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I would really love getting the dual SIM version of the Samsung Galaxy S 4 as it would allow me to carry one less phone with me. But in the end I'm not sure if the pros outweight the cons.
Pros:
- Able to use two SIMs in the same phone
- Exynos 5 Octa, which will see very limited availability in Europe
Cons:
- China Unicom specific version
- No international warranty outside of China
- UI may not be available in English?
- Will be stuck with the stock Chinese firmware as the ROMs for i9500 / i9505 will not work on this
Is anyone else considering buying an i9502 to be used outside of China?
liviuv said:
I would really love getting the dual SIM version of the Samsung Galaxy S 4 as it would allow me to carry one less phone with me. But in the end I'm not sure if the pros outweight the cons.
Pros:
- Able to use two SIMs in the same phone
- Exynos 5 Octa, which will see very limited availability in Europe
Cons:
- China Unicom specific version
- No international warranty outside of China
- UI may not be available in English?
- Will be stuck with the stock Chinese firmware as the ROMs for i9500 / i9505 will not work on this
Is anyone else considering buying an i9502 to be used outside of China?
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I would like to have i9502 and I have the same questions and worrying about the warranty outside of China. I'm gonna wait till it is available on eBay. I hope that some companies could give at least 12 months international warranty for this device.
I am thinking of buying one for use world wide. I assume no one will be developing a custom ROM for this version.
Is there a way to install the Play Store and Gapps?
As the S4 should be highly popular, we might see more developing for the exynos chipset. Once they come out with the aosp base for it, developing for the variants should be easier.
Since i9502 is China based, we should see a MIUI Rom for it soon
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I thought samsung released their official rom for this phone? Doesn't it therefore mean that we can root this without any bugs? I remember the Note 2 dual sim custom rom had bugs on the map and caller id.
Can someone verify that once using the official rom, play store and Google apps will be available?
http://www.hotfile.com/dl/204614115/9393a40/I9502ZNUAMDG_I9502CHUAMDG_CHU.zip.html
Looks like there is one out there
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I am thinking of buying one for use world wide. I assume no one will be developing a custom ROM for this version.
Is there a way to install the Play Store and Gapps?
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The only way to install Play Store and Google apps is to root the phone. Unfortunately, there's no available rooting method yet for Galaxy I9502. But I'm hopeful that it will be available in the future. Like the Galaxy Note 2 GT-N7102 Dual Sim variant, a working rooting procedure was eventually made available.
I have ordered my Galaxy I9502 and can't wait to get my hands on it.
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I have ordered my Galaxy I9502 and can't wait to get my hands on it.
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Where did you order it from?
liviuv said:
Where did you order it from?
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China. ..
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nniicckkss said:
China. ..
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I meant to ask from which website you've ordered it. Thanks in advance!
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Where did you order it from?
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I ordered from taobao.com thru an agent in my country. Just need to choose a trustworthy seller. Or you can order from etotalk.com but the price is a little higher and payment method is not safe.
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nniicckkss said:
China. ..
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Unfortunately that's the only place to get it from right now. But hey, it's legit and dual sim. I'm happy
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Unfortunately that's the only place to get it from right now. But hey, it's legit and dual sim. I'm happy
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So you're gonna live with the fact that you don't have Play Store? Or do you have a work around?
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So you're gonna live with the fact that you don't have Play Store? Or do you have a work around?
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No, I'm optimistic a rooting tool will be available once this phone is released.
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I ordered from taobao.com thru an agent in my country. Just need to choose a trustworthy seller. Or you can order from etotalk.com but the price is a little higher and payment method is not safe.
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Unfortunately that's the only place to get it from right now. But hey, it's legit and dual sim. I'm happy
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hey there. would u mind saying, where do u live?! are u sure that china version is gonna work in your country?
I live in europe and really curious if i can use it here...
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hey there. would u mind saying, where do u live?! are u sure that china version is gonna work in your country?
I live in europe and really curious if i can use it here...
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Based on offical specs, I'm very sure an unlocked SGS4 I9502 will work in my country and Europe too.
Here's why:
SGS4 I9502 Supported Network Frequency:
WCDMA 850/900/1,900/2100MHz
GSM 850/900/1,800/1900MHz
GSM Coverage:
GSM 900 / GSM 1800 MHz are used in most parts of the world: Europe, Asia, Australia, Middle East, Africa.
Reference: www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
3G Coverage:
In general, the various UMTS bands are deployed as follows:
Band I (W-CDMA 2100) in Europe, India, Africa, Israel (Cellcom, Orange, Pelephone[4]) Asia, Australia (metropolitan Optus and Vodafone), New Zealand (ITU Region 1, 2degrees Vodafone NZ), Thailand (TOT (Thailand)), and Brazil (part of ITU Region 2)
Band II (W-CDMA 1900) in North America and South America (ITU Region 2).
Band IV (W-CDMA 1700 or Advanced Wireless Services) in the United States (T-Mobile USA), Canada (WIND Mobile, Mobilicity, SaskTel, Vidéotron) and Chile (VTR Movil, Nextel Chile)
Band V (W-CDMA 850) in Australia (Telstra NextG, Vodafone), Hong Kong (SmarTone), Thailand (True move and DTAC), New Zealand (XT Mobile Network), Brazil, Canada, the USA, Guatemala, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Dominican Republic (Claro),Venezuela, other parts of South America, Israel (Pelephone,[4] Cellcom[5]), parts of Asia (ITU Region 2 and ITU Region 3), Poland (Sferia)
Band VIII (W-CDMA 900) in Europe, Asia, Australia (Optus and Vodafone regional/country 3G networks), New Zealand (2degrees, Vodafone NZ), Thailand (Advanced Info Service), Dominican Republic (Orange Dominicana), Venezuela (Digitel GSM), Poland (Play and Aero2 HSPA+ Internet only[6])
Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
I bought mine in China and used it with China Mobile and my US T-Mobile SIM cards installed at the same time. When I landed back on US soil, it automatically switched to use my T-Mobile SIM. I haven't had any problems so far.
Does that mean you have Google apps and play store?
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liviuv said:
I would really love getting the dual SIM version of the Samsung Galaxy S 4 as it would allow me to carry one less phone with me. But in the end I'm not sure if the pros outweight the cons.
Pros:
- Able to use two SIMs in the same phone
- Exynos 5 Octa, which will see very limited availability in Europe
Cons:
- China Unicom specific version
- No international warranty outside of China
- UI may not be available in English?
- Will be stuck with the stock Chinese firmware as the ROMs for i9500 / i9505 will not work on this
Is anyone else considering buying an i9502 to be used outside of China?
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The UI is available in Chinese, Korean and English on the i9502.
Mindbeats said:
I haven't had any problems so far.
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Can I ask if you have Play Store working?
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Can I ask if you have Play Store working?
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I'm working on that now. Stock there was go Gapps; you get the Chinese version of their app store 沃商店.
Last month I bougth one Galaxy S5 in San Francisco's BestBuy, I ask for the Unlocked version for Brazil and Ask for the seller this mobile work in Brazil ? The seller say: Yes.
When I arive in my country I tested my sim card and this SIM card doens't work.
I call for the Samsung in Brazil and the USA Samsung.
I Call for my carrier in Brazil(VIVO)
After I found my guide and discovered that it was a North Africa and Middle East Version.
The model is SM-G900H.
I don't know about the my mobile carrier.
I don't know what to do.
Thank you.
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Best Buy in San Francisco sold you a 900H phone? That is rather strange as there are no US carriers that use the 900H. I can only presume that they resold a used trade in phone that originated in some other country. You should look under the battery and confirm that you really have a 900H model. AFAIK, Brazil carriers use the 900M variant. Which means that if you really have a 900H it will probably have gaps in it's coverage with your carrier in Brazil.
Confirm that you really have a 900H model.
Ask your Carrier (Vivo) what frequency bands they use in their network
Go to the Samsung website and look up the specs for the 900H phone and see what bands the model supports.
If the phone is missing any Vivo bands, then you will be subject to more congestion and dropped calls than you would with the correct model. And if you are in a smaller town where less frequencies are in use, you may find no coverage at all.
As to the "pin lock", you didn't really describe what you mean.. but it's probably a SIM (carrier) or region lock, rather than lock screen pin. If so then you need to purchase an unlock code from a third party vendor on Ebay or other online site to unlock it for use with Vivo.
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This model is right, I checked in my phone. SM-900H. But the VIVO Can't help me. I don't know what I do can I buy one pin code on cellunlocker or another website ?
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You should first ask Vivo what frequency bands their system uses. If the 900H phone won't work well on the Vivo system, everything else is moot.
As to unlocking, you would have to get a SIM unlock code AKA IMEI unlock code (PIN) from Ebay or another online unlocking site. Not Vivo. Also consider if you want to make a claim against Best Buy or not? Do you want to try returning the phone because they sold you the wrong model or not?
Good luck.
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Vivo: GSM 850 MHz , Work ?
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A cursory Google search finds
You should confirm that information with Vivo. Then go to the Samsung web page and see if the 900H supports all of those Vivo frequencies or not.
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I found this on internet.
Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900H have Yes Card Slots,Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900H support all GSM Based network providers. Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900H mobile device support 2G Band Frequency at GSM 850,GSM 900,GSM 1800,GSM 1900 and Hight Speed 3G Network Band at HSDPA 850,HSDPA 900,HSDPA 1900,HSDPA 2100,Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900H also support LTE based 4G Networks Support at Frequency level LTE 2100,LTE 800,LTE 1800,LTE 2600,LTE 850,LTE 900,comes with network handling support with Network settings and work offline with flight Mode.
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VIVO (unverified)
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS 850/2100
LTE FDD B7
900H (unverified /unknown variant)
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS 850/1900/2100
LTE N/A
Did you actually talk to Vivo to confirm their information?
A full model number would clarify the latter i.e. what region your phone originates from may determine which bands are accessible.
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What should I ask for a VIVO ?
Leib said:
What should I ask for a VIVO ?
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Did you see any notice about 'region lock' on the box?
vndnguyen said:
Did you see any notice about 'region lock' on the box?
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I didn't see any notice in the box.
Can I buy one unlock code for my mobile ? Can you give me a reliable website ?
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I didn't see any notice in the box.
Can I buy one unlock code for my mobile ? Can you give me a reliable website ?
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Sorry I don't know.
However you can try to get it for free, ask the OP in this thread for the details.
Today I recive this e-mail
Gabriel,
It seems you may still not be receiving our responses.
Often, the unlocked phones require a 5 minute phone call be made with a North American SIM card before they're fully functional throughout the world.
Is there someone in San Francisco you can send the phone to? They could then bring it in to us and we could attempt to unlock it for you. If we cannot, I will refund the item.
Thanks,
Dustin
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I need the North American SIM card for active my phone.
Can I buy Unlock code anyway ?
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So, the thing is my parents live in Canada and they bought me a Galaxy s8 from the Samsung Store for me, and I live in Europe. My question is, can I use the phone here? The model number is SM-G950W and I just found out the global model is SM-G950F. Is there any reason for me to worry? From what I can see the 4G LTE cellular bands are different.
Cheers!
iirc if they unlock it in Canada you'll be fine.
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iirc if they unlock it in Canada you'll be fine.
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what do you mean unlock it in canada?
Activate it with Canadian SIM and make a call, that should activate it but don't take my word for it, not sure if it applies to your model.
On the european one I have (and I live in europe, so that's a good thing) it says 'for eu sim cards only' or something like that on the box. Would have to check the exact text this evening (not at home now). But from what I understand you can't simply use another regions S8 just like that.
Not sure how exactly it works though
I want to buy SM-G9750/DS (Dual SIM). This is Chinese Version (sourced from Hong Kong).
It has Snapdragon processor.
Is this version compatible AT&T and T-Mobile?
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I want to buy SM-G9750/DS (Dual SIM). This is Chinese Version (sourced from Hong Kong).
It has Snapdragon processor.
Is this version compatible AT&T and T-Mobile?
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It looks like its missing some LTE bands compared to the US version.
Usually don't have band 71 for TMobile... At least on Note 9.
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Usually don't have band 71 for TMobile... At least on Note 9.
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Can I somehow enable those bands?
Both phones look to be running same Qualcomm chipset.
lahcim2000 said:
Can I somehow enable those bands?
Both phones look to be running same Qualcomm chipset.
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Unfortunately No!
galaxys said:
Unfortunately No!
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What about CDMATool?
I see it can enable bands, but I do not see option for band 66 or 71 in a tool.
Thoughts?
I have a note 9 from the same source, perfect expect those carrier specific feartue such as volte, wifi calling . It does work with LTE, but almost half of speed of what I can get from a us version.
lahcim2000 said:
I want to buy SM-G9750/DS (Dual SIM). This is Chinese Version (sourced from Hong Kong).
It has Snapdragon processor.
Is this version compatible AT&T and T-Mobile?
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The S9 Plus, SM-G9650 (Hong Kong) is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile, I'd be surprised to learn an SM-G9750 isn't. It should work on all CDMA Networks. In some instances sellers on Ebay and Amazon will state that particular variant isn't compatible when in fact it is, just to cover their rear ends.
my sprint sim isnt working for my 9750 out the box... i figured they couldnt do anything, but i called anyways, the sprint rep said if it were "unlocked" it would work, maybe its a network or regional lock, i dont know. Im trying everything to get it "unlocked"... if thats even the problem. Currently waiting on a paid sim unlock service to get back with me, see if they can help.
Any one get a HK s9 or s10 to work on sprint?
If it's Exynos it's not going to work on Sprint or Verizon.
My Exynos S9+ and Note9 work fine with TMO.
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my sprint sim isnt working for my 9750 out the box... i figured they couldnt do anything, but i called anyways, the sprint rep said if it were "unlocked" it would work, maybe its a network or regional lock, i dont know. Im trying everything to get it "unlocked"... if thats even the problem. Currently waiting on a paid sim unlock service to get back with me, see if they can help.
Any one get a HK s9 or s10 to work on sprint?
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The s10 9750 is compatible for flashing HK roms, try flashing HK rom for your 9750 instead.
Please Help
oscarxvita said:
The s10 9750 is compatible for flashing HK roms, try flashing HK rom for your 9750 instead.
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how to u flash a rom on the SM-G9750... i googled but getting a lot of wrong forums
Region Locket
is this hong-kong version (G9750) region locket ? if yes how to unlock ?
lahcim2000 said:
I want to buy SM-G9750/DS (Dual SIM). This is Chinese Version (sourced from Hong Kong).
It has Snapdragon processor.
Is this version compatible AT&T and T-Mobile?
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hello everyone
I have question.... please tell me Is SM-G9750/DS with snapdragon (China/Hong Kong version with TGY csc) compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile.
I want to know, it will work Wificalling & Volte on T-mobile ?
someone has this one smartphone and uses it in the USA ?
Thank you
Hi! I just recieved my G9750 Snapdragon 855 S10 Plus, which turned out to be a chinese one. Is it any way to install any non-chinese/global ROM onto it? Like a USA ROM, which is also a Snapdragon one? I live in the UK, but I wanted one with the Snapdragon chipset. Thanks for any help.
Also in the same situation
Ditto - imported to UK.
danikollar said:
Hi! I just recieved my G9750 Snapdragon 855 S10 Plus, which turned out to be a chinese one. Is it any way to install any non-chinese/global ROM onto it? Like a USA ROM, which is also a Snapdragon one? I live in the UK, but I wanted one with the Snapdragon chipset. Thanks for any help.
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What do you mean by "which turned out to be a Chinese one"? Can't you set it to English? I have the G-9750 and everything is English.
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What do you mean by "which turned out to be a Chinese one"? Can't you set it to English? I have the G-9750 and everything is English.
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Of course it's include all languages, english also, but G9750 is for the Chinese market, so as the ROM is chinese. For example the Samsung Pay is Hong Kong specific one, with promotions from there. Etc....
So you wanted the G-9750 for the dual SIM functionality? I'm using the G-9750 in Canada, and Samsung Pay works. Did you try registering your CC?
All the S10's are dual SIM. I wanted the Snapdragon 855 version, cause it has better battery life compared to the Exynos version. I know that for sure, cause I had one at launch. And almost full support for the GCAM.
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All the S10's are dual SIM. I wanted the Snapdragon 855 version, cause it has better battery life compared to the Exynos version. I know that for sure, cause I had one at launch. And almost full support for the GCAM.
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Yes Snapdragon has better battery life for screen on runtime. There is no international ROM for Chinese variant. You have to use the Hong Kong firmware by changing language to English. Samsung Pay works as well, just different ads from Hong Kong when you use it.
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Yes Snapdragon has better battery life for screen on runtime. There is no international ROM for Chinese variant. You have to use the Hong Kong firmware by changing language to English. Samsung Pay works as well, just different ads from Hong Kong when you use it.
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And no not all S10's are dual sim.
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And no not all S10's are dual sim.
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Correct, can't believe Samsung didn't follow Apple's suit here
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Iain_S said:
And no not all S10's are dual sim.
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My UK 512GB S10+ Plus was!
danikollar said:
My UK 512GB S10+ Plus was!
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Yes UK has all dual SIM models. US and Canada does not
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Yeah to be honest after a day with the phone - the only thing that makes it feel Chinese/HK is Samsung Pay... and I'm not entirely sure i'll be using it over GPay.
Looks like we have an unlocked bootloader though so will personally its just a matter of time until I brick my phone
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What do you mean by "which turned out to be a Chinese one"? Can't you set it to English? I have the G-9750 and everything is English.
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Yeah to be honest after a day with the phone - the only thing that makes it feel Chinese/HK is Samsung Pay... and I'm not entirely sure i'll be using it over GPay.
Looks like we have an unlocked bootloader though so will personally its just a matter of time until I brick my phone
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How did you find out it has an unlocked bootloader? The Snapdragon ones should be with the locked bootloader.
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How did you find out it has an unlocked bootloader? The Snapdragon ones should be with the locked bootloader.
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The Chinese Smapdragon devices have an unlocked bootloader.
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So you wanted the G-9750 for the dual SIM functionality? I'm using the G-9750 in Canada, and Samsung Pay works. Did you try registering your CC?
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Hi, if I may ask that have you linked your Canadian cards to the G9750 and it works with Samsung Pay? I am planning to buy one but the Samsung Pay is very important to me...
adding to the same question , i have a HongKong variant (SM-G9750) with Unlocked bootloader (u get the option to unlock in developer mode) , i m using it in india with Jio & Vodafone (network providers).. when i was on roaming i saw my phone not picking up network that well compared to my friends on the same network diff phones. i guess thats coz their CSC is Indian and mine is Hong kong ( i can be wrong in this , correct if i am) in that case is there a way to flash Indian CSC or Multi CSC on my device.
hi everybody , i have s10 plus hong kong, it has a problem with battery, cell standby higher than 15% on mobile network 4g and 3g, is there any way to solve this problem ? while s10 5g cell standby only has 1%
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adding to the same question , i have a HongKong variant (SM-G9750) with Unlocked bootloader (u get the option to unlock in developer mode) , i m using it in india with Jio & Vodafone (network providers).. when i was on roaming i saw my phone not picking up network that well compared to my friends on the same network diff phones. i guess thats coz their CSC is Indian and mine is Hong kong ( i can be wrong in this , correct if i am) in that case is there a way to flash Indian CSC or Multi CSC on my device.
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I'm also waiting for this... as i need auto call recording feature too..
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Just adding to the discussion here....I'm living in mainland China, not Hong Kong, and am using a Chinese sim card in my S7 that i brought with me from North America. It works fine with the apps i had installed when I came over. This includes VPN services, the Google play store and all its goodies. I just purchased the S10+ G9750 here in mainland China (not in Hong Kong). I don't have it in my hand yet, but when I get it I expect it to be full of Chinese software and restricting type soft/bloatware that could potentially limit both my access to VPN and the Google play store (FWIW, i have heard many expats here who have bought local xiaomi's and huawei's and have tried to put a VPN on them on to have it magically disappear from their phones a few days/weeks afterwards...I assume there is some sort of setting or software that does this as VPN services are not "legal" in China. I have also heard of people having problems with certain western APKs when installing them on these same Chinese phones).
That said...I have a few questions....hopefully this is the correct place to ask them...
1) Is there a difference between a Hong Kong G9750 and a mainland China one?
2) Based on what I have read, my G9750 does have an unlockable bootloader....if so...
3) what am i able to do with an unlockable bootloader? It seems that people interchangeably use "rooting" and bootloading a new rom on to an international phone so i'm confused af. Flashing the firmware???
Ultimately, i would like to completely wash this Chinese phone of any potential BS Chinese software and install a western ROM (i.e., Canada or US) that will still make it work in China, but will still offer me all the Google play store and other western app functionality as I have currently with my s7.
Thoughts?