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Htc Desire Z Has Magnetic Wake?

hi, i was bored and i put my desire z in my friends blackberry messenger case with a magnetic latch. when i pulled out my desire z, it seemed to have turned on. After further inspection, i found out that if you slide a magnet behind the desire z slowly, it will wake the device bypassing the lockscreen. I just wanted to share this with everyone

Be careful with that magnet I have a feeling that could really mess up your phone if its strong.
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@least theres no hdd memory so that won't be a problem... but what will?

xsteven77x said:
Be careful with that magnet I have a feeling that could really mess up your phone if its strong.
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I don't think it would be that bad unless you had a really powerful one. The phone already has some sort of magnet or magnets in it. I'm a welder and have found steel filings bunched up all over the place on it.

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Be careful with that magnet I have a feeling that could really mess up your phone if its strong.
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well its a small magnet in a messenger case. i doubt that it would be strong enough to screw up my phone also i dont know if htc intentionally put a magnetic wake in their phones or not?

I have the same issue... and it wakes as the slider is opening.
Then the magnetic field probably interferes with the slider mechanism/sensor

hugo_prado said:
I have the same issue... and it wakes as the slider is opening.
Then the magnetic field probably interferes with the slider mechanism/sensor
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This is not an issue. Also when your keyboard is open, your phone turns on because it senses that the mechanism is open/ moved. this is supposed to happen. htc designed it like this so people could text easier without having to push the power button

evilcuber said:
This is not an issue. Also when your keyboard is open, your phone turns on because it senses that the mechanism is open/ moved. this is supposed to happen. htc designed it like this so people could text easier without having to push the power button
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I think you didn't undertand my statement
My issue is: when I put my Desire Z over the magnetic case, it thinks the keyboard is opening (same as you described).
Also bypass the lockscreen, as the keyboard opening.
I know that when I open the slider the screen goes landscape, it obivious.... the issue is when it happens when it is not suposed to.

it could also depend on that the capacitive touchscreen works like this: when u put your finger on the screen and have contact with the metal backside of the phone the magnetic field of the screen is interrupted and recognizes where your finger are, maybe the magnet from the case makes the screen go haywire because of the magnet?
Just a theory..

Exanimus said:
it could also depend on that the capacitive touchscreen works like this: when u put your finger on the screen and have contact with the metal backside of the phone the magnetic field of the screen is interrupted and recognizes where your finger are, maybe the magnet from the case makes the screen go haywire because of the magnet?
Just a theory..
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no i dont think so. when i slide the magnet over the back of the phone, im grabbing the sides of the phone, not the screen or back.

System setting for smart cover on/off?

I bought a smart cover off ebay, one reviewed here. I cant get that part to work. If there a system setting to enable it?
Thanks

I don't think so. Mine from Amazon just works.
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The Nexus 7's lid sensor is on the bottom left about a 1.5" half up.
Check your cover's lid for a magnet in the same spot. Either the magnet isn't in the right spot, too weak, or just isn't there.
You can check the N7's sensor by holding a magnet over it.

you could get a paperclip and test the magnet on the smart cover as well :silly:

most likely there's mags on your fridge or shower curtain, easy enough to check

Landara said:
most likely there's mags on your fridge or shower curtain, easy enough to check
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so that's how the light in my fridge knows to turn off...

rudeguy said:
so that's how the light in my fridge knows to turn off...
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Nahh, there's a switch. Mines towards the top
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Yea, it's just a crappy cover. If I pull it like 2 millimeters it works properly.
One thing I have to hand it to iDevices over android, third party accessory support. One iPhone 4S - one hundred android phones and tons of tablets.

rudeguy said:
so that's how the light in my fridge knows to turn off...
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Xperia Play Notification LED + Sanded Sides [little MOD](hardware)

I speak portuguese, but you dont need to understand everything.... the only thig that i says that is important is that the side with the triggers was just done and that after a day it would loses its white marks and became like the other
I have my play for a year now and it is in pretty bad state.... the construction quality is not the best...
and what more I care about is the power button because it is pretty much gone, I'm using apps to lock the screen and the home button to unlock...
found out that some one used a nail file to fix it, so I tried and it was better for the first 3 presses.... I noticed that the light was passing though the part I sanded down, so I did the same on the whole button.
I think It looks pretty cool and all the button lights up and catches more attention..
when its off, it is ice/transparent with the power icon in the middle...
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I'm the kind of guy that has no limits, if I something cool, I keep doing it till it finishes bad... but not this time!! I sanded down the side that has no triggers and it looks like a very dark wood with a lovely texture on it... have to fell it...
Tip. Try to do it all ways in the same direction, along the side so that you have these tiny lines right. Or use a very smooth(?) /for more delicate things sand paper and don't put any pressure on it...
Pics from the update here
https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B3UKRg_ISzYKcFJUTXBUN09WOG8/edit
Sorry because I have to accept... can't make it public somehow.... just ask permit ion and I'll give you as fast as I can...
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Wow that looks hardcore. I'm gonna try it cause I have the same issue too

That's so badass, I'm filing mine down right now even though my button works fine. It's looking awesome
I can't imagine why they covered up most of the LED to begin with...

I'm going to do that. I sanded down my other buttons so they're now black. Never thought to do the power button.
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How can filing down the surface of a button make any difference to its responsiveness? surely the problem lies beneath the button with the connector?
I agree with you on the build quality. My power button hasn't gone yet but its probably on its way out. It didn't work at all a couple of days ago until I kept pressing it and luckily went back to normal normal responsiveness after that, can't be a good sign though. That and the R trigger on my device has lost its springiness, it goes down with little to no effort now. Still raises back to the surface so I suppose I should count myself lucky.
Looks cool anyway and might make it so the LED light can actually be seen in normal circumstances.

So if I sand down my power button it will make it do that? GENIUS. I never thought of that. Time to go find a nail filer.

Sweet. Going to try this in a few

I just tried it out, and the power button felt a bit weird so I licked my finger and got it a little wet, but with the case on you don't even feel it. But my god, it looks 100x better. Thank you dude.

Totally awesome. Made my other buttons black b4. Didn't think about power either. Awesome now I can actually see my notification light
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Beautiful!
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LordBattleBeard said:
How can filing down the surface of a button make any difference to its responsiveness? surely the problem lies beneath the button with the connector?
I agree with you on the build quality. My power button hasn't gone yet but its probably on its way out. It didn't work at all a couple of days ago until I kept pressing it and luckily went back to normal normal responsiveness after that, can't be a good sign though. That and the R trigger on my device has lost its springiness, it goes down with little to no effort now. Still raises back to the surface so I suppose I should count myself lucky.
Looks cool anyway and might make it so the LED light can actually be seen in normal circumstances.
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The surface between the back of the button and the back cover...
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Glad you guys liked!
I'll sand the buttons because they re wearing off anyway... didn't think of that...
Have any one though about the sides of the device, make it all black? From like the first mouth the paint/metal effect has came out a little... I'll do that when I get home
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LordBattleBeard said:
How can filing down the surface of a button make any difference to its responsiveness? surely the problem lies beneath the button with the connector?
I agree with you on the build quality. My power button hasn't gone yet but its probably on its way out. It didn't work at all a couple of days ago until I kept pressing it and luckily went back to normal normal responsiveness after that, can't be a good sign though. That and the R trigger on my device has lost its springiness, it goes down with little to no effort now. Still raises back to the surface so I suppose I should count myself lucky.
Looks cool anyway and might make it so the LED light can actually be seen in normal circumstances.
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I think the R button loses its springiness because of the way the phone is held. At least when I hold it its usually being pressed.
To get back on topic, how is the surface of the power button when sanded?
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What do you mean sanded down? I dont understand English much. Will the sleep button work when i mod it?
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MilkyJoePD said:
I think the R button loses its springiness because of the way the phone is held. At least when I hold it its usually being pressed.
To get back on topic, how is the surface of the power button when sanded?
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Not to go off topic again but I had to replace the back cover underneath the battery. As the triggers started to get sticky and not move as they looked liked they were pressed all the way down. So bought a new backing and bang... works like like new. Now.... back to our regular scheduled topic on hand.
I did this last night... so much nicer to finally see the danger led as the whole button rather then what looks like a pin needle
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leetxperia said:
What do you mean sanded down? I dont understand English much. Will the sleep button work when i mod it?
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Use something like this
You can find this on nail cutter or swiss army multipurpose knife. Gently scrub it on your power button. You can use sand paper also which you can find it on any hardware store, but I don't prefer sand paper because the sand will come off and run into your device

360porcento said:
I have my play for a year now and it is in pretty bad state.... the construction quality is not the best...
and what more I care about is the power button because it is pretty much gone, I'm using apps to lock the screen and the home button to unlock...
found out that some one used a nail file to fix it, so I tried and it was better for the first 3 presses.... I noticed that the light was passing though the part I sanded down, so I did the same on the whole button.
I think It looks pretty cool and all the button lights up and catches more attention..
when its off, it is ice/transparent with the power icon in the middle...
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Is that a crack in your back plate by the power button? (White line in first pic)
Just wondering as I have a crack on mine in the exact same place
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Growling Clover said:
Is that a crack in your back plate by the power button? (White line in first pic)
Just wondering as I have a crack on mine in the exact same place
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I had the same crack as well
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Lol that does look cool!
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Growling Clover said:
Is that a crack in your back plate by the power button? (White line in first pic)
Just wondering as I have a crack on mine in the exact same place
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Lol... I haven't noticed it before 0.o yep, its a little crack.... I got I big one on the aperture where you put the your nail to take the back cover... do you have that one too?
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I'd like Active Display(breathing) more if it wasn't so sensitive...

It's definitely not a battery issue, but it bothers me whenever the slightest tap sets off the clock popup. I don't think it's a case issue since I use a light-weight one (Poetic slim case). I would like to think that the context-processor responds to the disruption in the magnetic field which is why it's so sensitive. I can't test this though.....Does anyone happen to have a flip cover for the Moto X?

I use an app called uListen so I can stream YouTube videos with my screen off. I've noticed that app makes the active display go nuts.
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It acts when the phone moves simulating you picking it up. When I'm on my recliner it activates every time I move in the recliner. It does what it is meant to do I like it for checking the time and not having to activate the phone.
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Turn the phone over so the screen is facing down. Problem solved.

I love it. I pick the phone up and just swipe to wake. Then with a Nova Launcher gesture (swipe up to toggle Quick Settings) and a custom Sleep tile in the bottom right thanks to GravityBox, I've probably cut my mashing on the power button by probably 95%. I barely have to touch it anymore.

I love the active display but it does annoy me when I'm driving. I stick it in the cup holder and every time the truck moves, the screen turns on and I can see it out of the corner of my eye. And I don't know if anyone else lives in PA, but trying to avoid the potholes and inevitably hitting one keeps the screen on almost the entire time...
I also found I now pick up my Nexus 7 expecting the screen to turn on automatically

mister2quick said:
I also found I now pick up my Nexus 7 expecting the screen to turn on automatically
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Hahaha, I've done the same with my Galaxy Nexus and even my wife's Razr Maxx.
PA here too... and the potholes have become unbearable.

I really like the sensitivity... I think its great that it will pop on virtually anytime I move the phone, but not to the point of wasting my battery. I swear there have been times where I could just wave my hand over the phone and it would flick the time and lock up, but maybe it was just in my head.
I hear ya all on the Nexus 7 deal, I do the same from time to time, just expect it to turn on. Would be something easy for Google to add moving forward though.

deathsled said:
Turn the phone over so the screen is facing down. Problem solved.
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Well that just defeats the purpose of the active display
But mine is very sensitive as well. Even when there is no movement I will see it go on . Doesn't really bother me. Only when I use another phone...I end up shaking the phone to get the active display to show
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kbluhm said:
Hahaha, I've done the same with my Galaxy Nexus and even my wife's Razr Maxx.
PA here too... and the potholes have become unbearable.
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Just got back from PA. Shredded my low pro tires
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mister2quick said:
I love the active display but it does annoy me when I'm driving. I stick it in the cup holder and every time the truck moves, the screen turns on and I can see it out of the corner of my eye. And I don't know if anyone else lives in PA, but trying to avoid the potholes and inevitably hitting one keeps the screen on almost the entire time...
I also found I now pick up my Nexus 7 expecting the screen to turn on automatically
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Do you Assist app for driving? I've noticed that after I'm driving for a couple minutes the phone must turn down the active notifications as it won't turn on with little bumps. Sometimes it won't even turn on when I pick it up.
But sitting in my house, it'll turn on every time I bump it.

Cover the proximity sensor and it'll assume it's face down or in your pocket.
The proximity sensor is on ALL the time, and it is used in conjunction with the accelerometer to turn on the screen. If you don't want it to turn on in certain situations, do the above.
I cover it with my microfiber screen wiping cloth sometimes when I want it face up but without AN.

Sony needs to fix double tap to wake...

So here's a little video of me checking the time while sitting on the couch. Very frustrating. Any tips or fixes available to make it better?
https://youtu.be/iukYtlqDww4

clouds5 said:
So here's a little video of me checking the time while sitting on the couch. Very frustrating. Any tips or fixes available to make it better?
https://youtu.be/iukYtlqDww4
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make it unprivate

DrEzkimo said:
make it unprivate
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Done :angel:

clouds5 said:
Done :angel:
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With what firmware do you have that issue? Maby factory reset can help

Whitefoxy said:
With what firmware do you have that issue? Maby factory reset can help
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Did a clean install when 5.1.1 came out... just upgraded to most recent fw but it's been like this since I upgraded to lollipop.

My Z3C never had this issue. DT2W works flawlessly but it's disabled on my phone because it was waking up too often while in my pocket

The thing is DT2W worked flawlessly on the first kitkat FW when this phone came out... After the upgrades you'll hv to move it like pick it up then it'll work properly. If you leave it on a flat surface for awhile and tap it without moving it then it'll be like in the OP's video.
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It's the same for me. Worked very good on 4.4, now only with movement before on 5.0, 5.1. I think they tried to make it less sensitive to waking the screen in the pocket or something. Though not the best solution.

romcio47 said:
My Z3C never had this issue. DT2W works flawlessly but it's disabled on my phone because it was waking up too often while in my pocket
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If it wakes up in your pocket, then make the screen face outwards when you put it in your pocket problem solved :'D That's what i do anyway.
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Sadman Khan said:
If it wakes up in your pocket, then make the screen face outwards when you put it in your pocket [emoji14] problem solved :'D That's what i do anyway.
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I'd rather not, I scratched my previous phone's screen really bad when doing this. I got out of my way for someone and ground with my hip against a stone wall.

Sadman Khan said:
If it wakes up in your pocket, then make the screen face outwards when you put it in your pocket problem solved :'D That's what i do anyway.
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GravityBox has this "Proximity wake-up" feature.
The phone will never wake-up when the proximity sensor is covered (even when you use the power button instead of double-tap)

Sometimes the double tap doesn't respond well at all.

doubletakeit said:
GravityBox has this "Proximity wake-up" feature.
The phone will never wake-up when the proximity sensor is covered (even when you use the power button instead of double-tap)
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Nice find. But isn't that going to be a big battery drain?

clouds5 said:
Nice find. But isn't that going to be a big battery drain?
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I didn't notice any battery drain using that feature.
It seems the sensor is not used all the time. Maybe it is used only when there's an attempt to wake up the phone.

Testing now

najodleglejszy said:
I'd rather not, I scratched my previous phone's screen really bad when doing this. I got out of my way for someone and ground with my hip against a stone wall.
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Well okay. Umm what :| Disclaimer: I am not to be held responsible for any kind of freak accident like this :'D
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najodleglejszy said:
I'd rather not, I scratched my previous phone's screen really bad when doing this. I got out of my way for someone and ground with my hip against a stone wall.
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Do your phone a favour and get a tempered glass screen protector http://allegro.pl/nillkin-9h-h-szklo-folia-lcd-xperia-z3-compact-i5660652914.html

adamk7 said:
Do your phone a favour and get a tempered glass screen protector http://allegro.pl/nillkin-9h-h-szklo-folia-lcd-xperia-z3-compact-i5660652914.html
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I already got one, along with CaseMate Barely There. don't wanna repeat that Mini Pro mistake.

lol so you have a case and a tempered glass screen protector and you are adjusting the way you put your phone in your pocket in order to avoid the possibility of grinding your hip into a wall whilst avoiding someone. wow. you are one cautious individual.
Just get gravity box. Once you have that tap to wake is perfect.

jarayn said:
lol so you have a case and a tempered glass screen protector and you are adjusting the way you put your phone in your pocket in order to avoid the possibility of grinding your hip into a wall whilst avoiding someone. wow. you are one cautious individual.
Just get gravity box. Once you have that tap to wake is perfect.
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yes I am cautious, this phone was quite expensive and I'm going to use it for as long as possible. and yes, I've already enabled the proximity wake in GB.