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[Q] Buying a Samsung Galaxy S 4 Duos (i9502) from China to be used in Europe

I would really love getting the dual SIM version of the Samsung Galaxy S 4 as it would allow me to carry one less phone with me. But in the end I'm not sure if the pros outweight the cons.
Pros:
- Able to use two SIMs in the same phone
- Exynos 5 Octa, which will see very limited availability in Europe
Cons:
- China Unicom specific version
- No international warranty outside of China
- UI may not be available in English?
- Will be stuck with the stock Chinese firmware as the ROMs for i9500 / i9505 will not work on this
Is anyone else considering buying an i9502 to be used outside of China?

liviuv said:
I would really love getting the dual SIM version of the Samsung Galaxy S 4 as it would allow me to carry one less phone with me. But in the end I'm not sure if the pros outweight the cons.
Pros:
- Able to use two SIMs in the same phone
- Exynos 5 Octa, which will see very limited availability in Europe
Cons:
- China Unicom specific version
- No international warranty outside of China
- UI may not be available in English?
- Will be stuck with the stock Chinese firmware as the ROMs for i9500 / i9505 will not work on this
Is anyone else considering buying an i9502 to be used outside of China?
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I would like to have i9502 and I have the same questions and worrying about the warranty outside of China. I'm gonna wait till it is available on eBay. I hope that some companies could give at least 12 months international warranty for this device.

I am thinking of buying one for use world wide. I assume no one will be developing a custom ROM for this version.
Is there a way to install the Play Store and Gapps?

As the S4 should be highly popular, we might see more developing for the exynos chipset. Once they come out with the aosp base for it, developing for the variants should be easier.
Since i9502 is China based, we should see a MIUI Rom for it soon
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I thought samsung released their official rom for this phone? Doesn't it therefore mean that we can root this without any bugs? I remember the Note 2 dual sim custom rom had bugs on the map and caller id.
Can someone verify that once using the official rom, play store and Google apps will be available?

http://www.hotfile.com/dl/204614115/9393a40/I9502ZNUAMDG_I9502CHUAMDG_CHU.zip.html
Looks like there is one out there

paulsalem said:
I am thinking of buying one for use world wide. I assume no one will be developing a custom ROM for this version.
Is there a way to install the Play Store and Gapps?
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The only way to install Play Store and Google apps is to root the phone. Unfortunately, there's no available rooting method yet for Galaxy I9502. But I'm hopeful that it will be available in the future. Like the Galaxy Note 2 GT-N7102 Dual Sim variant, a working rooting procedure was eventually made available.
I have ordered my Galaxy I9502 and can't wait to get my hands on it.

[email protected] said:
I have ordered my Galaxy I9502 and can't wait to get my hands on it.
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Where did you order it from?

liviuv said:
Where did you order it from?
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China. ..
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nniicckkss said:
China. ..
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I meant to ask from which website you've ordered it. Thanks in advance!

liviuv said:
Where did you order it from?
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I ordered from taobao.com thru an agent in my country. Just need to choose a trustworthy seller. Or you can order from etotalk.com but the price is a little higher and payment method is not safe.
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nniicckkss said:
China. ..
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Unfortunately that's the only place to get it from right now. But hey, it's legit and dual sim. I'm happy

[email protected] said:
Unfortunately that's the only place to get it from right now. But hey, it's legit and dual sim. I'm happy
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So you're gonna live with the fact that you don't have Play Store? Or do you have a work around?

merkava74 said:
So you're gonna live with the fact that you don't have Play Store? Or do you have a work around?
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No, I'm optimistic a rooting tool will be available once this phone is released.

[email protected] said:
I ordered from taobao.com thru an agent in my country. Just need to choose a trustworthy seller. Or you can order from etotalk.com but the price is a little higher and payment method is not safe.
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Unfortunately that's the only place to get it from right now. But hey, it's legit and dual sim. I'm happy
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hey there. would u mind saying, where do u live?! are u sure that china version is gonna work in your country?
I live in europe and really curious if i can use it here...

asheg said:
hey there. would u mind saying, where do u live?! are u sure that china version is gonna work in your country?
I live in europe and really curious if i can use it here...
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Based on offical specs, I'm very sure an unlocked SGS4 I9502 will work in my country and Europe too.
Here's why:
SGS4 I9502 Supported Network Frequency:
WCDMA 850/900/1,900/2100MHz
GSM 850/900/1,800/1900MHz
GSM Coverage:
GSM 900 / GSM 1800 MHz are used in most parts of the world: Europe, Asia, Australia, Middle East, Africa.
Reference: www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
3G Coverage:
In general, the various UMTS bands are deployed as follows:
Band I (W-CDMA 2100) in Europe, India, Africa, Israel (Cellcom, Orange, Pelephone[4]) Asia, Australia (metropolitan Optus and Vodafone), New Zealand (ITU Region 1, 2degrees Vodafone NZ), Thailand (TOT (Thailand)), and Brazil (part of ITU Region 2)
Band II (W-CDMA 1900) in North America and South America (ITU Region 2).
Band IV (W-CDMA 1700 or Advanced Wireless Services) in the United States (T-Mobile USA), Canada (WIND Mobile, Mobilicity, SaskTel, Vidéotron) and Chile (VTR Movil, Nextel Chile)
Band V (W-CDMA 850) in Australia (Telstra NextG, Vodafone), Hong Kong (SmarTone), Thailand (True move and DTAC), New Zealand (XT Mobile Network), Brazil, Canada, the USA, Guatemala, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Dominican Republic (Claro),Venezuela, other parts of South America, Israel (Pelephone,[4] Cellcom[5]), parts of Asia (ITU Region 2 and ITU Region 3), Poland (Sferia)
Band VIII (W-CDMA 900) in Europe, Asia, Australia (Optus and Vodafone regional/country 3G networks), New Zealand (2degrees, Vodafone NZ), Thailand (Advanced Info Service), Dominican Republic (Orange Dominicana), Venezuela (Digitel GSM), Poland (Play and Aero2 HSPA+ Internet only[6])
Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands

I bought mine in China and used it with China Mobile and my US T-Mobile SIM cards installed at the same time. When I landed back on US soil, it automatically switched to use my T-Mobile SIM. I haven't had any problems so far.

Does that mean you have Google apps and play store?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2

liviuv said:
I would really love getting the dual SIM version of the Samsung Galaxy S 4 as it would allow me to carry one less phone with me. But in the end I'm not sure if the pros outweight the cons.
Pros:
- Able to use two SIMs in the same phone
- Exynos 5 Octa, which will see very limited availability in Europe
Cons:
- China Unicom specific version
- No international warranty outside of China
- UI may not be available in English?
- Will be stuck with the stock Chinese firmware as the ROMs for i9500 / i9505 will not work on this
Is anyone else considering buying an i9502 to be used outside of China?
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The UI is available in Chinese, Korean and English on the i9502.

Mindbeats said:
I haven't had any problems so far.
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Can I ask if you have Play Store working?

merkava74 said:
Can I ask if you have Play Store working?
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I'm working on that now. Stock there was go Gapps; you get the Chinese version of their app store 沃商店.

I9500 American SIM Model

I just bought an i9500 purple, and it says that its american sim model, and i want to use it in europe with european sim card.
I tought all i9500 are international ?
Anyone can help me with this, should i return it, or risk and take it in europe ?
i hope for your fast answer guys.

Purple? does the s4 comes in purple? and an american sim model? the i9500 it not meant to be sold in the us
I bought an imported one when i was there ... works fine in europe as it should ...

AvelonTs said:
Purple? does the s4 comes in purple? and an american sim model? the i9500 it not meant to be sold in the us
I bought an imported one when i was there ... works fine in europe as it should ...
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here are the pictures, i was also suprised..

Oh i see it means the whole continent ... apart from that since this is the i9500 it shouldn't be locked to any specific carrier hence all gsm bands are available out of the box which means it should also work in europe no prob ...

AvelonTs said:
Oh i see it means the whole continent ... apart from that since this is the i9500 it shouldn't be locked to any specific carrier hence all gsm bands are available out of the box which means it should also work in europe no prob ...
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Edit : Phone is working in europe, i guess that American SIM Model is written so there is no confusion with CDMA operators....

Note 4 from handtec

They write need to put European sim to make it sim free.
Have some unlcoked for it??
I want order

morell2 said:
They write need to put European sim to make it sim free.
Have some unlcoked for it??
I want order
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For the N910C, works fine with my three sim, they only difference is N910C is exynos with a wolfson dac the N910F being snapdragon 805.
Apart from that they should be the same.
The phone comes sim free and unlocked, so put in whatever micro sim you have.

Sure is unlocked? I will use micro sim of no European countries

morell2 said:
Sure is unlocked? I will use micro sim of no European countries
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It sure is unlocked.... all they mean is that every galaxy note is region locked... this means that the first sim you HAVE to put in it should be one from a European carrier. I don't know carriers from the rest of Europe, but in the UK that means just put ANY sim in from Three, O2, EE, Vodafone, Orange or T-mobile
I received my 910-C from handtec today, popped my three sim in and all is well. Since then, its also had a visit from an EE, and O2 sim, all working just fine

dannstarr said:
It sure is unlocked.... all they mean is that every galaxy note is region locked... this means that the first sim you HAVE to put in it should be one from a European carrier. I don't know carriers from the rest of Europe, but in the UK that means just put ANY sim in from Three, O2, EE, Vodafone, Orange or T-mobile
I received my 910-C from handtec today, popped my three sim in and all is well. Since then, its also had a visit from an EE, and O2 sim, all working just fine
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but i dont have one of this sim

morell2 said:
but i dont have one of this sim
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Well... If you ask handtec, im sure they would open one for you and activate it with a uk sim... It will then ne able to be used where ever you are, with a sim of your choice
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Has anyone actually seen a exynos version against a snapdragon. Can the better sound and camera sensor in the exynos really be identified, can any difference in speed be seen either?

Can I use 2 sim cards? A2001

Hi all,
I live in Morocco and I got the OnePlus 2 A2001 with dual sims, but I just read something in the OnePlus 2 forums about the A2001 version saying that you can't use dual sim cards on this version outside of China. What does this mean? That I can't use 2 sim cards at the same time? Or I can put in the phone 2 sim cards but only choose one in the options that I want to work with.
Thank you!

Silvers91 said:
Hi all,
I live in Morocco and I got the OnePlus 2 A2001 with dual sims, but I just read something in the OnePlus 2 forums about the A2001 version saying that you can't use dual sim cards on this version outside of China. What does this mean? That I can't use 2 sim cards at the same time? Or I can put in the phone 2 sim cards but only choose one in the options that I want to work with.
Thank you!
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Dual sim works as it should but you are bound to chinese networks...

All works perfectly
Yash98 said:
Dual sim works as it should but you are bound to chinese networks...
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I live in Ukraine and I have two sims of local operators (Kyivstar and MTS).
All works perfectly, both calls and data (3G).
Cant tell about LTE - there's no LTE in Ukraine yet

Mine works fine with 2 sim cards and I don't live in China.

I'm using o2 3g hspa+ and EE 2g on the A2001. Vodafone 4g works too apparently.

you can use both sim cards with A2001, you're not bound to "chinese" networks, but rather to asian networks. i live in oman and able to use 2 sim cards. i've heard people from europe that can use both sim cards with A2001 model. It is just what LTE frequency your country operates.
use this website to verify http://www.willmyphonework.net/
Just hope you're not using IAM MOROCCO network as it doesnt support LTE with the ONEPLUS Two

Where to preorder S7 edge dual sim?

Hello. currently I am using S6 edge+ duos HK in UK. All is working perfect. Any idea where to order S7 edge dual sim which will be working in UK?

ebay

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So, do you think all s7 can work with dual sim inserted?
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vivelafrance said:
Frist, there's no "S7 edge dual sim" phone. It's just "S7 edge". And it's HYBRID dual sim, not dual sim. Which means you have to choose between a storage card and a second sim card. You can't have both.
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SM-G935FD is the Hybrid Dual Sim Model.
In Europe we will only see SM-G935F which is NOT a hybrid dual sim.
I hope i am wrong but...

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I don't think. I call Samsung UK and they said that they not planning to release dual sim in UK.
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I think Samsung Galaxy S7 is better than LG G5

geovass said:
SM-G935FD is the Hybrid Dual Sim Model.
In Europe we will only see SM-G935F which is NOT a hybrid dual sim.
I hope i am wrong but...
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you are wrong. All S7 are Hybrid dual sim. If you asked if the S7 was Dual Sim, then no it's not, it's HYBRID Dual Sim.

vivelafrance said:
you are wrong. All S7 are Hybrid dual sim. If you asked if the S7 was Dual Sim, then no it's not, it's HYBRID Dual Sim.
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I am not wrong. My statement was very clear.
Hybrid dual sim is not supported with the UK/EUROPE model SM-G935F.
You may call the sim tray "Hybrid" or whatever, but it will only accommodate your single microSim and your microsSD card.

geovass said:
I am not wrong. My statement was very clear.
Hybrid dual sim is not supported with the UK/EUROPE model SM-G935F.
You may call the sim tray "Hybrid" or whatever, but it will only accommodate your single microSim and your microsSD card.
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AGAIN, YOU ARE WRONG! It DOES! If you know how to use google and keyboard, then research it!

vivelafrance said:
AGAIN, YOU ARE WRONG! It DOES! If you know how to use google and keyboard, then research it!
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Calm down... no need to shout or being rude;
Go here - http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/galaxy-s/galaxy-s7/hardware/ and read the MicroSD information. No dual sim functionality/Dual SIM card - thus no "Hybird dual sim" as i stated on my original comment.
Now, go to http://www.samsung.com/cn/consumer/mobile-phones/smart-phone/galaxy-s/galaxy-s7/hardware/ and read the same paragraph. Dual SIM card is supported.

geovass said:
Calm down... no need to shout or being rude;
Go here - http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/galaxy-s/galaxy-s7/hardware/ and read the MicroSD information. No dual sim functionality/Dual SIM card - thus no "Hybird dual sim" as i stated on my original comment.
Now, go to http://www.samsung.com/cn/consumer/mobile-phones/smart-phone/galaxy-s/galaxy-s7/hardware/ and read the same paragraph. Dual SIM card is supported.
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Look, a friend of mine is a big manager at Vodafone and he's had the phone in his hands (the same they're shipping out) and it is an hybrid one. However, I see what you mean.

Maybe Vodafone in China

S7 edge dual sim
grossermanitu said:
Maybe Vodafone in China
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To me it will be possible to get a "hybrid" sm-G935FD from Russia, India, United Arab Emirates, China, indonesia. ....
Just check the local Samsung web pages:
samsung.com/ae/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/galaxy-s/galaxy-s7/hardware/
and change the country after samnsung.com/
ae is for United Arab Emirates/in for india/cn for China/ru for Russia ......
You will see on those pages the possibility of dual sim.
If you check the french page (fr) or japanese (jp) there is no dual sim option
I am looking for a S7 edge dual sim 64gb and it's going to be difficult to find ....

Just pre ordered dual sim from UAE, and yes i contacted axiom and they said its dual sim model g935F
Price is way better than Europe too
Axiomtelecom dot com uae not ksa for selecting the region
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Nice catch kloodee;
Do you know what 4G bands the UAE model supports?

No idea but for me im on three network on the UK and based on a previous purchase 4G worked fine
Its intersting to know that in the UAE its a snapdragon processor with dual sim standby
For me i need two sims and sd, i might attempt doing the sd/sim hack to take full advantage of the phone
For shipping from UAE i paid around 35£ to ship 2 phones with super fast delivery after march 11
Good luck and i hope this helps !
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I will buy this phone, no need for extra storage, 32 for me is a plenty,
Must have 2 lines, how sure are you it will have dual phone capabilities? That's all I'm interested in knowing, and do you by any chance know the model number to look for?
Thanks
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vivelafrance said:
Frist, there's no "S7 edge dual sim" phone. It's just "S7 edge". And it's HYBRID dual sim, not dual sim. Which means you have to choose between a storage card and a second sim card. You can't have both.
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vivelafrance said:
you are wrong. All S7 are Hybrid dual sim. If you asked if the S7 was Dual Sim, then no it's not, it's HYBRID Dual Sim.
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vivelafrance said:
AGAIN, YOU ARE WRONG! It DOES! If you know how to use google and keyboard, then research it!
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vivelafrance said:
Look, a friend of mine is a big manager at Vodafone and he's had the phone in his hands (the same they're shipping out) and it is an hybrid one. However, I see what you mean.
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You are wrong. Your "big manager" friend is wrong. Not all S7 Edge's are hybrid dual sim. Only specific models.