or knows how to provide the needed steps? Thanks again.
Go to the xposed thread and read any comment at all. It doesn't work on touchwiz based lollipop architecture. PERIOD. you didn't need a new thread in this forum to learn that...
I see, is there some way that I could downgrade. I've been looking into that for awhile now to go back to my 4.4.2 but there's a ton of methods and I am not sure which is required for my device. I canno't seem to find a specific method for my g900v s5. Thanks for you're reply, and I hope I can downgrade.
synkro1 said:
I see, is there some way that I could downgrade. I've been looking into that for awhile now to go back to my 4.4.2 but there's a ton of methods and I am not sure which is required for my device. I canno't seem to find a specific method for my g900v s5. Thanks for you're reply, and I hope I can downgrade.
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You can use this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3088571 it might need some modification for 4.4.2, however.
synkro1 said:
I see, is there some way that I could downgrade.j I've been looking into that for awhile now to go back to my 4.4.2 but there's a ton of methods and I am not sure which is required for my device. I canno't seem to find a specific method for my g900v s5. Thanks for you're reply, and I hope I can downgrade.
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You can go up and down as often as you like. I would Odin the NCG tar from the link below and reroot.
You probably still have safestrap. You could try this first. Go to download mode and Odin the NE9 kernel. When your phone starts booting up you should see the safestrap option to boot into recovery. Boot into recovery, install a rooted NE9 ROM of your choice. Boot back into download mode via safestrap and Odin the NE9 firmware. Let your phone boot all the way up and you should be good to go. Use NCG kernels and firmware-roms if you would rather be on NGC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ment/stock-collection-kernels-modems-t2842069
If safestrap doesn't show up, Odin the full NCG tar file and reroot your phone.
Thanks so much for your help, the only problem is I never installed safestrap on my phone. So I do not currently have safe strap, or any custom recovery. So i can just use the odin method then, correct?
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synkro1 said:
Thanks so much for your help, the only problem is I never installed safestrap on my phone. So I do not currently have safe strap, or any custom recovery. So i can just use the odin method then, correct?
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Yes, sir. That would be correct. Since you are rooted, there is an app called Flashfire you could use that doesn't even require a computer but if you are familiar with Odin that is a good way to go as well.
I have flashfire installed, in fact I used it to upgrade to lollipop. What settings should I use with flashfire to downgrade to lollipop? Do i have to clear cache or anything? And will the file from the notes #4 from here work?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...0-keeproot-t3068546/post59791648#post59791648
synkro1 said:
I have flashfire installed, in factj I used it to upgrade to lollipop. What settings should I use with flashfire to downgrade to lollipop? Do i have to clear cache or anything? And will the file from the notes #4 from here work?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...0-keeproot-t3068546/post59791648#post59791648
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What ROM do you want to have on your phone?
Just a normal stock 4.4.2 ROM works fine for me.
synkro1 said:
Just a normal stock 4.4.2 ROM works fine for me.
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Download this ROM onto your SD card. I prefer deodex
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2793931
Download the NGC retail firmware from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ment/stock-collection-kernels-modems-t2842069
In Flashfire, select firmware and navigate to your firmware. Just check boot and recovery
Next select zip-ota, navigate to your ROM. Leave auto mount unchecked.
Select firmware again. This time check boot, recovery, modem, and firmware. Flashfire will ask if you want them in separate zips. Click yes
Now select wipe. Check everything but SD card.
Now arrange everything in this order
Wipe
Firmware-boot recovery
Zip-rom
Firmware modem firmware
Firmware-boot recovery
Ever root- inject supersu
Boot normal
That should do it. You should be rooted on 4.4.2
Tulsadiver said:
Download this ROM onto your SD card. I prefer deodex
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2793931
Download the NGC retail firmware from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ment/stock-collection-kernels-modems-t2842069
In Flashfire, select firmware and navigate to your firmware. Just check boot and recovery
Next select zip-ota, navigate to your ROM. Leave auto mount unchecked.
Select firmware again. This time check boot, recovery, modem, and firmware. Flashfire will ask if you want them in separate zips. Click yes
Now select wipe. Check everything but SD card.
Now arrange everything in this order
Wipe
Firmware-boot recovery
Zip-rom
Firmware modem firmware
Firmware-boot recovery
Ever root- inject supersu
Boot normal
That should do it. You should be rooted on 4.4.2
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Ur amazing. I'll try it and let you know. Thanks so much for your help.
Thanks so much! It worked perfectly! I had a problem initially after installing towelroot and xposed and got an error when rebooting the phone called "Process system isn't responding". My phone kept freezing and was super slow because of this. I believe it was due to me restoring contacts from titanium backup. I restored the contacts system app as a whole. I didn't realize that at the time however, and just system restored my phone again, and did everything the same yet didn't restore my contacts, and the message is now gone. I am not running root with xposed on 4.4.2. Your amazing!

I need help with installing the Alliance ROM PLEASE.

EDIT: I have successfully installed the Alliance ROM. Here's how i did it.
Prerequisites:
Your phone at at least 50% battery
A charge cable
MicroSD card that you can plug into your computer
Odin 3.09
SafeStrap, version 3.75 APK on your MicroSD card
Alliance ROM on your MicroSD card
NCG tar.md5 (the big file, not the kernel)
I started off on a rooted 5.0 VZW Galaxy S5. After some confusion, I downgraded to NCG (4.4.2) using Odin. After doing that, I went to Towelroot, got the APK, rooted, downloaded SuperSU from the play store (I had to sign into google at this point), installed it's binaries (NORMALLY! Don't choose the TWRP method), rebooted when it asked me to. From there, I installed BusyBox from the play store and installed it within the app. Then I installed Safestrap (version 3.75), which I had on my MicroSD card. I used the app My Files to navigate to my MicroSD and installed the APK. Then I installed it within the app, and when the "reboot to recovery" button worked, I rebooted into SafeStrap recovery mode. At this point, the Alliance ROM zip file should ALREADY BE ON YOUR MICROSD CARD, WHICH SHOULD BE IN YOUR PHONE. Now, you're going to press the INSTALL button to the top right in Safestrap recovery, and you're going to navigate to your MicroSD card. It might be already opened to that. Then you're gonna select the Alliance ROM and flash it. After it successfully flashes, reboot into download mode (if for some reason you aren't able to do it immediately, you get into download mode by holding volume down, home button, and power button at the same time). Now, using Odin, you're gonna flash the firmware that the instructions in the Alliance thread tells you to (here's the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver.../rom-alliancerom-build-3-rom-control-t2818632). If everything works, it's gonna take a couple of minutes, optimize apps, and boot.
Huge thanks to Beans and his team for creating the Alliance mod, and huge thanks to Tulsadiver for helping me get through the process during my confusion.
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Hi. I'll cut to the chase. I was an idiot and thought I could just flash the Alliance ROM from my SD card, but my phone is currently a factory restored 5.0. So, after unsuccessfully flashing Alliance ROM, I thought, well, I probably need to be on 4.4.2 to do this. So, what I'm wondering is, do I need to go back down to 4.4.2 to install Alliance ROM? And do I need Safestrap recovery to do it, or can I do it from stock recovery (home button+volUp+Power)? I did a lot of digging in the Alliance ROM post and there were no posts regarding my problem/question, probably because they're all experienced and I'm not (this is my first time trying to flash a custom ROM).
It SOUNDS like I need to flash a full stock tar using Odin, is that correct? Once I do that, I would be on stock wiped 4.4.2, I assume. From there, could I flash the Alliance ROM and continue with the instructions? Or do I need to root first and get safestrap and all that crap? I feel like Beans was really vague with his instructions on installing ROMs, but whatever. Please help though, I'm kind of stuck in the middle of this with a softbricked phone.
Thank you so much in advance, I appreciate it.
~isra
EDIT: Also, I was on ROOTED 5.0 Lollipop just before this. I just got so sick of lollipop, I was ready for something different. So here we are. To confirm, my phone is the standard retail SM-G900VZW model.
EDIT2: Apparently App Ops and SuperSU survived the wipe and, after downloading Root Checker, I can confirm that I'm still rooted... Huh.
israphial said:
Hi. I'll cut to the chase. I was an idiot and thought I could just flash the Alliance ROM from my SD card, but my phone is currently a factory restored 5.0. So, after unsuccessfully flashing Alliance ROM, I thought, well, I probably need to be on 4.4.2 to do this. So, what I'm wondering is, do I need to go back down to 4.4.2 to install Alliance ROM? And do I need Safestrap recovery to do it, or can I do it from stock recovery (home button+volUp+Power)? I did a lot of digging in the Alliance ROM post and there were no posts regarding my problem/question, probably because they're all experienced and I'm not (this is my first time trying to flash a custom ROM).
It SOUNDS like I need to flash a full stock tar using Odin, is that correct? Once I do that, I would be on stock wiped 4.4.2, I assume. From there, could I flash the Alliance ROM and continue with the instructions? Or do I need to root first and get safestrap and all that crap? I feel like Beans was really vague with his instructions on installing ROMs, but whatever. Please help though, I'm kind of stuck in the middle of this with a softbricked phone.
Thank you so much in advance, I appreciate it.
~isra
EDIT: Also, I was on ROOTED 5.0 Lollipop just before this. I just got so sick of lollipop, I was ready for something different. So here we are. To confirm, my phone is the standard retail SM-G900VZW model.
EDIT2: Apparently App Ops and SuperSU survived the wipe and, after downloading Root Checker, I can confirm that I'm still rooted... Huh.
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Download busybox from play store. Install it. Install safestrap. Once recovery is installed, go into recovery, install alliance, from within safestrap, boot into download mode and flash the full firmware Odin tar.
Tulsadiver said:
Download busybox from play store. Install it. Install safestrap. Once recovery is installed, go into recovery, install alliance, from within safestrap, boot into download mode and flash the full firmware Odin tar.
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Wait, so I don't need to downgrade my phone? Keep in mind I'm on stock rooted 5.0, which just got factory reset so I got nothing except for the root. Also, what full firmware odin tar are you referring to? NE9? This one: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23610159112652201
Or this one: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23622183712472727
I'm getting these links from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ment/stock-collection-kernels-modems-t2842069
I really appreciate you replying. Thank you.
The first one. That firmware will downgrade you to NE9.
Tulsadiver said:
The first one. That firmware will downgrade you to NE9.
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Ok, so I don't need to downgrade to install the ROM. Got it. Thank you. Is there anything else I should know?
Not that I know of. ROM installations are different so always refer to their installation instructions. Some will say to flash the firmware first. The op knows best. Alliance NE9 says to do a full wipe (everything but SD card). Install the ROM, reboot to download mode ( don't hit reboot system). Once in download mode, flash the firmware tar and let your phone reboot.
Tulsadiver said:
Not that I know of. ROM installations are different so always refer to their installation instructions. Some will say to flash the firmware first. The op knows best. Alliance NE9 says to do a full wipe (everything but SD card). Install the ROM, reboot to download mode ( don't hit reboot system). Once in download mode, flash the firmware tar and let your phone reboot.
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So, I installed Safestrap and did all that, but when I press the reboot into recovery button, it just reboots the phone normally. It doesn't go into safestrap recovery. Am I supposed to hold some buttons or something?
Did safestrap ask for SuperSU permissions? Did you install busy box? You can't just download the app.
Tulsadiver said:
Did safestrap ask for SuperSU permissions? Did you install busy box? You can't just download the app.
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Yes, I've installed BusyBox and given SS root permissions. I installed the APK 3.75 Safestrap that I used to get into SS recovery when I was getting to rooted 5.0 a while back, so I know that the APK isn't corrupt or anything like that.
I forgot. You are on lollipop. You need to flash the NE9 kernel first ( via Odin). You already have safestrap but it doesn't work on lollipop. After you flash the NE9 kernel you will have the option to boot into recovery. Have alliance on your SD card ready to install.
Tulsadiver said:
I forgot. You are on lollipop. You need to flash the NE9 kernel first ( via Odin). You already have safestrap but it doesn't work on lollipop. After you flash the NE9 kernel you will have the option to boot into recovery. Have alliance on your SD card ready to install.
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Found a "NE9 Stock tar.md5". Does that sound right? DL is here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23578570567721275
Found a "NE9 Stock tar.md5". Does that sound right? DL is here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23578570567721275
israphial said:
Found a "NE9 Stock tar.md5". Does that sound right? DL is here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23578570567721275
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That is it.
Tulsadiver said:
That is it.
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Thank you. I'm going to flash the kernel then, then I'll get back to you if anything comes up. Again, I really appreciate you helping me. Thank you.
Tulsadiver said:
That is it.
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It booted into stock recovery mode after odin successfully flashed NE9. Now do I install the ROM from stock recovery, or do I boot the phone and get to Safestrap to install the ROM from Safestrap recovery? I am currently in recovery mode.
You must not have had safestrap on your phone after all. Can you get back to download mode? You probably need to flash your lollipop kernel to get back to lollipop.
Tulsadiver said:
You must not have had safestrap on your phone after all. Can you get back to download mode? You probably need to flash your lollipop kernel to get back to lollipop.
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I definitely had safestrap. Though, here's something: Everyone talks about a menu that pops up during boot that allows you to enter either safestrap recovery, or boot, and I've never had/seen that menu, even when I was rooting 5.0. Yes, my BusyBox worked and was properly installed, and yes, I had Safestrap recovery installed.
I just tried rebooting and it after sitting at the first screen for a while, it rebooted quickly and went back into recovery mode. What if I try installing Alliance from recovery mode? Will it work?
israphial said:
I definitely had safestrap. Though, here's something: Everyone talks about a menu that pops up during boot that allows you to enter either safestrap recovery, or boot, and I've never had/seen that menu, even when I was rooting 5.0. Yes, my BusyBox worked and was properly installed, and yes, I had Safestrap recovery installed.
I just tried rebooting and it after sitting at the first screen for a while, it rebooted quickly and went back into recovery mode. What if I try installing Alliance from recovery mode? Will it work?
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I've never been on stock recovery before. I think it has to be a custom recovery. You might need to pull your battery and let it set for a bit and see if you can get into download mode.
Tulsadiver said:
I've never been on stock recovery before. I think it has to be a custom recovery. You might need to pull your battery and let it set for a bit and see if you can get into download mode.
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I can get into download mode perfectly fine. I'm going to kernel back to 5.0 then...
But what do I do now? Should I downgrade to 4.4.2 with the stock firmware once I successfully boot 5.0?
EDIT: Yup, booted 5.0 perfectly fine. Now what? Downgrade to 4.4.2 and flash the NE9 Kernel?
Proof that Safestrap is on my phone:
http://imgur.com/cGa1v1n

[Q] Please Help! Cant Flash Recovery!

Ive been going so crazy trying for about 15 hours total now trying to root and get a custom recovery on my phone, for some reason, nothing will work. I do have alot of experience with rooting and ive done just about everything, attempting to get this phone to flash a custom recovery.
ATT SGH i337
4.4.4
KTU84P.I337UCUFNJ4
I am currently rooted, but i cannot get a custom recovery. I have just tried this method,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297033
with that tool, however after running it, it successfully flashes the recovery, then boots me into the Odin Mode Download screen with the picture of an android. Same thing with trying any other method of flashing a recovery. Can someone please tell me how to get past this, im so exhausted trying to fix this. I tried factory reseting my phone from the phones settings and even that brought me back to the download screen with a picture of an android. I cant get into any recovery at all! Stock or custom it sends me back to that screen.
How can i flash a custom recovery and get this working? Thank you guys in advance
You're on nj4. Safestrap is the only recovery you're going to be able to use. Read the stickies in the general forum
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jd1639 said:
You're on nj4. Safestrap is the only recovery you're going to be able to use. Read the stickies in the general forum
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i installed the proper NJ4 safestrap apk and pressed install recovery, however it still says it is not installed "reboot to recovery" is greyed out. Upon booting into recovery, i am still stuck in Odin mode. Anyway for me to stop odin mode from continuing to come up instead of recovery?.
I would guess the system is looking for stock recovery, and it isn't there any more due to your flashing the CWM OUDHS recovery and/or TWRP. You probably need to put the stock recovery back.
I know and I've been trying to find out a way to do that. Could you help me if that's what I need to do? Once I reinstall stock recovery will safestrap work?
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I would suggest that you flash nb1 then nb4, root and install safestrap. At this point, a clean install is your best bet. Refer to this thread in the general forum.
U can get stock recovery back by either flashing the whole stock firmware via odin or extracting the recovery image from the firmware and flashing it by its self via odin I don't know anything about safestrap as I'm on Canadian version some one else can hopfully help u out with tht
I read what you posted and I don't entirely understand. Could you point to me to a download a maybe dumb it down a bit?
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How would I do that..
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xstokerx said:
U can get stock recovery back by either flashing the whole stock firmware via odin or extracting the recovery image from the firmware and flashing it by its self via odin I don't know anything about safestrap as I'm on Canadian version some one else can hopfully help u out with tht
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Exxoriscism said:
I read what you posted and I don't entirely understand. Could you point to me to a download a maybe dumb it down a bit?
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Exxoriscism said:
How would I do that..
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You are on NJ4 (I337UCUFNJ4). There is no flashable "whole stock firmware" for that version. There is a flashable whole stock firmware for the NJ1 version (I337UCUFNB1). Also, there is no easy way to "extract the recovery image out of the firmware and flash it by its self via odin." The reason for this is that you need a .tar archive to flash in odin, so if you extract just the recovery, you then need a Linux box, or a Linux virtual machine running on your windows pc to make the tar file from it.
This is why I suggested that you flash the NB1 full stock firmware, and then flash the upgrade to NJ4 from stock recovery, as outlined in the guide I linked.
As you asked for a little more detailed help, I'll try to walk you through following the Odin to Stock, Updating, Rooting, and Safestrap Guide.
First, read through post #1 and the FAQ in post #3. Next, you need to decide what version you want to end up with. Let's assume that you want to end with NJ4 -- KitKat 4.4.4. (If you want to end with OC3 -- Lollipop 5.0.1, then the instructions are a little different.)
In post #2, under the section titled NJ4 -- KitKat 4.4.4 expand Step 1 - Odin to stock. The files you need to download are at the top of this section. Follow the steps; they are pretty self explanatory. Part 1 installs full stock NB1, and Part 2 installs the upgrade to NJ4.
You are now on fully stock NJ4. If you want to root and install Safestrap, expand Step 2 -- Root and Install Safestrap. The files you need to download are at the top of this section. Again, the steps are pretty self explanatory.
That's it. If you want to now install custom firmware, you are ready, or you can just stay on stock if you prefer.
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You are on NJ4 (I337UCUFNJ4). There is no flashable "whole stock firmware" for that version. There is a flashable whole stock firmware for the NJ1 version (I337UCUFNB1). Also, there is no easy way to "extract the recovery image out of the firmware and flash it by its self via odin." The reason for this is that you need a .tar archive to flash in odin, so if you extract just the recovery, you then need a Linux box, or a Linux virtual machine running on your windows pc to make the tar file from it.
This is why I suggested that you flash the NB1 full stock firmware, and then flash the upgrade to NJ4 from stock recovery, as outlined in the guide I linked.
As you asked for a little more detailed help, I'll try to walk you through following the Odin to Stock, Updating, Rooting, and Safestrap Guide.
First, read through post #1 and the FAQ in post #3. Next, you need to decide what version you want to end up with. Let's assume that you want to end with NJ4 -- KitKat 4.4.4. (If you want to end with OC3 -- Lollipop 5.0.1, then the instructions are a little different.)
In post #2, under the section titled NJ4 -- KitKat 4.4.4 expand Step 1 - Odin to stock. The files you need to download are at the top of this section. Follow the steps; they are pretty self explanatory. Part 1 installs full stock NB1, and Part 2 installs the upgrade to NJ4.
You are now on fully stock NJ4. If you want to root and install Safestrap, expand Step 2 -- Root and Install Safestrap. The files you need to download are at the top of this section. Again, the steps are pretty self explanatory.
That's it. If you want to now install custom firmware, you are ready, or you can just stay on stock if you prefer.
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Yes and i did everything under the NJ4 Kitkat 4.4.4 section. I am rooted and everything worked except for safestrap. I open it and press install recovery and everytime it finishes it says "state:Not Installed". And reboot to recovery is greyed out. Upon manually rebooting into recovery mode, i am in normal stock recovery.
I cant use the selinux mode changer it says. To root i didnt use towelroot because installing the NC1 kernel disables my wifi connection, and since the phone has no service, i had to use KingO Root. I have confirmed root access using root checker. But Safestrap wont work.
What do i do? Is safestrap not working because i didnt root with towelroot? I assumed it didnt quite matter how i rooted. If it is because of towelroot, then how do i get towel root to work while on the NC1 kernel with no wifi and no cell service?
Update: I found a selinux Mode changer apk on xda and installed it. I tried it and safestrap still would not work and said "not installed". I also reflashed the NC1 Kernel and the same thing happened. I booted into recovery for confirmation.
I guess its maybe because i didnt root with towelroot? But it is impossible without phone service because flashing NC1 disables the wifi. Please reply as soon as you can
I can't help with your current issue with safestrap because I don't own this phone. I have worked on my son's S4, and a couple of others that have come through my hands. I have performed the exact process you just used with no issues.
I would suggest you post your issues in the guide thread where someone who has more experience with safestrap can help.
creepyncrawly said:
I can't help with your current issue with safestrap because I don't own this phone. I have worked on my son's S4, and a couple of others that have come through my hands. I have performed the exact process you just used with no issues.
I would suggest you post your issues in the guide thread where someone who has more experience with safestrap can help.
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Can i move this thread?
Exxoriscism said:
Can i move this thread?
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You can't move this thread into that one. But you can state your issue in that thread and then provide a link to this one for more info.
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