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Google Edition Xperia Z?

Looks like Sony is also making a stock android based phone and probably sold on google play store.
http://www.android.gs/sony-planning-xperia-z-google-edition-says-insider/
"The Sony Xperia Z Google Edition will most likely come pre-loaded with Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean, unless Google changes its mind and launches Android 4.3 Jelly Bean by the time the handset is officially announced."
- so 4.3 possibly around the corner for us...
"Since the infrared port has been disabled for both the Samsung Galaxy S4 and HTC One Google Edition, we aren’t expecting the Xperia Z Google Edition to sport this feature. Anyway, the infrared support can be restored with a simple mod.?
-They putting the ir blaster back on the google Z models?

Sweet.

Fingers crossed

if it was toward american buyers, it wont be really interesting
all android phone should be google edition IMO

monsieur_debile said:
if it was toward american buyers, it wont be really interesting
all android phone should be google edition IMO
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Then all phones will be featureless. All phones will be the same except for the processors etc. That will be pretty much meaningless .
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yay, that means we will get a port

joejoe23 said:
Then all phones will be featureless. All phones will be the same except for the processors etc. That will be pretty much meaningless .
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Like windows laptops?
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joejoe23 said:
Then all phones will be featureless. All phones will be the same except for the processors etc. That will be pretty much meaningless .
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Wich features you think you'll lost with Xperia Google Edition?

Mastrox said:
Wich features you think you'll lost with Xperia Google Edition?
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Don't get me wrong. I'm talking in general cos the previous post I quoted says ALL phones should be Google edition in his opinion.
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Can't wait! Hope we can flash the rom to ours...
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It`s coming in july
This will replace my old neo.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
It`s coming in july
This will replace my old neo.
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Great. If it does, it will replace my x10mini
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it this is true, i wonder if it'll be the C6602 or the long awaited C6606. How does sony plan on selling this if it is the c6602, the other GE phones will have LTE. Will there be any other hardware changes like snapdragon 600, IPS display.

Looks like Android Central have "confirmed" it through their sources
http://m.androidcentral.com/google-...-coming-soon?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter

joejoe23 said:
Then all phones will be featureless. All phones will be the same except for the processors etc. That will be pretty much meaningless .
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I partially agree with you.
But maybe we could have always the official option to have AOSP in our phones, not that all of them would come with it preinstalled.
Choice is always better

respider said:
I partially agree with you.
But maybe we could have always the official option to have AOSP in our phones, not that all of them would come with it preinstalled.
Choice is always better
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I agree. Instead of selling different editions, Sony should just add an option in its PC Companion or Update Service software to switch between "Sony Edition" and "Google Edition" firmwares.

Apollo89 said:
I agree. Instead of selling different editions, Sony should just add an option in its PC Companion or Update Service software to switch between "Sony Edition" and "Google Edition" firmwares.
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Actually, I think the difference is that the Google Edition has an unlocked bootloader. It seems from my experience on Verizon that carriers are not excited about selling devices with unlocked bootloaders, hence being sold by Google. I am definitely getting the Google Edition, but will at least try out the Sony software if it is available for the Google Edition. I am worried that it won't be available, because I have heard on the regular phones, when the bootloader is unlocked all the DRM keys go up in smoke...

Apollo89 said:
I agree. Instead of selling different editions, Sony should just add an option in its PC Companion or Update Service software to switch between "Sony Edition" and "Google Edition" firmwares.
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that means less profits and moneyssss

sbackus said:
... because I have heard on the regular phones, when the bootloader is unlocked all the DRM keys go up in smoke...
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Previously this was the issue, however with DevShaft creating the TA backup you can unlock the bootloader and still restore the DRM keys if you want to return to a locked bootloader. In turn keeping the warranty
Link if your interested in giving it a go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598&page=20

Made the decision today to switch back to my Nexus 4. I much prefer the stock Android experience and non of the ROMs currently available can compare to the N4 and how smooth it is. The XZ just needs some time to mature (and if this is legit, it will definitely contribute to that). Until then though, my XZ will be spending some quality time with the other devices in my drawer. I'll be missing the camera on it, but right now it's really the only thing I'll be missing. I can live with that.

[Q] Google's ROM? [UPDATE: June 30th]

Hey guys
So Google will be releasing their own version of the Galaxy S4 ("Clean" Version) pretty soon.
Will we be getting the chance to install this ROM over our current phones? (i9505 + i9500)
Or is it just for people who bought this specific phone?
Thank you,
Omga4000
UPDATE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43081117&postcount=321
Looks like we will be getting this clean ROM after all!! Yay!!

Most likely yes. Devs should be able to port it over. However it looks like many of the sensors won't work. Ie infrared
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I think the i9500 will be left out.
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Theshawty said:
I think the i9500 will be left out.
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yes

Why will he be left out?
Is the Galaxy S4 Google Edition based on rhe snapdragon SoC?
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Omga4000 said:
Why will he be left out?
Is the Galaxy S4 Google Edition based on rhe snapdragon SoC?
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Check this link -> Site
If somehow, CM10.1 arrived at i9500 variant then google AOSP may be come over 9500.

Psykologikal said:
Most likely yes. Devs should be able to port it over. However it looks like many of the sensors won't work. Ie infrared
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Why? Sensors like Infrared works because App for it already available on store because like WatchOn...
you can Download seperate

Omga4000 said:
Why will he be left out?
Is the Galaxy S4 Google Edition based on rhe snapdragon SoC?
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Because the Google edition will be the I9505G, i.e. using the Qualcomm SoC.
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Yes figured it's going to be snapdragon..
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Omga4000 said:
Yes figured it's going to be snapdragon..
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With regards to aosp roms, the i9500 is doomed, my friend. Doomed. Anyone compiling aosp for i9500 is wasting their time because exynos 5410 is even worse than 44xx.
So the joke's on you for not buying the qcomm version.

Theshawty said:
With regards to aosp roms, the i9500 is doomed, my friend. Doomed. Anyone compiling aosp for i9500 is wasting their time because exynos 5410 is even worse than 44xx.
So the joke's on you for not buying the qcomm version.
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I don't see the joke here..
In what way is it my fault I live in Europe
and Samsung decided to market the OCTA version here?
Anyway - yesterday Samsung began releasing the open source code
for the i9500, so future may be brighter than you think
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Omga4000 said:
I don't see the joke here..
In what way is it my fault I live in Europe
and Samsung decided to market the OCTA version here?
Anyway - yesterday Samsung began releasing the open source code
for the i9500, so future may be brighter than you think
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I live in Europe as well but luckily they chose to market the LTE variant here. You could have imported an i9505, though.
Look, what they release on arndale has nothing to do with what they have in their phones. If I'm wrong on that, I'd request an insight from @Entropy512 because he knows a lot about this stuff.

I would like a better insight as well.
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Omga4000 said:
Hey guys
So Google will be releasing their own version of the Galaxy S4 ("Clean" Version) pretty soon.
Will we be getting the chance to install this ROM over our current phones? (i9505 + i9500)
Or is it just for people who bought this specific phone?
Thank you,
Omga4000
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Remember, this is a stock Android UI - so far, nothing more (such as AOSP support) has been announced, and I suspect it's unlikely. So it actually will be of zero benefit for AOSP bringups like CM.
As far as porting it just like porting a TW firmware between Qcom devices? Maybe, I don't know how successful people have been in doing such a thing. (e.g. if they've got it as automated as I did with Hellraiser on the I777).
Since I9500 is Exynos, the Google Edition is of zero use for that device.
As I said long ago when the Google Edition was first announced:
If it's not AOSP supported, it basically means nothing
If it's AOSP supported and qcom, it's nice but not a huge benefit since CAF is already quite good
If it's AOSP supported and Exynos, that's a game changer and would be what would cause me to consider Samsung again. But we know for certain it's not Exynos, and it's highly unlikely it'll be AOSP supported - Samsung's underlying base software is too Samsunged (hacked up) in the non-GE GS4s for them to have AOSP support any time soon. The Google Edition is just covering up their crappy underlying software with a less sucky UI as far as I can tell. We'll know for sure when the device is released.

95mediatech said:
Why? Sensors like Infrared works because App for it already available on store because like WatchOn...
you can Download seperate
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They won't be able to include Samsung drivers into the device. If you use a non stock rom now watch on won't work because it doesn't know where to find the infrared.
I hope that Google does it right and gets the sensors to work but at this point it doesn't seem like they will. Maybe Samsung will release the drivers someday
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Psykologikal said:
Maybe Samsung will release the drivers someday
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Seriously starting to doubt it.
I'm actually thinking of selling my device and getting the snapdragon variant.
I heard there's going to be a version with the snapdragon 800 + LTE
so I might wait for that and replace my phone.
So sad
UPDATE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43081117&postcount=321
Looks like we will be getting this clean ROM after all!! Yay!!
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A good upgrade ?

Hey guys is it worth to upggrade to the GS4 from the HOX for 230€ ?
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I think so the galaxy s4 has a lot of great features and worth the money
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teonagode said:
Hey guys is it worth to upggrade to the GS4 from the HOX for 230€ ?
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but for you the HTC one might be better unless you were somehow dissapointed by HTC or Sense
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It's a good offer, it's pretty cheap (that's at least my opinion)

I upgraded from the HOX don't regret it for a second. First thing I noticed was battery life far far better. S4 is faster got a better screen louder. I personally prefer TW to sense. You wont regret the upgrade.
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Hey.. I upgraded from hox to gs4 and i think it was a great upgrade.. I do not regret it one second.. But i was kind of bored of htc sense for some reason so might be why haha i guess if you like htc sense (which i also do.. A great ui but like i said.. Was bored of it..) if you have the chance to test htc sense 5.. Do it and then you decide touchwiz is not very special either but i wanted all those fancy smart functions hehe
And just so i dont forget.. What gs4 are you thinking of?
GT-I9505 OR GT-I9500? I have I9505 snapdragon version which i think have better support on custom roms atleast what i have heard.. Migth be diffrent now i dont know
/ Wrix
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Go with the HTC ONE, much better than the S4 at all aspects.. I had an S4 before and I switch to the ONE. Totally worth the change!!Trust me or see reviews, almost all the experts choose the One over the S4..
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Might be true but i guess thats kind of individual, What you are searching for in a phone and what you want the phone to be specs vice they are pretty much the same and micro sd card and removable battery was great for me but like i said thats individual and only you know what your searching for in a phone
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dgcyears said:
It's a good offer, it's pretty cheap (that's at least my opinion)
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Yeah im not disapointed with HTC i just hate this tegra sh**,i would go for One but they are over 500€ and i dont have that cind of money :thumbdown: and how about ROM development on the GS4, AOKP and CM because i hate sense and touchwiz altogetger ?
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doesnt the s4 cost around the same?
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teonagode said:
Yeah im not disapointed with HTC i just hate this tegra sh**,i would go for One but they are over 500€ and i dont have that cind of money :thumbdown: and how about ROM development on the GS4, AOKP and CM because i hate sense and touchwiz altogetger ?
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I was used both in showroom, in my opinion, S4 was great with the price :good:, HTC One came down with high price.

teonagode said:
Yeah im not disapointed with HTC i just hate this tegra sh**,i would go for One but they are over 500€ and i dont have that cind of money :thumbdown: and how about ROM development on the GS4, AOKP and CM because i hate sense and touchwiz altogetger ?
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As far as I saw the GT-I9505 (Snapdragon version) has good developer support! It even has official CM (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Jfltexx_Info), I just won't be able to tell you about experience with it because after I flashed the 4.3 Leak I'm happy with it and didn't change , I can tell you that it runs amazingly anyway \m/. I'll just tell you one thing before! I think you should only buy if you're in urge! Because soon is November and that (probably) means new Nexus! Also your device is from the last year, so it's still a nice thing. If you really want to get a new phone now, S4 is good enough !

Samsung galaxy s4 for nexus 4?

Hello everyone,I been thinking of getting a brand new nexus 4 for my samsung galaxy s4 i9500, my question is what do you think about the nexus 4? Im mean is it worth it?ive never used any of nexus series before, always bought samsung products.
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Flash AOSP on ur S4 and feel the nexus 4. The S4 is the better phone except in build.
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mhoss48 said:
Flash AOSP on ur S4 and feel the nexus 4. The S4 is the better phone except in build.
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Unlike the i9505,no stable AOSP roms for the i9500 ..touch wiz is just pain..

I've got the I9505 and the Nexus 4. In terms of development the Nexus device will always be a step ahead due to being a stock android phone. Crazy amount of roms and kernels. I find the N4 faster and smoother in day to day operation as it optimises the software perfectly. The Galaxy bare in mind has better camera, expandable storage, bigger screen, 1080p not that big a difference, removable battery.
Down to you I'm happy with both devices. But use my Galaxy as a daily driver due to better camera and such.
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nikzDHD said:
I've got the I9505 and the Nexus 4. In terms of development the Nexus device will always be a step ahead due to being a stock android phone. Crazy amount of roms and kernels. I find the N4 faster and smoother in day to day operation as it optimises the software perfectly. The Galaxy bare in mind has better camera, expandable storage, bigger screen, 1080p not that big a difference, removable battery.
Down to you I'm happy with both devices. But use my Galaxy as a daily driver due to better camera and such.
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Sweet, i hear the i9505 is better than the i9500 in terms of the battery and no heating issues, not to mention how many custom roms and kernels available.I would have bought the i9505 if i had any idea about which version is better so now im left the i9500 , im not gonna buy a new s4 since im not planning on spending that much of money but think im going to buy me a nexus 4 and just use the 2 phones for different purposes, just a quick question, black or white nexus?

Black one for sure. It's a sexy device. It just works so well. The speed on custom roms like Rasbean is great. Plus you get the latest software updates to android. The roms are better than the GE of the roms as Google upload a version for developers to tweak so you get many more custom roms based on their sources or CM etc. If it had a better camera and that it'd be my main device Nexus 5 should be great.
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Black one for sure. It's a sexy device. It just works so well. The speed on custom roms like Rasbean is great. Plus you get the latest software updates to android. The roms are better than the GE of the roms as Google upload a version for developers to tweak so you get many more custom roms based on their sources or CM etc. If it had a better camera and that it'd be my main device Nexus 5 should be great.
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Great, black it is then.Thank you my friend for the info.

No problems dude hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
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im4eversmart said:
Great, black it is then.Thank you my friend for the info.
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you will never forget Nexus experience. it is a monster...:good:
i suggest to wait for Nexus 5 my friend....

Hey bud,well yea I been reading about the nexus phone and it seems a pretty good phone.I should try it.Hmmm nexus 5 you say I think its mentioned somewhere on the web, when's google going to release it?
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im4eversmart said:
Hey bud,well yea I been reading about the nexus phone and it seems a pretty good phone.I should try it.Hmmm nexus 5 you say I think its mentioned somewhere on the web, when's google going to release it?
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early October 2013. rumors said that it will be a Motorola phone.

samersh72 said:
early October 2013. rumors said that it will be a Motorola phone.
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Its a must be worth to wait then.

samersh72 said:
early October 2013. rumors said that it will be a Motorola phone.
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Thought it was going to build by LG again, based on the G2 but without the Snapdragon 800 to keep the price lower. Aah well, we`ll see .

gee2012 said:
Thought it was going to build by LG again, based on the G2 but without the Snapdragon 800 to keep the price lower. Aah well, we`ll see .
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Yea , its what i heard too, but oh well motorola is fine also.

I have both. I9505 and nexus 4. Believe me, the nexus 4 is much more enjoyable to use, tiny little things in nexus 4 like navbar, curved screen edge makes using quickcontrols in aosp browser really much better where as in s4 it's harder to trigger thr quickcontrols since the screen is not level with the bezel.
The feel of holding the nexus 4 is much better than s4 with its plastic back, felt sticky and lots of sweat on s4.
And the most awesome in nexus 4 is the vibration feel when you type, it's softer and deep, i really cant explain it and you have to feel it yourself.
Other than three i mention above, galaxy s4 wins hands down.
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adichandra said:
I have both. I9505 and nexus 4. Believe me, the nexus 4 is much more enjoyable to use, tiny little things in nexus 4 like navbar, curved screen edge makes using quickcontrols in aosp browser really much better where as in s4 it's harder to trigger thr quickcontrols since the screen is not level with the bezel.
The feel of holding the nexus 4 is much better than s4 with its plastic back, felt sticky and lots of sweat on s4.
And the most awesome in nexus 4 is the vibration feel when you type, it's softer and deep, i really cant explain it and you have to feel it yourself.
Other than three i mention above, galaxy s4 wins hands down.
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This is exactly right in my experience.
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[Q] Flashing Nexus 5 firmware on G2? (when N5 is released)

Hey guys,
Just a quick question. When the Nexus 4 was released, it was pretty much identical to the Optimus G. People figured out how to flash the Nexus 4 stock firmware onto the G, and inturn the G turned into a Nexus 4, and received all Nexus 4 updates. Do you guys think this will be possible with the Nexus 5 and G2? I've just bought a G2 because I am too impatient to wait for the Nexus 5, and I'm hoping I'll be able to do it

no, n5 has different hardware

cHarOn99 said:
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How so? Same CPU, same amount of ram, same res screen, pretty much everything is the same except the camera and the G2 has an IR blaster...

t.saddington said:
How so? Same CPU, same amount of ram, same res screen, pretty much everything is the same except the camera and the G2 has an IR blaster...
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The main board, kernel and other smaller parts such as sensors and memory will be different chips (most likely) so although the N5 software should be a, relatively, easy port to the G2 I would strongly recommend you don't try flashing your G2 with any software for the N5 unless it is specifically advised to do so.

You can't ever flash anything without modification or porting of some kind. Will it boot likely but not everything is likely top work either.
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You can't ever flash anything without modification or porting of some kind. Will it boot likely but not everything is likely top work either.
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Im not entirely sure it would even boot. Either way you have a very high chance of causing some kind of software brick which although is fixable can be a long and annoying process.

I still having figured out why people are drooling over boring aosp...it doesn't even out bench stock but maybe 4.4 will be light and fluffy as promised
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I still having figured out why people are drooling over boring aosp...it doesn't even out bench stock but maybe 4.4 will be light and fluffy as promised
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There's just something about AOSP that I love, but not entirely sure what it is. I've had every Nexus device except the Nexus One, and I've loved them all, and they always seem to be the devices I keep the longest

There's high resemblance between CM and the stock Nexus 4, with CM having the upper hand with features the stock roms are lacking (e.g. the latest added call blocking). So, we're in good hands don't worry.
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t.saddington said:
There's just something about AOSP that I love, but not entirely sure what it is. I've had every Nexus device except the Nexus One, and I've loved them all, and they always seem to be the devices I keep the longest
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You can have AOSP on the G2 without needing the nexus firmware. And for the Nexus 5 firmware to work on the G2... it needs pretty much every inch of hardware to be the same... not just the main parts. Look at the development forums... theres already AOSP based ROMs

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You can have AOSP on the G2 without needing the nexus firmware. And for the Nexus 5 firmware to work on the G2... it needs pretty much every inch of hardware to be the same... not just the main parts. Look at the development forums... theres already AOSP based ROMs
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Only for the American variants. Unfortunately us in Europe are stuck with very little choice in that department at the moment. And all because stupid American carriers require different hardware variants. :crying:

Oli1122 said:
Only for the American variants. Unfortunately us in Europe are stuck with very little choice in that department at the moment. And all because stupid American carriers require different hardware variants. :crying:
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Same thing with us d803 users. Makes me want to return the phone
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Plenty of AOSP Roms for the D802. D800 just got CM and D803 just got Carbon. It's just a snowball effect, well be getting even more as time goes on.
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custo said:
Plenty of AOSP Roms for the D802. D800 just got CM and D803 just got Carbon. It's just a snowball effect, well be getting even more as time goes on.
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I hope so, at the moment it seems all the American G2s are having a party while us here in Europe are a little high and dry.
I don't wish to be hypocritical, if i were intelligent enough I would develop my own ROMS but i find all that way to complex for me xD