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Ubunto ON myTOUCh 4g

Is it possible??? nexuS one and Htc EVO can do it ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN4c61ETCWg&feature=player_embedded#at=
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iM GONNA try it wish me luck

goodluck! post back with results asap

Yea good luck
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It is possible, and I have successfully done it. It is not very useful though. But we are not always interested in usefulness, now are we?
Anyway, google "Desire HD Linux" and I believe it is one of the first, if not the first, links. Similar method geared toward the Desire HD, which is almost identical to our device internally. It works.

Question, but isn't that just VNC?

GazaIan said:
Question, but isn't that just VNC?
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i'm pretty sure vnc just lets you view your computer at home, or view your screen when you're away.

Do you even know why you would want Ubuntu? Is it for the GUI, our for a better bash shell?
If you look around (I accidentally found this only a week ago) you can find Debian images for the android that they have had out since the G1. And they work on the MT4G.
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Which this essentially is in the video you even install vnc lol
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now the real shocker would be if we could put windows mobile on our mt4g or dual boot either 2 android roms or windows mobile and android.

Question, but isn't that just VNC?
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Yes, it uses VNC. It is used since there are no video drivers available for Linux on this platform, which is difficult due to the lack of code/documentation from Qualcomm. Ubuntu is actually running on the phone's hardware through a chroot shell, and VNC connects to the local host via a socket connection to provide the display. Just a way for the display to be displayed, if you will.

WP8?

I was intending to buy this device for JB, and because it's cool, but I was wondering, do you guys think there's any chance of installing WP8 into this device?
It would be nice.

not a chance whatsoever
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Not going to happen.
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Nope.

markiemice said:
I was intending to buy this device for JB, and because it's cool, but I was wondering, do you guys think there's any chance of installing WP8 into this device?
It would be nice.
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Lol didn't mean to thank you, twas a accident.
But anyways, Widows 8 for ARM uses a module called a Trusted Platform Module. Afaik, it is a hardware chip that basically locks the device to Widows 8. That is on top of the signed images and secure boot type of stuff.
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Nuh uh, nevarrr!!
Also, it would NOT be nice.
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Oh god why would you want to run such a horrid, closed, OS on such a beautiful device. Might as well ask for ios while you're at it
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Shano56 said:
Oh god why would you want to run such a horrid, closed, OS on such a beautiful device. Might as well ask for ios while you're at it
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we might be able to run windows 8 given that the surface also uses tegra 3, so there could be a possibilty there, just saying, but windows is a pretty good os not that bad like you think, actually not bad at all.

Shano56 said:
Oh god why would you want to run such a horrid, closed, OS on such a beautiful device. Might as well ask for ios while you're at it
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Can we put iOS on while we're at it
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Can we put iOS on while we're at it
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Sure while your at it port symbian.
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Interesting thing though. The new Microsoft surface tablets use the exact same processor ours do. But, no not gonna happen unless we reach an HTC HD2 level of compatibility
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we might be able to run windows 8 given that the surface also uses tegra 3, so there could be a possibilty there, just saying, but windows is a pretty good os not that bad like you think, actually not bad at all.
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Did nobody read what I wrote? This is not an issue of drivers/compatible hardware/supported hardware or anything like that.
This is an issue of Microsoft locking Windows 8 for ARM to certain tablets using secure boot implemented in the UEFI. They are also using TPMs to lock the tablets to Windows 8.
http://www.softwarefreedom.org/blog/2012/jan/12/microsoft-confirms-UEFI-fears-locks-down-ARM/
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You don't want a windows 8 device. I have the HTC Titan and I've tried to live with a really limited app selection but it just doesn't work. There isn't even an official Pandora app, and a lot of others are glitchy as hell. The os is pretty bad ass but with JB being as smooth as it is wp7 loses a lot of appeal. My NGex arrives tomorrow.
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Did nobody read what I wrote? This is not an issue of drivers/compatible hardware/supported hardware or anything like that.
This is an issue of Microsoft locking Windows 8 for ARM to certain tablets using secure boot implemented in the UEFI. They are also using TPMs to lock the tablets to Windows 8.
http://www.softwarefreedom.org/blog/2012/jan/12/microsoft-confirms-UEFI-fears-locks-down-ARM/
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Actually what your talking about locks windows to the surface tablet, not the other way around. You can easily emulate an insecure UEFI instance, after all that's how hackintoshes work
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So, in retrospect, it could be possible to port Windows 8 RT to android devices?

Clienterror said:
You don't want a windows 8 device. I have the HTC Titan and I've tried to live with a really limited app selection but it just doesn't work. There isn't even an official Pandora app, and a lot of others are glitchy as hell. The os is pretty bad ass but with JB being as smooth as it is wp7 loses a lot of appeal. My NGex arrives tomorrow.
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Actually, I do want a Windows 8 device. I'm using a WP7.5 HD2 now. It's not as bad as you say, and as I don't use Pandora, it's not an issue for me. Also, most of the apps I use are not glitchy at all. What are you using?
I'm also not crazy about having that many apps on my device, so I'm totally fine with it. WP7 is a wonderful OS, please don't put it down just because you prefer something else.

Nexus 4 port?

Anyone know if there is one?
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I don't know if there is one, but it would be nice if there was a port.
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there is only the x86 based sdk which you can download and start develop from sailfishos.org . good luck.

I am more of a electronic person than a software/programmer I know a bit but not enough. I can look into though.
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AW: Nexus 4 port?
There are no ports or images for any devices. There's only one image for the Nokia N950 that you can build yourself from meet source in theory. But afaik you can't get the Jolla UI. You could try to build mer with nemo mobile for a nexus device. That sounds doable to me.
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NEXUS 4 is great idea
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yeah. wish to see one port for Nexus 4 ...tks
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Jolla is a group consisting of mostly ex-Nokia employees. Considering that, if their culture is anything like Nokia, they are more worried about selling hardware. MeeGo/Maemo was open sourced out of their control. I will be interested to see if we ever see their proprietary UI open sourced. The good news is that as was pointed out, all Sailfish apps will be able to run on MeeGo/Maemo derivatives like Mer.

MAYBE only MAYBE i will port it for GT-i9000 and someone can port it for nexus ... Only MAYBE when i got no exams and so on .. Dont make any hopes it is only mabe
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Jolla acctually demostrated a Nexus 7 with Sailfish ported during the conference in China, doesn't function 100% well. But you can at least see the possiblity.

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Jolla acctually demostrated a Nexus 7 with Sailfish ported during the conference in China, doesn't function 100% well. But you can at least see the possiblity.
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They are hardware guys without hardware. I don't think they have ANY hardware partners yet. I have only seen it running on old Nokia hardware, which I guess says something for its speed.
They love showing off that ambiance thing, but you can do the same effect with CSS and JavaScript on a web page, so I question if what they are showing is not just a trick, or if it is REALLY the OS, because the SDK has NONE of the interface they keep showing off.
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They are hardware guys without hardware. I don't think they have ANY hardware partners yet. I have only seen it running on old Nokia hardware, which I guess says something for its speed.
They love showing off that ambiance thing, but you can do the same effect with CSS and JavaScript on a web page, so I question if what they are showing is not just a trick, or if it is REALLY the OS, because the SDK has NONE of the interface they keep showing off.
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So their own device doesn't count?
Wanted to post new youtube videos, but as I don't have 10 posts I can't. Open youtube and search for: Jolla Launches First Sailfish OS Smartphone - Hands-On Demo
You can preorder the device already: jolla.com

sound good :laugh:

http://youtu.be/ZpIfzFLmEM8

Double tap to unlock idea is worthless in my opinion. But I'd love to see that OS in Nexus devices.

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Double tap to unlock idea is worthless in my opinion. But I'd love to see that OS in Nexus devices.
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You can get double tap to unlock with the PGM app. Though that's for specific devices. Trust me, double tap to unlock is awesome!
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Load Google Chrome OS

I have had my TF300 for a few months and like a lot of people I am not as happy with it as I thought I would be. I got the keyboard dock thinking I would use this more for school than I actually do.
What I would like to do is load the actual Chrome OS on my tablet. I dont know if anyone has even tried this or if it is even possible. I dont know if the Chrome Book OS is open like the OS for Google tabs and phones. It is just thought...
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rbellis said:
I have had my TF300 for a few months and like a lot of people I am not as happy with it as I thought I would be. I got the keyboard dock thinking I would use this more for school than I actually do.
What I would like to do is load the actual Chrome OS on my tablet. I dont know if anyone has even tried this or if it is even possible. I dont know if the Chrome Book OS is open like the OS for Google tabs and phones. It is just thought...
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ChromeOS is built partially from Chromium, which is open source. There was another post about this a while back, and I don't think it went anywhere. Tegra 3 isn't well suited for running ChromeOS if I remember the discussion correctly.

running it on our tegra 3 is something I wasn't sure about. I think most of the chrome books have an atom processor. It would be nice to have.
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rbellis said:
running it on our tegra 3 is something I wasn't sure about. I think most of the chrome books have an atom processor. It would be nice to have.
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Ubuntu is close to working though... its a much more powerful standalone OS than chrome is. I was thinking of going that route soon myself.
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pyraxiate said:
Ubuntu is close to working though... its a much more powerful standalone OS than chrome is. I was thinking of going that route soon myself.
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How close to working are we talking about and where is it posted? The only information I can find in the development section are a few preview builds with very poor hardware support. I bought this tablet with the hopes that I could at least dualboot with ubuntu, so if it is working I would really like to know so I can try it out.
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Duckman5 said:
How close to working are we talking about and where is it posted? The only information I can find in the development section are a few preview builds with very poor hardware support. I bought this tablet with the hopes that I could at least dualboot with ubuntu, so if it is working I would really like to know so I can try it out.
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Well i run linux dual boot on my tf101, tf300t and tf700 lol and they all work great, the tf300t needs a bit more attention, but its definitely worth doing, sound is the issue on debian based distros on the tf300t, but on arch linux it works fine.
These three videos of mine demonstrate where we are with the tf300t
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRHXsG2G3c8 ubuntu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzV4K11YNMY ubuntu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdo5CMLg6oY xubuntu
didnt have time to do arch but its probley the further along in terms of funtionality.

JoinTheRealms said:
Well i run linux dual boot on my tf101, tf300t and tf700 lol and they all work great, the tf300t needs a bit more attention, but its definitely worth doing, sound is the issue on debian based distros on the tf300t, but on arch linux it works fine.
These three videos of mine demonstrate where we are with the tf300t
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRHXsG2G3c8 ubuntu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzV4K11YNMY ubuntu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdo5CMLg6oY xubuntu
didnt have time to do arch but its probley the further along in terms of funtionality.
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I'm impressed and I'm totally in. Where can I get a build to install on my TF300 or do I have to build it myself? I don't have the Android SDK installed on my laptop, so I would probably need a few hours while Gentoo compiles it, but as soon as it finishes I will happily get on it.
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Most chromebook uses exynos processor found in samsung phone, I dont see why it cant run in tegra
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Duckman5 said:
I'm impressed and I'm totally in. Where can I get a build to install on my TF300 or do I have to build it myself? I don't have the Android SDK installed on my laptop, so I would probably need a few hours while Gentoo compiles it, but as soon as it finishes I will happily get on it.
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Well have a look in the xubuntu thread in development, basiclly you need to be on android 4.1(only stock/ stock based rom work atm) and unlocked. Download the xubuntu kernel and rootfs. extract the xubuntu rootfs to /data/media/linux and make sure its called "rootfs.img" then flash the kernel to the staging partition with "dd if=*name of kernel* of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4" (after you reboot, the tablet will flash the kernel)
from there you shoud get an option to boot into android or linux (it boots linux by default)
if you prefer ubuntu you can download the the install script and rootfs from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2014759 follow the instructions in the thread, but before you reboot open up the built in terminal in twrp and flash the xubuntu kernel with the above command.
For Arch it takes a bit longer but you get better i.o performance and you can get sound working, follow the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38874272&postcount=429
if you need more help with this open a new thread, goodluck

JoinTheRealms said:
Well have a look in the xubuntu thread in development, basiclly you need to be on android 4.1(only stock/ stock based rom work atm) and unlocked. Download the xubuntu kernel and rootfs. extract the xubuntu rootfs to /data/media/linux and make sure its called "rootfs.img" then flash the kernel to the staging partition with "dd if=*name of kernel* of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4" (after you reboot, the tablet will flash the kernel)
from there you shoud get an option to boot into android or linux (it boots linux by default)
if you prefer ubuntu you can download the the install script and rootfs from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2014759 follow the instructions in the thread, but before you reboot open up the built in terminal in twrp and flash the xubuntu kernel with the above command.
For Arch it takes a bit longer but you get better i.o performance and you can get sound working, follow the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38874272&postcount=429
if you need more help with this open a new thread, goodluck
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Xubuntu looks faster. Likely because Unity is a resource hog >.> Reminds me why the first thing I do on ANY ubuntu rig i put together is remove it
Personally im waiting to see how much more work is done then jump aboard. I use my Tf300 at work mostly for iheart radio..... so .... Audio is a must Question though. Are you Dual-Booting Android and nix? I read up on how other devices were dualbooting by replacing recovery with the Ubuntu kernel. Is this similar or is the Android kernel replaced by a linux kernel that loops to the android system ( Via grub/lilo or something similar )? Just wondering
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pyraxiate said:
Xubuntu looks faster. Likely because Unity is a resource hog >.> Reminds me why the first thing I do on ANY ubuntu rig i put together is remove it
Personally im waiting to see how much more work is done then jump aboard. I use my Tf300 at work mostly for iheart radio..... so .... Audio is a must Question though. Are you Dual-Booting Android and nix? I read up on how other devices were dualbooting by replacing recovery with the Ubuntu kernel. Is this similar or is the Android kernel replaced by a linux kernel that loops to the android system ( Via grub/lilo or something similar )? Just wondering
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Yes im dualbooting but we still have our recovery. If we all had access to nvflash wec could modifiy the recovery partition and have linux boot from that, the adavantage of this is better i.o performance, the disadvantage oviously we would lose recovery(this is how the tf101 used to dualboot, but the recovery can be temperally flashed over the linux kernel). We are using a dual init system, the first init will load android processes(and boot android) and the second loop mounts the rootfs.img and boots it.
Yeah sound as far as ive tested on the debian-based linux isnt working, it looks like a kernel issue somewhere that freezes alsa restore, the same thing happens on archlinux but if you remove the restore daemon it works fine (you just have to enable some sound channels, hense what alsa restores jop was)

how far off are we from being able to have this as a day-to-day driver? Sound is very important as I use my tablet for netflix and youtube.
I have never used Linux or pretty much anything other than Windows and now Android. IS this close to an actual OS and not like a mobile Chrome or iOS? I dont know if that makes sense.
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rbellis said:
how far off are we from being able to have this as a day-to-day driver? Sound is very important as I use my tablet for netflix and youtube.
I have never used Linux or pretty much anything other than Windows and now Android. IS this close to an actual OS and not like a mobile Chrome or iOS? I dont know if that makes sense.
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Netflix doesn't work ATM for Linux. It uses silverlight which wouldn't be so bad, but the Linux implementation lacks DRM. You need to run Wine to get Netflix, but it doesn't support running x86 code on our arm processors. So no netflix on your Linux tablet regardless of sound. YouTube is a whole other can of worms. While the code for chromium and Firefox are capable of decoding h.264, it violates patent law to distribute compiled binaries. So incomplete support for all the videos. Sorry.
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Netflix doesn't work ATM for Linux. It uses silverlight which wouldn't be so bad, but the Linux implementation lacks DRM. You need to run Wine to get Netflix, but it doesn't support running x86 code on our arm processors. So no netflix on your Linux tablet regardless of sound. YouTube is a whole other can of worms. While the code for chromium and Firefox are capable of decoding h.264, it violates patent law to distribute compiled binaries. So incomplete support for all the videos. Sorry.
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Which is why you dual boot with android. Or just use android. Android can do all of those things. I actually don't see a huge advantage for using Linux. Sure there are other apps and capabilities but if you have the know how to put Linux on it you probably have a computer running Linux already. Why not use splashtop or teamviewer for remote desktop? Those work 100%. Somebody change my mind. So far I see only cons to using Linux on our tablet.
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Which is why you dual boot with android. Or just use android. Android can do all of those things. I actually don't see a huge advantage for using Linux. Sure there are other apps and capabilities but if you have the know how to put Linux on it you probably have a computer running Linux already. Why not use splashtop or teamviewer for remote desktop? Those work 100%. Somebody change my mind. So far I see only cons to using Linux on our tablet.
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Because it's there. Same reason people climb mountains.
There are practical reasons, though. It allows it to be much more of a general purpose computer. I like my Linux laptop, but the only reason I get it out anymore is to burn DVDs ( does android have DVD +R drivers?). I miss it, though. If I have Linux running on my tablet, it would allow me to run to my regular desktop applications. I could run a full office suite on my tablet I could browse the web with a full browser, I could do a lot more things than I currently can. It would make me a lot more productive. Combine that with the incredible battery life of a tablet and I think you have a winner.
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Hmmm. I don't know. I'm not really convinced. You can have full office apps for tablets, and you can do everything in the browsers on tablets that you can on PCs.
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Hmmm. I don't know. I'm not really convinced. You can have full office apps for tablets, and you can do everything in the browsers on tablets that you can on PCs.
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I have three of the major office suites for android installed on my tablet right now (Polaris, OfficeSuite 7,and Documents to Go) . They are NOT complete. There is a lot you cannot do, especially in the word processing software (rotate text, anyone?). What you can do is rather awkward. It's not quite the same.
As for browsers, I miss my chrome plug-ins. Firefox allows a subset of the plug-ins to work, but doesn't integrate well with the rest of Android.
I miss these things, but not enough to get out my laptop and power it on. My tablet is "good enough." If it ran a native Linux environment, however, I would not need to make these tradeoffs.
I do like your splashtop viewer idea, though. It's one I've toyed with. I just need to get around to installing Ubuntu on my home server. Not everyone has a PC that they can run 24/7, though.
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I was under the impression that Netflix moved to HTML5. Remember reading article upon article about how Linux users finally got Netflix. I've been running Linux for years, but up until recently, I havent been using my desktop because I had either an android phone or tablet; it was just more convenient than to run to my aging emachine and boot up slack or gentoo. Correct me if I'm wrong about the html5 thing though lol
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atermify said:
I was under the impression that Netflix moved to HTML5. Remember reading article upon article about how Linux users finally got Netflix. I've been running Linux for years, but up until recently, I havent been using my desktop because I had either an android phone or tablet; it was just more convenient than to run to my aging emachine and boot up slack or gentoo. Correct me if I'm wrong about the html5 thing though lol
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You're right on the html5 move for netflix but wrong on it working under linux. Still no support for linux because even though theyre moving/moved to html5, theres still other things it uses that arent available in linux browsers yet.
http://liliputing.com/2013/06/netfl...ows-8-1-still-nothing-official-for-linux.html

If you dont see the point in linux on the tf300t, try it out for an hour then reboot back into android and feel how restricted it feels. These devices have the capability of running a full desktop operating system so why not? the key thing here is multitasking (and the ability to move windows around the screen)
As for html5 it is really terrible on the tf300t, if you look on page 13 of the xubuntu development thread u'll find a working arm flash plugin taken from a chromebook, it work very well, youtube is even usable

Sailfish on BlackBerry 10/QNX devices

Probably it is not feasible due BlackBerry security, but otherwise it would be amazing to have an updated sailfish os where it will be soon an outdated QNX/bb10 os.
Being sailfish and QNX unix flavours I suppose the hardware and drivers should be quite compatible. And a huge amount of users and devices could be a target for sailfish.
Am I right?
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Yeah , I wonder that sailfish ui is something like BlackBerry 10 os .
Second, it is impossible to run sailfish on BlackBerry 10 devices.
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Everything is impossible until it became possible
I can only find two reason, too hard to hack, few technical people interested.
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Everything is impossible until it became possible
I can only find two reason, too hard to hack, few technical people interested.
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About hacking BlackBerry 10 are you kidding, there is no source code etc. For BlackBerry 10 device ,I am also using BlackBerry 10 , it is best for security, only disadvantage of this os is that lack of app development, so it run android app ,which is a cone of this os.
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The problem of relying on the android runtime is those apps, which are using google maps/services not seemless in bb10, requiring patching and this type of things
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