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I don't like TouchWiz, like most I thing its a bad copy of iOS.
Can we completely remove TouchWiz? I understand that if I install LauncherPro touchwiz il still work in the background...if we root SGS can we remove touchwiz? if yes how can we remove it?
Not unless if you root your phone, and not until a stock android ROM is available for Galaxy S.
I want to root my SGS but after I root the sgs how can I remove touchwiz?
deadmau said:
I want to root my SGS but after I root the sgs how can I remove touchwiz?
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snapper.fishes said:
not until a stock android ROM is available for Galaxy S.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but...
Parts of i9000's applications/services rely on code that exist in the TouchWiz package. Until a stock android ROM is released that can replace these code parts entirely removing TouchWiz won't be possible (without breaking your phone, that is).
steffe.jst said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but...
Parts of i9000's applications/services rely on code that exist in the TouchWiz package. Until a stock android ROM is released that can replace these code parts entirely removing TouchWiz won't be possible (without breaking your phone, that is).
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I might just confuse the issue, by "stock" I read "vanilla" (I know how to root, but definitely don't know the lingo). I also assume that some functions he'd be ok with staying similar, like how the ROM communicates with the phone's radio and makes calls. The available ROMs should definitely accomplish this, even if leaving some of the functionality untouched.
I don't know all the ROMs available, and know even less about the underlying functionality save but 1 or 2. And, specific to how I might be confusing "stock" with "vanilla" but he didn't specifically ask for Vanilla, so wouldn't he just need a ROM that isn't TouchWiz UI to accomplish his main goal? He's definitely trying to eliminate at least some, if not most or all, of the wasted background software functions that his phone is currently doing if he uses an "overlay UI" (sorry again for lack of terminology). And maybe I haven't helped anyone even point him in the right direction.
alovell83 said:
I might just confuse the issue, by "stock" I read "vanilla" (I know how to root, but definitely don't know the lingo). I also assume that some functions he'd be ok with staying similar, like how the ROM communicates with the phone's radio and makes calls. The available ROMs should definitely accomplish this, even if leaving some of the functionality untouched.
I don't know all the ROMs available, and know even less about the underlying functionality save but 1 or 2. And, specific to how I might be confusing "stock" with "vanilla" but he didn't specifically ask for Vanilla, so wouldn't he just need a ROM that isn't TouchWiz UI to accomplish his main goal? He's definitely trying to eliminate at least some, if not most or all, of the wasted background software functions that his phone is currently doing if he uses an "overlay UI" (sorry again for lack of terminology). And maybe I haven't helped anyone even point him in the right direction.
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I'm no master of the details, but the way I write stock could indeed be considered vanilla. Basically, stock would be Android 2.1 without any kind of third party Launcher, ie Nexus One style.
The way I've come to understand it is that the "launchers" that come with phones (Sense, TouchWiz) are not only Launchers but also provide a layer to communicate with the hardware.
It should be possible to replace this with custom roms, or in some way replace that layer of communication. But until this is done it won't be possible to simply remove TouchWiz entirely.
There also doesn't seem to be that many ROMs that officially support i9000 yet, though I haven't really looked too deeply.
deadmau said:
Hello
I don't like TouchWiz, like most I thing its a bad copy of iOS.
Can we completely remove TouchWiz? I understand that if I install LauncherPro touchwiz il still work in the background...if we root SGS can we remove touchwiz? if yes how can we remove it?
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I've just installed LauncherPro, using Home Switcher to select LauncherPro as default, the TouchWiz Start process doesn't seem to launch at boot. Seems perfectly okay to me.
MoWa22 said:
I've just installed LauncherPro, using Home Switcher to select LauncherPro as default, the TouchWiz Start process doesn't seem to launch at boot. Seems perfectly okay to me.
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You're just not seeing it, in more than one sense of the word. It's still consuming memory, which, I'll assume, is the OPs concern. We all would like a bit more memory with a bit less bloat.
The best way to test is, don't use LauncherPro, check your memory with all the tasks killed. Then, reboot with your typically setting with LauncherPro and Home Switcher, your available memory will be lower by about 20mb (I know not much, but we are probably trying to eliminate more than 20MB of wasted memory by eliminating a lot of the bloat TW might be adding.
Hi guys,
Sorry if this seems like a silly question, but the mail app, camera apps, and customised explorer are the ONLY parts of the official Sense builds I'd actually miss.
The answer may be around somewhere, but I haven't seen it yet; is it possible to get these apps by themselves for use on a NON-SENSE ROM. So for example if I was to go to Oxygen, I'd get all the benefits of an AOSP ROM and the additional speed, but retain the customised camera, internet and mail app.
Honestly everything else I use can be downloaded from the market, its just these apps I miss when I move away from HTC/Leedroid, infact Im quite happy with Zeam as a launcher.
this has been asked and answered a million times already...
you cant run sense apps on an aosp rom - they require the sense framework to be running, which doesnt exist on a rom that doesnt include sense.
you can run a launcher such as zeam on a sense rom though, and the htc apps should work (dont think the widgets will)
I have looked into some stuff, and I'm getting an idea of what my ROM is going to look like.
ROM details
Name: Entity
Theme: Entity white/blue (white/blue [very] minimalistic theme)
Based on: Cyanogenmod 7.1.0 (Android 2.3.4) - will be changed to a stable version as soon as available
Kernel: Jame Bond sabai dee 1.5.9
Features
- Revamped homescreen. I will use ADW Launcher for that.
- New pre-installed apps. I'm planning to include paid apps, but if I do, I won't be able to upload it here anymore. Haven't found a solution
- Heavily themed. EVERYTHING is themed, even all the pre-installed apps
- Revamped settings menu. New layout, removed settings I never use anyway, and added new settings. I will also change the settings menus of pre-installed apps
- Voodoo Sound
- BLN
- No ads
- More theme colors in the future!
Details
I want my ROM to be perfect for me. It resembles what I want. The reason that my theme has the same name, is because the theme is the biggest part of the ROM. My goal is to create a fresh-looking ROM. All pre-installed apps will look the same, making it more of an entity, hence the name. It will also be much clearer than stock ROM or CM7.
Because I'm making this ROM for myself, it is possible that I deleted some things you might not want me to delete. I'm sorry, but I can't do anything about that. I'm planning on uploading my ROM, but that's all. I will not take requests. What I will do, is include a list of all the things I've changed compared to CM7, so you can check if you want my ROM. If you have my taste, you will like my ROM. If not, that's not a big deal. I'm not uploading it because I want many people to use my ROM. I'm uploading it because... why not? Maybe people like it. Who knows.
I'll upload three files:
- The whole ROM, excluding Google Apps (don't know why CM and I can't include Gapps, but NSCollab can...?) and paid apps.
- The themed Gapps. Can't upload the themed paid apps.
- The theme
It might be possible with Theme Chooser to theme the paid apps. That way you can just download/buy the paid apps, and the Theme Chooser will theme them. That's something for the future though.
Cool man, im pretty much doing the same thing as you except im making a kernel
Wish you luck, ill be following this thread
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Igotsanevo4g said:
Cool man, im pretty much doing the same thing as you except im making a kernel
Wish you luck, ill be following this thread
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Cool, good luck to you too!
It looks like you are more experienced. I have no experience at all except for some rooting experience. I'm still suprised that I managed to root my device without much help . Other than that I installed some custom ROMs but that isn't difficult.
I saw you have experience with making some basic ROMs. Regarding the ROM making, this is what I will do:
- Experiment with the HTC Android Kitchen
- Change the settings menu (+ settings menus on pre-installed apps):
Change the text on buttons
Change the order in which the buttons are shown
Remove some buttons that I don't use anyway
Move buttons from one section to another
Add some settings (the hardest one probably). For example I would like to add the voodoo settings in the settings menu
- That's about it I guess, don't really know what I could change with my knowledge.
The thing is, I'm mainly after changing the looks and experience. My goal is to make it look like nothing you've seen before. I want it to be clean, fresh, and it must look like it's one whole. And because I'm mainly after changing the looks, what else is there to change other than settings on pre-installed apps and some things HTC Android Kitchen can do?
So that's what I wanted to ask you: what is something you did when making basic ROMs?
Updated the first post. I'm kind of getting an idea of what I want.
Androyed said:
Cool, good luck to you too!
It looks like you are more experienced. I have no experience at all except for some rooting experience. I'm still suprised that I managed to root my device without much help . Other than that I installed some custom ROMs but that isn't difficult.
I saw you have experience with making some basic ROMs. Regarding the ROM making, this is what I will do:
- Experiment with the HTC Android Kitchen
- Change the settings menu (+ settings menus on pre-installed apps):
Change the text on buttons
Change the order in which the buttons are shown
Remove some buttons that I don't use anyway
Move buttons from one section to another
Add some settings (the hardest one probably). For example I would like to add the voodoo settings in the settings menu
- That's about it I guess, don't really know what I could change with my knowledge.
The thing is, I'm mainly after changing the looks and experience. My goal is to make it look like nothing you've seen before. I want it to be clean, fresh, and it must look like it's one whole. And because I'm mainly after changing the looks, what else is there to change other than settings on pre-installed apps and some things HTC Android Kitchen can do?
So that's what I wanted to ask you: what is something you did when making basic ROMs?
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First of all i'll start by saying that putting paid apps on there and releasing it in any form is a major no-no. Do NOT do that.
Most of the stuff ive messed with is sense roms back on my Evo. Things like removing sense, zip aline on boot, deodexing, re-directing the path of some apps, and playing with some status bar mods and other stuff im probably forgetting.
Im not sure what you mean by "buttons" which buttons are you talking about? Menu buttons? As for adding apps in the settings menu, i dont think it will be to complicated. For a start you can look at a stock CM7 build and track down how they link ADW to the settings menu.
Dont worry about making a masterpiece of a rom, we all gotta start somewhere and im not much more versed in this than you
Needless to say, dont hesitate to Gtalk/G+ me [[email protected]] and ill *try* to help you out
Igotsanevo4g said:
First of all i'll start by saying that putting paid apps on there and releasing it in any form is a major no-no. Do NOT do that.
Most of the stuff ive messed with is sense roms back on my Evo. Things like removing sense, zip aline on boot, deodexing, re-directing the path of some apps, and playing with some status bar mods and other stuff im probably forgetting.
Im not sure what you mean by "buttons" which buttons are you talking about? Menu buttons? As for adding apps in the settings menu, i dont think it will be to complicated. For a start you can look at a stock CM7 build and track down how they link ADW to the settings menu.
Dont worry about making a masterpiece of a rom, we all gotta start somewhere and im not much more versed in this than you
Needless to say, dont hesitate to Gtalk/G+ me [[email protected]] and ill *try* to help you out
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I already thought paid apps wouldn't be a good idea. I'll do that only for myself then (since I already paid for them).
With buttons I mean the buttons in the settings apk. Like the button to turn on/off WiFi. But it looks you already know what I mean. Tracking down how they added ADW is an awesome idea, thanks a lot for that! That will probably also help me with the other things I want to add/change/remove in the settings apk.
I'm really excited about it, and playing around with the HTC Android ROM kitchen today gave me good hopes. When I encounter a problem, I'll contact you.
Thanks!
Updated the first post. I think the ROM name is going to be Entity.
Hi friends.
I've been mooving around so many roms and now I finally know, that stock and stock like roms (IN MY CASE) will always end up messed up and laggy and buggy and unstable and and and...
So now I stick with MIUI, which in fact satisfies me. Except the notion, that I really like the messaging, and moreover contact book that go with the stock.
They have some really nice UI features that I love.
So the bottom line: Is there a way, I could extract those apps from Stock and install into MIUI?
If so, then how?
Installing is easy. Harder is extracting.
Any hints?
You can extract it from any CWM ROM based on Stock, but I do not think it will work -> missing Samsung frameworks, libs, etc.
Oh, that easy. Will give a try.
Yeah,I know that it will probably fail
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I'd be very interested to know if you had any success with this. I've just flashed CM9RC2 and loving it, but I'm finding the dialler, contacts and calender apps to be a real let-down compared to the stock Samsung ones (so much so I might have to go back to stock ROM)
No-one has ported them - they 100% work.
I too miss these features (and the music player) enough that I went back to stock roms.
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In the Theme & App session there is a MMS.apk modify that look very similar to Samsung default version.
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Might as well do a thread, can you theme the stock rom as closely to AOSP as possible?
Can you have the AOSP dialer working? It seems stock rom has the telephony service inside the dialer, so replacing it should either break the phone function and/or disable the data service.
How about changing the LG-look into the holo-look? Anything to change the white background?
How about dpi? It seems 360 (75% of 480) breaks a lot of LG stock apps, including the phone ones. 380 on the other hand does not, but breaks knock on. Any personal experiences?
Share anything you have on the topic.